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From: Digestifier <Linux-Admin-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 94 14:13:49 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #10
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Linux-Admin Digest #10, Volume #2 Thu, 1 Sep 94 14:13:49 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: problems with NCR53C810 SCSI controler (Drew Eckhardt)
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Re: color_xterm .... again (Heiko Herold)
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Re: HELP! Intermittent connect & ARPing probs (Greg Corteville)
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Is it possible to have NFS via TERM (Zhiyun Xie)
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Re: Shutting down when running in runlevel 6 (X) ("Eric Jeschke")
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Re: Whats the best ISA video card for Linux/Xf (Peter.Leyssens)
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LINUX and OPTI chipset (Scott Cooper)
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Re: Which is better: tar->gzip or gzip->tar? (Alex Nicolaou)
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Re: Whats the best ISA video card for Linux/Xfree? (JASON NAUGHTON)
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Re: Using an Exabyte with Linux (Peter Suetterlin)
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Re: Q: NFS, Linux -> Macintosh (Darko Krizic)
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Re: SOCK_PACKET: Why not reading outgoing packets ? (Robert Sanders)
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Re: Shutting down when running in runlevel 6 (X) (Lauri Kuru)
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Re: Q: NFS, Linux -> Macintosh (Dave Platt)
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Re: Shutting down when running in runlevel 6 (X) (olav woelfelschneider)
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Re: Whats the best _CHEAP_ ISA video card for Linux/Xfree? (Dirk Eddelbuettel)
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libc.so.4.5.26 and net programs??? (Steve MacLeod)
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From: drew@frisbee.cs.Colorado.EDU (Drew Eckhardt)
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Subject: Re: problems with NCR53C810 SCSI controler
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Date: 31 Aug 1994 17:22:32 GMT
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In article <33uf7kINN2oj@kirk.ms.detemobil.de>,
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dbu <rmoehle@aramis.ms.DeTeMobil.de> wrote:
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>Hallo,
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>some days ago i tried to install my NRC-SCSI Controler. With the Slackware
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>boot disk (1.1.19 from Drew) ther was no problem with the installation.
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>But when i try to build a new kernel (1.1.47) the Kernel could not see
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>any disk or SCSI Controler.
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1. Double check that you have the NCR 53c810 driver enabled (53c7,8xx
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in the configuration options).
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2. If the configuration is correct, arround Linux 1.1.41 there were
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a few changes made to the PCI BIOS code which don't work too well on
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some systems. Try using the kernel/bios32.c from 1.1.39.
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--
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"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the
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subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have
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allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own
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downfall by doing so." -- Adolf Hitler
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From: hman@marina.dei.unipd.it (Heiko Herold)
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Subject: Re: color_xterm .... again
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Date: 31 Aug 1994 17:16:15 GMT
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In article <341cfm$ah9@sunserv.kfki.hu>,
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Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@cern.school.kfki.hu> wrote:
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)Hi,
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)
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)Ok, I haven't tried all possibilities: after setting *LoginShell: true in
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)..../app-defaults/XTerm if I type at the prompt
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)
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)> color_xterm
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)
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)the xterm comes up and it can be checked that .bashrc has been executed. Fine.
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)
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)But if one click on "Color Xterm" of the menu "Shells" of openwin, that
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)xterm doesn't seems to execute .bashrc at all!! (Of course Xterm or Rxvt
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)from the menu do execute .bashrc.)
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)
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)This "Color Xterm" menu is as follows
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)
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)"Color Xterm (7x14 font)" exec /usr/bin/X11/color_xterm -sb -sl 500
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)-j -ls -fn 7x14
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)
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)I added "-l", "-e /bin/bash -login", no use.
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)
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)Could you help me again to complete the solution of this problem?
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)
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)Best regards,
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)Jozsef Kadlecsik
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)
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That's all right: login bash reads in /etc/profile and .profile .
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Not-login bash reads in .bashrc .
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If you want both, put a . ~/.bashrc at the end of your .profile .
