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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@news-digests.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Activists@news-digests.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@news-digests.mit.edu
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Date: Wed, 26 Feb 92 23:45:12 EST
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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #72
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Linux-Activists Digest #72, Volume #1 Wed, 26 Feb 92 23:45:12 EST
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Contents:
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tsx-11, new upload (was Re: bug fix for the new gcc 1.40) (Dan Stromberg)
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tubes on tsx-11 (Lawrence C. Foard)
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Re: More questions about Linux :-) (Michael Bethune)
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May be a small bug in poe-IGL (R. Ramesh)
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trouble dialing in with poe-IGL (Mark Saltzman)
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linux-standards (Paul Richards)
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startup shell? (Paul Richards)
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HELP (or am I an idiot?) (Vinter Brian)
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emacs...shell problem? or just me? (Philip Copeland)
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Floating point performance (Paul C. Janzen)
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Making whatis, roff (Drew Eckhardt)
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some bugs in gcc 1.40 (Mark Saltzman)
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BASH trifle (Quillen Edward O)
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Re: Can't run off of hard disk. (Al Clark)
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WD ESDI works, but only 1 partition... (Paul M Schwartz)
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Problem with UNCOMPRESS (Adam Thompson)
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From: strombrg@uceng.UC.EDU (Dan Stromberg)
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Subject: tsx-11, new upload (was Re: bug fix for the new gcc 1.40)
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Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1992 04:16:13 GMT
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In article <1992Feb25.042024.10512@athena.mit.edu> tytso@athena.mit.edu writes:
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>I've also taken the time to process all of the uploaded files that have
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>hit ~ftp/incoming in the past few days. To make things easier on me
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>(I've been fairly time-crunched at work lately), I'd appreciate it if:
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(Good suggestions deleted)
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Three of those things I uploaded, without attribution:
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- sdbm, an ndbm clone
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- m4, a preprocessor
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- John Haugh's shadow password suite.
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I used the first two, and a number of pieces of poe's work, in building
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the third.
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The third contains:
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chage chfn chpasswd chsh dialup.h dpasswd faillog gpasswd groupadd
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groupdel groupmod groups id libshadow.a login login.defs logoutd
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mkpasswd newgrp newusers passwd pwconv pwd.h pwunconv shadow.h
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su sulogin useradd userdel usermod
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If anything, it's too much stuff. My 3M root partition is nearly
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full. Shared libraries for this would be kind of nice.
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On tsx-11, the shadow password stuff is split into two files:
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shadow-src.tar.Z and shadow-bin.tar.Z. You *can* use the binaries
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without grabbing the source, but there's a small kernel patch in
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the src file, which makes it look nicer... It adds ECHONL support,
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so when you hit enter after typing a password, the enter is echoed.
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shadow-src contains a README file. shadow-bin contains a script
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"quick.install", taken from a "make -n install", to get it
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running on your system with minimal effort.
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> - Ted
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Thanks, Ted.
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- Dan
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From: entropy@ee.WPI.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard)
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Subject: tubes on tsx-11
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Reply-To: entropy@ee.WPI.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard)
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Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1992 09:55:59 GMT
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I've uploaded my kernel+some demo programs to tsx-11.mit.edu as tubes.tar.Z.
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I tried to patch a fresh kernel and then make a diff from that but ran into
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some weird problems which might also explain the problems people had with
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the floppy patch. The fresh kernel seems to have some things mine doesn't.
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The kernel I uploaded is the one I've been using, floppy+vc patchs.
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All the changes in fs/*.c (except select) are surrounded with #ifdefs so
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they could be cut and pasted in to another kernel. I'm hoping that once
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Linux has VFS it will be possible to make a simple patch instead of
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modifying a bunch of files.
