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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 94 13:13:41 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #725
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Linux-Misc Digest #725, Volume #2 Thu, 8 Sep 94 13:13:41 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Monitoring TTY's .. (Alpha / Omega Enterprises)
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Re: Dialin/dialout modem setup for UUCP etc. (Tracy R. Reed)
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Used DMA-Channel (Ulrich Bretthauer)
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*** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07) (Ian Jackson)
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Re: atdisk2 patch for kernel-1.1.47 or newer.
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Re: Linux is a GNU system and the DWARF support (Alan Cox)
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SW for AVer framegrabber (Nicki Goetze)
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Re: BOCA 8 port NIGHTMARE !!! (Rob Janssen)
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term and tia (Paul Larson)
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Re: Possible lpd/printcap bug (Josef Dalcolmo)
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Re: Linux is a GNU system and the DWARF support (Michael I Bushnell)
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Re: Linux is a GNU system and the DWARF support (Matt Welsh)
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Pine 3.90 (Benjamin Alman)
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Re: Nachos anyone? (Alan Cox)
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Re: gcc 2.6.x upgrade (Alan Cox)
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Re: Setting up term for everyone on system. (David Kastrup)
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My disk layout (was Re: OS/2 vs. OS/2 for Windows) (Tim Smith)
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From: alpha@onramp.net (Alpha / Omega Enterprises)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: Monitoring TTY's ..
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Date: 8 Sep 1994 07:10:57 GMT
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Ivan Parga (iparga@toconao.usach.cl) wrote:
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: > I'm running a Linux box and would like to find out if there is software
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: > that will allow me to monitor someone's tty. We have had some problems
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: > with people trying to break system security.. it would be nice to be able
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: > to monitor and record the actions of these people live, while it happens.
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There is some software available for this, but I have found a quick
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way to monitor access is to login as that user and then press the up
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arrow key. Keep pressing it, and it will show you all of the commands
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that the particular user executed in their last session. Of course it
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will not monitor what they did in different editors, and mail programs,
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but it is better than nothing.
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Thanks,
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alpha@onramp.net
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From: treed@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Tracy R. Reed)
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Subject: Re: Dialin/dialout modem setup for UUCP etc.
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Date: 8 Sep 1994 03:20:58 GMT
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Bill Hiley (bhiley@sydney.DIALix.oz.au) wrote:
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: I want to setup the modem on my Linux machine for dialout (for UUCP) and
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: dialin (for terminal access). I have read the Serial-Howto, but I can't
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: figure out how to flip the modem between 'quiet mode' (for dialin terminal
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: access) and normal response mode so that UUCP can chat to the modem and
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: get eg 'CONNECT' type messages.
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: Some systems eg SCO have separate lines in 'Dialers' for modem initialisation
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: and re-initialisation when the UUCP session is finished, but Taylor UUCP
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: doesn't appear to support this.
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: Can I acheive what I want with the /etc/default/getty.ttySx files ?
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There is an option in uugetty that will cause the modem to be on or off
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at certain times. Look at the SCHED option in the getty man page. It will
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execute the INIT string certain times, and the OFF string at certain
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times. So if you know when your UUCP is going to be, and when dialins
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will be, you can schedule uugetty to issue a command to the modem to turn
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on quiet mode using the OFF string.
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Mr. Tracy Reed |Every artist is a cannibal.| Why did dad cry
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San Diego State Univ. |Every poet is a thief. | when I gave him
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Aerospace Engineering |All kill their inspiration | Willmaker 1.0?
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treed@ucssun1.sdsu.edu |And sing about their grief.|
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treed@tbn-bbs.com |-U2 IRC-Maelcum /me smiles |
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From: bretthau@nst.ing.tu-bs.de (Ulrich Bretthauer)
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Subject: Used DMA-Channel
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Date: 8 Sep 1994 09:59:16 GMT
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Reply-To: bretthau@nst.ing.tu-bs.de
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Hi everyone,
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I have a Problem with my hardware!
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I have a 486DX40, two harddisks with AT-bus interface
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(a WD AC2340 as master-drive and a Conner CFA 540A as slave)
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and a Mitsumi FX001D cd-rom. With MSDOS I use the mtmcdae.sys-driver
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for the cd-rom, so it has to use a free (?) DMA-channel (CH6).
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Since I started the installation of LINUX a problem with
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the DMA-mode occurs. After the partitioning and formating of the harddisks
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all DMA-channels seem to be used. Copying of files and programms with
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MSDOS leads to serious problems. In some cases I have nonexecutable
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programms, but sometimes the copying is a total failure with a
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number of corrupted files, lost chains etc..
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Does anyone know if this is a problem with the architecture of
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AT-bus mainboards or a problem with MSDOS? A Friend has a similar
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problem with his soundcard, using a DMA-channel. He had to remove it
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to install LINUX.
