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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 93 08:13:06 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #296
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Linux-Activists Digest #296, Volume #6 Fri, 8 Oct 93 08:13:06 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: FidoNet software (Edward Walker)
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My mouse is not working in Xwindows (q00023@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU)
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Re: passwd doesn't work anymore (Dennis Robinson)
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Re: Busmice (al-b@minster.york.ac.uk)
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Terminal for X11 (Mathew B Beall)
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NetBSD TCP/IP network benchmarks (Chris Maeda)
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Re: Setting active partition on second hard drive (Tom van Nes)
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Re: Help: SIOCADDRT error running /etc/route in NET-2 (Nigel Head)
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Re: Terminal for X11 (Benjamin Howard Lewis)
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Re: CFC/CFI: XSysadmin (Markus Storm)
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Re: CFC/CFI: XSysadmin (Olaf Frommann)
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Re: norton-like shell for unix? (Dragan Cvetkovic)
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Re: SLS install problem (Hr. Dr. Schiedermeier*NIS*)
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Re: sysinstall ? (Hr. Dr. Schiedermeier*NIS*)
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Re: NetBSD TCP/IP network benchmarks (Mike Stump)
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difference between SLS1.02, 1.03, and Slackware distribution (Jonathan Bayer)
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Re: CFC/CFI: XSysadmin (Brandon S. Allbery)
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From: crash@ephsa.sat.tx.us (Edward Walker)
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Subject: Re: FidoNet software
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Date: 7 Oct 93 22:42:58 GMT
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aobrodsk@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Alex Brodsky) writes:
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> >If you have ALOT of programming experience, you might try to pick up the
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> >C source code to BinkleyTerm for DOS and OS/2.. I've heard of a port to
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> >Linux of it, but it was an old, outdated version.. Course, if you do
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> >that, you'll have to find some code to compile a version6/7 nodelist as
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> >well..
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> >
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>
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> Given another month I should have a V7 nodelist compiler finished,
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> Compiable with any ansi C compiler with POSIX support libraries.
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> I will realses the source code when I feel it is relatively bug free.
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I would very much like to see this when you get it finished.. If you're
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in FidoNet, maybe an address to freq it, else perhaps somewhere to FTP
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it from.. Also, since you're working with it, you know somewhere to get
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the port of BinkleyTerm? Been looking for it, but since the closest
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thing I have to FTP over here is FTPmail, it gets a little hard to hunt
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everywhere..
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- Ed
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--
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crash@ephsa.sat.tx.us (Edward Walker)
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Rivercity Matrix -- +1 (210) 561-9815/21 -- San Antonio, Texas
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Subject: My mouse is not working in Xwindows
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From: q00023@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
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Date: 7 Oct 93 23:26:28 -0600
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Reply-To: q00023@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
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When I got into the Xwindows, my mouse didn't work. I tried many different ways to fix that. But I can't get it fixed. My mouse is a PS/2 Logitech mouse. I noticed that the linux find the present of my mouse but just can find a right device for it! Please help me out.
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Gabriel
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From: djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dennis Robinson)
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Subject: Re: passwd doesn't work anymore
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Date: 8 Oct 1993 05:28:33 GMT
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bilan@cps.msu.edu (Thomas J Bilan) writes:
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>When I'm the superuser I type:
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>passwd username
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>to change a passwd and I get a dump of the passwd file with No such file or
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>directory tacked onto the end of it.
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>I must have changed something in the last week or so because it was working
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>fine before.
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>Thanks,
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>Tom
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My passwd, won't change my passwd. Root doesn't have a passwd, and I've tried
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to reset it several times to no avail. It allows root to login without a
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passwd. What should I do?