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If you want to find out a bit more 'bout it, check the UNIX-FAQ :)
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Bye
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Heiko
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--
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\________________/ hman@[paola][chiara][maya].dei.unipd.it \________________/
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DON'T PANIC - The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy {itself}
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PANIC - The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy MK II {Mostly Harmless}
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(perceiving the Whole Sort of General Mish Mash) [Douglas Adams]
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From: gcortevi@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Greg Corteville)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: HELP! Intermittent connect & ARPing probs
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Date: 31 Aug 1994 11:39:02 -0600
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Thanks for the replies everybody! There was a PC downstairs in the
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computer lab using the same IP address. The problem has been solved.
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--
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Greg Corteville | "We are the knights who say Nee!"
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gcortevi@nyx10.cs.du.edu | - Monty Python's QFTHG
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gcortevi@trident.lbs.msu.edu |
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---[PGP Key available via finger]------------------------------------
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From: xie@ammlsgi.magnet.fsu.edu (Zhiyun Xie)
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Subject: Is it possible to have NFS via TERM
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Date: 31 Aug 1994 17:38:10 GMT
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Is it possible to have NFS via TERM-connected network ?
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Zhiyun Xie
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xie@ammlsgi.magnet.fsu.edu
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From: "Eric Jeschke" <jeschke@cs.indiana.edu>
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Subject: Re: Shutting down when running in runlevel 6 (X)
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 12:11:16 -0500
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:I have been following this thread for a while. I used to use run level 6
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:but quit because when I started up xtrems I got strange key mappings,
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:that is whereas normaly my <- (backspace key) deletes a character back
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:it now would delete the whole line. The delete key did yhe same thing.
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:I like my old keymappings but I guess I am too inexperienced to figure
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:out how to implement them in xdm. I am using the defaults as provided
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:by Slackware 2.0. I am currnetly using rl 5 and startx in my .login
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:file. I would prefer using xdm, but won't until I learn how to fix this
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:problem. I have gone over and over O'Reilly's xsindows administrator's
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:guide to no avail. I know this is a bit off topic but there seems to be
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:several knowledgeable people on this thread.
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Check out
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man xmodmap
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to learn how to remap keys under X. You can do this in your
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own .xinitrc or in the Xdm scripts.
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--
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Eric Jeschke | Indiana University
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jeschke@cs.indiana.edu | Computer Science Department
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From: leyssens@uia.ac.be (Peter.Leyssens)
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Subject: Re: Whats the best ISA video card for Linux/Xf
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Reply-To: leyssens@uia.ac.be
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 12:52:13 GMT
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In article am9@netnews.upenn.edu, hoford@tumtum.image.chop.edu (John Hoford) writes:
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>
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> I just got Linux up its on
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> a 386(33mhz). I was hoping to find a good svga card
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> to run. Right now I use a generic vga card.
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> I see some accelerated cards are supported.
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> Which ones perform the best (used the most by X)?
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>
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> Even subjective evaluations (comparisons) welome.
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>
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Try a card with a Mach32 chipset, they're about $350 (over here in
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Europe), they're lightning fast and you can even find them on ISA !
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Peter.
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From: scooper@netcom.com (Scott Cooper)
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Subject: LINUX and OPTI chipset
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 17:20:56 GMT
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Yggdrasil Summer 94 works fine on my motherboard...
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Scooper@netcom.com
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--
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scooper@netcom.com
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From: anicolao@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Alex Nicolaou)
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Subject: Re: Which is better: tar->gzip or gzip->tar?
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 13:22:32 GMT
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arnholt@mayo.edu (Jeff Arnholt) writes:
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>For best compression on previously uncompressed files,
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>which is better: tar * | gzip, or gzip * | tar?
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>IE, is it best to tar compressed files, or compress
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>a tar file of uncompressed files? Does gzip -r * work
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>better than either solution?
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>I'm looking for the most robust method to archive groups
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>of files.
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For two reasons it should be better to tar first and compress later.
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If you zip first, each zip file will have some overhead that you could be
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repeating hundreds of times. And tarring all the zip files will introduce
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tar's overhead (uncompressed) between every file. The other way, all of
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tar's header info gets compressed, you don't hvae zip overhead, and you
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should also be able to achieve better compression on the one big file than
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you can individually on little files (VERY true for tiny files).
