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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #519
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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 11:13:08 EST
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Linux-Development Digest #519, Volume #1 Fri, 4 Mar 94 11:13:08 EST
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Contents:
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Re: Linux and X WordPerfect (Eric Youngdale)
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Is there a driver for BusLogic 445 VLB (not aha1540). (Joseph P DeCello III)
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Re: Amiga FileSystem, Anyone? (David Wright)
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Re: Amiga FileSystem, Anyone? (John Edward Tillema,&91M+soAj)
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Re: Amiga FileSystem, Anyone? (John Edward Tillema,&91M+soAj)
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Re: Specialix driver (Keith Medcalf)
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Re: X11R6? (Christian Moen)
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Re: Specialix driver (Rob Janssen)
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Re: Attention Linux Adaptec developers (Christian Moen)
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Re: Is there a driver for BusLogic 445 VLB (not aha1540). (Harald Koenig)
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program runs fine in xxgdb, but not in xterm! (Manoj Kasichainula)
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Re: Multi-Serial Cards? (Rich Braun)
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From: eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale)
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Subject: Re: Linux and X WordPerfect
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Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 17:33:04 GMT
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In article <1994Mar1.222449.1050@sfu.ca> ken@darwin.mbb.sfu.ca (Ken Clark) writes:
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>I thought that the folks at Cygnus were working on this. Wasn't there
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>the implication in the last release of gld that ELF would be readly RSN,
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>or was that just a wishfull dream on my part? I thought gas allready
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>supported ELF sort of.
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ELF is supported but it only works for staticly linked binaries. It is
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only the shared library support that is missing. Without it, very few people
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would be willing to switch.
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>Right now this seems to be what everyone is holding their breath for
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>(Linux, FreeBSD, BSDI BSD/386). I think that a working ELF gld would
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>also allow a completely free development system (libs and all) for
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>Unixware and friends, no?
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Quite true. I am developing a libc.so.1 for SVr4 binaries under linux,
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and it needs to be compiled and linked under SVr4.
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>Eric, you mention that finishing ELF for gld would be a daunting task
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>(which terrifies me, since there seems to be no limit to Eric's talents
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>at writing Linux kernel code). What exactly needs to be done to gld and
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>the GNU BFD to get this working? I thought that BFD was invented exactly
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>to make such a job "easy" (obviously not :-).
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There are lots of things that need to be done. I started in a week
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ago, just to get a feel for what would be needed. I am enclosing a list,
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and I have indicated the stuff that I have already done. Some of it is bfd
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and some of it is ld proper, and my main complaint is that bfd programs are
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very hard to trace because they jump all over the place through dispatch
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tables. Also, ld now uses a scripting language, and to really see what is
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going on you almost need to study the parser to see what is is likely to want
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to do.
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-Eric
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Remove stuff from existing sections that does not belong at all. Stuff with
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"*" has been done already.
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* 1) Allow sharable images to be loaded, mark as DYNAMIC.
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* 2) Set SHARED_LIBRARY bit for all symbols from the sharable libraries.
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* 3) Do not copy sections (i.e. text) from sharable libraries.
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4) Remove all sharable library symbols from the symtab.
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Add new sections to the image to hold stuff required for dynamic linking.
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5) For images linked to sharable images, add the reference to the
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program interpreter. Add .interp section to hold this.
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6) Generate a _DYNAMIC section, put it somewhere (at the end of
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.text??). Initially this section would be empty, but create primatives
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to add entries. Add this to the program header.
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7) For each sharable image, add the DT_NEEDED entry in _DYNAMIC so that
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the dynamic linker knows which sharable images are needed.
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8) Generate the second symtab which contains the symbols needed for
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dynamic linking. Generate the second string table which contains the
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symbols for dynamic linking (.dynsym, .dynstr).
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9) Generate the hash table, and generate the buckets and chains needed
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to describe all of the symbols in the new symbol table. Add reference
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to this in _DYNAMIC (.hash).