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`
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>--
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>/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
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>$ Department of Death by Engineering ^ Surgeon General's Warning: $
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>$ Michigan State University ^ Graduate School may cause brain $
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>$ bilan@cps.msu.edu ^ damage and sporadic loss of hair $
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From: al-b@minster.york.ac.uk
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Subject: Re: Busmice
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Date: 7 Oct 1993 20:55:35 GMT
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In article <1993Oct4.033739.19770@leland.Stanford.EDU> stidolph@leland.Stanford.EDU (Wayne Stidolph) writes:
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>ah379@Freenet.carleton.ca (Jerome Lacroix) writes:
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>>
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>>In a previous article, ag794@Freenet.carleton.ca (Tony Cifelli) says:
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>>
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>>From what I encountered with my Logitech mouse on a Microsoft Inport, the
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>>Linux kernel expects the bus mouse to be configured for IRQ 5 by default.
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>>You seem to have two choices. Switch your mouse IRQ to 5, or as in my
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>>situation, modify the file busmouse.h in the /linux/kernel/char_drv
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>>directory to reflect your current IRQ and recompile the kernel. It worked
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>>for me. Good Luck!
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>
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>Note that IRQ is the cascade interrupt; when the bus mouse is set to tug
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>on the physical IRQ2, the software sees IRQ9. When you change
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>busmouse.h, don't change to IRQ2 (system will crash) change to IRQ9.
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>But leave the mouse on IRQ2. "It worked for me."
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>
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> Wayne
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Worked for me too, but didn't crash at IRQ2 - X just could not use the mouse.
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Linux kernel (0.99.9) said it found a Logitech Busmouse no matter what IRQ it was at
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(I removed the par./ser. I/O card and tried the mouse on IRQs 2-5 with kernel set to
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default 5 - Linux always "found" it, but X only worked on IRQ 5 = kernel setting).
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One slight problem for me though :-(
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Linux (and MS-DOS Logitech driver) will work with the Mouse set to IRQ 2 (the Linux
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kernel being configed for IRQ 9), but MS-Windows just freaks out completely!
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Ocasionally I do need MS-Windows <yuck!>, so I have had to put the mouse back on
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IRQ 5, which means no IRQ for /dev/lp2, which means dead slow printing compared to
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/dev/lp1...
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Wrong newsgroup, I know - But if anyone has any ideas about my MS-Win prob please mail!
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Andrew.
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P.S. Had the same problem when I configured my Adaptec 1542C for IRQ 14 (I was asking for
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trouble! :-)
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Linux and DOS had no problems, but MS-Windows 3.1 absolutely nuked my DOS partition's FAT!
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I guess any Linux kernel that included IDE support would also barf...(?)
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Have to look for those free IRQs elsewhere... How about COM4 on IRQ 14 instead of 12? :-)
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From: mathew@CS.Arizona.EDU (Mathew B Beall)
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Subject: Terminal for X11
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Date: 8 Oct 1993 00:27:17 -0700
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I just got linux with xwindows up and running, and I would like to
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get a terminal so I can call other systems. I have a 14.4 modem, so It
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would need to suppor that, and I would reallly like one with Zmodem....
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thanx!
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mathew@caslon.cs.arizona.edu
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
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From: cmaeda@cs.washington.edu (Chris Maeda)
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Subject: NetBSD TCP/IP network benchmarks
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 93 08:55:54 GMT
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In article <2CB12A8D.17397@news.service.uci.edu>
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jstern@aris.ss.uci.edu (Jeff Stern) writes:
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>
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> if someone has done a more careful port and measurement than i, and
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> also if disk speed or tcp/ip access can be measured, either.
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>
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I've done some network throughput and latency benchmarks of NetBSD 0.8.
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I don't have a box running linux, so I don't know how fast it is.
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Measurements were done using 2 33 mhz 486dx boxes with 16 MB RAM and
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3c503 ethernet cards. The machines were run in single user mode on a
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private ethernet. The systems measured are NetBSD 0.8, Mach 2.5, a
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vanilla Mach 3.0 system using the TCP/IP code in the UX unix server, a
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vanilla Mach 3.0 system using the BSDSS unix server, and a Mach 3.0
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system using the library-based TCP/IP implementation.*
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TCP throughput was measured using ttcp (anon ftp from sgi.com in
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sgi/src/ttcp) which is a 16MB one-way memory-to-memory transfer.
