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From: Digestifier <Linux-Admin-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 94 09:13:30 EDT
Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #141
Linux-Admin Digest #141, Volume #2 Tue, 4 Oct 94 09:13:30 EDT
Contents:
Wanted: Used or great deals on Routers (Tony Schwartz)
Re: tar help (Viktor T. Toth)
Re: Spreadsheet for Linux wanted (Randy Hootman)
SCSI Scanner usage within LINUX? (Bernd Lehahn)
Xwin Mail/news readers? (John Dee)
Re: Lynx under Linux (Sam Oscar Lantinga)
Re: Help INN on my Linux box! (Nathan Stratton)
linux C++ class browser?? (Adrian Mancini)
Re: Buslogic and > 1.1.46 kernels Be CAREFUL
Re: floppy problems on Linux 1.1.51 (Shaune Beattie)
Re: XFree86-3.1 - Whoopee! (Carlos Dominguez)
inetd & rpc.portmap (was Re: inetd seems to lock-up) (Bradley M. Kuhn)
inetd: in.nnrpd takes up too much CPU...help please? (Bradley M. Kuhn)
Re: Pentiums (Shaune Beattie)
Installing Manpages (Paul E Rubin)
Re: RPC Problems (xmeter too!) (Dustin Mollo)
Re: Problem with floppy-umount (AlexR2D42)
Re: /etc/issue (AlexR2D42)
Re: How to let normal users run SVGALIB programs (SOLN) (Nick Hilliard)
Re: Special Sale On QNX! (Michael Stroucken)
Upgrading (updating) kernel? (00:Jason Multari)
Re: Recommendation: Partitioning Linux (Spencer PriceNash)
Re: PPP vs SLIP? (John Phillips)
format problem and rawrite also (Laurent Chavey)
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From: tony@teleport.com (Tony Schwartz)
Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.sys.cisco,misc.forsale.computers.workstations,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: Wanted: Used or great deals on Routers
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 17:44:55
I am seeking a hot deal on a router that can handle BGP4. I am assuming
something like a Cisco 2501.
I have cash in hand and am ready to buy. Please email any opportunities or
suggestions.
Tony Schwartz
Portland, OR
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From: vttoth@vttoth.com (Viktor T. Toth)
Subject: Re: tar help
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 00:21:53
In article <Cx2Byv.E0D@mercury.wright.edu> s010dls@alpha.wright.edu () writes:
>I'm having trouble with tar. When I try to us it, all I get is:
>
>tar: can't open /dev/rmt0 : No such device or address
>
>Why does it say this? I looked for /dev/rmt0 and it's there.
>Thanks.
Do you actually have a tape device on your system? Or are you trying to
(un)tar a disk file?
Just because the entry /dev/rmt0 exists, that doesn't mean that you actually
have a real device behind it.
Viktor
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From: rph@netcom.com (Randy Hootman)
Subject: Re: Spreadsheet for Linux wanted
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 17:49:46 GMT
There is xspread for X and sc for tty. On most distributions.
Randy
: Hi all,
: I'm looking for a freeware spreadsheet which works with linux (and preferably
: can also be made to work on a HP 720)
: Does anyone know what software is available?
: Any hint would be good.
: Thanks a lot
: Greetings Dolf Smits
: --
: Smits@interduct.tudelft.nl D.F. Smits
: Interduct
: Delft University Clean Technology Institute
: Rotterdamseweg 145
: 2628 AL DELFT tel. (+31) 15 78 72 39
: The Netherlands fax. (+31) 15 78 66 82
: Linux, The choice of a GNU generation
: (Anonymous)
--
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
"In recognizing the humanity of our fellow beings,
we pay ourselves the highest tribute." - Thurgood Marshall
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Randy Hootman Randysoft Software (408) 229-0119
------------------------------
From: bernd@bjshome.oche.de (Bernd Lehahn)
Subject: SCSI Scanner usage within LINUX?