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10) Generate the PLT for this image for referenaces to sharable
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functions. (.plt).
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11) Generate the relocation section (.rel.plt) for references to
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sharable functions. Add appropriate pointers to _DYNAMIC.
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12) Generate GOT for references to objects in the sharable images.
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Add (.got) section to hold this.
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13) Generate the relocation section (.rel) for references to non
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function stuff. Add appropriate pointers to _DYNAMIC.
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14) Ancillary project - fix up binutils as required.
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--
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"The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep,
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And lines to code before I sleep, And lines to code before I sleep."
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From: decello@discovery.uucp (Joseph P DeCello III)
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Subject: Is there a driver for BusLogic 445 VLB (not aha1540).
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Date: 2 Mar 1994 23:57:31 GMT
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Is there a driver available or in development that FULLY supports
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the capabilities of this card. It's work well with AHA1540 emulation
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but I imagine, I won't get the performance of a BusLogic VLB driver.
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Thanks,
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Joe
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--
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=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Joseph P. DeCello III **Computer Asst.** Email: decello@cad.msu.edu
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Michigan State University CPP Phone: (517) 355-9582
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Dept. of Campus Park and Planning hours: MWF 8-11,2-4 EDT
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From: dmw@prism1.prism1.com (David Wright)
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Subject: Re: Amiga FileSystem, Anyone?
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Date: 2 Mar 94 13:01:28 GMT
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>>>>> "RJ" == Rob Janssen <rob@pe1chl.ampr.org> writes:
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RJ> I think Amiga disks are physically incompatible with the machines Linux
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RJ> normally runs on...
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Amiga FLOPPY drives (not the disks) are different than PC floppy
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drives, and I suppose that the PC's floppy controller might be incapable of
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reading floppy disks in Amiga format. But if you have an Amiga *HARD* drive
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there will be no difference between the drive & controller itself and a
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standard PC unit.
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The one other choice someone with an Amiga has is to use the C=
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supplied (or PD) software that lets the Amiga read & write MS-DOS format
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disks transparently. I guess you could also get the Amiga version of "tar",
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and use the raw floppy device to create a TAR diskette that Linux could read...
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Dave
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____________________________________________________________________________
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| /\ / | Prism Computer Applications | David Wright |
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| -/--\-- | 14650 Detroit Ave, Suite LL40 | dmw@Prism1.COM |
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| /____\ | Lakewood, OH 44107 USA | 216-228-1400 |
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From: tillemaj@news.doit.wisc.edu.UUCP (John Edward Tillema,&91M+soAj)
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Subject: Re: Amiga FileSystem, Anyone?
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Date: 3 Mar 1994 17:42:29 GMT
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From article <DHOLLAND.94Mar2042844@husc9.harvard.edu>, by dholland@husc9.harvard.edu (David Holland):
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> > and "How do I read Amiga disks on a PC? - You don't, use an MS-DOS
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> > filesystem on the Amiga" is definitely an Amiga FAQ.
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>
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> Ok, anybody have minix-fs or ext2fs for the Amiga?
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Hmmmm, didn't think about that. I know there is a version of Minix for
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the Amiga. I don't have it so haven' tried it out, but that might be
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another way to do it.
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John
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--
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--
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John Tillema //
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tillemaj@cae.wisc.edu \\// + 'nix
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From: tillemaj@news.doit.wisc.edu.UUCP (John Edward Tillema,&91M+soAj)
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Subject: Re: Amiga FileSystem, Anyone?
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Date: 3 Mar 1994 17:47:09 GMT
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From article <RICHK.94Mar3051508@netcom6.netcom.com>, by richk@netcom6.netcom.com (Richard Krehbiel):
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> The PC floppy controller chip works with sectors, each with a preamble
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> and header and CRC and trailer. The only command that doesn't work by
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> sector is "format track".