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system codebase kbytes/s
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NetBSD 0.8 BNR2 320
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Mach 2.5 4.3BSD 457
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Mach 3.0(UX server) 4.3BSD 415
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Mach 3.0(BSDSS server) BNR2 382
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Mach 3.0(library) BNR2 469
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UDP latency was measured using a ping-pong test: a client bounced
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packets off a server 10000 times and divided the total elapsed time by
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10000. This set of benchmarks is available through anon ftp from
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mach.cs.cmu.edu in src/net-latency-tools.tar.Z.
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UDP round trip latency (in milliseconds)
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system message size (bytes)
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1 100 512 1024 1472
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NetBSD 0.8 2.63 3.49 6.04 9.54 12.50
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Mach 2.5 1.83 2.44 5.19 8.51 11.41
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Mach 3.0(UX) 3.96 4.67 7.86 11.65 15.00
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Mach 3.0(BSDSS) 4.64 5.37 8.95 13.23 16.84
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Mach 3.0(library) 2.12 2.68 5.41 8.74 11.66
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So NetBSD's networking performance is pretty dismal compared to Mach.
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I don't know why but I imagine it has something to do with device
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drivers and low level code that does context switching and stuff
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because the actual network protocol code is very similar in all cases.
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To be fair, no one has ever tried to tune up NetBSD.
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[More details on these benchmarks and the library-based TCP/IP
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implementation are in doc/published/user.level.protocols.ps on
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mach.cs.cmu.edu.]
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Cheers,
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Chris
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From: vannes@onyx.alcatel.ch (Tom van Nes)
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Subject: Re: Setting active partition on second hard drive
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Reply-To: thomas.vannes@alcatel.ch
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 08:49:03 GMT
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In article <749874543.AA01088@gccs.fido.imp.com>,
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Peter Berger <pit@gccs.imp.com> wrote:
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>wirzeniu@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) wrote:
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>
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> > It is possible that the following might also work. I have neither
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> > experience nor documentation (at the moment):
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>
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> > c) you install LILO as the master boot record on your first
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> > hard drive and tell that to load Linux from the second hard drive
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>works!
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>bye,
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> Peter
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>
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works, but don't forget to remove the line 'table = /dev/hda'
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 08:51:51 CET
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From: Nigel Head <NHEAD@ESOC.BITNET>
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Subject: Re: Help: SIOCADDRT error running /etc/route in NET-2
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I know it seems mad but - what worked for me was to use symbolic addresses
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(with matching /etc/host entries) instead of the dot format !!!!
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No idea why ....... (perhaps a Linux guru somewhere) ...
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Nigel.
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Oh yes - 0.99.13[a]
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From: blewis@shell.portal.com (Benjamin Howard Lewis)
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Subject: Re: Terminal for X11
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 09:32:12 GMT
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mathew@CS.Arizona.EDU (Mathew B Beall) writes:
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[stuff about wanting a comm program for X deleted]
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I have had great success with a program called Seyon, which can be found in all
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the ususal places (tsx-11.mit.edu or sunsite.unc.edu for instance). It supports
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login scripts, a dialing directory, and Auto-Zmodem downloads. It has also
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handled my 14.4k modem very well.
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>mathew@caslon.cs.arizona.edu
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Good Luck!
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--
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"I'd love to go out with you, but I'm attending the opening of my
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garage door."
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Benjamin Lewis blewis@shell.portal.com
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From: storm@uni-paderborn.de (Markus Storm)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: CFC/CFI: XSysadmin
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Date: 8 Oct 1993 09:42:14 GMT
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Reply-To: storm@uni-paderborn.de
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In article <291cls$efd@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de>, will@linus (Michael Will) writes:
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|> Yes, but there is still one major problem. We have to separate the
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|> functionality from the user-interface, because we cannot use X alone.
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|> To many users do not use X because of lack of memory - these are most
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|> likely to be happy to use such a tool like we want to write.
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|> I think we have to provide a curses-interface as well - how this can
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|> be done we should discuss.
