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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 93 19:13:07 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #252
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Linux-Activists Digest #252, Volume #6 Wed, 22 Sep 93 19:13:07 EDT
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Contents:
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X and Slackware 1.0.3? (Shannon Hendrix)
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Re: How does Linux compare to SUN IPC? (William_F._Mitchell)
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Anyone Installed Metro-X Motif on SLS 1.03 -> Install sucks!! (Bradly William Wright)
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Distribution for $30/CDROM (Jethro Antoine)
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Re: running X appl. by modem ? (Scott D. Heavner)
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Re: How does Linux compare to SUN IPC? (Steve Norton)
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Re: Future Domain SCSI (George A Flett)
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SLS patch 6 to 12? (Bryan Zarnett - SPEC/F93)
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recompile kernel? (mitchell@sosc1.sosc.osshe.edu)
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Smail in 99pl9 (Volker Grimm)
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Re: NE-2000 Ethernet cards (Wolfgang Utz)
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Re: X and Slackware 1.0.3? (Aron Bonar)
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[Rev.] startx won't start x.. (James F Hall)
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Re: Writing device drivers (Eberhard Moenkeberg)
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More SLS 1.03 problems. Kernel make breaks. (Skip Egdorf)
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Re: More SLS 1.03 problems. Kernel make breaks. (Skip Egdorf)
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From: shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu (Shannon Hendrix)
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Subject: X and Slackware 1.0.3?
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Date: 22 Sep 1993 14:45:26 -0400
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Reply-To: shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu (Shannon Hendrix)
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So far everyone with problems with XFree 1.3 has had
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a Tseng chip, either ET4000/ET3000 and pl12.
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That is news to me. I am running p12 with Xfree 1.3 on a Tseng Labs ET4000
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and zero problems (except my monitor is $500 short of being ideal... :-).
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I know several others with the same setup, no problems. Only people I
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know who had problems were with Trident, ATI, and some kind of Paradise
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card.
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Is there anyone who has it working reliably with these
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video chips??
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Moi!
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csh / shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu / Christopher Newport University
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From: mitchell@cam.nist.gov (William_F._Mitchell)
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Subject: Re: How does Linux compare to SUN IPC?
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Date: 22 Sep 93 18:37:12 GMT
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Reply-To: mitchell@cam.nist.gov
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In article <1993Sep22.053134.1930@cdf.toronto.edu>, a228dhal@cdf.toronto.edu (Dhaliwal Bikram Singh) writes:
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|> It has seemed to me that my Linux system at home (X and GCC running in
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|> a 15mb partition, on a 386-40, with room to spare) is faster than the
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|> SUN IPC workstations I use at school. I can only offer subjective
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|> speculation though, ie. time for a xterm to open, etc...
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|>
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|> I was wondering, if anyone has done benchmarks between the two for
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|> various processors. I am not saying that Linux is better, it still
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|> has a ways to go before it can match the all around appeal of the SUN.
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|>
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About 6 months ago I ran the LINPACK benchmark on my 486DX50 Linux box
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at home and Sun IPC at work. Don't hold me to these numbers, but as I
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recall the 486 was about twice as fast as the Sun when f2c and cc were
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used to compile it on the Sun, and the Sun was about twice as fast when
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f77 was used to compile it on the Sun (there is no real f77 on Linux to
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which to compare, of course).
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Also, in the last week I found that compress/uncompress of a large file
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took about 4 seconds on my Linux machine (after the first instance, which
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obviously had to copy the file from disk to memory and took 18 seconds)
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while it took 8 seconds on a Sparc 10 at work. This may be due entirely
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to the fact the the Linux machine is a one user machine, and the Sparc
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has a lot more going on -- plus the file server is in the next building.
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All these times are measure with wristwatch accuracy, by the way.
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--
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-- Bill
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William F. Mitchell | mitchell@cam.nist.gov
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National Institute of Standards and Technology | na.mitchell@na-net.ornl.gov
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If anything looks like an opinion, NIST does not necessarily agree with it.