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From: mikeb@yarra.pyramid.com.au (Michael Bethune)
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Subject: Re: More questions about Linux :-)
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Date: 26 Feb 92 12:59:32 GMT
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In article <1992Feb26.000307.15433@mathsoft.com> benji@mathsoft.com (Benjamin Cline) writes:
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>In article <1992Feb19.074831.6031@daimi.aau.dk> tthorn@daimi.aau.dk (Tommy Thorn) writes:
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>>
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>>Would everybody please stop calling Linux *a small system*. It's small
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>>yes, but already very complete, and I hope see several more things yet, like:
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>>
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>> o IP/TCP, NFS
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>>
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>>I think most of it will come eventually, just because people need/miss it.
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>>
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>Who exactly "owns" NFS, I was under the impression that it was licensed from
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>sun.
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>
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Sun have placed the specification of all three components of NFS into the
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public domain, RPC (Remote Procedure Calls, and in this case they have also
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placed an implementation into the public domain), XDR ( External Data
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Representation) and the NFS protocol itself which sits on top of the above two.
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They did this to encourage the wide spread adoption of NFS and were
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successful in this.
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i.e. OSF provide an implementation of NFS in OSF/1 which originates from Guelph
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University (where ever that is) which doesn't include any Sun Microsystem's
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Code and which consequently isn't covered by any Sun Copyrights.
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This style of enlightened marketing has been one of the great things about
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Sun, hopefully ( in spite of recent signs to the contrary :-() sun will
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continue this open approach.
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Cheers.
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--
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Michael Bethune Disclaimer: I have no commercial
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Independent Unix Consultant. relationship with Pyramid and
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Phone: +61 3 018 538103 do not represent them in any way.
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Melbourne, Australia.
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From: ramesh@utdallas.edu (R. Ramesh)
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Subject: May be a small bug in poe-IGL
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Date: 26 Feb 92 16:12:17 GMT
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Reply-To: ramesh@utdallas.edu
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Hi everyone:
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I saw an article a couple of days ago complaining that init takes too much
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cpu cycles. I got into the same problem yesterday when I installed the poeigl
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stuff for the first time. Like Peter (author, poeigl) points out init should
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in fact be sleeing most of the time. A look at the code and the README file
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reveals that all error messages are displayed on /dev/console and I didn't
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have console. SO I made /dev/tty1 as console and then I found out that init was
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forking like crazy with exec failing. A look at inittab didn't reveal anything
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at first sight. But after a close look I found a blank line in it. A quick
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look at init.c revealed that blank lines in inittab are not ignored. So, my
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init was happily forking and execing a null string as file to execute.
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Naturally it was failing and restarting etc... Deleting the null line and
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sending a SIGHUP to init solved the problem.
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All those who had similar problems may want to check their inittab for null
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lines and spelling mistakes. Also don't forget the /dev/console.
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Peter, if you plan to fix this can you also make login and agetty to write
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error messages to /dev/console so that by linking appropriate /dev/tty? we can
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move error messages as per our liking.
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Ramesh.
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From: ak751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Saltzman)
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Subject: trouble dialing in with poe-IGL
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Date: 26 Feb 92 18:34:39 GMT
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Reply-To: ak751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Saltzman)
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When I try to dial in to poe-IGL using a hayes compatible 2400 baud
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modem i get stuff like this:
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(none) login: password: Login incorrect
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repeated a few times, without giving me the chance to respond to the
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login: prompt. What options do I need to give agetty in inittab? What
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options should my terminal emulator use (XON/XOFF, CTS/RTS, etc...).
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Also, I have not yet dared to modify my kernel in order to have it run
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init. When I want to use it, I just type init & from the shell. Is
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this ok?
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thanks for any info,
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-mark
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From: spedpr@thor.cf.ac.uk (Paul Richards)
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Subject: linux-standards
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Date: 26 Feb 92 12:48:16 GMT
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There seem to be problems getting mail to banjo.concert.net from the uk
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(maybe elsewhere?). I can't therefore subscribe to linux-standards. Does
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anyone know what the problem is. Could an alternative route be
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established?
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In the meantime could I be subscribed, there is no problem with mail the
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other way.
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--
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Paul Richards at Cardiff university, UK.
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spedpr@uk.ac.cf.thor Internet: spedpr%thor.cf.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk
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UUCP: spedpr@thor.cf.UUCP or ...!uunet!mcsun!ukc!cf!thor!spedpr
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+++
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From: spedpr@thor.cf.ac.uk (Paul Richards)
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Subject: startup shell?
