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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 93 03:13:03 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #230
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Linux-Activists Digest #230, Volume #6 Wed, 15 Sep 93 03:13:03 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Removing Linux (Zack Evans)
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Re: NEW Products for Linux users from JANA Publishing (Danny ter Haar)
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need help with login (Sang Kim)
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CC / GCC Problem (Dave Rollings)
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Re: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro VLB 2MB (Chuck Wheelus)
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Help: Linux Swap (Heon J. Jo)
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Networking Linux via AppleTalk? (James W Abendschan)
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Re: Help: Linux Swap (Byron A Jeff)
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Re: CC / GCC Problem (Rich Mulvey)
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Re: need help with login (Rich Mulvey)
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Re: Help: Linux Swap (Rich Mulvey)
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[Help] 2nd try - Bad start-of-data in partition 1. (Kevin Adams)
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Re: What are the various PC bassed Unix box OS? (Yi Qin (BCW PhD))
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Re: xlock under pl12 (Rolf Schirmacher)
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DOSEMU - new-user-type questions (LONG) (Chip Gregory)
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X (Peter P Chiu)
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weird fdisk on slackware bootdisk (Peter Berger)
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Re: need help with login (Harley Privitera)
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Using ms-dos compression and linux (travis jensen)
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Re: BBS package (Steve M. Robbins)
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Re: NEW Products for Linux users from JANA Publishing (Vince Skahan)
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From: zevans@nyx.cs.du.edu (Zack Evans)
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Subject: Re: Removing Linux
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 18:53:52 GMT
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In article <26v87d$nje@clarknet.clark.net>,
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Gary Anderson <ganderson@clark.net> wrote:
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>Brian, if you're trying to go back to dos, try the following:
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>1.) Boot up from a DOS system diskette.
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>2.) Do a 'format c: /MBR' to put a new master boot record in the boot sector.
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Wrong, actually. You mean _fdisk_ /mbr.
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Zack
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Zack Evans pyc081@cent1.lancs.ac.uk or zevans@nyx.cs.du.edu
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UNIX was not designed to stop its users from doing stupid things,
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as that would also stop them from doing clever things.
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From: danny@caution.cistron.nl.mugnet.org (Danny ter Haar)
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Subject: Re: NEW Products for Linux users from JANA Publishing
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 17:15:09
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In article <a3.28.2.0N92208E@jana.com> info@jana.com (Info) writes:
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>NEW Products And Services from JANA PUBLISHING.
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>
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>CD-ROM Publishing : Every other month we will take software from
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>our archive site and put that on a CD-ROM and mail it to you.
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>This CD-ROM will also contains comp.os.linux.* articles also. We
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>will not compress them so it can be read directly out of the
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>CD-ROM using software such as tin.
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>\
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YES YES YES, I always wanted to be on a CD-ROM, LOOK MUMMY !!
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Danny
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_______________________________________________________________________
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Danny ter Haar <dannyth@hacktic.nl> or <danny@cistron.nl.mugnet.org>
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PHILIPS DCC: combining the disadvantages of cd-rom's and tapes
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From: kims@panix.com (Sang Kim)
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Subject: need help with login
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Date: 14 Sep 1993 15:25:22 -0400
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I installed Linux SLS 1.03 last night and logged in as "root"
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and decided to change the /etc/passwd file and change "root" to "kims" and
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change my home directory as well. I also changed my shell to tcsh using chsh.
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I tried to login with "kims" but there is a problem. It can't find tcsh.
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and it won't let me log in.
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btw, I never set any password for "root" or "kims" and so when I tried to
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logon as kims it never asked me for a password. Is that supposed to happen?
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I have the disks so that I can reinstall Linux, but I thought I'd ask here
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first.
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--
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Sang Kim | "How come we play war and not peace?"
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kims@panix.com | "Too few role models."
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| -- Calvin & Hobbes (Bill Watterson)
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From: Dave Rollings <drollings@lincoln.gpsemi.com>
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Subject: CC / GCC Problem
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 15:36:08 GMT
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I have recently purchased SLS 1.02 from a local dealer, to learn Unix
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and produce C Programs.
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I am having problems getting GCC or CC to compile very simple C Programs.
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Should there be a linker or make program?
