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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 93 16:13:11 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #298
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Linux-Activists Digest #298, Volume #6 Fri, 8 Oct 93 16:13:11 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: TokenRing card support? -- NO (Alan Cox)
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Re: Novell under Linux (Alan Cox)
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Re: Good serial communication package wanted. (Tom Reynolds)
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WANTED: BBS for Linux (Matthew S. Bailey)
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Re: NetBSD TCP/IP network benchmarks (Jaye Mathisen)
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Re: WANTED: BBS for Linux (Topic-Administrator for tcl (Bernd Kratz))
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Which distribution? SLS/Slackware/mcc (James Bonfield)
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? mounting a SuperStorED DOS drive in Linux ? (Mario Nascimento)
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LaTeX guru? (probstmj@cnsvax.uwec.edu)
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Re: Novell under Linux (Miquel van Smoorenburg,,,)
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Re: CFC/CFI: XSysadmin (Nan Zou)
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Re: How to load a Coherent cpio into Linux? (Louis J. Giliberto)
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XS3 for 928 (ELSA WINNER) (Gerd Grasshoff)
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Re: NetBSD TCP/IP network benchmarks (Chris Maeda)
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Re: NetBSD TCP/IP network benchmarks (Chris Maeda)
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Re: help: linux & wangtek en5099-24 tape (Kelly Murray)
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Re: norton-like shell for unix? (Tadeusz Bak)
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Re: what happened to Debian (Ian A Murdock)
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Re: Good serial communication package wanted. (Danny ter Haar)
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From: iiitac@swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: TokenRing card support? -- NO
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 13:56:21 GMT
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In article <29203e$758@nic.cerf.net> mcruse@nic.cerf.net (Mike Cruse) writes:
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>Donald J. Becker (becker@super.org) wrote:
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>: In article <93278.133414ZIYA@trmetu.bitnet>,
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>: Ziya Karakaya <ZIYA@TRMETU.BITNET> wrote:
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>: >Has any body used IBM TokenRing card with Linux?
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>: >If so I would like to hear about.
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>
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>: No, there is no token ring support in Linux. To support token ring requires
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>: more than only a writing a device driver, it also requires writing the source
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>: routing routines for token ring. Given that token ring is expensive, not
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It will require a device driver being written, routing code being written,
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changes to the bottom socket layer to support 802.2 and 802.2 based TCP/IP.
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Don't expect anything soon
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Alan
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From: iiitac@swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Novell under Linux
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 14:02:48 GMT
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In article <1993Oct7.174944.13044@super.org> becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker) writes:
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>In article <1993Oct7.134351.14366@kth.se>,
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>Mattias Olsson <mattias@shogun> wrote:
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>>I woder if it is possible to make my Linux machine work as an Novell server
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>>and an Unix server at the same time.
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>>Is it possible and IF, how do i do it , what programs do I need ?
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>>If it is not possible ,could I make my Linux machine access an Novell server ?
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>No, it's not possible. Novell treats the details of their protocols as a
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>trade secret.
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The novell protocols are available from novell for various amounts. IPX is
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freely documented. SPX is about $1000 but I'm told Xerox SPP is identical
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_PLEASE_ has anyone got any freely distributable Xerox SPP code/documentation.
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The novell server spec costs you $15000 + royalties providing you only
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want to write a client, or $30000 + royalties otherwise. Needless to say the
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final output has to be binary only and subject to a novell license. Reading
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their license rules by my interpretation its also impossible for us to do
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because you would seem to have to bar disassembly of your final result, which
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is not allowed in the EEC.
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Bits of NCP are known, and I hope eventually enough will be known to write
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limited NCP support into Linux, for the moment I'm poking around at IPX,
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tho this will have to wait until the new network code is finished.
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Alan
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iiitac@pyr.swan.ac.uk
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From: treynold@vierzk.bates.scarolina.edu (Tom Reynolds)
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Subject: Re: Good serial communication package wanted.
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Date: 8 Oct 1993 15:01:30 GMT
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In article <1993Oct8.142554.2573@donau.et.tudelft.nl>,
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Antoon Frehe <antoon@warga.et.tudelft.nl> wrote:
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>Hi all,
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>
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>Is there a good serial communication package that understands
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>[A-z]modem protocol. I'm used to TELIX under DOS to get stuff down
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>via a phone line. I tried the installed KERMIT, but like under
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>DOS, it is so terribly slow ...
