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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@news-digests.mit.edu>
To: Linux-Activists@news-digests.mit.edu
Reply-To: Linux-Activists@news-digests.mit.edu
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 92 06:15:06 EST
Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #92
Linux-Activists Digest #92, Volume #1 Tue, 10 Mar 92 06:15:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux-0.95 (A. V. Le Blanc)
Miscellaneous sources (A. V. Le Blanc)
Re: comp.os.linux (A. V. Le Blanc)
Linux 0.95 - booting problems. (R. Ramesh)
ftp sites... (Chuck Boyer)
DTC SCSI controller (sPiNdRy)
Re: ftp sites... (Adam Justin Thornton)
Linux 0.95 floppy problem (3.5") (joseph.r.massi)
Re: ftp sites... (joseph.r.massi)
gcc 2.0 (Hongjiu Lu -- Graduate Student)
Could FAQ for linux be on each linux site? (Jiansheng Zhao)
minor changes to gcc 2.0 (Hongjiu Lu -- Graduate Student)
Re: ftp sites... (Adam Justin Thornton)
VGA slection at bootup ... (Dirk Hohndel)
Re: Uploaded pfdisk (= partition editor) to tsx-11 and funet.fi (Ben Lippolt)
0.95: problem reports with disk, screen (Andrew Haylett (GEC-Marconi Research Centre))
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From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc)
Subject: Re: Linux-0.95
Date: 9 Mar 92 09:28:45 GMT
A copy of the new release 0.95 of Linux is available by
anonymous ftp from hpb.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.7] in the directory
pub/linux. Except for the local additions in directories mcc-*,
this directory mirrors nic.funet.fi:pub/OS/Linux with the
following qualifications (at the moment):
INCLUDE/bootimage.Z is named INCLUDE/bootimage-0.95.Z
INCLUDE/rootimage.Z is named INCLUDE/rootimage-0.95.Z
kernel/include.tar.Z is named kernel/include-0.12.tar.Z
tools/fsck.c is named tools/fsck.c.old
Please feel free to comment or make suggestions to me.
A. V. Le Blanc
University of Manchester
LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk
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From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc)
Subject: Miscellaneous sources
Date: 9 Mar 92 09:58:09 GMT
I have been trying to collect the sources for various programs
which have been distributed for Linux. In pub/linux/interim/sources
on hpb.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.7] I have placed the file misc.tar.Z
which contains the sources and Makefile for df, swapon, fdisk,
strings, kill, setterm, fsck, mkfs, mkswap, and stty.
(1) I should very much like to include other missing sources.
Among the binaries distributed with Linux, there do not
seem to be sources for od, passwd, rootdev, sync, and update.
There are also no sources for Bruce Evans's as86 and ld86.
(2) More and more bits will be added to this file in time, I
expect. Please feel free to contribute suggestions and
source. I'll be glad to distribute big source separately.
-- Owen
LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk
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From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc)
Subject: Re: comp.os.linux
Date: 9 Mar 92 10:17:24 GMT
In article <1992Mar9.054413.16803@athena.mit.edu> tytso@athena.mit.edu writes:
> The voting for comp.os.linux is still going on, so send in your
>votes to Linux-Yes@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (if you want the Usenet
>Newsgroup to be created) or Linux-No@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (if you
>don't), if you haven't voted yet.
I received some time ago a notice that voting was to have been
finished by some date in February. I received the notice after
the concluding date it contained. Who sent that out, and did
anyone else fail to vote because of it?
-- Owen
LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk
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From: ramesh@utdallas.edu (R. Ramesh)
Subject: Linux 0.95 - booting problems.
Date: 10 Mar 92 01:50:20 GMT
Hi linuxers and Linus:
I ftped the boot and root image from tsx-11 and got them over to my PC
which currently runs 0.12. Uncompressed each piece and booted the new kernel.
Every thing went fine until I had to insert root floppy. Alas! 0.95 was unable
to read the root fs and called reset floppy about 20 times and paniced not
being able to read device 0208 (I guess major = 2, minor = 8 i.e., /dev/at0) and
hung. One obvious thought was corrupt ftp'ing or kermitting. But, I don't
think so, as the root diskette itself is mountable and usable/readable with
exisiting 0.12 kernel. So I figured the boot diskette is bad.