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Also should there be include files such as stdio.h and stdin.h as with
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usual C
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compilers? Again I have installed the GCC Package only to find quite a
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few
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usual .h files missing.
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Does anybody know where I am going wrong?
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Any replies either through this news group or E-Mail would be appreciated.
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Dave Rollings
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GEC Plessey Semiconductors
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Lincoln. United Kingdom.
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email: drollings@lincoln.gpsemi.com
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From: wheelusc@cse.fau.edu (Chuck Wheelus)
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Subject: Re: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro VLB 2MB
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 20:45:28 GMT
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C.A. Peskin (cap2624@ultb.isc.rit.edu) wrote:
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: Ok, so it looks like I have have decided to dump the Diamond Viper VLB.
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: Looks like the company is a pain to deal with, and does not promote the
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: freedom if information. How compatable is ATI's Graphics Ultra Pro VLB
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: w/2MB of ram with Linux?
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it runs very well....i am very happy with my ATI's Graphics Ultra Pro VLB
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i highly recommend it.
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long live linux!!!
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--
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Charles Wheelus
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wheelusc@cse.fau.edu
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From: hjj101@cac.psu.edu (Heon J. Jo)
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Subject: Help: Linux Swap
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Date: 14 Sep 1993 20:55:37 GMT
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well.. I'm pretty sure this is an FAQ but...
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I can't have my swap turned on when Linux boots up..
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I must type manually 'swapon /dev/hda3' to turn my swap on.
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is there a way to set my swap file turned on every time I boot Linux?
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thanks for your help...
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From: jwa@sunset.cse.nau.edu (James W Abendschan)
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Subject: Networking Linux via AppleTalk?
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 21:08:39 GMT
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Does anyone know if Linux supports the LocalTalk PC card? I'm going to
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be getting a 486 RSN and would like to net it to my Mac, without having
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to spend $400+ on thinnet cards/adapters for both of them.
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On a similar note, does anyone have an old Gatorbox they'd like to get
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rid of? :-)
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Responses via email are preferred.
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James
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$10C3: back to your quiet nightmares
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From: byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff)
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Subject: Re: Help: Linux Swap
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 23:09:12 GMT
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In article <275b49$b6s@genesis.ait.psu.edu>,
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Heon J. Jo <hjj101@cac.psu.edu> wrote:
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>well.. I'm pretty sure this is an FAQ but...
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>I can't have my swap turned on when Linux boots up..
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>I must type manually 'swapon /dev/hda3' to turn my swap on.
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>is there a way to set my swap file turned on every time I boot Linux?
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>thanks for your help...
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No problem. Two ways to do it.
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1) add this line to your /etc/fstab file
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/dev/hda3 swap swap defaults
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2) Put the swapon command in you /etc/rc.local file.
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Hope this helps,
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BAJ
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Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
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Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel!
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Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu
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From: rich@mulvey.com (Rich Mulvey)
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Subject: Re: CC / GCC Problem
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 19:22:45 EDT
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Dave Rollings <drollings@lincoln.gpsemi.com> writes:
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> I have recently purchased SLS 1.02 from a local dealer, to learn Unix
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> and produce C Programs.
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> I am having problems getting GCC or CC to compile very simple C Programs.
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> Should there be a linker or make program?
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Yes, you should at least have gotten a linker. Make is optional,
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although useful.
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> Also should there be include files such as stdio.h and stdin.h as with
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> usual C
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> compilers? Again I have installed the GCC Package only to find quite a
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> few
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> usual .h files missing.
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Yes, they should also be included. The standard place for them is in
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/usr/include.
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> Does anybody know where I am going wrong?
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I'd love to tell you, but you need to provide more details than just
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'I am having problems.' Tell us *specifically* what is happening, and
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you'll get answers.
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> Any replies either through this news group or E-Mail would be appreciated.
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Please direct all followup questions to comp.os.linux.help.
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- Rich
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--
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Rich Mulvey Amateur Radio: N2VDS 787 Elmwood Terrace
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rich@mulvey.com "Ignorance should be painful." Rochester, NY 14620
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From: rich@mulvey.com (Rich Mulvey)
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Subject: Re: need help with login
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 19:26:07 EDT
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kims@panix.com (Sang Kim) writes:
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> I installed Linux SLS 1.03 last night and logged in as "root"
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> and decided to change the /etc/passwd file and change "root" to "kims" and
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> change my home directory as well. I also changed my shell to tcsh using chsh
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> .