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 16:46:59 +0100
Reply-To: bernd@ego.oche.de
Hi,
what does it need to use a HP II cx SCSI scanner from Linux?
If I would be able to use this thingy from Linux, I wont had to switch to
Windows all the time.
Thanks for any hints!
=========== Bernd Lehahn, Ebertstr.30, 52134 Herzogenrath, Germany =============
- Tel:49-2407-59473, Fax:49-2407-8226, ADSP:bernd@egosoft.adsp.sub.org -
- use/internet: bernd@ego.oche.de (...speaking just for myself) -
- Wer selbst nichts erreicht hat, verweist oft auf die Erfolge seines "Volkes" -
------------------------------
From: jd@ohbabe.stat.com (John Dee)
Subject: Xwin Mail/news readers?
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 03:46:18 GMT
[ Article crossposted from comp.os.linux.help ]
[ Author was John Dee (jd@ohbabe.stat.com) ]
[ Posted on Sat, 1 Oct 1994 03:45:47 GMT ]
Anyone have any suggestions on mail readers or news readers for Xwindows
under Linux? E-mail appreciated.
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From: slouken@cs.ucdavis.edu (Sam Oscar Lantinga)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Lynx under Linux
Date: 3 Oct 1994 20:35:56 GMT
Mubashir Cheema (cheema@earth.sparco.com) wrote:
: I have noticed that when I run Lynx under Linux all available
: options get highlighted instead of the ones I move my
: cursor to.
It's a problem with the version of ncurses that lynx
is compiled with. I haven't figured out exactly what to do, because
ncurses 1.8.5 breaks one curses application while ncurses 1.8.1 breaks
another.
But.. there is a version of lynx statically compiled to
work properly available from dewdrop.water.ca.gov in /pub/Linux/Network
We desperately need the termcap, terminfo, and ncurses
coordinated to be completely functional for all programs!
Ignorantly,
-Sam Lantinga (slouken@cs.ucdavis.edu)
------------------------------
From: nstn@netcom.com (Nathan Stratton)
Subject: Re: Help INN on my Linux box!
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 16:59:11 GMT
I used the makehistory script it had no effic. How can I fix this problem?
In article <36naf8$ekf@Venus.mcs.com> munster@MCS.COM (Jerry Ablan) writes:
>On Sat, 1 Oct 1994 19:34:13 GMT, Nathan Stratton spake thusly:
>: I am trying to set up my news on my linux box I had it working ok, but
>: now is has stoped working. If I look in /usr/adm/syslog I can see this error:
>
>: Oct 1 14:26:55 NovaNet innd: /usr/lib/news/history cant dbminit ME No
>: such file or directory
>
>: Can anyone tell me how to fix this problem, my news is backing up fast.
>: If you can help please send me mail as soon as possible.
>: --
>: Nathan Stratton CEO, NovaNet, Inc. On-Line Communication Services.
>
>Sure looks like your history file got kilt. Just re-build it with the
>mkhistory script.
>
>-- Jerry
--
Nathan Stratton CEO, NovaNet, Inc. On-Line Communication Services.
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From: amancini@bmerh9f7.bnr.ca (Adrian Mancini)
Subject: linux C++ class browser??
Date: 4 Oct 1994 00:06:14 GMT
Hello,
Anyone be so kind as to tell where I can get
a C++ class browser & a solid class hierarchy that
works under linux/XFree386???????
Thanx
--
==================================================
- Adrian Mancini ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
==================================================
- The worst fear is fear of a dream. ~~~~~~~~~~~~
==================================================
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From: manolo@fobos.ulpgc.es ()
Subject: Re: Buslogic and > 1.1.46 kernels Be CAREFUL
Date: 3 Oct 1994 10:11:42 GMT
John Spade (spade@rocko.lab.csuchico.edu) wrote:
: Post 1.1.46 kernels seem to override the > 1GB hard drive switch.