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If anything looks like an official NIST or government statement, it's not.
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From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright)
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Subject: Anyone Installed Metro-X Motif on SLS 1.03 -> Install sucks!!
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 19:11:34 GMT
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Has anyone been able to get Metro-X Motif to work with
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SLS 1.03? Linux Systems Laboratory claims that it will work
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with SLS 1.03. When trying to run mwm, I
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get an error message saying that the system can't exec:
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libXm.so.1 improper format.
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Has anyone been able to make it work?
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Brad Wright
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| Software Engineer (Massivus Nerdus) |
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| Premisys Communications (The Access Company) |
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| 1032 Elwell Court, Palo Alto California 94303 |
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| wwright@premisys.com, wwright@shell.portal.com |
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==================================================
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From: jantoine@mindvox.phantom.com (Jethro Antoine)
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Subject: Distribution for $30/CDROM
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 20:05:54 GMT
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Someone was offering LINUX & BSD on a CDROM for $30.00 does anyone
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have the info. If so please contact me.
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By mail please.
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THanks .. in advance
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*****************************************
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*jantoine@phantom.com *
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*"Scratch the earth *
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* Dig the burial ground..." *
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*****************************************
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From: sdh@fishmonger.nouucp (Scott D. Heavner)
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Subject: Re: running X appl. by modem ?
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 19:42:55 GMT
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Reply-To: sdh@po.cwru.edu
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Gerrit Nieuwenhuizen (nieuwhzn@dxgsia.cern.ch) wrote:
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> predard%sunset.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Pablo Redard) writes:
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> >Hi everyone,
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> >I'm wondering if I can log into my account at the university
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> >from home (through modem) and run an X application?
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> >I have linux and I'm running openwin.
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> >thanks.
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> I have tried it with a 2400 baud modem and term on my
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> local linux box and a decstation host. It works but
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> the speed is incredibly low. A xterm works barely and
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> pictures you should forget completely.
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> With a direct terminal line (9600 baud) at work this
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> works reasonably well, no speed demon either.
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> We should all wait until faster networks and telephone
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> lines get available before trying this again.
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I'd like to say that I've been almost happy with it
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at 38400 baud. I suuceeded in running the Andrew Demo over a
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term line in less that the hour alloted for it, so it's not
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that bad. I've had to wait longer for X updates on a Sun3 and
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a heavily loaded LAN. Also, I've been able to run crossfire
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(an Ultima like game over a direct serial connection 9600 baud) and
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it was playable.
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Scott
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From: steve@interaccess.com (Steve Norton)
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Subject: Re: How does Linux compare to SUN IPC?
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 19:41:29 GMT
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a228dhal@cdf.toronto.edu (Dhaliwal Bikram Singh) writes:
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>It has seemed to me that my Linux system at home (X and GCC running in
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>a 15mb partition, on a 386-40, with room to spare) is faster than the
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>SUN IPC workstations I use at school. I can only offer subjective
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>speculation though, ie. time for a xterm to open, etc...
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Well, here at the office, we've had 4 machines: One 386-40, 8 MB of
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RAM, one 486-66, 16 MB of RAM, one Sparc-10 with 64 MB of RAM and
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one Sparc-2 with 32 MB of RAM.
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The 386-40 ($1000) will process Usenet news about 2x faster than the
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Sparc-10 ($20,000). Of course, this is entirely due to the super fast
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Linux I/O. Processing news is all disk access, and the IDE drives blow
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away the sun SCSI-2 drives. Unfortunately, the Sparc-10 is faster for just
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about everything else.
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The 486-66 ($3000) runs 10-25% faster than the Sparc-2 ($7000) for CPU
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intensive activities (compiling, crunching numbers, Xlife, etc.) For I/O
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things (xli on Xwindows) it completely blows the Sparc-2 away.
