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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 93 03:13:06 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #260
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Linux-Activists Digest #260, Volume #6 Sat, 25 Sep 93 03:13:06 EDT
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Contents:
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Help (again), term problem with kermit (pingnan shi)
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SLS/Slackware/What? (Russell Nelson)
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Re: A DOS partition question... (Paul Mantyla 619-597-3678)
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Can't umount! (Matthew J. Ryan)
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Re: Ultrastor & Slackware boot (Steve Tinney)
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Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux (Steve Tinney)
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Getting a SCSI CD-ROM working (Thomas J Bilan)
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[Need Help] TERM hangs after four characters? (David R! Woloschuk)
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SLS boot-image (Camillo D'Aleo)
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MS9142 SCSI Support for Linux install? (Darren Spencer)
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Re: School Science Club may distribute Linux...interested? (James Olsen)
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Re: SCSI AHA 1542C & booting?
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Linux 0.99pl9 (SLS 1.01) and 3Com EtherLink 16? Any hope? (Donald Burr)
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WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux (Shannon Hendrix)
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NetBSD, FreeBSD or Linux on IBM AMBRA platform? (David W. Smith)
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Re: xxgdb problem? (Jeff Jennings)
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Re: School Science Club may distribute Linux...interested? (11086)
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From: pings@ee.ubc.ca (pingnan shi)
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Subject: Help (again), term problem with kermit
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Date: 24 Sep 1993 22:32:06 GMT
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Reply-To: pings@ee.ubc.ca
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Hi guys. Since I posted my problem with term-1.07 a couple of weeks ago, I
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still haven't got the right answer. Now I can't run X windows remotely. :-(
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This is unbearable. So I have to ask you again. The problem is as follows:
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When I was using the previous SLS package, I run term-1.05 on both local
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and remote machines. I started kermit first and connected to the remote
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machine and then broke back to the local machine and did
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Kermit>!term <> /dev/ttyS1 &
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Kermit>!trsh
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Then I got back to the remote machine and could start X window programs
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there.
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But now with the SLS-1.03 and term-1.07 installed, the above procedure
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did not work. After trsh, all I get is
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Connect: Invalid argument
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and the connection to the remote machine is broken.
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Anyone knows what might be the problem? Both my local and remote machine
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have installed term-1.07, so there isn't any imcompatability problem. Is
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it the term-1.07, the SLS-1.03, or the kermit? Please help.
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Another problem after I installed SLS-1.03 is when I use mdir, I get
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mdir: Cannot initialize 'A:'
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What is the problem?
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+------------------------------------------------------------+
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| Pingnan Shi (pings@ee.ubc.ca) _______ _______ __|__ |
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| /___. \ | / ___|___ |
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| Dept. of Electrical Engineering /| | ---|--- |_\_/_| |
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| Univ. of British Columbia / | | | |--|--| |
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| Vancouver, BC, Canada. V6T 1W5 |___| | | | .| |
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From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
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Subject: SLS/Slackware/What?
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 93 18:22:53 GMT
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In article <CDuM7r.2BK8@ns1.nodak.edu> person@plains.NoDak.edu writes:
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In article <2uLBac2w165w@works.uucp> ferret@works.uucp (Dave Ferret) writes:
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>Pardon me, I just got here.
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>
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>I've only heard of the SLS release, is Slackware another packaged
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>release, or what? How many others than SLS are there?
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Yes. It is another BETTER package. Slackware's maintainer is much more
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responsive to updates and general support than the SLS people are.
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I've never had any trouble getting answers from SLS. Then again, I'm
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a customer of theirs...
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-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
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Crynwr Software Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
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11 Grant St. 315-268-1925 Voice | LPF member - ask me about
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Potsdam, NY 13676 315-268-9201 FAX | the harm software patents do.
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From: paulm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Paul Mantyla 619-597-3678)
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Subject: Re: A DOS partition question...
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 93 20:57:06 GMT
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John Banghart (john@midget.towson.edu) wrote:
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> Let's say I partition my HD 110meg for linux, 10meg sway, and 50meg for
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> DOS. Can I run DoubleSpace(which is what I have, so no flames about
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> stacker being better) on my DOS partition only?