: If I run fdisk with 1.1.38 and install linux, it won't run after
: a few boots of 1.1.51. And vice versa. After messing up my linux
: boxes' hard drives several times, I traced it down to the changes
: around the 1.1.46 kernel.
: The partition tables seem to be incompatible. I'm out of my
: league as far as the specifics, but I can say that it changes the
: cyl/hd/sec specifications. So don't casually upgrade... I had to
: reformat 2 systems...
: The were good changes though, so I'm not complaining, just
: warning people.
: --
: spade@rocko.lab.csuchico.edu "Quality, Service, Price...
: spade@ecst.csuchico.edu Pick any two..."
I had the SAME problem, it comes from
/usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/buslogic.c
The translation mode is considered ENABLED by DEFAULT for >1Gb disks ?!!
If you are **NOT** using translation mode (a.k.a. DOS support for
>1Gb), that scews up the whole disk partition.
Solution:
Edit /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/buslogic.c, around line 960
inside function 'get_translation()' change
return BIOS_TRANSLATION_BIG;
with
return BIOS_TRANSLATION_DEFAULT;
That will do.
Manuel J. Galan
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From: sdgb1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Shaune Beattie)
Subject: Re: floppy problems on Linux 1.1.51
Date: 4 Oct 1994 01:37:17 GMT
Kees Lemmens (lemmens@dutind5.twi.tudelft.nl) wrote:
: Hi,
: Recently installed Linux 1.1.51. However, when I mount a DOS floppy
: and try to unmount it when finished, in about 50 % of the cases the
: unmount command crashes with a Segmentation Fault and exits.
: This leaves an /etc/mtab~ hanging around and corrupts the filesystem
: information:
: 'df' then yields an entry for /fd0 (my floppydrive) with the statistics
: of my Linux partition.
: A second mount and unmount (after removing the /etc/mtab~) often fixes
: the problem.
: Anyone who experienced the same or anyone who knows how to avoid this ?
Same for me..
Though not 50%
Basically the *first* time you try to umount it produces a segmentation
fault in _release_floppy. after that it works fine :-/ more a nuisance
than anything else.
Shaune
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From: carlos@interport.net (Carlos Dominguez)
Subject: Re: XFree86-3.1 - Whoopee!
Date: 3 Oct 1994 21:38:21 -0400
Michael_Nelson (nelson@seahunt.imat.com) wrote:
: I think I'll wait awhile before attempting 3.1 again... :-(
I think I'll await for it to become part of a future slackware
distribution .
I've worked too hard to get X up and running, and to futz with fvwm and
its neat-o window sound event manager, to start from scratch all over again.
--
__ __ __ | .__. __. :::: Carlos Dominguez - proprietor - sysadmin
| __| | | | | |__ :::: carlos@basselope.com
|__ |__| | | |__| .__| :::: Basselope *nix systems
--------------------------- Internet services consulting is our forte
------------------------------
From: bkuhn@hope.loyola.edu (Bradley M. Kuhn)
Subject: inetd & rpc.portmap (was Re: inetd seems to lock-up)
Date: 4 Oct 1994 00:52:16 GMT
In article <1994Oct1.184213.289@acad.ursinus.edu>,
Steve Kneizys <STEVO@acad.ursinus.edu> wrote:
>olav woelfelschneider (wosch@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de) wrote:
>: While trying to connect a linux box to the internet i got a strange
>: behaviour. The machine first accepts telnet or any other inetd
>: initiated connection, while a few minutes later doing the same thing
>: will hang. Thus, trying to telnet into the box yields the
>: connected to message, but there is no prompt.
>: This happens with every connection which is handled by inetd,
>: like ftp, finger, etc...
>
>Another case of it! I have been waiting for several weeks now for an
>answer on this one, but nobody has come up with anything. At first
>I thought it was something I did wrong, but it does seem to be a
>problem with the code. Where exactly, other than with inetd, I do not know.