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Yes, that would also ease porting it (I already think of porting it to our SUNs,
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- as most of the functionality probably isn't Linux-specific -
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though not a single line of code has been written ;-) ).
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And usually noone owns the "commercial" OI/UIB.
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|> My thinking is like: use virtual-functions (late binding) to have the objects
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|> communicate with the user with the apropriate methods for the selected
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|> user-interface.
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The best way to do this.
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Though UIB is quite simple too use, doing subclassing needs further
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documentation than supplied on-line (at least I had some problems).
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So "C" programmers can supply functions code without working into OI.
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|> Maybe we should create a mail-channel for this topic? If enough users
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|> and developers are interested...
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Yes. There's too much functionality needed than a single programmer can supply.
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|> Cheers, Michael Will
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More Cheers, Markus Storm
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From: sm1of@tuhhco.rz.tu-harburg.de (Olaf Frommann)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: CFC/CFI: XSysadmin
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Date: 8 Oct 93 09:18:39 GMT
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In article <291fir$efd@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de>, will@linus (Michael Will) writes:
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| Mhm, now that I read just another load of follow-ups, I think it would be
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| good to create a language as someone proposed.
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| This would describe screens, and actions, acting on curses and X in the
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| same script...
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Do you know wxWindows? It does just that, is a C++ wrapper for XVIEW,
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MOTIF and MS-WINDOWS *AND* a CURSES version is promised. One source
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for several environments.
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| The advantage is clear: many users can contribute their configuration-
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| scripts and do not have to bother to much with the userinterface.
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Absolutely true.
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| Cheers, Michael Will - away for a week - sorry.
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CIAO, Olaf.
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--
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Olaf Frommann, PHONE: +49 40 7718-2942
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TU Hamburg-Harburg, FAX : +49 40 7718-2573
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Arbeitsbereich Stroemungsmechanik I e-mail: Frommann@tu-harburg.d400.de
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From: dragan@mpi-sb.mpg.de (Dragan Cvetkovic)
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Subject: Re: norton-like shell for unix?
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Date: 8 Oct 1993 10:50:15 GMT
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In article <28uviu$qvo@balsam.unca.edu>, fauerbac@canton.cs.unca.edu (John Fauerbach) writes:
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|> : Does anybody know about a shell that is comparable to the
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|> : "Norton Commander" running under MS-DOS?
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|> :
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|> : I mean a shell that makes copying, moving and purging files
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|> : more comfortable. ( No, it's _not_ for me but someone else ;-)
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|> :
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|>
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|> Me too. I looking for something that displays two different directories at
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|> the same time a that I could copy files between eachdirectory.
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|>
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|> Thanks,
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|> John Fauerbac
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How about emacs with two windows, both running dired but on different
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directoriers?
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Dragan
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--
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Dragan Cvetkovic, | To be or not to be
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dragan@mpi-sb.mpg.de (or) | is true.
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Dragan.Cvetkovic@mpi-sb.mpg.de | G. Boole
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From: schiedi@mch.sni.de (Hr. Dr. Schiedermeier*NIS*)
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Subject: Re: SLS install problem
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Date: 8 Oct 1993 08:13:36 GMT
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Bos R (rbos@cs.vu.nl) wrote:
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: I tried to install the linux filesystem by typing the
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: following line:
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: mke2fs -c /dev/hda2 90272
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: this produced the following output:
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: mke2fs 0.3, 93/04/22 for EXT2 FS 0.3a
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: Block Log Size =0
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: Fragment Log Size =0
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: 22656 inodes
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: 90272 blocks
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: 4513 blocks reserved for root
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: First data block=1 (1)
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: Block size=1024
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: 12 blocks groups
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: 8192 blocks per group
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: 8192 fragments per group
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: 1888 inodes per group
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: group = 11
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: mke2fs: Unable to find a block for the inode table
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: The last two lines appeared some time after the other
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: lines.
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: After these lines linux returned to the prompt.
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: What has gone wrong?
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For reasons I don't know you have to give a multiple of 1k = 1024
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as size argument.