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>
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Yes. All it knows is that you have a C: drive.
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> Also, is there a way to partition my drive without having to delete
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> everything on it in the process?
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No.
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Paul J. Mantyla
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From: ryanm4@hall101.its.rpi.edu (Matthew J. Ryan)
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Subject: Can't umount!
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Date: 24 Sep 1993 23:06:08 GMT
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Has anyone been unable to umount partitions after compiling
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with GCC in it?
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I encountered this, on my SLS 1.03 system. I could umount
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and mount /usr/local, no problem. But after I compiled anything
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in the directory with GCC, umount would refuse to unmount
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/usr/local with the "Device Busy" error message. I don't
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have any programs running out of /usr/local, the only shell
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(me, logged in as root) is not in /usr/local, so I can't understand
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why the device is busy! This is a completely vanilla SLS 1.03
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installation - nothing has been changed yet. I thought of using
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fuser to find any open files, but it appears that fuser is not
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available. Does anyone have _any_ ideas (other than switch to
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MCC (which I'm seriously considering)) ? Is there a way to
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look at Linux's FCB (open file list)?
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Please help - I dont want to shutdown my system - This has
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happen before, same installation, and last time it ate
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/usr/local and /usr, and I had to reinstall.
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From: sjt@enlil.museum.upenn.edu (Steve Tinney)
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Subject: Re: Ultrastor & Slackware boot
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Date: 24 Sep 93 14:48:06 GMT
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Patrick J. Volkerding (bf703@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:
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: In a previous article, cap2624@ultb.isc.rit.edu (C.A. Peskin) says:
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: >OK, I have just set up a system. I am running a 486DX2 66. It's got a
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: >Western Digital 1003 MFM controller for the floppys and two MFM drives.
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: >I also have an UltraStor 34F VLB with a Maxtor 340S. I have finaly
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: >configured both cards to co-exist in the same machine, and it works
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: >smootly under MS-DOS. Now, When I boot the new SLS install/boot, it
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: >recognizes my two MFMs, but says I have no SCSI devices. I though
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: >Slackware supported Ultrastor? WHat should I do?!
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: Assuming the 34F is one of the supported UltraStor cards (and I don't
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: think all of them are), I'd say to play with any IRQs or other hardware
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: settings you can change. You might, for instance, want to temporarily
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: pull the MFM controller and see if that makes any difference.
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: --
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: Patrick Volkerding
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: volkerdi@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu
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: bf703@cleveland.freenet.edu
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I can confirm that with only an Ultrastor 34F in the machine,
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with the mailbox i/o port set to 340h, factory default IRQ and
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other settings, the new Slackware boot/install disk works just
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fine.
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Steve
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From: sjt@enlil.museum.upenn.edu (Steve Tinney)
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Subject: Re: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux
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Date: 24 Sep 93 16:18:16 GMT
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spring@diku.dk (Jesper Honig Spring) writes:
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>Does anyone know of a wordprocessor (besides TEX, if one might call it a wordprocessor)
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>a la WordPerfect for Linux.
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Unless I'm much mistaken I noticed a package in the X disks of Slackware
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which was described as a word-processor that writes TeX output, so you
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might want to look into that. I didn't install it, but I seem to remember
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it was called `doc1'.
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Has anyone actually used this?
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Steve
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From: bilan@cps.msu.edu (Thomas J Bilan)
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Subject: Getting a SCSI CD-ROM working
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Date: 25 Sep 1993 00:01:13 GMT
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I have an Always IN2000 card and a TEXEL-3024 SCSI cd-rom drive hooked up
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on my system. Last weekend I had the above plus a bernoulli removable 150meg
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drive working with linux (which was easier than I expected) so I know the
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SCSI card is ok.
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BUT
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I can't get my cd-rom drive to work. Does it need to be a certain logical
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SCSI id? I know the bernoulli wouldn't work until I had it setup as id 0.
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I can't mount the rom drive no matter what I try. Is there a -t parameter
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for rom drives?
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i.e. mount -t ???? /dev/scd0 /cdrom <-- this directory DOES exist
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I have rebuilt my kernel several times with no problems. I have included
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SCSI cd-rom, the IN2000 and the IS09660 support. Do I need to have the
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Mitsumi or the CDU31A?
