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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 93 21:13:20 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #288
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Linux-Activists Digest #288, Volume #6 Tue, 5 Oct 93 21:13:20 EDT
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Contents:
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Linux news groups... (Dave Clemans)
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Re: FidoNet software (jschief@finbol.toppoint.de)
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Re: Linux news groups... (Lars Wirzenius)
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X hangs on exit. please help (Madhu Yellamalli)
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norton-like shell for unix? (Hajo Simons)
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request for text titles (erlermf@cnsvax.uwec.edu)
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Re: Problem in Printing (Savio Lam)
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Re: Problem in Printing (Peter Wai Kwok Lie)
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Problem in Printing (Chan Chi Chiu)
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>Re: Yggdrasil cdrom problem booting (Gareth Bult)
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Re: Yggdrasil cdrom problem booting (Gareth Bult)
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Re: FYI.. benchmarks on linux and 386bsd (Mark_Weaver@brown.edu)
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problems with mounting dos partitions (Gerry Gucher)
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Re: any S.New Hampshire users? (Gareth Bult)
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Re: Linux news groups... (Andrew R. Tefft)
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need specs for Xconfig, for Video7 102i interlaced svga card.. (Jeff Stern)
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Re: What is the ftp name for wuarchive? (Dhaliwal Bikram Singh)
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SLS 1.03 w/ ne2000 (Dick JunJei Lin)
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Re: FYI.. benchmarks on linux and 386bsd (Chris G. Demetriou)
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Re: What is the ftp name for wuarchive? (Laszlo Herczeg)
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From: dclemans@$DOMAIN (Dave Clemans)
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Subject: Linux news groups...
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Date: 5 Oct 1993 15:54:01 GMT
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Reply-To: dave_clemans@mentorg.com
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I've seen a number of messages in this newsgroup saying that it
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should be phased out, and instead more specific newsgroups like
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comp.os.linux.* should be used.
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Has those more specific newsgroups been created net-wide?
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If they have, I suggest the newgrp messages got lost somewhere. None
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of the local sites I have access to have newgrp creation messages
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for linux newsgroups, other than comp.os.linux and comp.os.linux.announce.
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dgc
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From: jschief@finbol.toppoint.de
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Subject: Re: FidoNet software
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 13:59:15 GMT
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ben@compsol.fidonet.org (ben elliston) writes:
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>Has anyone seen FidoNet-compatible mail software anywhere for Linux?
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>Specifically, I'm looking for a mail processor and a message reader/editor.
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There is one, have a look at you favourite ftpsite somewhere in
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../comm/..
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Sorry, I can't find my copy to give the full name.
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Joerg
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--
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Joerg Schlaeger jschief@finbol.toppoint.de
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24113 Kiel Tel.: ++49 431 682210 (voice)
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From: wirzeniu@cs.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
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Subject: Re: Linux news groups...
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Date: 5 Oct 1993 17:55:44 GMT
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> [ comp.os.linux is being replaced with new groups ]
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>
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> Has those more specific newsgroups been created net-wide?
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Yes.
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> If they have, I suggest the newgrp messages got lost somewhere. None
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> of the local sites I have access to have newgrp creation messages
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> for linux newsgroups, other than comp.os.linux and comp.os.linux.announce.
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You should contact your news administrator. The new groups are
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listed in the checkgroups message, and in the list of newsgroups
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posted by David Lawrence.
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(The problem might, of course, be upstream from you; in that case
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you need to contact your upstream site. Iterate as needed.)
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> From: dclemans@$DOMAIN (Dave Clemans)
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There seems to be something else that is wrong on your site, as well.
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--
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Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi (finger wirzeniu@klaava.helsinki.fi)
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It doesn't matter who you are, it's what you do that takes you far. --Madonna
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From: myellama@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Madhu Yellamalli)
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Subject: X hangs on exit. please help
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Date: 5 Oct 93 16:22:04 GMT
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I recently bought a pc GATEWAY2000 (486dx, 16mbRAM, 400MB IDE hard disk
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crystal scan 1572 monitor). I installed Linux on my system. Everything
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seems to be working fine. But I have a problem when exiting X. The faq
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says to exit X kill the last process started in .xinitrc which is olwm
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in my case. But when i kill my window manager, I am not getting back to
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the shell prompt. Instead my whole screen freezes with vertical stripes
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on it. I doesn't know what is happening.I have to reboot the system when
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ever this happens, which is a big pain. I even tried alt-ctrl-backspc.
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(I did this thinking that the X server was not killed) Even that is not
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working. Can somebody tell me what is happening and how to overcome
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this ?
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thank u very much,
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-madhu.
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From: H.SIMONS@TEC-BOX.zer.de (Hajo Simons)
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Subject: norton-like shell for unix?