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Between tarring then zipping versus using zip to contain the directory
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structure I have no idea which is better - why not just try it on "typical"
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files?
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alex
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From: jnaughto@ee.ryerson.ca (JASON NAUGHTON)
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Subject: Re: Whats the best ISA video card for Linux/Xfree?
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Date: 1 Sep 1994 14:00:11 GMT
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John Hoford (hoford@tumtum.image.chop.edu) wrote:
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: I just got Linux up its on
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: a 386(33mhz). I was hoping to find a good svga card
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: to run. Right now I use a generic vga card.
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: I see some accelerated cards are supported.
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: Which ones perform the best (used the most by X)?
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: Even subjective evaluations (comparisons) welome.
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: John
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: John D. Hoford
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: email: hoford@tumtum.image.chop.edu
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I've got the Trident SVGA 8900c, for good reasons keep well away from
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this manufacturer. It maybe cheap but not worth it....
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Jason Naughton
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From: ps@kis.uni-freiburg.de (Peter Suetterlin)
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Subject: Re: Using an Exabyte with Linux
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Date: 1 Sep 1994 13:18:42 GMT
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root (root@kirk.in-berlin.de) wrote:
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: Hi together,
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: I just have had a little bit of luck and got an used Exabyte streamer
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: from my company (for nearly no $$ :-) ).
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Lucky one!
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: Unfortunately it seems that linux don't like such a beast :-(
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: I plugged it in and everything seems to be okay. While booting the
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: kernel tells me Target 5 Exabyte Model: EXB-8200 Rev. 4.25 SCSI-1
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: But when I try to access the device nothing happens.
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: The streamer had been connected to an old SUN but I haven't got any
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: documentation. Did I miss something or doesn't Linux support Exabytes?
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Have you tried booting Linux with an Tape inserted into the drive? This
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cured the problem for me. Without a tape, Linux wouldn't see the drive
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upon boot. But don't ask me why (btw, it was an EXB-8500 SCSI-2)
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Peter
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================== Peter 'PIT' Suetterlin =================
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| Kiepenheuer Institut | Sternfreunde Breisgau e.V |
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| fuer Sonnenphysik | |
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| 0761/3198-210 | 0761/71571 |
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-<ps@kis.uni-freiburg.de>-<suettpet@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>--
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From: dekay@xtac.tg.sub.org (Darko Krizic)
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Subject: Re: Q: NFS, Linux -> Macintosh
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Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 20:18:46 GMT
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> >Has anyone succesfully mounted a Linux disk on a macintosh via a network?
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> >What should I do on the linux-side of the connection and what program
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> >should I use on the macintosh-end?
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> I have done so using Intercon's NFS/Share software. Good stuff. They
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> are in Herndon, VA.
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Right. NFS/Share is the only NFS-Client for the Macintosh as far as I know.
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It is fully transparent to the user.
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Darko Krizic Langweidenstrasse 37 60488 Frankfurt 49 69 7893687
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dekay@xtac.tg.sub.org MIME 4e71 "Powered by Motorola"
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From: rsanders@mindspring.com (Robert Sanders)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Re: SOCK_PACKET: Why not reading outgoing packets ?
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Date: 30 Aug 1994 17:46:26 GMT
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On 30 Aug 1994 16:25:00 +0100, morten@gurke.allcon.com (Morten Jammer) said:
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> Why can the socket typ SOCK_PACKET only read outgoing packets
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> when the interface is in promiscious mode ?
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In later kernels SOCK_PACKET does return outgoing packets. I can't
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give you the exact patchlevel, but I think it's in the late 1.1.30
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series. Check the kernel changelogs generously posted by Russ Nelson
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(also available from nic.funet.fi:/pub/OS/Linux/PEOPLE/Linus/v1.1).