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Thanks in advance
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Ulrich
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From: ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Jackson)
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Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07)
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Date: 8 Sep 1994 04:04:46 -0600
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Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of
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which groups you should read and post to.
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Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux
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hierarchy. See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted weekly.
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If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently
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Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or
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from another Linux FTP site. It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce.
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In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!'
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The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of
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particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place.
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Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not
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comp.os.linux.misc.
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Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and
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that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions.
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Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in
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/pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq.
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Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other
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Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not about the future development of
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Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration -
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should you post to comp.os.linux.misc.
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Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me !
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--
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Ian Jackson <ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu> (urgent email: iwj10@phx.cam.ac.uk)
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2 Lexington Close, Cambridge, CB4 3LS, England; phone: +44 223 64238
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From: mccs3465@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu ()
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Subject: Re: atdisk2 patch for kernel-1.1.47 or newer.
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Date: 8 Sep 1994 10:18:00 GMT
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: I have recently modified the hd.c code to handle two controllers in a
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: unified way without code duplication. This resulted in a saving of
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: about 8kbytes of kernel code. I announced the code (which will become
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: atdisk2-1.0) to the KERNEL channel last week for ALPHA testing. The
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: ALPHA code can be found at the same location above. It is for the
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: adventurous ONLY!!
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What about a controller that handles 4 ide drives , not 2 controllers
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handling 4 ide drives. Ive had no luck getting this to work. It works under
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msdawg but Linux only recognizes the first 2 HardDrives, but it does report
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the info of the Ide card.
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Linux is a GNU system and the DWARF support
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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 10:43:07 GMT
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In article <34llf3$srt@hermes.synopsys.com> jbuck@synopsys.com (Joe Buck) writes:
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>certain key files always linked in, like libgcc.a and crt0.S have special
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>exceptions to avoid bringing whole applications under the GPL. These
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>statements are true of both Linux and the future Hurd. There is no
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Note the kernel syscall interface is also explicitly removed from the list.
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If I wanted to be paranoid, I'd download the dll tools generate my own
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dynamic library binding files (so they are mine not GNU's) and have a quick
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check that none of the headers used >10 lines of code. Structures then don't
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matter here (interface copyright stuff).
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>The only difference I can see is attitude: the FSF people talk about
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>software hoarders, grumble a lot but then adjust their licenses where
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>needed (example: the stream classes in libg++ moved from the LGPL to the
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The FSF seem to have a habit of trying to use their (as opposed to other
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peoples) GPL'd code as a political lever at time (eg the RSAREF thing).
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Thats a pity and detracts from the basic aim.
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Alan
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[GPL but not FSF supporter...]
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--
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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From: getgoet@uni-paderborn.de (Nicki Goetze)
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Subject: SW for AVer framegrabber
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Date: 8 Sep 1994 10:31:05 GMT
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Reply-To: getgoet@uni-paderborn.de
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Does anybody know if there's software (tools, drivers) available for all sorts of framegrabbers (esp. AVer-framegrabber)?
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I don't wanna start from scratch, or do what someone's done already...
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Thanx in advance,
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Nick
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---
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+--------------------------------------------------+
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| \\/// Nick Goetze -- |
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| (o o) e-mail: getgoet@get.uni-paderborn.de |
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+-ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------------------------+
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From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen)
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Subject: Re: BOCA 8 port NIGHTMARE !!!
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Reply-To: pe1chl@rabo.nl
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 19:42:02 GMT
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In <1994Sep7.010132.9771@tigger.jvnc.net> kupiec@tigger.jvnc.net (Bob Kupiec) writes:
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>In <Cvo467.7C3@ix.de>, hm@ix.de writes:
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>>In comp.os.linux.misc, Rob Janssen (rob@pe1chl.ampr.org) wrote:
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>>> This card is not suitable for use with modems. Get a 6-port ioAT66 instead.
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>>Or in other words: the Boca BB1004/1008 does not offer the necessary
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>>signal lines for modems. They lack DTR, DCD and friends.
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>The Boca 2by4 (4S/2P) does support modems and works well. Only bad
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>this is that each port requires it's own IRQ.
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The ioAT66 does not have that problem.
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Rob
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--
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=========================================================================
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| Rob Janssen | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org |
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| e-mail: pe1chl@rabo.nl | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8UTR.#UTR.NLD.EU |
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From: plarson@tamucc.edu (Paul Larson)
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Subject: term and tia
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Date: 8 Sep 1994 02:10:46 GMT
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I'm haveing many problems trying to get term working. I have a
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term rc file set up on both ends. When I run term, everything seems
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ok, but when I try to do a trsh, tncftp, etc... it freaks out on my end.
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It displays some garbage and says "timed out at 102 trans 1" and keeps
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doing that untill I kill it. Does anyone know of a way to fix this?
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Also, could someone please tell me where to get this tia program for dos.
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I may have to fall back on it. I can't seem to find it using archie.