>
>I just put one of my boxes to 1.0.8 to clear this up, and the
>Pentium EISA/PCI with 2 Gig SCSI box is sitting in a corner waiting
>for this fix. I have seen this bug as far back as 1.1.48, but I
>cannot determine how far back it goes ... would try to find out if
>a developer asked.
>
>Others have emailed me about it too, no solutions ... be sure
>to post if you find one!
>
Alright. I have it TOO. I am using 1.0.9 from Slackware. Does 1.0.8 solve
the problem (or not have it, rather)? To think one version before would save
me these headaches!
I also have another problem. inetd on a machine that has drives nfs mounted
from it, inetd seems to spawn extra rpc.portmaps, one after another until the
original one is killed. is this a related problem, or something else?
--
-- Bradley M. Kuhn
EMAIL: bkuhn@cs.loyola.edu, bkuhn@loyola.edu, bkuhn@rhlab.com
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From: bkuhn@hope.loyola.edu (Bradley M. Kuhn)
Subject: inetd: in.nnrpd takes up too much CPU...help please?
Date: 4 Oct 1994 00:57:07 GMT
For some reason, after many people have read news, the in.nnrpd process (i
assumed spawed by inetd) hangs and eats up lots of CPU time. I assume that it
is supposed to die when the connections close and not start again until
another connection is made to port 119. However, I assume that it is not
dying correctly, and thus keeps looking for a connection thus eating up CPU
time. Anyone else concur/disagree/shed light on situation?
Does this problem have anything to do with the other bizzarre problems people
are talking about in inetd in kernel versions > 1.0.8?
Thank you for your help.
Please respond via email if possible; will post summary.
--
-- Bradley M. Kuhn
EMAIL: bkuhn@cs.loyola.edu, bkuhn@loyola.edu, bkuhn@rhlab.com
------------------------------
From: sdgb1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Shaune Beattie)
Subject: Re: Pentiums
Date: 4 Oct 1994 01:45:43 GMT
Frank B. Brokken (frank@icce.rug.nl) wrote:
: This is just a small question, for which I can't find the answer right away:
: Is anybody out there running Linux on a Pentium ? If so, have
: any problems in installing and getting it to work been encountered ?
: Please react either directly to me (frank@icce.rug.nl) or to this newsgroup.
Works fine for me aswell..
Just wish an official pentium version of gcc would be made... as it is I
would guess the 486-100 to be faster? Anyone confirm/deny this?
Tried the unofficial pentium gcc, but it didn't work for me..
mis-compiled :(
Shaune
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From: prubin@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu (Paul E Rubin)
Subject: Installing Manpages
Date: 3 Oct 1994 16:34:05 GMT
Hi. I've recently got a hold of some manpages for Xt functions to program
X-windows. However, I'm having a hard time installing therm..
I've edit MANPATH a few times, but the change never takes place.
say the manpages are in the directory ~john/manpages. I've edit MANPATH as
setenv MANPATH /home/john/manpages ${MANPATH} in my .cshrc file. I've tryed
loging out and rebooting the machine, but somehow the new path doesn't get
updated.
anyone have any idea why??
I have slackware 1.1.8
thanks
Paul
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From: dustin@nermal.santarosa.edu (Dustin Mollo)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: RPC Problems (xmeter too!)
Date: 4 Oct 1994 01:47:34 GMT
Charles W. Binko (cwb@mail.cis.ufl.edu) wrote:
: What is wrong? I have rstatd running, do I need other rpc daemons as
: well? The xmeter man page says it gets its info from rstat...doesn't mention any
: others.
Just out of curiosity, are all the other machines that you are monitoring
that work, are they Linux boxes?? I bet they aren't... The version of
rstatd that we run here at my college (on Linux), don't support network
infomation. I haven't not heard of one that does.. On Linux that is.. Our
HP9000 does however... BTW, if there IS a rstatd that gives net traffic
under Linux, I would be interested in knowing where I can get it...