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Date: 26 Feb 92 13:27:38 GMT
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I've created a /home/root directory and modified /etc/passwd accordingly
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but it doesn't work. It's just occured to me that /etc/passwd isn't even
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used since I don't have the login stuff installed yet.
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What happens when I start up. The home directory is always set to
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/usr/root and a set of environment variables appear from somewhere.
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What is setting things up this way and will I have to get the login
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stuff working to change it.
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--
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Paul Richards at Cardiff university, UK.
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spedpr@uk.ac.cf.thor Internet: spedpr%thor.cf.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk
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UUCP: spedpr@thor.cf.UUCP or ...!uunet!mcsun!ukc!cf!thor!spedpr
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+++
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From: vinter@iesd.auc.dk (Vinter Brian)
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Subject: HELP (or am I an idiot?)
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Date: 26 Feb 92 08:07:54 GMT
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Help please!!!
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It's not that I want to be stupid but I'm getting a little paranoid....
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The problem is (yes again) instalation to HD.
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I know that there is a partion.faq and I read it a million times, give or
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take a few, but it still dont work.
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Now the setup is as follows...
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My first harddisk is a 43 MB drive, I have split it into two partitions
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at 23 MB and 20 MB, I got DOS running on the first partition and I want to
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install Linux on the second partition, just like everybody else...
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I boot Linux from floppy, fdisk tells me that I have two drives and that
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the second drive holds 20046 blocks, nice!
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mkfs -c /dev/hd2 20046 works allright two, no sweat.
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Mounting /dev/hd2 /user goes well two.
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The recursive copy function works, and I can cd /user and actually play around
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the harddisk, this stuff is just okay, but I sync (yes 3 times don't wanna
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upset the UNIX god where ever he is:))
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Reset and boot the boot disk which is changed to 508=3 509=2 comes up with
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the usual Press enter to see SVGA modes....
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.
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Insert rootsystem into floppy and press enter (I cant remember the exact words
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but something like that you know it...)
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BUT NOW WHEN I PRESS ENTER I JUST GET
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Reset floppy called.
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Reset floppy called.
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Reset floppy called.
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Reset floppy called.
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Reset floppy called.
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Reset floppy called.
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You get the picture ?
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I have tried the above drill about 15 times, please what do I do wrong?
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Otherwise Linux seems just like what I needed, and I lokking forward to get
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it running.
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vinter
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From: p_copela@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Philip Copeland)
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Subject: emacs...shell problem? or just me?
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Date: 26 Feb 92 19:32:04 GMT
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Reply-To: p_copela@csd.bristol-poly.ac.uk
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Well I'm knackered. I just finished showing off LINUX 0.12 to all the main
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computing staff (CSM admissions tutor, SUN transputer manager, main unix
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administrators and other asorted staff) (i've never been so terified in my
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life!)
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I 'modified' 6 machines (opel, emerald, diamond.. etc) and created an almost
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exact duplicate of our main sun system's directory hirarchy and passwd files
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.... extended thanks go to linus torvolds, LeBlanc@uk.ac.mcc, poe@dk.aau.daimi,
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and all the other people i've pestered over the last few days 8)
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verdict?... they all want one and bug**r the sun solaris effort that they had
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all been reading about!... tom (sys manager of csd) wants xwindows, will (sys
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of the workstation network) wants a 386.. badly, andy (transputer boss & sys
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admin) will possibly donate a couple of tranputer 486's.... and wants a copy
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for the one he has at home,... (sigh)...
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QUOTE of the day: (Andy) ... look tom,.. it's unix,.. it's real unix!...
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all went exceedingly well and except for the occasional bsd sysv conflict,
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they all seemed quite at home. (I think it was the food that i provided that
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set it all off actually).
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The thing is, these people are seasoned bsd unix administrators and although
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almost everything worked, there was ONE small/big? problem
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EMACS 18.57 !!!!!