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> I tried to login with "kims" but there is a problem. It can't find tcsh.
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> and it won't let me log in.
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Did you specify the complete path to tcsh?
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> btw, I never set any password for "root" or "kims" and so when I tried to
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> logon as kims it never asked me for a password. Is that supposed to happen?
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Wait... you said in the first paragraph that you did. Which is it?
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I suspect that your problem is that your system is using shadow
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passwords, and you tried to modify /etc/passwd. Instead of editing the
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files directly, use the 'usermod' command. It's *much* easier and
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faster.
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- Rich
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Rich Mulvey Amateur Radio: N2VDS 787 Elmwood Terrace
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rich@mulvey.com "Ignorance should be painful." Rochester, NY 14620
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From: rich@mulvey.com (Rich Mulvey)
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Subject: Re: Help: Linux Swap
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 19:44:30 EDT
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hjj101@cac.psu.edu (Heon J. Jo) writes:
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> well.. I'm pretty sure this is an FAQ but...
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> I can't have my swap turned on when Linux boots up..
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> I must type manually 'swapon /dev/hda3' to turn my swap on.
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> is there a way to set my swap file turned on every time I boot Linux?
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> thanks for your help...
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>
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Insert the command into your rc.local file.
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- Rich
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--
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Rich Mulvey Amateur Radio: N2VDS 787 Elmwood Terrace
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rich@mulvey.com "Ignorance should be painful." Rochester, NY 14620
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From: af322@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin Adams)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: [Help] 2nd try - Bad start-of-data in partition 1.
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Date: 14 Sep 1993 23:54:28 GMT
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Reply-To: af322@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin Adams)
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I get the following warning when I do an fdisk verify.
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Warning: Bad start-of-data in partition 1
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Can anyone tell me how to fix it and also what causes it?
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Thanx MUCHLY!!!
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-K-
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ps. Ok, this is my second post.
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From: qinyi@cs.man.ac.uk (Yi Qin (BCW PhD))
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc,comp.os.386bsd.misc
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Subject: Re: What are the various PC bassed Unix box OS?
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Date: 14 Sep 93 10:19:41 GMT
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Are we missing anything here when talking about performance?
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Besides the factors of CPU speed, local bus and memory size,
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the performance is also very much dependent on the memory
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access patterns in the benchmark/application programs. Unless
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we use the same code to test different machines, the result
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would not hold in every sense. That's often the trick played
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by the dealers and manufacturers, I believe.
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So you guys may pass on the test programs to each other and
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run it on different machines. Then the result may tell you
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a bit more.
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Yi Qin
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Oxford
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UK
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From: rschirm@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Rolf Schirmacher )
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Subject: Re: xlock under pl12
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 00:24:41 GMT
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John Fauerbach (fauerbac@clyde.cs.unca.edu) wrote:
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: I upgrade to pl12 from Slackware and my xlock will not work right. It
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: keeps givien me an invaild password when I enter my password. Any ideas?
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: John Fauerbach
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Although I am still working with pl9, the problem sounds quite familiar:
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your xlock can't deal with the shadow-password-suite (I suppose your xdm
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doesn't work either). There should be new versions on the canonical servers
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and perhaps Slackware will be cleaned up ?
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Rolf Schirmacher
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From: s4ucwg@fnma.COM (Chip Gregory)
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Subject: DOSEMU - new-user-type questions (LONG)
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Reply-To: s4ucwg@fnma.COM
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 19:35:56 GMT
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I am running SLS 1.03 on a 386 33mh with a trident
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8900c. I have a 125 mb hardrive configured as c:,
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a 1.44 mb 3" as a:, and a 5" as b:. The hardrive is
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partitioned as 32 mb DOS as hda1, 8mb swap as hda2,
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and the rest as hda3 (ext2). I boot native DOS (5.0)
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from c:. I boot linux from a:. I am NOT using LILO.
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Notes/Questions:
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1.) I first configured DOSEMU to run from an "hdimage"
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file. I did not like having my DOS partition as drive D.
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I then configured it to run from a "diskimage" file.
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My disk image is drive A, I skipped my 3 inch, my 5 inch
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is drive B, my DOS partition is drive C (EMU), and my
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linux / is drive D (EMU).