Thanks and Good Luck!
-Dustin
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From: yuriev@astro.ocis.temple.edu (AlexR2D42)
Subject: Re: Problem with floppy-umount
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 00:37:40 GMT
HIGGINS@DELBOX.ZER.DE wrote:
: Frank Westheider Linux Support Group Paderborn
: higgins@uni-paderborn.de higgins@delbox.zer
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: Hi Folks !
: What about the kernel-bug with floppy umount ??
: Any suggestions ?
Which bug?
Best wishes,
Alex
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From: yuriev@astro.ocis.temple.edu (AlexR2D42)
Subject: Re: /etc/issue
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 00:41:10 GMT
CVL staff member Nate Sammons (nate@matisse.VIS.ColoState.Edu) wrote:
: I see there's and /etc/issue file in linux, but it doesn't seem to
: do what /etc/issue is supposed to do (get splatted up on screen
: BEFORE the login prompt on (at least) remote connections)
If I recall correctly, it is supposed to be /etc/issue.net for network
connection.
Best wishes,
Alex
------------------------------
From: nick@flapjack.ieunet.ie (Nick Hilliard)
Subject: Re: How to let normal users run SVGALIB programs (SOLN)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 18:21:32 GMT
Andrew Berkley (ajb@wonder.resnet.cornell.edu) wrote:
: Obviously, the only users that you would want to run SVGALIB programs
: are logged in at the console -- and that is nicely handled by SVGALIB
: (try running sasteroids from a telnet :). But, since SVGALIB needs access
: to /dev/console (new versions) which is a link to a tty0-6, you need
: someway of letting it access them. One solution is to make tty? world
: readable/writeable/etc, but that's just wrong... The real solution, which
: most SVGALIB install programs do (witness zgv) is to install the program
: with owner _root_, and set the 'Run this program as owner' bit on the
: program.
: chmod a+s FileName
This is *NOT* a solution. This is *DANGEROUS* and *STUPID*.
Please a) read some books about system administration and security, and b)
think twice about the logical outcome of this sort of 'advice' before
posting to the net.
Note: follow-ups redirected to c.o.l.misc.
Nick
--
Thought for the day:
"Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any
good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats."
-- Howard Aiken
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From: mxsst1+@pitt.edu (Michael Stroucken)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Special Sale On QNX!
Date: 2 Oct 1994 04:53:41 GMT
[commercial crap deleted]
What did this have to do with Linux?
Greetings,
Michael.
--
Wissen ist Macht.
Wir wissen nichts.
Macht nichts.
Michael Stroucken mxsst1@pitt.edu Mud+IRC: Stroucki
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From: sss@whoa.cosmic.com (00:Jason Multari)
Subject: Upgrading (updating) kernel?
Date: 3 Oct 1994 19:14:34 GMT
I am curious about where to find information on upgrading the kernel. I am
using 1.1.18 right now, from the Slackware 2.0.0 release. Have yet to upgrade
the kernel, any info is much appreciated.
--
Steven S Spiroff Stuck in the slow lane of the Infobahn (harf!)
sss@cosmic.com
Long Island, NY, USA
------------------------------
From: spencer@montego.umcc.umich.edu (Spencer PriceNash)
Subject: Re: Recommendation: Partitioning Linux
Date: 3 Oct 1994 22:00:01 -0400
In article <GIGUERE.94Oct3150117@dracma.mrnews>,
marshall giguere <giguere@dracma.mrnews> wrote:
>I'm setting up a Linux system and would like some recommendations
>about partitioning. I plan to run with a X and a network in the future.
>
>1. Is it necessary to have both root and usr partition?
>
>2. What's the necessary size for a root partition.
>
>
>Currently I'm planning a layout something like this:
>
>Root: 35meg
>Swap: 16meg
>Usr: (the rest of the disk)
That's a teensy tiny root partition.