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Now, I'm kind of biased. I personally believe Sparcs are junk, and that
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a 40Mhz motherboard with a 386 is just as good as a 40Mhz Sparc motherboard.
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--
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Steve Norton 708-671-0111 (voice) 708-671-0237 (data,login guest)
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InterAccess Co. steve@home.interaccess.com
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Chicagoland's best public access Internet provider
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.take a left off ANS CNSS28.T3 onto ENSS169.T1 and you're home.
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From: George A Flett <alec+@CMU.EDU>
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Subject: Re: Future Domain SCSI
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 16:10:45 -0400
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I just wanted to post to say that I TOO have a Future Domain 1680, and
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Linux cannot find it. It has bios version 3.2, and it has a Maxtor 1240S
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hard drive attached.
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Alec
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-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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"There's only one way of life, and that's your own.." - The Levellers
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"Assume no one can know themselves" - From a math proof (!)
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-=The Infamous Laundry Man=-
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-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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From: bzarnett@acs.ryerson.ca (Bryan Zarnett - SPEC/F93)
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Subject: SLS patch 6 to 12?
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Date: 22 Sep 1993 20:32:08 GMT
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SlS 1.03 just blew-up so Im putting back on 99.6...can I, with patience
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just keeping patching and getting the new gcc and stuff to bring myself up to
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SLS 1.02???
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I have the first 4 a disks for 1.02 here...can I use the b,c,d,s,t,x disks
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on tsx-11 with the 1.02 disks I have..will there be problems???
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- Bryan
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From: mitchell@sosc1.sosc.osshe.edu
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Subject: recompile kernel?
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Date: 22 Sep 1993 16:55:31 -0400
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Reply-To: mitchell@sosc1.sosc.osshe.edu
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I'm having problems with a com port and I suspect that the autoprobing
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for my 3c503 card may be resulting in an irq conflict. I get a
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spurious interrupt message after reboot and I can't setserial or stty -a
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cua1 or ttyS1. So I fixed the base address and irq for the 3c503 card
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in the net/inet/CONFIG file to 0x250 and irq5.
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My question is: Do I have to recompile the entire kernel to implement
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this change?
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I've been having problems with SLIP too and read in the NET-2-FAQ that
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the problem could be caused by compression. So I deleted the compression
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flag in the CONFIG file and recompiled...(it didn't fix the problem) but
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again, do I have to recompile the kernel? Since it takes about
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1 1/2 hours to do (on a 386/25), it takes a little longer to hack a
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fix. :-0
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Thanks!
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Stu
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From: vrgrimm@y.cip.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Volker Grimm)
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Subject: Smail in 99pl9
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 19:16:14 GMT
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I am running Linux .99pl9 and installed all of the SLS-Distrib.
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Since there are several persons working on my systems, lately we tried out
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sending mail via elm. It turns up, that mail can be sent from everywhere to
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user root but no other user can receive mail. All the docs don't seem to talk
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about probs on local systems but only about routing while messed up in a net-
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work.
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What do I have to do to make the other users known to the system ?
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Thanks, Volker.
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From: wgutz@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Wolfgang Utz)
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Subject: Re: NE-2000 Ethernet cards
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 11:44:39 GMT
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grosen@isc.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu (Johannes Grosen) writes:
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>In article <1993Sep9.145144.155762@hal.isc.toronto.ibm.com> paul@hal.isc.toronto.ibm.com (Paul Mora) writes:
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>Beginning, I believe, with pl12 you are given an opportunity to configure
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>you network card when you do a `make config' prior to building the kernel.
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>The driver for the NE2000 is included with the kernel source.
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I started to look around for Ethernet-Cards, too. And what I found out is the
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following:
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On the one hand there are NE2000-cards available and on the other hand they sell
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what is called NE2000-compatible-cards. The first difference one sees is the price:
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The later ones only cost about 100 Marks here in Germany, while the first cost up
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to 600 Marks.