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Any way to boot DOSEMU and keep a: as a:, b: as b:, etc.?
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2.) Quicken 6.0 fails when I start it up. I found that if
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I start it as "q > q.msg" it comes up ok. Quicken wants to
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remind me to do backups and this messages seems to cause
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problems for DOSEMU. The Quicken graphs are close - with
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the labels a little screwed up. I have NOT tried to work on
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graphics parameters. I specified "trident and 1024" in the
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config. I also got XMS to work and am loading everything high
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(DOS, doskey, and mouse). EMS gave me an error "Can not set
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line A20" or something like that.
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Recommendation of XMS versus EMS?
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Ideas on EMS error about line A20?
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3.) DOS edit doesn't work. It comes up. I can type stuff
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in the edit area, but when I pull down a menu, a get a DOSEMU
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debug message "ERROR: InsKeyboard could not put key in buffer".
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???
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4.) Telix came up, initialized my modem, and I dialed myself
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on the phone and properly registered a busy signal. After I
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exited Telix, it seemed my keyboard buffer was screwed up.
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Almost as if "local echo" stayed on - very strange.
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Any ideas?
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5.) Automap (a very detailed graphic depiction of the US with
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roads, geographical highlights, etc.) worked well. It was very
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slow, but everything seemed ok, including the mouse, (it must have
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it's own mouse driver).
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6.) I do not understand the mouse or the ports parameters. I
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know the doc says that the mouse doesn't work. I tried the MS
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mouse driver, and it could not find the mouse. I tried the Artec
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driver, and it loaded, but I do not think it actually loaded
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properly. I ran the Artec test program and screams came out of
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the speaker but no mouse activity.
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???
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Thanks in advance,
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- Chip
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From: ppc2@cec2.wustl.edu (Peter P Chiu)
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Subject: X
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 02:12:09 GMT
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Hi,
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I am running SLS 1.03 with X, Diamond Speedstar Pro, NEC 3FGx monitor.
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I can run X at 640x480 and 800x600 without modifying Xconfig but i get
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problems when trying to run X at 1024x768.
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can anyone please help me?
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please send mail to ppc2@cec2.wustl.edu directly.
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thanks
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--
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.&______~*@*~______&. m Peter Chiu
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"w/%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%\w" mmm*** Washington University, St. Louis
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`Y""Y""Y"""""Y""Y""Y' mm***** ppc2@cec2.wustl.edu
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p-p_|__|__|_____|__|__|_q-q mm**Y** 275 Union Blvd, #711, St. Louis,
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_-[EEEEM==M==MM===MM==M==MEEEE]-_.|..|.... Missouri 63108 (314) 367-3599
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From: pit@gccs.imp.com (Peter Berger)
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Subject: weird fdisk on slackware bootdisk
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 11:03:06 +0200
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bf703@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Patrick J. Volkerding) wrote:
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> This problem has been fixed. Thanks for the bug report
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> (and 'scuze the nasty bug :^)
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So. Well. Another think which is a little weird on the bootdisk.gz (9.9.93).
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The fdisk seems to be a somehow broken version.
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Description of "problem":
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1. Setting up the first primary partition with first cylinder 1 gives
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following output when looking at the table:
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Begin Start End
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/dev/hdb 1 1 xxxxx Linux native
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phys=(0,0,2) should be (0,1,1)
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What's about that? Never got this before (SLS-bootdisks).
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2. If there already a first primary partition set up, and one starts to set up
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a second one this fdisk doesn't recognizes that there's already some cylinders
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in use.
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It still gives [1-xxxx] as cylinders to choose from... No problem for me but I
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can be one for beginners...
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What I'm interested in now, is what fdisk is this? (I mean from
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what package? So I can avoid ever trying this version...).
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bye,
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Peter
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E-Mail: pit@gccs.fido.imp.com
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From: harley@shr.dec.com (Harley Privitera)
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Subject: Re: need help with login
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Date: 15 Sep 1993 04:21:03 GMT
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Reply-To: harley@shr.dec.com (Harley Privitera)
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>>>>> On 14 Sep 1993 15:25:22 -0400, kims@panix.com (Sang Kim) said:
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Sang> I installed Linux SLS 1.03 last night and logged in as "root"
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Sang> and decided to change the /etc/passwd file and change "root" to
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Sang> "kims" and change my home directory as well. I also changed my
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Sang> shell to tcsh using chsh. I tried to login with "kims" but
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Sang> there is a problem. It can't find tcsh. and it won't let me
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Sang> log in. btw, I never set any password for "root" or "kims" and
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Sang> so when I tried to logon as kims it never asked me for a
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Sang> password. Is that supposed to happen? I have the disks so that
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Sang> I can reinstall Linux, but I thought I'd ask here first.