To fix the second problem, I got the kernel sources compiled with gcc 1.40
and got a version with rootdev=FLOPPY. Booting with this also leads to the
same problem. Any ideas as to what is going on?
Next, I compiled the kernel for hard disk version (/dev/hd2, I didn't care
too much for change of names as the major/minor # are the same). Booted with
it. This time everything went fine until I tried to login as root on
/dev/tty2. Oops! kernel cried twice with general protection error 000.....
etc. But, it did let me login and use the system. So far so good. Now I move
into the linux 0.95 source and do a "make clean". Oops!, kernel really
yells. I got a number of messages with (1) invalid arguement = 0000 (2) fs:
0010 etc. After all that I checked and found that, in fact, make clean has
done its job. I do a make clean again (just to check) and again I get the
same set of messages (the number of times it is repeated may be different).
Can anybody make any sense?
Ramesh
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From: boyer@sumax.seattleu.edu (Chuck Boyer)
Subject: ftp sites...
Date: 10 Mar 92 02:15:08 GMT
All ftp location sites which are going to carry the root/boot image
files should also carry copies of 'a'/'any' (a standard one?) set
of DOS environment transfer, editing tools for getting the images
onto diskettes and setting up the hard-disks.
This will hold down/stop the 'beginner' questions.
Comments?
chuck
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From: ral45184@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (sPiNdRy )
Subject: DTC SCSI controller
Date: 10 Mar 92 04:09:22 GMT
Well, I've been lurking around this newsgroup hoping that oneday I
could try to install Linux on my 386... so today I read all the hype about
0.95 and decided that I'd give it a whirl...
After backing up EVERYTHING in my 105M drive onto FLOPPIES I decided
to see if my machine would boot linux from floppy...
I got 0.12, 0.95 and 0.12-seagate (0.12 with st-0x support)
I tried all three...
0.12) Didn't recognize my drive... Kernal panic: couldn't mount root
0.95) Couldn't mount root, wouldn't read the rootimage disk...
0.12 with seagate) booted all the way to... harddrives 0 tapes 0
kernal panic: could not mount root
I'm sensing a pattern here...
I know that my controller probably isn't seagate st-0x compatible (or
even close) but I would at least think I could boot linux from floppy?!?!?
Anyone? Anyone?
And does ANYONE out there even HAVE a DTC controller? let alone have
the driver for it to use linux??? *sigh* all day backing this thing up
and I don't even get a new operating system to play with *sob*
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From: adam@owlnet.rice.edu (Adam Justin Thornton)
Subject: Re: ftp sites...
Date: 10 Mar 92 04:26:26 GMT
Speaking of ftp sites, are there any which contain a gcc 2.0 which will work
under Linux? I'd rather not put together 0.95 until I have gcc 2.0 to work
with.
Adam
--
"This howling in the distance, it's a captivating sound/ Can't tell if it's
ecstasy or pain." | These aren't Rice's opinions, just mine, thank God.
"Cat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile. Nothing left to do but :-) :-) :-)"
>Radio Free Preterition from Pig Bodine and the Whole Sick Crew | 64,928<
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From: jrmassi@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (joseph.r.massi)
Subject: Linux 0.95 floppy problem (3.5")
Date: 10 Mar 92 05:26:02 GMT
I got the 0.95 boot and root image files from tsx-11 today, but I'm
disappointed to say that I'm unable to boot properly. I get all the
way through to the "insert root floppy" prompt OK, but after switching
to the root image floppy I get a series of "reset-floppy called"
messages followed by "floppy I/O error". My A drive is a 3.5" 1.44 MB type.
At first I thought the root image was bad, remembering the reset-floppy
message was returned if a floppy had a bad sector (in 0.12). I re-ftp'd
and re-rawrite'd the boot and root image floppies and tried again. No Luck.
When I boot 0.12, I can mount and read the 0.95 root image file system just
fine. One time I got 0.95 to boot from the floppy and all seemed normal,
but when I rebooted (yes after a sync) it failed again, and subsequent
retries have also failed. Every time I have the boot failure my CMOS
configuration data gets trashed and I have to reset it before I can
boot linux or dos.