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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1993 12:33:23 +0100
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Hi folks!
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Does anybody know about a shell that is comparable to the
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"Norton Commander" running under MS-DOS?
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I mean a shell that makes copying, moving and purging files
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more comfortable. ( No, it's _not_ for me but someone else ;-)
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If you know such one, could you post it to
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h.simons@tec-box.zer.de
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or
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100022,2450@compuserve.com
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or, could you point to a ftp-site and path that contains it?
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thanks in advance
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HaJo
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( please only email, because I've not subscribed to this newsgroup )
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From: erlermf@cnsvax.uwec.edu
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Subject: request for text titles
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Date: 5 Oct 93 14:27:50 -0600
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Please excuse if this is too off topic for some. Like
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many of you I am the proud user of the LINIX OS. I would like
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to know if anyone would recommend system administration texts
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that they found informative. I have looked at the FAQs and would
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like to know more. Again, please excuse if this information
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is in a FAQ, I missed that one obviously, or if this request
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is too off topic.
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Thanks in advance,
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-=Matthew=-
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--
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ERLERMF@CNSVAX.UWEC.EDU
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ERLERMF@ADAM.CS.UWEC.EDU
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Crossposted-To: cs.forum
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From: lam836@cs.cuhk.hk (Savio Lam)
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Subject: Re: Problem in Printing
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Reply-To: lam836@cs.cuhk.hk
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 15:40:22 GMT
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Chan Chi Chiu (ccchan@cs.cuhk.hk) wrote:
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> I've just installed the GNU Emacs 19.19.1, but I have problem in using
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> it to print as it just feed papers out and print nothing.
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> The printer I use is HP Deskjet 500C.
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> Can anyone help?
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> Furthermore, is there any word processor for Linux or X-Windows which is
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> more powerful than Emacs?
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Do you mean Word Processor or Text Editor? For text editor, I think
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Emacs is the most powerful text editor ever made. However, if you
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prefer user-friendliness to powerfulness, there is a WordStar look alike
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text editor called joe. For word processor, there is 'doc' from the
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InterView package. Not as good as WinWord, but it works. There is also
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'ez' from the Andrew's package. However, I think LaTeX is nice too for
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preparing papers or reports.
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Regards,
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Savio Lam.
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--
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###############################################################################
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# | _ #
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# ------------------------------- | _| |_ #
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# Lam Lai Yin, Savio | |_ _| #
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# | | | #
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# Internet: lam836@cs.cuhk.hk | / \ Can't live with DOS? #
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# Department of Computer Science | | DOS | #
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# Chinese University of Hong Kong | | | Try Linux... #
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# ------------------------------- | | | #
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# | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ #
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###############################################################################
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Crossposted-To: cs.forum
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From: wklie@cs.cuhk.hk (Peter Wai Kwok Lie)
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Subject: Re: Problem in Printing
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 17:06:01 GMT
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ccchan@cs.cuhk.hk (Chan Chi Chiu) writes:
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>Furthermore, is there any word processor for Linux or X-Windows which is
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>more powerful than Emacs?
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Use DESQview/X to run WordPerfect 6.0 in a DOS session. If you can
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tolerate low speed, start MS Windows 3.1 Standard Mode in DESQview/X,
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then run Lotus Ami Pro 3.01 can be even more powerful... :-O~
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Best Regards,
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Peter Wai-Kwok Lie
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--
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| Computer Science | Life is a harsh Role Playing Game. si |
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| Chinese University | I can't save/load game (undo) or pause. |
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| of Hong Kong | Cheating in RPG leads to quick success. |
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| wklie@cs.cuhk.hk | Cheating in Life leads to tragedy. gh |
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Crossposted-To: cs.forum
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From: ccchan@cs.cuhk.hk (Chan Chi Chiu)
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Subject: Problem in Printing
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 15:08:23 GMT
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I've just installed the GNU Emacs 19.19.1, but I have problem in using
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it to print as it just feed papers out and print nothing.
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The printer I use is HP Deskjet 500C.
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Can anyone help?
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Furthermore, is there any word processor for Linux or X-Windows which is
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more powerful than Emacs?
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Thanks in advanced.
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Charles,
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ccchan@cs.cuhk.hk
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From: gareth@gblinux.demon.co.uk (Gareth Bult)
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Subject: >Re: Yggdrasil cdrom problem booting
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 11:46:38 GMT
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On 4 Oct 93 14:24:06 GMT;
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----Roland Kwee (rkwee@ursula.ee.pdx.edu) said:
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>In fact, I am not very happy with the Yggdrasil CD. As a CD, it is
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>expensive to produce an update, and the Yggdrasil is patchlevel 5 or 7,
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>while the newest Linux version is pl 13. Probably we are better off
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>with a bigger hard disk and the newest version from SLS or downloaded
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>from the net. E.g., Yggdrasils linux does not recognize ext2 file systems.