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Did you replace the root account with the kims account? I'd imagine
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that setuid programs will stop working if the root account were to go
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away or have it's uid set <> 0, and this will cause problems (for
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example, login is setuid, and it doesn't work on your system anymore).
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/harley
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--
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Harley Privitera Internet: harley@shr.dec.com
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Digital Equipment Corp. UUCP: ...!decwrl!shr.dec.com!harley
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333 South St Voice: (508) 841-2087
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Shrewsbury, MA 01545-4112 #include std.disclaimer
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"Bureaucracy is the process of turning energy into solid waste" - Dave Cutler
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From: jensen%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (travis jensen)
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Subject: Using ms-dos compression and linux
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Date: 14 Sep 93 23:34:22 MDT
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I have a question regarding compressing my dos partition
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and using linux. Can it be done? Of course, I realize
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that I would lose access to the dos files from linux, but
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other than that, would it work?
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Thanks in advance.
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Travis
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--
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Travis A. Jensen
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jensen@peruvian.cs.utah.edu (preferred)
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jensen@cadehp0.eng.utah.edu (next best)
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"My elelator! Not your elelator, my elelator!!"--Baby Plucky Duck
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From: steve@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG (Steve M. Robbins)
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Subject: Re: BBS package
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 04:02:39 GMT
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In article <CD2HD7.7F8@ukelele.gcr.com> spj@ukelele.gcr.com (Guru Aleph_Null) writes:
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[ I agree with your approach to a BBS, btw, and am working on the same
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thing, as are a few other posters here it seems ]
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>This is a problem, I haven't figured out an easy way for the BBS to
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>create new accounts on the fly. I guess it may have to do something
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>like check for a specific login name or something. That's something to
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>look into, in the future.
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I've got a perl script that does this -- creates accounts for people after
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they enter a username and password. It's a bit rough, but uses a perl
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library I wrote for dealing with /etc/{passwd,shadow,group} and another
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for locking files to make sure two people don't try to update them at the
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same time.
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The libraries could be useful in their own right: I'm using the 'passwd.pl'
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library for other things like a 'passwd/chsh/chfn' program to change one's
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password, shell or full name (gecos). It works quite well; the library
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detects whether you use shadow passwords or not and does the right thing.
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My lockfile library is also in use by other things, notably an offline mail
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and news packer (does QWK and a 'raw' format right now, SOUP is coming up).
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Any of this stuff is free for those who want it -- just write me.
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-- steve z
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Steve Robbins -- steve@nyongwa.cam.org
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From: vince@victrola.wa.com (Vince Skahan)
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Subject: Re: NEW Products for Linux users from JANA Publishing
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Date: 14 Sep 1993 18:29:23 -0700
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info@jana.com (Info) writes:
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>CD-ROM Publishing : Every other month we will take software from
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>our archive site and put that on a CD-ROM and mail it to you.
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>This CD-ROM will also contains comp.os.linux.* articles also. We
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>will not compress them so it can be read directly out of the
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>CD-ROM using software such as tin.
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>NOV-DEC : This will be the disk from our archive site. This will
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>include Slackware, SLS and any other linux software that out
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>there. Also you can install Linux directly from this CD-ROM.
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please do not include the garbage noise from c.o.l.* on the same
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CD that has all the fine software you'll be mirroring from the
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Linux archive sites. If you want to make a 100% noise CD of
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c.o.l. postings, feel free to make a separate CD for it.
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You'll have my order in a heartbeat after the Nov/Dec CD is available
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unless it's all full with USENET postings. I'd be real interested
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in getting (yes, paying for) a CD mirror of the archives however.
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But not if the USENET noise is on the linux archive CD...
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--
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---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.wa.com -------------
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"I want to be like Barbie - that B____ has everything"
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- Tee-shirt seen in Philadelphia
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