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>
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Try using kermit and then using rz/sz for file transfers. It really flies,
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just like Telix does.
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To do this, just send the file via zmodem on the remote machine, then
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escape to the kermit prompt, and say
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!rz <>/dev/cua?
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--
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Thanx!
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Tom Reynolds
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treynold@hp800.lasalle.edu
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treynold@vierzk.bates.scarolina.edu
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 01:21:59 EDT
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From: Matthew S. Bailey <32BDZWC@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
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Subject: WANTED: BBS for Linux
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I am Looking for a good BBS package for linux if you know any or where
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I should look please let me know please include your full e-mail
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address in you reply's.
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Thanks for you time Matthew S. Bailey
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Mbailey@cps201.cps.cmich.edu
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From: osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
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Subject: Re: NetBSD TCP/IP network benchmarks
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Date: 8 Oct 1993 16:06:57 GMT
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In article <1993Oct8.085554.9345@beaver.cs.washington.edu>,
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Chris Maeda <cmaeda@cs.washington.edu> wrote:
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>
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>system codebase kbytes/s
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>NetBSD 0.8 BNR2 320
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Well, rampant speculation might place the blame on your cards, or perhaps
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an outdated driver, I know David has spent a lot of time on some of
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the network drivers, better performance is likely.
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I regularly get 400+k/sec out of my cheapo DEC DEPCA card on a 386-20sx
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with FreeBSD, and I don't think there are enough significant differences
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between NetBSD 0.8 and FreeBSD for it to be attributable to the OS.
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--
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Jaye Mathisen, COE Systems Manager (406) 994-4780
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410 Roberts Hall,Dept. of Computer Science
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Montana State University,Bozeman MT 59717 osyjm@cs.montana.edu
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From: tam-tcl@hrz-ws26.hrz.uni-kassel.de (Topic-Administrator for tcl (Bernd Kratz))
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Subject: Re: WANTED: BBS for Linux
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 16:11:50 GMT
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I'm interested an GOOD BBS package for linux too.
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I'm currently using the XBBS-package. It's not to bad, but
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improvable.
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Please mail me to
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ben@ws-01.iest.kassel.de
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From: rince@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (James Bonfield)
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Subject: Which distribution? SLS/Slackware/mcc
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 16:23:14 GMT
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Hello,
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Can anyone tell me what the difference is between all the Linux
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distributions. Software versions don't bother me much - it's always possible
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to obtain new versions and recompile (correct?). However, as an experienced
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UNIX chap I need to know what is actually different - does /etc change? Do
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some use the sys V rc directory scheme and others BSD? Etc etc etc.
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Obviously, the main part of linux is the kernel - this doesn't change much
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other than versions I presume between the distribution. The same goes for
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version of X, gcc, emacs, etc. However, where do the other things come from -
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GNU binutils and fileutils ??? What about stuff in dev, etc, lib, usr/share,
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sbin etc?
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Anyone feel like shedding any light on the situation?
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Cheers,
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James
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From: mario@seas.smu.edu (Mario Nascimento)
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Subject: ? mounting a SuperStorED DOS drive in Linux ?
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 16:16:13 GMT
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Hello there,
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Does anybody has any experience in mounting from within Linux a DOS
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hard drive that is compressed with SuperStor (or the like) ?
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I'm about to buy a biggger HD to install small but compressed DOS par-
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tition, my guess is that it wouldn't work as SuperStor stays in bet-
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ween the HD and the DOS when it is booted up, and if Linux is booted
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up instead then how in the hell would the compress/decompress work ?
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Am I missing something ? Thanks for any hint/clue/answer/whatever ...
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Mario.
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--
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+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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| +------------------+ E-mail: mario@seas.smu.edu |
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| | MARIO Nascimento | Postal Mail: SMU Box 752165 |
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| +------------------+ Dallas, TX 75275-2165 USA |
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+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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From: probstmj@cnsvax.uwec.edu
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Subject: LaTeX guru?
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Date: 8 Oct 93 11:49:57 -0600
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I am trying to get my system converted over to Linux for everything but music
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processing. I found that I can put a very minimal DOS partition with Windoze
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and Finale music composition up in about 30 compressed megs. I have no need to
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acces this from Linux.