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Now my question: Will those chaep cards really work with Linux? Has anyone any
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experiences?
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Any help will be good help! thanx in advance...
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-- Wolfgang
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Wolfgang Utz, Computer Science Student | (This section of the
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University of Erlangen (Germany) | document is intentionally
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e-mail: wgutz@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de | left blank)
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=========================================================================
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From: aron@luxor.ced.berkeley.edu (Aron Bonar)
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Subject: Re: X and Slackware 1.0.3?
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Date: 22 Sep 1993 21:20:57 GMT
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In article <27pou6INNnt3@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at>, ganter@fvkmapc02.tu-graz.ac.at (Fritz Ganter) writes:
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|> Robert Cooper (cooper@s1.elec.uq.oz.au) wrote:
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|>
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|> : So far everyone with problems with XFree 1.3 has had
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|> : a Tseng chip, either ET4000/ET3000 and pl12.
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|>
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|> : Is there anyone who has it working reliably with these
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|> : video chips??
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|>
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|> : Is there anyone else with other chips having trouble
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|> : or have it working reliably??
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|>
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|> : Post here so we can all see where the problem lies....
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|> Ok, *I* have no problems:
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|> ET4000AX, 1MB
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|> 386DX 40MHz, 8MB RAM
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|> Slackware 1.02
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I also haven't encontered any problems:
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486dx-50, 16 megs RAM
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Orchid Prodesigner 2s (ET4000) w/ 1meg
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Slackware 1.02, X running at 1024x768x256 interlaced
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Subject: [Rev.] startx won't start x..
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From: ph9991ha@uwrf.edu (James F Hall)
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Date: 22 Sep 93 16:03:48 -0600
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I USED TO BE PH9991_HALL@uwrf.ed BUT MY NEW ADDRESS IS:
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James.F.Hall@uwrf.edu
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I seem to have forgotten to mention the error messages that I got when
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asking for help in getting XWindows to run (please note the address
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has changed.)
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What follows is the file I got when using the command:
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startx 2> startx.err
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I am using the 1.03 of SLS release. I followed what docs I could find
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and wrote a .initrc file, which contains the lines shown in the man
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page on startx.
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I did try to answer my question on my own using the docs and faq's,
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but I am getting lost.
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FYI - Getting X to run is the next-to-last item on my "to-do" list
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before I declare my system completely tailored to my needs. Thanks
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for the help for this newbie. :-)
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--James.F.Hall@uwrf.edu
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==========================< startx.err >============================
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Setting TCP SO_LINGER: Protocol not available
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XFree86 Version 1.3 / X Window System
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(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 5000)
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Operating System: Linux
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Configured drivers:
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VGA256 (256 colour SVGA):
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et4000, et3000, pvga1, wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30, gvga, ati,
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tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga9000, clgd5420,
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clgd5422, clgd5424, clgd5426, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, cpq_avga
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(using VT number 7)
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Xconfig: /usr/X386/lib/X11/Xconfig
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Mouse: type: Microsoft, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200
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FontPath set to "/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
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ATI BIOS Information Block:
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Signature code: 31 = VGA WONDER
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Chip version: 1 = ATI 18800
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BIOS version: 1.0
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Byte at offset 0x42 = 0x01
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Byte at offset 0x44 = 0x4d
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This video adapter is a: VGA WONDER V3
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Amount of RAM on video adapter: 256k
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WARNING: Driver may not work correctly with your board!
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ATI driver requires at least 512k video RAM!
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VGA256: 'ati' is an invalid chipset
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*** None of the configured devices was detected.***
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Fatal server error:
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no screens found
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xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unexpected signal 13
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 93 01:41:50 +0100
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From: Eberhard_Moenkeberg@p27.rollo.central.de (Eberhard Moenkeberg)
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Subject: Re: Writing device drivers
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Hello Hugo and all others,
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on 21.09.93 Hugo Eide Gunnarsen wrote to All in USENET.COMP.OS.LINUX:
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HE> I'm trying to write some device drivers for linux.