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The latest Yggdrasil CD is available with pl13. I presently costs $25.
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From: gareth@gblinux.demon.co.uk (Gareth Bult)
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Subject: Re: Yggdrasil cdrom problem booting
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 11:50:45 GMT
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On 2 Oct 1993 16:53:16 GMT;
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----Frederick J. Goodrum (frgoodrum@delphi.com) said:
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>
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>I purchased Yggdrasil CDROM and am trying to install linux in the
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>cd_dependent mode (my hard drive is to small for the other versions)
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>I Cannot boot from the hard drive however as the kernel (sic?) cannot find
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>my CDROM.
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Which version of the CD?
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There are 2 usual causes;
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1) You do not have your CD on the correct hardware settings.
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you need base address 300 and IRQ 5 by default.
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2) Newer drives have nasty firmware that breaks the driver.
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If you only have boot floppy rev B, you need rev C.
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>According to the online doc I have to recompile linux setting the ISO-9660
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>flag. The is great if I can fit the sources on my pc. but according to the
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>doc that ain't gonna happen. This sounds like a chicken and egg problem.
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>question: Is there a minimal group of source files I can copy to my hard
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>drive to perform the recompile?
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>Should I request an updated CDROM (I thought the floppies and the CD
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>would be in sync)?
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>Thanks in advance
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The ISO9660 filesystem is compiled into the yggdrasil kernel when you get
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it.. otherwise you could never load the thing could you?
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:)
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Gareth.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
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From: Mark_Weaver@brown.edu
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Subject: Re: FYI.. benchmarks on linux and 386bsd
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 21:59:19 GMT
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In article <2CB12A8D.17397@news.service.uci.edu> jstern@aris.ss.uci.edu (Jeff Stern) writes:
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> These are two different dhrystone benchmarks, and a dhampstone
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> benchmark which I compiled both under gcc (without optimization) on
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> each system. To be fair, I can't remember which gcc I was running on
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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> the 386bsd system, the one on linux is 2.4.5. The version of bsd I
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> had was 0.1, of course, with a few patches. Linux here is SLS
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> 0.99.12/1.03. My box is a 386-33 Micronics with 8MB ram and 64K
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> cache, no wait states, and a co-processor (for what it's worth).
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> Also, for what it's worth, each compile had different problems which I
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> pragmatically hacked, having to do with conflicts with the libraries
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> on previous declarations. i can explain each of these if anyone wanted
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> to get into it..
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You you were running gcc version 1 (the default that comes with
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386bsd 0.1) then that explains it. gcc2 has a significantly better
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optimizer that could easily explain this kind of speed difference.
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Mark
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====================================================================
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Email: Mark_Weaver@brown.edu | Brown University
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PGP Key: finger mhw@cs.brown.edu | Dept of Computer Science
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From: gegu@zurich.spectrospin.ch (Gerry Gucher)
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Subject: problems with mounting dos partitions
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Date: 5 Oct 93 21:51:03 GMT
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Hello Linuxers,
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I have 2 problems with mounting msdos partitions under linux.
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1) I have my msdos harddisk partition automatically mounted at
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boot time as /c with the following fstab entry:
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/dev/sda2 /c msdos defaults
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things are almost fine, except that all files and directories
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on /c belong to user root, group root and have permissions
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rwxr-xr-x, which means I cannot create or modify any files
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on the dos partition as a regular user. I tried to give 'loose'
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permissions to the mount point (/c) to the device (/dev/sda2),
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I explicitely specified 'w' as mounting option, all to no avail.
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Is there a way to automatically mount the partition at boot
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time with rw permissions on the files ? I imagine writing
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a C program with owner me and 'setuid' bit set, which is called
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by the boot script and mounts the disk would probably work, because
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when I mount manually, the permissions are all right. But I find
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this an ugly hack and wonder if there is another way to do it.
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2) I also want to have the disk drives in the fstab file, so I
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don't have to specify the whole "mount -t msdos /dev/fd...... /a"
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command to mount a file. The problem is that I don't want to
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mount the floppies when booting. I tried
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/dev/fd0H1440 /a msdos noauto,default
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/dev/fd1h1200 /b msdos noauto,default
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This properly prevents the floppies to be mounted at boot time,
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but unfortunately a simple 'mount /a' does not work either.
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What can I do except writing a 'setuid' program that does the
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work ?
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Thanks for any hints
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Gerry
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+------------------------------------------------------------------+
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| Gerry Gucher gegu@spectrospin.ch |
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| Spectrospin AG, Industriestr 26, 8117 Faellanden Switzerland |
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+------------------------------------------------------------------+
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| A program that returns the wrong | There is nothing wrong with |
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| result twice as fast is infinitely | making mistakes, but make |
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| slower. - H. Spencer | new ones. - D.Sim |
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From: gareth@gblinux.demon.co.uk (Gareth Bult)
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Subject: Re: any S.New Hampshire users?