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I've tried the switch before, but haven't had much luck because of the fact
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that I have had a very hard time getting LaTeX working properly. Lots of the
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documentation for LaTeX seems to be in TeX, which doesn't help me much. THe
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main problems I've had are getting it to work on a data file and getting the lp
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daemon to work with my Epson Actionlaser II, a HP IIP semi-compatible. (Works
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fine with HP drivers in the 'doze!) I can't pipe the output of a DVI-to-IIP
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conversion to spool.
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So, if there's anyone out ther ewho's a LaTeX setup guru, perhaps send me your
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Email address so I can ask my many upcoming questions outside of this group, I
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don't want to waste more bandwidth than I already have. Once I can get it set
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up and print out a simple TeX formatted file I'll be able to figure out how to
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use TeX itself. I'm converting to Linux today . . . this time there's nothing
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that will stop me from switching permanently.
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From: miquels@caution.cistron.nl.mugnet.org (Miquel van Smoorenburg,,,)
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Subject: Re: Novell under Linux
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 93 10:53:58
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In article <1993Oct7.174944.13044@super.org> becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker) writes:
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>In article <1993Oct7.134351.14366@kth.se>,
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>Mattias Olsson <mattias@shogun> wrote:
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>>I woder if it is possible to make my Linux machine work as an Novell server
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>>and an Unix server at the same time.
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>>Is it possible and IF, how do i do it , what programs do I need ?
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>>If it is not possible ,could I make my Linux machine access an Novell server ?
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>
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>No, it's not possible. Novell treats the details of their protocols as a
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>trade secret.
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>--
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>Donald Becker becker@super.org
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But it _is_ possible to set up a dedicated PC running both novell and
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the PD SOSS server and let it gateway from NFS to novell. This way it
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is possible to mount the Novell drives on the Unix (Linux) client.
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SOSS is a PD (perhaps with some restrictions, but freely available) NFS
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server for DOS. It includes the PC/IP TCP/IP implementation and runs on
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a packet driver. I have run both a Novell client (with PDIPX, a Packet
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Driver IPX) and this SOSS server together successfully.
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Look for 'SOSS' with archie.
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Mike.
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--
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| Miquel van Smoorenburg, <miquels@cistron.nl.mugnet.org> |
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| Chips - the dope of the nineties. You may carry them with you, |
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| but they are more expensive per kilo than cocaine. |
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From: nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Nan Zou)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
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Subject: Re: CFC/CFI: XSysadmin
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Date: 8 Oct 1993 01:48:59 -0500
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will@oliver (Michael Will) writes:
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>CFC / CFI Call for Code / Call for Ideas :-)
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>Xsysadmin - this is what I want to write, only I think there already is
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>a lot of code outside?
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I have been thinking about this for a while too. I think it's a very
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good idea. In fact, when I learn a little more about C and X11
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programming and when I have some free time I even plan to take it up
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myself. However, the scope of my program idea is a lot more narrower:
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it only deals with user maintainance (adding/deleting). Right now I use
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the add_user/delete_user program with their long and hard-to-remember
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command lines. A X11 interface based on either OI/OB or Tcl/Tk would be
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much more intuitive. It doesn't even have to be too complicated, just
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gather up the parameters and pass them to add_user/delete_user... Like
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another poster said, a curses/ncurses based interface should also be
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available for those not running X.
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>Please contact me if you are working on something similar, have done something
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>alike or have something stuffed away which did not work to well...
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>I would like to make a LinuxConfigurationtool for
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> - usermaintainement (incl. shadow-support)
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> - uucp
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> - smail
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> - cnews / tin
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> - internet
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> - cron
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> - printers
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>I do not know whether it is a good idea to put this all into one program,
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>especially since many people should contribute to this program - I cannot
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>do it all alone.
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I think it's quite ambitious for you to tackle all aspects of
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system configuration. Perhaps you should coordinate your efforts with
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the maintainers of these packages?
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-- Nan
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.coherent
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From: ljg@rci.chi.il.us (Louis J. Giliberto)
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Subject: Re: How to load a Coherent cpio into Linux?
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 04:49:28 GMT
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Patrick Draper (pdrap@ctp.com) wrote:
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: The trouble is that I can't load it into Linux. There's a difference
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: between Coherent's cpio and others because I can backup and restore
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: a diskette that I made only with Linux in the Linux cpio format.
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: I purposefully used cpio to back up my stuff because the manual said
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: that it's more portable than tar, however, I've never had trouble with
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: tar before.