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-- Robert
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From: lkuru@snakemail.hut.fi (Lauri Kuru)
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Subject: Re: Shutting down when running in runlevel 6 (X)
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Date: 01 Sep 1994 07:37:06 GMT
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Reply-To: lkuru@snakemail.hut.fi
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In article <341npa$gcu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> sharpe@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (sharpe randall k) writes:
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>delemar@galet.icp.grenet.fr (Delemar ) writes:
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>
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>I have been following this thread for a while. I used to use run level 6
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>but quit because when I started up xtrems I got strange key mappings,
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>that is whereas normaly my <- (backspace key) deletes a character back
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>it now would delete the whole line. The delete key did yhe same thing.
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>I like my old keymappings but I guess I am too inexperienced to figure
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>out how to implement them in xdm. I am using the defaults as provided
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>by Slackware 2.0. I am currnetly using rl 5 and startx in my .login
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>file. I would prefer using xdm, but won't until I learn how to fix this
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>problem. I have gone over and over O'Reilly's xsindows administrator's
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>guide to no avail. I know this is a bit off topic but there seems to be
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>several knowledgeable people on this thread.
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>
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>Thanks.
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You can use the keymap that kernel uses for X, too. I installed
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Slackware 2.0 a while ago, and found a mk_modmap script in
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/usr/lib/kbd/keytables. I said: mk_modmap sf-lat1.map > ~/.Xmodmap
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(might be .xmodmaprc on some distributions) and it works fine.
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I didn't catch the beginning of this shutdown thread, but I got advise
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on shutting down from runlevel 6 and this is how I did it:
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I edited my /usr/lib/X11/xdm/Xresources to look like this
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============== 8< ====================
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xlogin*login.translations: #override\
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Ctrl<Key>R: abort-display()\n\
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<Key>F1: set-session-argument(failsafe) finish-field()\n\
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Ctrl<Key>Return: set-session-argument(failsafe) finish-field()\n\
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<Key>Return: set-session-argument() finish-field()\n\
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Ctrl Alt <KeyPress> Delete: abort-display()
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xlogin*borderWidth: 3
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...
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============== 8< ===================
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Essentially I added the Ctrl Alt <KeyPress> Delete -line, which means
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that when I'm at the login-screen, I press ctrl-alt-del twice in a row
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and the system reboots (or whatever it says in your /etc/inittab...
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I like it this way.
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Regards,
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qru
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lkuru@snakemail.hut.fi
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From: dplatt@3do.com (Dave Platt)
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Subject: Re: Q: NFS, Linux -> Macintosh
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 04:27:42 GMT
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>> I have a similar question. Is there a project in the works to
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>>support the mounting of a Macintosh disk? (f.e. like mounting a MSDOS
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>>floppy) Right now, whenever I want to transfer data between MAC/PC disks
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>>I have to find a Mac with a superdrive and transfer to an MSDOS disk,
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>>and _then_ take it to Linux. I was just wondering if at a time loooong
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>>down the road if Linux will have mount support for other OS's.
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>
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>Doubt it. Mac disks!
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Well, in a very important sense, Linux already does have support for
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mounting disks written in different or entirely-novel formats. It's
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called "userfs". It's not a part of the standard kernel; it's a
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separate loadable module which requires almost no kernel hacking at all
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to install (a patch to one file of exportable symbols).
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I used userfs-0.8 (recently released) to mount a CD-ROM written in the
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3DO "Opera" format. Using one of the example userfs clients as a
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starting point, it took me one day of coding to complete the job, mount
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an Opera CD-ROM, export it via NFS, and automount it from my Sun
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workstation. About half of this one day was waiting for my 386SX-16 to
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compile the code (g++ is a slug on this machine!).
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Writing a client for the Mac HFS format would be more work, in part
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because it'd be necessary to figure out what to do with the Mac's Finder
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information and resource forks. Probably make 'em appear as a set of
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AppleDouble directory hierarchies, I'd think (although AppleSingle, CAP,
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or MacBinary would be equally possible, although not equally easy to
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implement).
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Doing read/write support for HFS would be trickier. Doing it _right_
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would be trickier yet.
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Doing _any_ support for the Mac's 800k disk format is probably
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infeasible... I believe it uses a form of MFM encoding that the
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electronics in a standard 1.44-meg floppy drive will not handle.