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HE> The problem is that I can not find any documentation about this subject.
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HE> If anybody know about, or have any doc., please tell me.
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Get ftp.gwdg.de:/pub/linux2/doc/ldp/khg.ps - it is a possibly somewhat
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old alpha version of the "Linux Kernel Hacker's Guide", the difficultiest
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(and so, most incomplete) part of the Linux Documentation Project.
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Or, better: mail to Michael K. Johnson, the coordinator.
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Further, have a look into some "delivered", related drivers. I have been
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able to develop the SoundBlaster CDROM driver almost only by peeking into
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other drivers (mcd.c, sr.c, cdu31a.c) and grepping through
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/usr/include/linux...
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HE> Especially stuff like register_chrdev etc, so that I can fill
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HE> the proper structs,
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Look into the "living" examples. :-)
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HE> and use the kernel functions (printf!=printf) and so on.
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this is named printk.
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What kind of driver shall it grow?
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Greetings ... Eberhard
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help.misc,comp.os.linux
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From: egdorf@zaphod.lanl.gov (Skip Egdorf)
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Subject: More SLS 1.03 problems. Kernel make breaks.
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 21:54:28 GMT
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I have just installed SLS 1.03 retrieved from tsx-11.mit.edu on the
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afternoon of Sept 17.
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I had the same "noise" problems others have noted (e.g. TeX install
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complaining because some files are directories or some such...)
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however, the real problem comes when I try to rebuild the kernel.
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I have a 3com ethernet controller connected to a thickwire network. I
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am used to the fact that the ec503 driver is built for the thinwire
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conenctor, and needs the EL2_AUI symbol turned on. (That's ok, most
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Linux users probably want the thin instead of the thick wire, and I
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have no problem rebuilding kernels... until today, that is...)
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make config -> with "y" to most questions...
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make dep
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make zImage
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and when it gets to tty_io.c
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tty_io.c: In function `int tty_select (struct msdos_inode_info::inode*, struct ifs_file_info::file*, int, struct select_table_struct*)':
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tty_io.c:1420: Internal Compiler Error.
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tty_io.c:1420: Please submit a full bug report to `bug-g++@prep.ai.mit.edu'.
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This was a "clean" build of SLS onto new partitions, not an upgrade of
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an earlier version.
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This is the first SLS release where I haven't been able to do at least
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a kernel rebuild. I have tried to just use gcc rather than the c++ mode, but
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that causes many more problems. I have tried a few different 'make config'
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runs trying small vs large kernels, (though tty_io.c shouldn't be affected
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by much that can be done with make config) and am out of ideas.
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I can still get stuff from the net via a Sun (though the Sun's floppy is SOOO
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slow...) if needed.
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Any suggestions??
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Skip Egdorf
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hwe@lanl.gov
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help.misc,comp.os.linux
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From: egdorf@zaphod.lanl.gov (Skip Egdorf)
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Subject: Re: More SLS 1.03 problems. Kernel make breaks.
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 22:10:45 GMT
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In article <EGDORF.93Sep22155428@zaphod.lanl.gov> egdorf@zaphod.lanl.gov (Skip Egdorf) writes:
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I have just installed SLS 1.03 retrieved from tsx-11.mit.edu on the
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afternoon of Sept 17.
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...
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however, the real problem comes when I try to rebuild the kernel.
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And I have just found another interesting wrinkle, doing another make zImage
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doesn't change the problem, but REBOOTING does. It compiles tty_io.c
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with no problem and proceeds for a few dozen more files until it
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breaks again in the same way. I am now on my third reboot and the kernel
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is getting compiled slowly...
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What sort of memory does gcc have between runs that is cleared by a reboot???
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This is a 486/33 with 16 MB.
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Skip Egdorf
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hwe@lanl.gov
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