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>
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> The Amiga floppy controller "chip" is a section of the "Paula" custom
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> chip. All it does is get raw patters to and from the drive via DMA.
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> This gives the software a lot of latitude, to come up with creative
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> new layout schemes. The Amiga's floppy format uses one big sector per
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> track, with one preamble at the beginning and one trailer at the end
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> and 5632 data bytes in between. The PC floppy chip just can't make
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> sense of this.
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Is it possible to read in a raw image of a floppy on a PC (w/o gaps)
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so you could create say a ramdisk image of the floppy, and then via
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software manipulate this to get to Amiga files? It wouldn't be too
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efficient, but would allow access to the files.
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John
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--
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--
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John Tillema //
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tillemaj@cae.wisc.edu \\// + 'nix
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From: kmedcalf@zealot.uucp (Keith Medcalf)
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
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Subject: Re: Specialix driver
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Date: 4 Mar 1994 00:06:17 GMT
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Robert Lipe (robertl@arnet.com) wrote:
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: Help me out - I'm a believer in FSF and similar efforts, I just don't
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: see how it works for us. If we could get a clear, official legal
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: position on this, I think it would only help users of free software.
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So why do you not put your $25 where your mouth is and take a copy of the
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GPL and GLPL, and ask your local Supreme Court to provide an interpretation
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for you?
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The entire GPL/GLPL is quite straightforward and means just about
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precicisely what it says. If you get a good dictionary of the English
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Language (English, not American or Canadian, but ENGLISH), and look up the
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EXACT AND PRECISE meaning of every single word in the license, you will find
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out exactly what it means.
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The problem is the number of numbnuts that do not even know the meaning of
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the word DERIVED even though they seem to spout off about it for megabyte
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after megabvyte of useless interpretation that would be made much simpler if
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they could merely understand the Kings' English!
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--
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Keith Medcalf Internet: kmedcalf%zealot@eastern.com
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Keith Medcalf and Associates UUCP: eastern!zealot!kmedcalf
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From: christim@ifi.uio.no (Christian Moen)
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Subject: Re: X11R6?
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Date: 3 Mar 1994 03:16:30 GMT
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I have posted to comp.windows.x.whatever asking for directions to finding
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X11R6 source code... I got 1 reply, but lost it...
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I will ask here. Does anyone know where to find X11R6 source code?
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The X11R6 source-code has not been released to the public and is
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currently only available to X Consortium members. The source is
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scheduled to be released on April 15.
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--
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/ Christian Moen - christim@ifi.uio.no - http://www.ifi.uio.no/~christim/ \
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\ Fjellbirkeland 21A 114, N-0864 Oslo, Norway - Tel: +47 22 187103 - *<8O) /
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From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen)
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Subject: Re: Specialix driver
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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 10:11:20 GMT
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Reply-To: pe1chl@rabo.nl
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In <1994Mar3.130454.307@titan.westfalen.de> johannes@titan.westfalen.de (Johannes Stille) writes:
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[...]
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>All this doesn't depend on the wording of the GPL and of RMS' (or Linus'
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>or whoever's) interpretation, but only on the copyright laws. And of
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>course a final decision can only be made in court. (Let's hope this
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>won't be necessary.)
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Oh, no... don't bother.
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I'm sure the Specialix people have long turned away from even considering
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writing a driver for such a harsh environment!
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Rob
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--
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=========================================================================
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| Rob Janssen | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org |
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| e-mail: pe1chl@rabo.nl | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8UTR.#UTR.NLD.EU |
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From: christim@ifi.uio.no (Christian Moen)
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Subject: Re: Attention Linux Adaptec developers
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Date: 3 Mar 1994 02:54:36 GMT
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[schnipp]
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I hate Barney, and I hate large sigs, so I assume that there is a
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special place in hell reserved for this sig. I also vote that we
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ignore him until he cleans up his act
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I usually don't followup to people pounding someone seemingly new to
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the net, but I guess this will be the exception that confirms the
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rule.