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It took me another day to hack together a way to run CAP on my Linux
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machine (it uses a modified UAR as a network interface, and tunnels IP
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packets to a Sun running UAR which then routes them to EtherTalk). It's
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an ugly approach, but it does work with a stock Unix kernel and network
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stack.
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At some point (i.e. about 30 seconds after the guys out there get a
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PowerPC port of Linux working) it'll be highly desireable to be able to
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mount Linux and HFS partitions from a single hard drive. I believe
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it'll happen, although I'm not going to bet on when.
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--
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Dave Platt dplatt@3do.com
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USNAIL: The 3DO Company, Systems Software group
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600 Galveston Drive
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Redwood City, CA 94063
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From: wosch@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (olav woelfelschneider)
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Subject: Re: Shutting down when running in runlevel 6 (X)
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Date: 1 Sep 1994 08:12:49 GMT
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Maxim Spivak (maxims@ucsee.EECS.Berkeley.EDU) wrote:
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: When I what to shut down, I go superuser in one of the xterms, and say
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: shutdown -h now
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: at which point it ends up killing X and goes back to the console screen
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[...]
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Well, this is nasty. You start shutsown from an xterm, and shutdown starts
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to kill everything. As soon as it kills the X server or the xterm or
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the shell running in the xterm, it pulls its own ground away and dies.
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So your system gets no shutdown, but can maybe end up in a state where
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some important processes are already killed.
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Now, linux gurus, I know, one has to issue shutdown from a vc to avoid this,
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but, Isn't there a way to do this also from X? Would be very comfortable...
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Maybe shutdown could fork(), detach from all open files and could start
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to kill everything until itself is only left. The output could automagically
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go to /dev/tty1.
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I am too busy to do that on my own right now, but I think lotsa people will
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kiss your feet (: if you (yes, you!) have enthusiasm to do it (:
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Please, don't tell me about accidentally halting the system... I think if
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someone accidentally types shutdown, it's his own fault, and he can still
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use the old method if he wants to.
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--
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/======================================\
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| Olav "Mac" Woelfelschneider |
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| wosch@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de |
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+--------------------------------------+
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| I refuse to grow up, |
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| I don't want to lose my humor... |
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From: eddelbud@qed.uucp (Dirk Eddelbuettel)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Re: Whats the best _CHEAP_ ISA video card for Linux/Xfree?
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Date: 1 Sep 1994 14:06:39 GMT
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Very well that the ATI Mach32/Ultra/Ultra Pro are advocated for, but could
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someone give me hints for the best performance/price ratios ?
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My system is a 486DX-33, 16MB, ISA bus, 1024x768 interlaced 14'' SVGA
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monitor so I am looking for an accelerated card that gives me 800x600 and
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1024x768 (but not more, no 2 MB cards needed) and that will be faster than
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the 512 kB Oak Oti67 it will replace (this one sucks: TOTAL 3012.000000
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xStones reported by xbench).
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I am looking for something like
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Orchid Fahrenheit 140 USD
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STB Powergraph 125 USD
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STB Horizon 95 USD
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cards with Cirrus Logic 5428 chips price ?
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Comments, recommendations, flames, welcome under <edd@qed.econ.queensu.ca>
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Bye,
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--
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Dirk Eddelbuettel
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<eddelbud@qed.econ.queensu.ca>
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From: smacleod@sparc.uccb.ns.ca (Steve MacLeod)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: libc.so.4.5.26 and net programs???
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Date: 1 Sep 1994 01:14:31 -0300
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I am setting up a 386/40 box 4MB RAM to run Linux. I originally grabbed
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the Slackware distribution from sunsite.unc.edu. I applied patches to rel
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1.45 and am now runnig 1.48. When I use telnet or ftp however I get:
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libc.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl24 => /lib/libc.so.4.5.26
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neither telnet nor ftp proceed past this point. Where would I get an
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updated copy of the net programs?
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Thanks
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Steve
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--
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====================================================================
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Steve MacLeod Microcomputer Specialist (902)539-5300x625
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Computer Centre University College of Cape Breton
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Sydney, N.S. Fax (902)562-0119 Canada B1P 5S2
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