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When you backed up with cpio, hopefully you backed up with a "c"
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switch -- like cpio -ocv >/dev/floppy
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If you didn't, that may be the cause of your problems. Other than that,
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the only other thing I can think of is a corrupt disk and/or a corrupt
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backup.
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-Louis
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--
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Louis J. Giliberto, Jr. -- "I never met a hacker I didn't like"
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=====================================================================
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DarkTower Software..........magus@drktowr.chi.il.us
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Ripco Communication, Inc....ljg@rci.chi.il.us
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=====================================================================
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Also: magus@gagme.chi.il.us, lgilibe@mica.meddean.luc.edu
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=====================================================================
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From: grasshof@rzdspc1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Gerd Grasshoff)
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Subject: XS3 for 928 (ELSA WINNER)
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Date: 8 Oct 93 17:35:20 GMT
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My ELSA WINNER 1000 card (s3 chip 928) doesn't work. I am sure that Xconfig is
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correct (It works with another card). The standard Xs3 server, latest edition,
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doesn't work with it. Since patches were recommended for the 928 chip, which are
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supposed to work in XS3-928, I installed that. Result: frozen black screen. Hard
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reset required.
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I use Xfree86 1.3. Who can help?
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Gerd Grasshoff
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Uni Hamburg
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
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From: cmaeda@cs.washington.edu (Chris Maeda)
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Subject: Re: NetBSD TCP/IP network benchmarks
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 93 18:22:10 GMT
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In article <CEKnqv.CM7@kithrup.com> mrs@cygnus.com (Mike Stump) writes:
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>In article <1993Oct8.085554.9345@beaver.cs.washington.edu> cmaeda@cs.washington.edu (Chris Maeda) writes:
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>>
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>>In article <2CB12A8D.17397@news.service.uci.edu>
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>>TCP throughput was measured using ttcp (anon ftp from sgi.com in
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>>sgi/src/ttcp) which is a 16MB one-way memory-to-memory transfer.
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>>
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>>system codebase kbytes/s
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>>
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>>NetBSD 0.8 BNR2 320
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>>Mach 2.5 4.3BSD 457
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>>Mach 3.0(UX server) 4.3BSD 415
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>>Mach 3.0(BSDSS server) BNR2 382
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>>Mach 3.0(library) BNR2 469
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>386BSD 0.1.111 <-> NetBSD 0.9 985
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>It would seem you are doing something wrong. (Maybe?) Between a
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>386BSD 0.1 system and a NetBSD 0.9 system, we have observed
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>985Kbytes/s. Contact sef@kithrup.com for details.
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I did and he says he got these numbers using 16bit wd8013 cards.
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I got my numbers using 8bit 3c503 cards.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
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From: cmaeda@cs.washington.edu (Chris Maeda)
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Subject: Re: NetBSD TCP/IP network benchmarks
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 93 18:30:48 GMT
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In article <294371$aga@pdq.coe.montana.edu> osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen) writes:
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>In article <1993Oct8.085554.9345@beaver.cs.washington.edu>,
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>Chris Maeda <cmaeda@cs.washington.edu> wrote:
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>>
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>>system codebase kbytes/s
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>>NetBSD 0.8 BNR2 320
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>
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>Well, rampant speculation might place the blame on your cards, or perhaps
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>an outdated driver, I know David has spent a lot of time on some of
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>the network drivers, better performance is likely.
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The cards are probably responsible for the slow (300-400 kbyte/s)
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performance in general but they definitely have nothing to do with the
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difference between the various OS's. All my experiments were run on
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the same two boxes; I booted off a different partition for each OS.
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>I regularly get 400+k/sec out of my cheapo DEC DEPCA card on a 386-20sx
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>with FreeBSD, and I don't think there are enough significant differences
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>between NetBSD 0.8 and FreeBSD for it to be attributable to the OS.
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Is this card 8bit or 16 bit?
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From: kem@prl.ufl.edu (Kelly Murray)
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Subject: Re: help: linux & wangtek en5099-24 tape
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Date: 8 Oct 1993 19:06:37 GMT
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In article <750019614.AA06847@csource.oz.au>, cas@csource.oz.au (Craig Sanders) writes:
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|> i've installed linux into a 100mb partition on my hard disk for testing,
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|> experimenting & configuring - when i'm happy with the way it works then it gets
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|> the whole disk to itself...