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Why not help this guy instead of only saying how to behave himself ?
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I know there's a bandwidth problem in this newsgroup and signatures
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like the above should be avoided, but please don't play "net-cops" as
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there are too many of those already.
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Thanks.
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--
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/ Christian Moen - christim@ifi.uio.no - http://www.ifi.uio.no/~christim/ \
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\ Fjellbirkeland 21A 114, N-0864 Oslo, Norway - Tel: +47 22 187103 - *<8O) /
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From: koenig@nova.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Harald Koenig)
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Subject: Re: Is there a driver for BusLogic 445 VLB (not aha1540).
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Date: 4 Mar 94 13:07:57 GMT
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In <2l395b$lc5@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> decello@discovery.uucp (Joseph P DeCello III) writes:
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>Is there a driver available or in development that FULLY supports
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>the capabilities of this card. It's work well with AHA1540 emulation
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>but I imagine, I won't get the performance of a BusLogic VLB driver.
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hmm, i dopn't know which capabilities from your bt445s you're missing.
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with my 486/dx2-66, the bt445s and a fast disk I got up to 5.5MB/sec
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sustained ftransfer rate with both the aha1542 and and the bt445 driver
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for Linux.
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maybe you only need a faster disk?
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Harald
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--
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Harald Koenig, Inst.f.Theoret.Astrophysik (koenig@tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de)
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All SCSI disks will from now on be required to send an email
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notice 24 hours prior to complete hardware failure!
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From: mvkasich@eos.ncsu.edu (Manoj Kasichainula)
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Subject: program runs fine in xxgdb, but not in xterm!
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Date: 4 Mar 1994 15:15:19 GMT
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Reply-To: mvkasich@eos.ncsu.edu (Manoj Kasichainula)
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OK, here's the situation. I'm trying to do a program for my data
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structures class at home. I've appended a copy of it below to look at.
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When I run the program at the command line prompt, it immediately exits
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and sets $status to 1. But when I run it in xxgdb, it runs fine, except
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for some necessary debugging 8^). Why is the program not doing anything
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when run at the command line prompt? No I'm not asking someone to debug
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the program, just please explain why it doing what it's doing. Oh yeah,
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when I run the program on the DECstations at college, it works fine.
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Thanks in advance.
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Vital statistics:
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kernel 0.99 pl 15j (Yeah, I know I shouldn't follow alpha releases so much!)
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gcc 2.5.8
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libc 4.5.21
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slackware 1.1.2
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computer: gateway p5-60 w/ 16MB ram
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copies of the 3 files follow...
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=====ttwinner.h======
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#define BOARDSIZE 7
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#define HUMAN -1 /* These values are valid for odd numbered rows */
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#define COMPUTER 1 /* The values are reversed for even rows */
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#define DRAW 0 /* I should use enum, but I don't like it */
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typedef int Board[BOARDSIZE+1];
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int winner(Board board);
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---- end ttwinner.h -----
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=====ttwinner.c=====
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#include "ttwinner.h"
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int winner(Board board)
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{
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int winning = 1, whowins, i = 0;
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whowins = board[BOARDSIZE/2];
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for (;i < BOARDSIZE / 2 - 1; i++)
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winning = winning && (board[i] == whowins)
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&& (board[BOARDSIZE - 1 - i] == whowins);
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return (winner && whowins);
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}
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----end ttwinner.c----
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===== tttest.c (main program) =====
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#include <stdio.h>
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#include <ctype.h>
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#include "ttwinner.h"
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int main(void)
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{
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Board board = {0};
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int slot, shift, i, nummoves = 0, whomoves = 1, temp;
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char leftorright[10];
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while ((winner(board) == DRAW) && (nummoves != BOARDSIZE))
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{
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puts("The slots are numbered as follows:");
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puts(" 0 1 2");
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puts(" 3");
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puts(" 6 5 4");
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printf("Enter the slot you want to fill: ");
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scanf("%i", &slot);