Just for kicks, I patched the boot image to find root on the hard-drive
and was able to boot OK. Once I had 0.95 up this way, I tried to mount
and/or fsck a file system on drive A and again got the "reset-floppy
called" messages followed by "floppy I/O error" and "dev 021c block 1"
(or block 0) and upon reboot the CMOS configuration was trashed again.
I can read/mount/fsck/mtool files and file systems on my B drive (a 5.25"
1.2 MB type). It would appear that, at least for me, the 0.95 release
breaks my 3.5" floppy.
My system is a Gateway 2000 486/33 (Micronics) with 8 MB of memory and a
WD 200 MB IDE hard-drive. Linux 0.12 ran just fine on my system.
Any suggestions, ideas, fixes, sympathy, encouragement would be greatly
appreciated. For now I'm still using 0.12 :(.
Thanks in advance,
joe.
/* I'm not speaking for AT&T, and AT&T isn't speaking for me */
Joe Massi j_r_massi@att.com or att!col400!jrmassi
or jrmassi@access.digex.com
AT&T Bell Laboratories (301) 369-7780
Columbia, MD packet radio: kb2jg@w3iwi.md.usa.noam
--
joe.
/* I'm not speaking for AT&T, and AT&T isn't speaking for me */
Joe Massi j_r_massi@att.com or att!col400!jrmassi
AT&T Bell Laboratories (301) 369-7780
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From: jrmassi@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (joseph.r.massi)
Subject: Re: ftp sites...
Date: 10 Mar 92 05:32:03 GMT
In article <1992Mar10.042626.7133@rice.edu>, adam@owlnet.rice.edu (Adam Justin Thornton) writes:
> Speaking of ftp sites, are there any which contain a gcc 2.0 which will work
> under Linux? I'd rather not put together 0.95 until I have gcc 2.0 to work
> with.
Linus, others.....
Please let us know where we can get gcc 2.0 this is getting to be a FAQ.
joe.
--
joe.
/* I'm not speaking for AT&T, and AT&T isn't speaking for me */
Joe Massi j_r_massi@att.com or att!col400!jrmassi
AT&T Bell Laboratories (301) 369-7780
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From: hlu@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Hongjiu Lu -- Graduate Student)
Subject: gcc 2.0
Reply-To: hlu@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Hongjiu Lu -- Graduate Student)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1992 06:09:30 GMT
Hi,
Please remember gcc 2.0 now at most is just a beta. I think it is just
an alpha. It may change everyday. It MAY NEED 4MB RAM and some swap
space to run. It may run with 2MB RAM and 4+ MB swap space. I won't
guarantee anything about that.
But, I should say it''s much better than 1.40. And you want g++,
it's only thing you get.
H.J.
--
School of EECS Internet: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu
Washington State University BITNET: 60935893@WSUVM1.BITNET
Pullman, WA 99164 Phone: (509) 335-6470 (O)
USA (509) 334-6315 (H)
===========================FAQ======================
QUESTION: Where is the gcc 2.0?
ANSWER: It's on dec1.eecs.wsu.edu under /incoming. There are two files,
2lib.tar.Z and 2misc.tar.Z.
QUESTION: What are the contents of them?
ANSWER: 2lib.tar.Z contains cc1, cc1plus and cpp. 2misc.tar.Z contains
gcc 2.0 drivers, header files, libraries, manual pages and installation
instructions.
QUESTION: How do I install it?
ANSWER: You may have to have 4 MB ram to run it and have some swap
space (> 2MB) since cc1 and cc1plus are more than 1 MB. First do
cd /usr
tar xvofvz xxxx/2misc.tar.Z
Then read FAQ in /usr/gcc2/install. After
cd /usr
tar xvofvz xxxx/2lib.tar.Z
run the shell script "inst2.0" and apply the patches. Make sure
/usr/gcc2/bin is in your path.
QUESTION: What are the main differences with the old release?
ANSWER: Here are the features
1. gcc and g++ are in one.
2. ANSI and BSD 4.4 compatible stdio.
3. iostream for g++. It has
* Full implementation of ANSI C stdio.