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|>
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|> details:
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|> wangtek en5099-24 60MB tape drive
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|> Wangtek PC-36 controller card (IRQ:5, DMA:1, PORT:300)
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|> SLS 1.03 (series a,b,c disks only)
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|>
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|> i can't get tar or mt to access the tape drive. i've recompiled the kernel to
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|> make sure that the qic-02 support is installed, and got rid of some of the
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|> stuff i didn't need (like SCSI drivers, -m486 flag etc). then i moved the old
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|> /zImage to /old.zImage and copied the newly compiled zImage to /
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|>
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|> i don't even see any message which could be the qic02 driver being loaded at
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|> boot time.
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|>
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I have this tape drive working on one of my machines (SLS 1.01).
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If you don't get any messages at boot time about the tape drive,
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then the kernel you're booting is not configured with the qic02 device driver.
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It sounds like you're still booting the old kernel. You need to
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use lilo to install it -- just creating a new /zImage won't do.
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You should create a new kernel on a floppy disk, and boot off the floppy
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first to test things out -- don't clobber your working kernel
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on your hard-drive until your sure it's working from the floppy.
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Look at the Makefile in /usr/src/linux.
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Hope this helps,
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Kelly
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From: gcbak@cyf-kr.edu.pl (Tadeusz Bak )
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Subject: Re: norton-like shell for unix?
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 19:27:18 GMT
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In <CEHtM3.I8G@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> rabe@mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de (Matthias Rabe) writes:
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>In article <30.470@tec-box.zer.de>,
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>Hajo Simons <H.SIMONS@TEC-BOX.zer.de> wrote:
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>>Does anybody know about a shell that is comparable to the
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>>"Norton Commander" running under MS-DOS?
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>>
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>>I mean a shell that makes copying, moving and purging files
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>>more comfortable. ( No, it's _not_ for me but someone else ;-)
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>Please reply to this group, too.
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I'm a happy user of "Allegro". This programm looks and works like "Norton
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Commander" (one or two windows, status bar at the bottom, norton-like
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function keys, built-in editor, etc.). It is a commercial product, ask
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the author - Jaroslaw Strzalkowski ( js@uci.agh.edu.pl ) for more information.
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Tadeusz Bak
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From: imurdock@shell.portal.com (Ian A Murdock)
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Subject: Re: what happened to Debian
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 19:28:37 GMT
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Cobalt Stargazer (cam@adied.oz.au) wrote:
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: subject says it all - what is the current status of it?
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It is currently in ALPHA. The second ALPHA version should be released within
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the next few days (after we resolve a few filesystem-related issues).
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: will we ever see it?
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You're more than welcome to join in the effort. Debian has changed quite a bit
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since I first announced its existence in August; it has turned into a fairly
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large group effort, as opposed to the "traditional" development stategy of
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Linux distributions (development by one individual or small group).
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If you want to become a part of the pre-release development or become an ALPHA/
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BETA tester, then join the Debian channel of the linux-activists mailing list.
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If you don't know how to do that, then 'finger imurdock@sage.cc.purdue.edu' for
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instructions.
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--
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Ian
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Ian Murdock <imurdock@shell.portal.com> | For the latest Debian Linux
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From: danny@caution.cistron.nl.mugnet.org (Danny ter Haar)
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Subject: Re: Good serial communication package wanted.
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 93 18:23:51
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In article <1993Oct8.142554.2573@donau.et.tudelft.nl> antoon@warga.et.tudelft.nl (Antoon Frehe) writes:
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>Hi all,
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>
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>Is there a good serial communication package that understands
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>[A-z]modem protocol. I'm used to TELIX under DOS to get stuff down
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>via a phone line. I tried the installed KERMIT, but like under
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>DOS, it is so terribly slow ...
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>
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Sure, try minicom
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current releases version is mc14g
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available on sunsite and tsx-11
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We are currently developping version 1.5a if you can't wait
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get it from our public linux machine in +31-1720-42580
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in /pub/linux/communication/mc1.5a.tar.gz
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This version includes local echo and some bug fixes ...
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>Thx Toon.
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_____
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Danny
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--
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_______________________________________________________________________
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Danny ter Haar <dannyth@hacktic.nl> or <danny@cistron.nl.mugnet.org>
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PHILIPS DCC: combining the disadvantages of cd-rom's and tapes
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