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I'm sure I'm doing something stupid.
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Any help would be appreciated.
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Tom Bilan
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/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
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$ Department of Death by Engineering ^ Surgeon General's Warning: $
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$ Michigan State University ^ Graduate School may cause brain $
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$ bilan@cps.msu.edu ^ damage and sporadic loss of hair $
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From: davidw@cs.UAlberta.CA (David R! Woloschuk)
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Subject: [Need Help] TERM hangs after four characters?
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 07:00:31 GMT
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Hi
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I'm running SLS Linux 1.03 and X3 ( X server for S3 chipset) on an IBM VP
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386 33DX/3 and am trying to get term up and running, but every time I connect
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it "hangs" after I type 4 characters... My procedure is the following:
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Dial up remote system via KERMIT
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log on to remote machine
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run "term" remotely
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escape back to local prompt
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suspend kermit
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run "term < /dev/cua0 > /dev/cua0"
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go to another shell window and run "trsh"
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At this point, it connects remotely ( a Sun 4 ) and seems ok. I type "ls" and
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return at which point the remote directories are listed. Fine. I try "ls"
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but only the "l" is displayed and the window seemingly freezes!
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If I kill the "trsh" process, start kermit again, connect, and fire off "000000"
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the remote "term" ends and I'm back at the remote prompt.
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I've run linecheck and test and all is "seemingly" well...
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Has anyone had this problem? Am I missing something here?
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Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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David R! Woloschuk
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From: builder@mindvox.phantom.com (Camillo D'Aleo)
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Subject: SLS boot-image
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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 00:48:13 GMT
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Maybe someone can explain whats going on here:
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I havethe SLS boot-image file a1.5. Its 1,228,928 bytes large. My
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problem happens when I rawrite it to a high density floppy (5-1/4"). It
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seems to work fne until it gets to track 80. At this point rawrite stops
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and says: 'address not found.'
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I suspect its because the file is too big for the disk. Why would they
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write a boot-image too big for a floppy? Any responses are welcome.
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From: dazza@arcadia.cs.rmit.EDU.AU (Darren Spencer)
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Subject: MS9142 SCSI Support for Linux install?
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Date: 25 Sep 1993 01:29:55 GMT
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Hi all,
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I wish to install Linux on my 386 PC. The hardware is capaable of it..
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except that I have a SCSI hard drive running off a MicroSolution
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model MS9142 SCSi Controller. Will Linux work with this? Anyone else
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got one of these? It is a 16 bit card and the ROM is dated 1991 if
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that helps...
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Thanks Darren
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Darren Spencer * Comp Sci Masters Student * Assist Sys Admin * RMIT Bundoora
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Email: dazza@arcadia.cs.rmit.edu.au t9014199@phillip.edu.au
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From: olsen@HING.LCS.MIT.EDU (James Olsen)
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Subject: Re: School Science Club may distribute Linux...interested?
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Date: 25 Sep 1993 02:39:32 GMT
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In article <CDvo0C.4GI@acsu.buffalo.edu> ferrick@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrick K. Ferrick) writes:
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>I said:
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>>>Our high school science club may distribute Linux on floppies as a
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>>>means of raising money for projects. What we're thinking of is
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>>>that instead of buying the floppies from us, people might be
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>>>interested in renting the disks (in order to make copies of them)
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>And I blew it big time. Sorry.
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In spite of what the self-appointed net guardians of GPL purity may
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have told you, your disk-rental idea is a fine one, and well within
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the spirit of the GPL.
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You cannot sell GPL'ed software. However, you _can_ sell the service
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of copying it, and you can sell the media on which it is carried. For
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these things, you can charge whatever the market will bear. Linus
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himself has hinted that if he heard that someone willingly paid a huge
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sum for a copy of Linux, he would be pleased and flattered.
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In your case, you would be just renting out the _media_ on which the
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software is carried. The GPL'ed _software_ belongs to its author, but
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the _media_ (the physical objects on which the software is recorded)
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belong to you, and there's nothing wrong with renting them out.
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What you don't have the right to do is:
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- restrict further copying, or
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- distribute the software without either
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-- the source code, or
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-- an offer to distribute the source code, or
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-- whatever information you have received about availability
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of the source code.