* Full implementation of the streambuf layer of AT&T's
iostream library for C++.
* Full compatibility between stdio and streambufs.
and a beta version of libg++.a 2.00.
4. Libc.a are almost new. Most of glibc.a 1.00 (no network) are here.
a. ctype
b. grp
c. locale
d. posix
e. pwd
f. stdlib
g. string
h. time
Some other functions are added.
b. cvt
b. drand48
c. getlogin
d. getpass
e. mkfifo (is that supported in kernel?)
f. regex
g. ufc
h. utmp stuffs (poeigl-1.2)
These old functions are not changed very much.
a. soft math
b. math (some are new)
c. termcap
d. unistd
QUESTION: Is stdio ANSI compatible?
ANSWER: Yes, please test it.
QUESTION: Is g++ in 2.0?
ANSWER: Yes. use g++ to compile the C++ code. A beta version of
libg++.a 2.0 is here. Only thing missing is curses since I don't have
it. One test not passed is tFix24.
QUESTION: Why is size of the executable bigger than 1.40?
ANSWER: The stdio in 2.0 is based on iostream. There are some overhead.
When the shared libraries are out, it will go down. The reason for it
is g++ is part of 2.0.
QUESTION: What options can I use for gcc?
ANSWER: Read manual page, gcc.ps or gcc.man. -O3 and -O4 should work
with 2.0. Some said -O3 is the best. Don't ask me why. Try it yourself.
QUESTION: Where is the source code of the new libc.a?
ANSWER: I will release the source code after the alpha test is
finished. Please test it as much as possible.
QUESTION: Can I use gcc 2.0 to compile the kernel?
ANSWER: Yes. The 0.95 kernel is compiled with gcc 2.0. But if you want
to use gcc 1.40 to compile the kernel, you have to add a flag. I don't
remember which one.
QUESTION: Where do I put sprintk.c?
ANSWER: I have no idea. Since I borrowed it from printk.c in
linux/kernel, I just put it together with printk.c in linux/kernel.
QUESTION: How do I to compile the kernel?
ANSWER: To compile the kernel, you have to use the old gcc and
be sure the header files are compatible with the gcc 2.0. At least you
should use <linux/sys.h> and <unistd.d> from gcc 2.0.
QUESTION: Why does g++ complain?
ANSWER: You need "expr". Grab GNU shell utilities 1.6, compile it with
gcc 2.0 yourself. It is a very good testing. Most functions of in ./lib
are in libc.a, check them out. You have to modify the Makefiles, auto
config doesn't work very well. You may have to modify some files in
./src. Xmalloc.c in ./lib has to be modified to take care of
malloc (0).
QUESTION: Why do I always get "out of memory"?
ANSWER: Change all malloc (n) (calloc (), realloc ()) to
malloc (n ? n : 1)
QUESTION: Why doesn't gcc -s work?
ANSWER: I am working on it.
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From: zhao@unixg.ubc.ca (Jiansheng Zhao)
Subject: Could FAQ for linux be on each linux site?
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1992 05:40:38 GMT
It will be very helpful that FAQ for linux can be found at each linux
ftp site. As linux is getting more popular, more people will try it. We have
seen a lot of questions asked by linux beginners due to the lack of access to
FAQ.
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From: hlu@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Hongjiu Lu -- Graduate Student)
Subject: minor changes to gcc 2.0
Reply-To: hlu@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Hongjiu Lu -- Graduate Student)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1992 06:41:45 GMT
Hi,
I just added fmod.o to libsoft.a and removed modf.o from it. Here is
fmod.o in case you need it. You don't have to get new copy from dec1.
H.J.
--
School of EECS Internet: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu
Washington State University BITNET: 60935893@WSUVM1.BITNET
Pullman, WA 99164 Phone: (509) 335-6470 (O)
USA (509) 334-6315 (H)
==========fmod.o=========
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end
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From: adam@owlnet.rice.edu (Adam Justin Thornton)
Subject: Re: ftp sites...
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1992 05:57:24 GMT
Look for 2.0, at least now, in dec1.eecs.wsu.edu, in /incoming (thanks Ramesh).