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tom tried to load up a shell in emacs and ... it hung,... the processor
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died and i felt 2" high... (gurr) i tried it out and sure enough
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emacs hangs trying to start a new shell
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has anyone else come across this? or is it something that i've not done?
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the other features are all there but the shell seems broke,... i can't
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recover from it either 8( not even in a second virt con
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the machine is a 386 16mhz sx 40 meg hd, 9 meg swap space(overkill) 4 meg
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memory...
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any takers?
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Phil
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=--=
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From: ifai645@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Paul C. Janzen)
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Subject: Floating point performance
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Date: 26 Feb 1992 19:16:46 GMT
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I just got GCC-1.40 and the libsoft.a. :-) :-) :-)
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So I took a typical differential equation solution program (alright,
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it's braindead, but it's interesting) and compiled it using
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gcc -O -Wall -o vibr vibr.c -lsoft
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and timed the results. It took *9 TIMES* as long as the same program
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compiled under MessedupDos using BC++ 3.0 to run. (only a few doshells
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running, besides the program itself.)
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All the algorithm does is take a sin(), a sqrt(), and some
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multiplications and divisions on each step.
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Is libsoft.a just slow, or is it the overhead of Linux, or what?
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Would I really see a >10x performance gain by getting a coprocessor?
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Thanks!
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========================================================================
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Paul C. Janzen Practical people would be more practical
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ifai645@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu if they would take a little more time for
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dreaming. -- J. P. McEvoy
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========================================================================
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From: drew@cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
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Subject: Making whatis, roff
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Date: 27 Feb 92 00:47:35 GMT
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Ok, as promised here it is. It only makes whatis from roff manpages, and will
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puke if the man pages are not standard format
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(IE : .SH NAME
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name1[,name2, name3 ...] - description
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is not there)
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Note that by changing it to look for the resulting "straight ASCII"
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of NAME , and by extracting section from the file name,
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you can work on CAT pages instead.
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Output is to stdout.
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Problem : I don't have roff!
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Solution : I have uploaded cawf binaries to nic.funet.fi under
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incomming. The only changes to the distribution sources
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were to ignore non-fatal error messages.
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Simply install it, make a symlink to nroff from cawf,
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and be happy.
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--makewhatis--
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#!/bin/sh
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cd /usr/man/
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(
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for DIRECTORY in `ls -d man* `; do
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cd /usr/man/${DIRECTORY}
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FILES=`ls`
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if test "$FILES"; then
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for FILE in $FILES; do
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WHAT=`echo $FILE | awk -F. '{print $1}'`
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THSECTION=`grep .TH $FILE | awk '{print $3}' | head -1`
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WHERE=$[`grep -n ".SH NAME" $FILE | awk -F: '{print $1}'` + 1]
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head -$WHERE $FILE | tail -1 | tr '\\' ' ' | \
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awk -F- '{printf("%s('${THSECTION}') \t- %s\n"), $1,$2 }'
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done
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fi
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cd ..
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done
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) | sort
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From: ak751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Saltzman)
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Subject: some bugs in gcc 1.40
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Reply-To: ak751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Saltzman)
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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 92 02:03:25 GMT
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It seems that the new gcc has some problems with converting floating
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point numbers to ints. Try 'printf( "%d\n", (int) 0.51 )'. It appears
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to be rounding instead of truncating.
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I have also noticed some problems with v*printf. v*printf should accept
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a va_list as a formal parameter which is then passed on to _doprnt.
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However in the new libc.a, v*printf acts just like *printf, with a
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variable formal parameter list. It then attempts to create the va_list
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itself which it then incorrectly passes on to _doprnt.
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I have also
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noticed dramatic reductions in floating point performance in comparison
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with the old libc.a. Oh yeah, the floor() and ceil() functions (or
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maybe just one of them) cause a segmentation fault.
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mark
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From: quillen@cpss16.cps.msu.edu (Quillen Edward O)
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Subject: BASH trifle
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Date: 27 Feb 92 00:25:05 GMT
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This is probably a really silly question, but a necessary one for me
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to be productive with Linux:
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How do I imbed the current working directory in the prompt?