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Don't believe the self-righteous GPL censors. The GPL is designed to
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promote the distribution of software by permitting people to copy
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and distribute it, either for profit or not.
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--
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Jim Olsen - olsen@cag.lcs.mit.edu
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From: schulz@orchis.enet.dec.com ()
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Subject: Re: SCSI AHA 1542C & booting?
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Reply-To: schulz@orchis.enet.dec.com ()
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 13:44:03 GMT
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Hi Peter,
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have you tried it with default settings?
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We experienced this behaviour after we had changed some parameters.
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After a reset to factory defaults it worked.
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Bye
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Detlef
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
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From: dburr@sbanet.netmail.com (Donald Burr)
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Subject: Linux 0.99pl9 (SLS 1.01) and 3Com EtherLink 16? Any hope?
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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 00:16:59 GMT
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Hello, Linuxers!!
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I just purchased a new Ethernet card for my 386DX/40 clone. It is a
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3Com EtherLink 16, a 16-bit ISA Ethernet card with both an AUI port
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and a BNC connector.
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I'm running Linux 0.99pl9, as distributed with SLS 1.01, and would like
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to get Linux running using this card, so that I can start building my
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dream of a home Ethernet network. I would like to use the BNC connector,
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since I've got other devices that use ThinNet cabling. However, I do have
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a transceiver that plugs into the AUI port, so I can use that if needed.
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A few questions:
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(1) Is there a driver for this card, for Linux 0.99pl9? If so,
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(A) Where can I get it? (FTP site)
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(B) How do I install it? (if it's not obviously documented in README)
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(2) If there isn't a driver for 0.99pl9, is there a driver for 0.99pl10 or
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any of the other newer versions of Linux?
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(A) If so, where can I get it?
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(B) How do I install it? (if it's not obviously documented in README)
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(3) If there isn't ANY driver for this card...
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(A) Is this card sufficiently compatible/similar with another type of
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network card, that I can use the driver for that other card?
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(B) Where can I get it, and how do I install it?
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(C) If no drivers that exist will work, is there any hope of MAKING a
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driver for this card? (i.e. are the spec's available, or is it a
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case like with Diamond video boards, where they won't release the
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info necessary to program it)
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Please respond to me here at dburr@sbanet.netmail.com. THANK YOU!!
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--
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__ _ __ Donald Burr, System Admin.
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/ ) // / / ) Santa Barbara Area Network
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/ / ________ __. // __/ /--< . . __ __ INTERNET:
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/__/_(_) / / <_(_/|_</_(_/_ /___/_(_/_/ (_/ (_ dburr@sbanet.netmail.com
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From: shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu (Shannon Hendrix)
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Subject: WordProcessor (~=TEX) for Linux
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Date: 24 Sep 1993 23:19:20 -0400
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Reply-To: shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu (Shannon Hendrix)
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[ stuff deleted ]
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Long time no see... have not been able to make it to TWUUG... still
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there eh? Bill Roberts doesn't respond to any mail now... must be
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busy...
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csh / shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu / Christopher Newport University
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Well, emacs isn't always what it's cracked up to be... looks like I
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made BABYL babble again...
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csh / shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu / Christopher Newport University
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From: dwsmith@uncle-sam.llnl.gov (David W. Smith)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: NetBSD, FreeBSD or Linux on IBM AMBRA platform?
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Date: 25 Sep 1993 04:38:09 GMT
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I've just recently read about the new IBM company called AMBRA. They
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are manufacturing some new machines based on an IBM manufactured Intel
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processor called the 486 Blue Lighting. I believe they also produce a
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machine with a model number D466E/VL with is an Intel 486DX2 66
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EISA/VESA LB system.
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Now the my question -- Does any one know or have tried to get NetBSD,
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FreeBSD, or Linux running on this machine? I am interested in two of
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their models they are the D466BL/CD and the D466E/VL machines. The
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first is a 5 slot ISA system with 2 VESA LB slots and built in SCSI
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and 10BaseT ethnet. The second model is 7 slot EISA/2 VESA LB and a S3
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video accelerator. There was no mention of a SCSI controller or of
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ethernet.