It's two files, 2lib and 2misc, and since 2lib compressed is 1.2 meg, I assume
the only way to get it to linux without (ack) Kermit or something is to
dd it and then pipe that to uncompress and pipe that to tar xvf???.
Adam
--
"This howling in the distance, it's a captivating sound/ Can't tell if it's
ecstasy or pain." | These aren't Rice's opinions, just mine, thank God.
"Cat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile. Nothing left to do but :-) :-) :-)"
>Radio Free Preterition from Pig Bodine and the Whole Sick Crew | 64,928<
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From: hohndel@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.dbp.de (Dirk Hohndel)
Subject: VGA slection at bootup ...
Date: 10 Mar 92 08:15:45 GMT
Hi Linuxers,
I'm looking for the guy who wrote the VGA selection code for Linux.
Linus himself did not remember who this has done (a guy from sweden ..?)
If he reads this: please contact me !
If anyone knows his address : please contact me !
(email prefered !)
Thanks !
Dirk
--
Dirk Hohndel Lehrstuhl fuer Informatik I
hohndel@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de Universitaet Wuerzburg
Tel. 0931 / 888-5057 Am Hubland
Fax. 0931 / 888-4600 D-8700 Wuerzburg
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From: bjl@pttrnl.nl (Ben Lippolt)
Subject: Re: Uploaded pfdisk (= partition editor) to tsx-11 and funet.fi
Date: 10 Mar 92 08:01:42 GMT
Reply-To: B.J.Lippolt@research.ptt.nl
adam@owlnet.rice.edu (Adam Justin Thornton) writes:
>Does any way exist to make partitions on the second physical HD bootable?
>That's where my Linux is and I don't want to have to reconfigure everything,
>backup, reformat, restore, etc. to make it all work.
That was exactly my question two weeks ago. I didn't receive any answers,
so I reconfigured everything. I now have a small partition (4Mb) on disk 1
and my /usr and /home partitions are on disk 2. But the question remains.
Ben Lippolt.
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From: Andrew Haylett (GEC-Marconi Research Centre) <ajh@gec-mrc.co.uk>
Subject: 0.95: problem reports with disk, screen
Reply-To: ajh@gec-mrc.co.uk
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1992 11:07:05 GMT
OK, I see a few others have been having disk problems with 0.95, but I'll
throw in my experience for what it's worth. 0.95 booted fine, I've installed
it and rebuilt it a few times using the newgcc 1.4. It seems pretty stable,
with the following caveats.
(1) drive problems; both the 'Reset-floppy called' and 'Unexpected HD
interrupt' messages popped up a few times during a several-hour session.
I hardly ever got these under 0.12 (with fast floppy patches). The last
time the floppy problem occurred, I got the continuously scrolling
version, interruptable only by reboot. The last time the HD problem
occurred, it was at the beginning of a make, while cc was fetching cpp; it
obviously made it load an invalid page, since all subsequent invocations
of cpp gave a SEGV. [It would be nice to be able to somehow invalidate all
loaded pages when this problem occurs, to force reloading, although
rebooting obviously solves it.] At least in the case of the HD interrupt,
other things were going on in other VCs (perhaps causing it to miss an
interrupt?)
(2) screen problems; again, something I never got under 0.12 (patched with
virtcons). When scrolling up line by line under uEmacs (`down' key held
down), the screen contents occasionally get out of sync, and also stripes
of strange coloured graphics characters appear at random positions.
Usually, but not always, these problems are transient, and vanish when
scrolling stops. It does this in the standard 80x25 mode as well as others.
But it doesn't do it during standard scrolling, e.g. when doing `ls -lR /'.
setup: pretty standard 386SX/16, 100Mb IDE drive, 3.5 HD floppy, C&T VGA, etc.
Any light on these problems would be much appreciated. Could it be something
to do with using gcc 1.4 to rebuild, instead of gcc 2?
0.95 looks very good, with some useful enhancements; I'm really looking
forward to using the gdb/ptrace combo...
----
Andrew Haylett | Inet: ajh@gec-mrc.co.uk | Fax: +44 245 75244
GEC-Marconi Research | Tel: +44 245 73331 x.3283 | Telex: 995016 GECRES G
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