My Linux box looks like this (minus my SCO Xenix partition, which
Linux apparently doesn't recognize, and that's just fine):
Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/hdb1 117992 85752 26341 77% /
/dev/hdb3 280560 131331 135201 49% /u
/dev/hda1 19444 5960 13484 31% /dosc
di (not distributed with Linux) says this:
Mount Kbytes Used Avail %used Inodes Used Free %used
/ 117992 85752 26341 78% 29520 7545 21975 26%
/dosc 19444 5960 13484 31% 0 0 0 0%
/u 280560 131331 135201 52% 70280 15032 55248 21%
I put all the users on /u.
I wish my / partition were bigger, actually. Yeah, I made it 115M,
but now I wish it were, say, 140M. I have everything installed
except TeX and OO, plus a few things I found useful in the *nix
newsgroups.
Figure that whatever you install will be, say, 1.5M or 2M per disk you
install, if you're installing from disks.
Again, I think your choice of root partition size is by far too small.
--
Spencer PriceNash spencer@spencer.ann-arbor.mi.us spencer@umcc.umich.edu
Dan Quayle via anon ftp: Quotes at umcc.umich.edu in pub/users/quayle, GIFs
and sound files at vaxa.crc.mssm.edu in quayle/gif and quayle/sound.
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From: john@linux.demon.co.uk (John Phillips)
Subject: Re: PPP vs SLIP?
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 09:36:35 +0000
macgyver@MCS.COM (MacGyver) writes:
>Currently, I'm happily churning away, using [C]SLIP on my machine. Recently,
>someone told me that PPP is more efficient and much better than using
>SLIP. Is this true?
My IP provider has both PPP and [C]SLIP access, and I too have
configured both. Configuration of PPP was equally easy when I put
it in, after having previously set up CSLIP.
As for performance, I have measured data transfer rates and found that
for me, PPP runs from 0 to 2 percent slower than CSLIP, depending on
the type of data that is being transferred. You have to get the
asyncmap right with PPP to prevent a hit of up to 12.5 percent in
transfer rate.
The differences in performance and configuration seem to be too small
to really matter. I suggest that other criteria are more important for
choosing between the protocols.
My IP provider prefers PPP, since the diagnostics are better than for
CSLIP (they are much better). So I shall stick with PPP. In your own
circumstances this may not mattter as much.
John
--
John Phillips
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From: chavey@balin.cis.udel.edu (Laurent Chavey)
Subject: format problem and rawrite also
Date: 4 Oct 1994 11:39:04 GMT
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i found my /bin directory as ?rwxx xxx junk ...
I lost it on my drive partition hda1.
I have dos on hda4, and I am wondering how this appened.
Also, I can not format (in dos) sorry for that, but I am puzzled,
it does the format up to 100 % then give me a read error, and
abot,fail, retry.
Rawrite dows not work either, but I can make a boot floppy from
linux, or using norton disk doctor.
Can smoeone give me a hint why it would be my drive, if so,
why it does not format with dos format, or can not write with
rawrite, but works to make a boot disk from Linux.
Is it a virus, or hardware.
If it is a virus, is there some shareware on the net to help me detect it,
and cure.
thank you and sorry for the dos question, but I am at a dead end.
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i found my /bin directory as ?rwxx xxx junk ...
I lost it on my drive partition hda1.
I have dos on hda4, and I am wondering how this appened.
Also, I can not format (in dos) sorry for that, but I am puzzled,
it does the format up to 100 % then give me a read error, and
abot,fail, retry.
Rawrite dows not work either, but I can make a boot floppy from
linux, or using norton disk doctor.
Can smoeone give me a hint why it would be my drive, if so,
why it does not format with dos format, or can not write with
rawrite, but works to make a boot disk from Linux.
Is it a virus, or hardware.
If it is a virus, is there some shareware on the net to help me detect it,
and cure.
thank you and sorry for the dos question, but I am at a dead end.
Subject: Re: floppy problems on Linux 1.1.51
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