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In csh I use:
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alias cd 'cd \!*; set prompt="<`dirs`>"'
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I can't get this to work with Bash.( using PS1 etc...)
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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+++ ED (Edward Quillen) 6-1293 +++
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+++ Vet Teaching Hosp. +++
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+++ Email: quillen@cps.msu.edu +++
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+++ EOQ@vthnw.cvm.msu.edu +++
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+++ eoq@vthvax.cvm.msu.edu +++
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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--
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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+++ ED (Edward Quillen) 6-1293 +++
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+++ Vet Teaching Hosp. SYSTEM MANAGER +++
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+++ Email: quillen@cps.msu.edu +++
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From: aclark@netcom.com (Al Clark)
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Subject: Re: Can't run off of hard disk.
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Date: 26 Feb 92 23:43:18 GMT
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aclark@netcom.com (Al Clark) writes:
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: I am using 0.12 boot and root images.
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- report on modification of boot image omitted --
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: Am I missing something obvious???
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Thanks to the sharp eyes of Pauli.Ramo@hut.fi, who noted that I was
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modifying the "root" rather than "boot" floppy. Which was missing
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something obvious.
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Al - aclark@netcom.com - My opinions are my own.
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*** Commit acts of random kindness and senseless beauty! ***
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From: v206gb6c@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Paul M Schwartz)
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Subject: WD ESDI works, but only 1 partition...
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Date: 27 Feb 92 03:58:00 GMT
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My WD xx07-2 controller with sector translation seems to work just fine
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under Linux; however, I can only mkfs a single partition. Anyone have any
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ideas? All the partitions are of the same type. They are hd7-9, 10, 32,and
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8 megs. The 10 meg works just fine, but mkfs refuses to work on the other
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two. When I make it one big partition, mkfs works just fine. Help please.
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I'm gonna try to make the 3rd partition a swap drive tonight.
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PauL M SchwartZ | Follow men's eyes as they look to the skys
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PUNK!, geez, anyways | the shifting shafts of shining
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v206gb6c@ubvms.BitNet | weave the fabric of their dreams.
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pms@acsu.buffalo.edu | - RUSH -
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From: umthom61@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Adam Thompson)
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Subject: Problem with UNCOMPRESS
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Date: 27 Feb 92 03:25:47 GMT
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I've installed Linux (v.0.12, no patches yet - read on to see why)
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on my second HD (40Meg, Connors IDE somethingorother), and leave my first
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40M HD as DOS. I boot linux off floppy. (I can diable speed switching, so
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it's acceptably fast)
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I d/l (using kermit - when will serial I/O work properly?) all the compiler
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binaries, as86, bison, flex, gcc, and stuck them into /tmp.
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Then I try 'uncompress as86.tar.Z' ... it works for a little while, then
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hangs the machine. I can type for about ~15-25 seconds after I execute
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(fg or bg - doesn't matter except in timing) and then the whole machine just
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sits there ... a nice-looking paperweight.
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I have 4M RAM, no swap space. No error messages. It'll sync until it dies,
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so it seems there's a specific point at which uncompress stops...
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the same thing happens no matter which file I try to uncompress.
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I didn't have this problem with the tar.Z that came on the root image.
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I don't have this problem when I 'compress' something and then 'uncompress'
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again.
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Any ideas, people?
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BTW: when will 0.13 be released? 2) what is the secondary v#(0.95) that I keep
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seeing ?
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-Adam Thompson
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= Adam Thompson ---- Computer Engineering ---- University of Manitoba =
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= umthom61@ccu.umanitoba.ca = "When you have eliminated the improbable, =
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= ...!uunet!decwrl!alberta!\ = whatever is left, however impossible, =
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= ccu.UManitoba.CA!umthom61 = must be the answer." =
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--
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= Adam Thompson ---- Computer Engineering ---- University of Manitoba =
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= umthom61@ccu.umanitoba.ca = "When you have eliminated the improbable, =
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= ...!uunet!decwrl!alberta!\ = whatever is left, however impossible, =
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= ccu.UManitoba.CA!umthom61 = must be the answer." =
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