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printf("Rotate the board left or right? <L/R>");
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scanf("%s", leftorright);
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board[slot] = whomoves;
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shift = (toupper(*leftorright) == 'L') ? -1 : 1;
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temp = board[shift % BOARDSIZE];
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for (i = 0; i < BOARDSIZE -1 ; i++)
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board[(i + shift) % BOARDSIZE] = board[i];
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board[(2*shift) % BOARDSIZE] = temp;
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for (i = 0; i < BOARDSIZE/2; i++)
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switch(board[i])
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{
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case -1 : putchar('H');putchar(' ');break;
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case 0 : putchar('X');putchar(' ');break;
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case 1 : putchar('C');putchar(' ');break;
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}
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putchar('\n');
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for (i = 0; i <= BOARDSIZE - 1; i++)
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putchar(' ');
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switch(board[BOARDSIZE/2])
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{
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case -1 : putchar('H');putchar(' ');break;
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case 0 : putchar(' ');putchar(' ');break;
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case 1 : putchar('C');putchar(' ');break;
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}
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putchar('\n');
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for (i = BOARDSIZE - 1; i > BOARDSIZE/2; i--)
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switch(board[i])
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{
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case -1 : putchar('H');putchar(' ');break;
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case 0 : putchar(' ');putchar(' ');break;
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case 1 : putchar('C');putchar(' ');break;
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}
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putchar('\n');
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whomoves = -whomoves;
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}
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if (winner(board) == HUMAN)
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puts("You won, it wasn't that hard since you made all the moves");
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if (winner(board) == COMPUTER)
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puts("I won, obviously a result of my suprior intellect.");
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if (winner(board) == DRAW)
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puts("You played all the moves, and you could still only manage a tie!");
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}
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---- end tttest.c -----
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--
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| | "Violence is the refuge of
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| Manoj Kasichainula - mvkasich@eos.ncsu.edu | the incompetant."
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| Leader of the Jihad to Destroy Barney at NCSU | - Salvor Hardin
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From: richb@pioneer.ci.net (Rich Braun)
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Subject: Re: Multi-Serial Cards?
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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 15:19:31 GMT
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marauder <marauder@lod.amaranth.com> wrote:
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>I am looking for som input on which multi-serial cards are available and
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>compatible for use with Linux. I am basically looking for a 4-port card that
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>would support dialup modems. Are there any people who have a setup like this
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>in place? -- any input would be greatly appteciated.
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For about six months I've been running the STB 4-Com (as another
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poster noted, it's $27.50 retail per port, $110 at places like Computer
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City). In a recent conversation with the vendor, though, I was informed
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that this is the end of the line for STB's comm adapters--they are
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devoting engineering resources to graphics adapters. So while I really
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like the STB--it works with Ted Ts'o's device driver out-of-the-box,
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don't expect to be able to increase your dialup pool beyond 8 ports
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with this product (you get 8 different I/O port address selections via
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jumpers on this board, so you can install two of them and that's it.)
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I bought a Gtek BBS550 8-port card and found that it kinda limps along with
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the stock serial driver. Am now awaiting a device-driver diskette from
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the vendor (they do support Linux.) The price of this card is $35 per
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port ($279) from the place I bought it; all ports have full 10-wire modem
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control.
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Boca has come out with full modem control 8- and 16-port cards. I'll be
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looking into those soon.
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With these products on the market, along with cheap 486's, it's now
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possible to build a full-blown Unix box with disk storage for less money
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per dialup port than what terminal server vendors charge for their
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products. May I never buy another Xyplex/Xylogics/whatever unit again.
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THANK YOU, Linux developers, for making all the comm stuff work well
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enough to replace terminal servers.
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-rich
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Question Reality. ____ New England Community Internet
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See URL http://www.pn.com \ / NECI: neci-info@pioneer.ci.net
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