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--Schiedi
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From: schiedi@mch.sni.de (Hr. Dr. Schiedermeier*NIS*)
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Subject: Re: sysinstall ?
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Date: 8 Oct 1993 08:18:58 GMT
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Jun Yang (jyang@eoc.com) wrote:
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: I am having a problem using sysinstsll. I tried to use various
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: options to install the OI package but Linux seemed to be stuck
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: with the prompt:
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: Insert disk oi1 into the floppy drive then hit enter, or q to quit
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: After my hitting Enter for 3 times, sysinstall quitted to the shell
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: prompt. What am I doing wrong? Email reply preferred.
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: Thanks a lot for your help.
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: Jun
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What options of sysinstall did you try?
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I used "sysinstall -instdev /dev/fd0 -disk" and the OI disks
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installed fine.
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--Schiedi
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
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From: mrs@cygnus.com (Mike Stump)
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Subject: Re: NetBSD TCP/IP network benchmarks
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 09:30:16 GMT
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In article <1993Oct8.085554.9345@beaver.cs.washington.edu> cmaeda@cs.washington.edu (Chris Maeda) writes:
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>
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>In article <2CB12A8D.17397@news.service.uci.edu>
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>TCP throughput was measured using ttcp (anon ftp from sgi.com in
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>sgi/src/ttcp) which is a 16MB one-way memory-to-memory transfer.
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>system codebase kbytes/s
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>NetBSD 0.8 BNR2 320
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>Mach 2.5 4.3BSD 457
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>Mach 3.0(UX server) 4.3BSD 415
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>Mach 3.0(BSDSS server) BNR2 382
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>Mach 3.0(library) BNR2 469
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386BSD 0.1.111 <-> NetBSD 0.9 985
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It would seem you are doing something wrong. (Maybe?) Between a
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386BSD 0.1 system and a NetBSD 0.9 system, we have observed
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985Kbytes/s. Contact sef@kithrup.com for details.
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From: jbayer@ispi.COM (Jonathan Bayer)
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Subject: difference between SLS1.02, 1.03, and Slackware distribution
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Date: 7 Oct 93 13:06:23 GMT
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Trans-Ameritech presents LINUX SLS/Slackware AND 386BSD and MULTYMEDIA CD-ROM.
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Hi,
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I just got the Trans-Ameritech CD-ROM which contains copies of several different
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versions of Linux. It has the SLS 1.02, SLS 1.03, and the Slackware
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distributions. I understand that the 1.03 is new and probably an alpha
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release, but what is the Slackware distribution?
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I am experienced at Unix, but new to Linux.
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Thanks.
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JB
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--
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Jonathan Bayer Intelligent Software Products, Inc.
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(908) 248-1853 37 Winthrop Rd.
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jbayer@ispi.COM Edison, NJ 08817
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.admin
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From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
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Subject: Re: CFC/CFI: XSysadmin
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 02:06:58 GMT
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In article <291fir$efd@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> will@peanuts.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de writes:
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>While xview is nice, I think OI is much more real
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>ObjectOriented - and it is more easy to provide two userinterfaces
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>using the same functionalitycode with true objects...
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XView's UIC library is an object-oriented C++ interface to XView, if you
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prefer that to the C interface.
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Always remember that XView has one major advantage over OI: it's freely
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available, so it can be used on more systems than just Linux for Intel. (Of
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course, whether the *BSD folks want anything to do with this is another issue
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entirely...) Moreover, since the source is available, you have something to
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work from other than a reference manual when developing a character-mode
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version that uses the same API and equivalent semantics.
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My own vote would probably be for Tcl/Tk, with a curses-based Tk replacement
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for character mode terminals. I think John Ousterhout commented on the
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possibility of such a Tk alternative being in a future Tk release --- but we
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would probably have to roll our own rather than waiting. Still, Tk is freely
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available source, so it's a lot easier than cloning OI's functionality would
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be.
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++Brandon
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--
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Brandon S. Allbery kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org
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"MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years
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of careful development." ---dmeggins@aix1.uottawa.ca
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