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I know these are new machines so there is probably not a good chance someone
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has tested this configuration yet, but I thought I would ask anyways.
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What about AIX? Does IBM have a Intel port?
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Thanks,
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David W. Smith
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dwsmith@llnl.gov
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510-423-9905
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David W. Smith
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From: jennings@lhotse.stortek.com (Jeff Jennings)
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Subject: Re: xxgdb problem?
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 18:18:22 GMT
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manuel Toledo-Quinones (manuel@engc.bu.edu) wrote:
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: Josep Mulet Mestre. Dpto. Algebra (mulet@graf.ci.uv.es) wrote:
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: : When running xgdb under linux 0.99pl12 I obtain the following response each
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: : time I issue a command:
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: : [ioctl TIOCSPGRP failed in terminal_inferior: Not a typewriter]
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: : The commands work but it begin to get on my nerves...
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: : Any solution?
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: : BTW, does anyone know some docs to customize xgdb?
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: : Thanks
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: : Pep
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: I have the same problem. If someone knows how to solve it, can I have the
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: answer, if not posted, e-mailed to me as well?
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: thanks,
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: manuel@engc.bu.edu
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upgrade to gdb 4.10
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- or -
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when you start xxgdb, use the command "xxgdb -tty=`tty` <rest of command line>"
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- jeff
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Jeff Jennings | Imagination is more important than knowledge.
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Jeff_Jennings@stortek.com | - Albert Einstein
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Storage Tek - Iceberg | (~) Turn down your lights (~)
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LSVL 4 (303)673-7855 | U (where applicable) U
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GCS -d+ -p+ c++ l++ u+(++) e++ m+ s/+ n+(---) h---(*) f+(-) !g w+ t++ r- y+(*)
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From: u1086aa@unx.ucc.okstate.edu (11086)
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Subject: Re: School Science Club may distribute Linux...interested?
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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 05:33:19 GMT
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In article <280b14$8e6@GRAPEVINE.LCS.MIT.EDU> olsen@HING.LCS.MIT.EDU (James Olsen) writes:
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>In article <CDvo0C.4GI@acsu.buffalo.edu> ferrick@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrick K. Ferrick) writes:
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>>I said:
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>>>>Our high school science club may distribute Linux on floppies as a
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>>>>means of raising money for projects. What we're thinking of is
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>>>>that instead of buying the floppies from us, people might be
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>>>>interested in renting the disks (in order to make copies of them)
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>
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>>And I blew it big time. Sorry.
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>
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>In spite of what the self-appointed net guardians of GPL purity may
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>have told you, your disk-rental idea is a fine one, and well within
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>the spirit of the GPL.
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>
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[self-appointed net guardian-isms of GPL purity deleted]
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>
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>Don't believe the self-righteous GPL censors. The GPL is designed to
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>promote the distribution of software by permitting people to copy
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>and distribute it, either for profit or not.
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Lighten up, guy! In the posts I have seen (and one by me), no one has
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acted as a "self-righteous GPL censor". We simply saw a case where we
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thought a GPL infringement **might** occur, warned the original poster
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of this possibility, and asked experts on the GPL to comment. No one
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tried to censor anything. We just wanted to maybe help a science club
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avoid a rather sticky situation later. And I for one am glad this can be
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resolved before they got started...it would have certainly caused a
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few minutes of sleeplessness if they had been accused of (accidentally)
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participating in an illegal activity after they had distributed several
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copies (whether the accusations have grounds or not).
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And by the way, I have no reason believe your interpretation of the
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"spirit" of the GPL is the correct one, based on information given in
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your post. Are you a member of the FSF? Or an attorney who specializes in
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software? Also, does the intended spirit of a legal document mean diddly
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anyway? I'm pretty sure (in the US anyway) that what is actually written
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down is all that counts. Otherwise, how could people always find, and act
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on, loopholes.
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I would still like to hear comments on this issue from someone who has
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something in his by-line that convinces me his interpretation is valid.
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Flames will be read, considered, and answered if the flamer requests a
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response.
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Jim
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My opinions are my own
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Jim West
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Associate Professor
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Electrical and Computer Engineering
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Oklahoma State University
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jwest@jwest.ecen.okstate.edu
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