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 23:08:38 GMT
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Pointless. A set up demo can make it look as good or BETTER than any
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Unix workstation.
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It runs the same software as other Unix workstations, and based on the
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performance I get and benchmark results of other systems, it out
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performs most (if not all) other PC Unixes.
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From: teffta@cs690-3.erie.ge.com (Andrew R. Tefft)
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Subject: Re: Linux news groups...
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 22:52:49 GMT
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>From: dclemans@$DOMAIN (Dave Clemans)
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>Reply-To: dave_clemans@mentorg.com
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>
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>Has those more specific newsgroups been created net-wide?
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Yes, quite a while ago.
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>If they have, I suggest the newgrp messages got lost somewhere. None
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>of the local sites I have access to have newgrp creation messages
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>for linux newsgroups, other than comp.os.linux and comp.os.linux.announce.
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Many many sites have all the new groups. Some are set up so
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that newgrp messages get forwarded to a person, who may or may
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not have time to create the groups.
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Anyway, judging by your From: header line (above), I would
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say your particular news installation needs a bit of work :-)
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Seriously though, ask your news administrator to fix your From:
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header and create the new groups. He can check the official group
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listings from news.* if he doesn't believe you (or you can make
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it easy on him and grep out the relevant info for him -- it should
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even still be in the "currently active votes" periodic posting.
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--
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Andy Tefft - new, expanded .sig - teffta@cs690-3.erie.ge.com
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From: jstern@aris.ss.uci.edu (Jeff Stern)
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Subject: need specs for Xconfig, for Video7 102i interlaced svga card..
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Date: 5 Oct 93 22:03:03 GMT
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Didn't see any for this card in vga.dbase, so if anyone's got 'em,
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would you please forward them? Thanks..
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Jeff Stern <jstern@aris.ss.uci.edu>
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"Timex Sinclair UNIX.. coming soon to a dealer near you."
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From: a228dhal@cdf.toronto.edu (Dhaliwal Bikram Singh)
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Subject: Re: What is the ftp name for wuarchive?
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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 00:10:59 GMT
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In article <1993Oct5.043537.20485@cdf.toronto.edu> a228dhal@cdf.toronto.edu (Dhaliwal Bikram Singh) writes:
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>I used to use a ftp site before called wuarchive.xxxx.edu.
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>Does anybody know what the rest of the domain is in its address
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>(I forgot).
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>
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>Thanks, and happy new year!
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>--
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>a228dhal@cdf.toronto.edu
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>Bikram Dhaliwal
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>(416) 845-4567
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Please!!! No more responses, the address is wuarchive.wustl.edu .
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I typed mail this morning and the list of responses scrolled off my
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60 line long xterm.
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I want to thank all that mailed me.
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I would also like to apologize for posting something that apparantly
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has nothing to do with Linux.
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a228dhal@cdf.toronto.edu
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Bikram Dhaliwal
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(416) 845-4567
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From: b811014@math.ntu.edu.tw (Dick JunJei Lin)
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Subject: SLS 1.03 w/ ne2000
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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 00:39:32 GMT
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I've installed SLS 1.03 with my NE2000. I setup my network options
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via doinstall of SLS 1.03 but it dosen't work ! Does this relate
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to IRQ/Port setting on NE2000 ?
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From: cgd@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Chris G. Demetriou)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
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Subject: Re: FYI.. benchmarks on linux and 386bsd
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Date: 5 Oct 93 17:46:50
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In article <MARK_WEAVER.93Oct5175919@excelsior.cis.brown.edu> Mark_Weaver@brown.edu writes:
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>You you were running gcc version 1 (the default that comes with
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>386bsd 0.1) then that explains it. gcc2 has a significantly better
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>optimizer that could easily explain this kind of speed difference.
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geez, considering that 386bsd beat linux by a large percentage
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with a *poorer* optimizer, i'm not sure i want to think about
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with an equivalent optimizer... *chuckle*
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chris
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chris g. demetriou cgd@cs.berkeley.edu
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smarter than your average clam.
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From: las@whome.uucp (Laszlo Herczeg)
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Subject: Re: What is the ftp name for wuarchive?
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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 00:04:53 GMT
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Dhaliwal Bikram Singh (a228dhal@cdf.toronto.edu) wrote:
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: I used to use a ftp site before called wuarchive.xxxx.edu.
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: Does anybody know what the rest of the domain is in its address
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: (I forgot).
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: Thanks, and happy new year!
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: a228dhal@cdf.toronto.edu
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The address is:
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wuarchive.wustl.edu
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newsgroup if you can help it.
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