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Thanks in advance,
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Paul
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btw: please reply by e-mail... thanks
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plarson@falcon.tamucc.edu
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From: josefd@albert.ssl.berkeley.edu (Josef Dalcolmo)
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Subject: Re: Possible lpd/printcap bug
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Date: 7 Sep 1994 20:00:39 GMT
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I agree. There are even examples showing the # not in the first column and
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they don't work.
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- Josef
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From: mib@churchy.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Michael I Bushnell)
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
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Subject: Re: Linux is a GNU system and the DWARF support
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Date: 08 Sep 1994 14:14:56 GMT
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In article <Cvt4Fv.Ao9@info.swan.ac.uk> iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox) writes:
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The FSF seem to have a habit of trying to use their (as opposed to other
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peoples) GPL'd code as a political lever at time (eg the RSAREF thing).
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Thats a pity and detracts from the basic aim.
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Apparently you haven't understood the basic aim of the FSF. Far from
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detracting from the basic aim, that *IS* the basic aim.
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--
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+1 617 623 3248 (H) | En arche en ho logos,
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+1 617 253 8568 (W) -+- kai ho logos en pros ton theon,
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1105 Broadway | kai theos en ho logos.
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Somerville, MA 02144 | Kai ho logos sarx egeneto,
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mib@gnu.ai.mit.edu | kai eskenosen en hemin.
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
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From: mdw@cs.cornell.edu (Matt Welsh)
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Subject: Re: Linux is a GNU system and the DWARF support
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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 14:22:06 GMT
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In article <34l5qb$dfo@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> lilo@slip-14-1.ots.utexas.edu (Dances With Geeks) writes:
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>There are licensing problems in the standard GNU approach,
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>again IMO, involving the linkage of libraries into applications. I'm not
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>saying the GNU approach is wrong, just that it's not as open as it might be.
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Sorry, but you're stuck with the "GNU approach" (whatever that means)
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because you use software and libraries covered by the GPL. Any "problems"
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perceived with GNU software applies equally to Linux.
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RMS's idea (which I have heard first-hand) is that Linux systems
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should be considered GNU systems with Linux as the kernel. This
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might be an over-generalization, but you get the idea. Linux systems
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don't use exclusively GNU software, and don't adhere 100% to the
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GPL ideal. However, the _guts_ of the system (kernel, libraries,
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all of the basic and no-so-basic binaries, and so forth) are all
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covered by the GPL. Most of these were developed by the GNU project.
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Why shouldn't GNU receive recognition for this? RMS is simply stating
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the status quo in a different way.
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The Debian Linux Association is working with the FSF in order to
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develop a good working relationship with them, as well as to
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assist each other through shared resources. Case in point: I'm
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going to Cambridge (perhaps next week) to install Debian on a machine
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on the FSF's network. The GNU project has donated the machine and
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network connectivity for Debian's use---something that we can all
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benefit from.
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Calm down. The FSF isn't the Borg. They are not out to assimilate Linux.
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M. Welsh
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From: alman@myhost.subdomain.domain (Benjamin Alman)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Pine 3.90
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Date: 8 Sep 1994 13:40:51 GMT
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Reply-To: alman@strangiato.Res.WPI.EDU
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Does anyone know where I can get Pine 3.90 for Linux?
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please respond via email, thanks!
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--
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From: Ben Alman, Internet: alman@wpi.edu, My PC:
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alman@strangiato.res.wpi.edu Linux 1.1.47 + XFree386-2.1.1, Slackware 2.0
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on an i486 DX/2-66 with 20mb RAM It's just the age, It's just a stage, We
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disengage, We turn the page... -Rush
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Nachos anyone?
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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 11:08:41 GMT
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In article <CvM501.9q4@eng_ser1.ie.cuhk.hk> hywong@cs.cuhk.hk (Jason Wong) writes:
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>Robert Wesley Bingler (rwb3y@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU) wrote:
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>> Has anyone ported/compiled nachos operating system code to Linux?
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>> It is said to compile under FreeBSD etc. I am working with version 3.2.
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>Hi, I also want to know the answer. Do I need to install BSDs in order to compile it?
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I've never used nachos, but SPIM (another mips simulator), gcc mips cross
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compilers and tools are all available from the people doing the Linux/MIPS
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port, or you can build them yourselves from gcc sources.
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Alan
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--
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: gcc 2.6.x upgrade
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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 11:10:41 GMT
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In article <34imqh$20l@hermes.synopsys.com> jbuck@synopsys.com (Joe Buck) writes:
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>The Intel port of 2.4.0 is available in the meantime, though no one is
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>supporting it (at Intel or FSF).
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And a non intel port of 2.5.8 is on some of the other archives done by some
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Linux people.
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Alan
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--
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..-----------,,----------------------------,,----------------------------,,
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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From: dak@hathi.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (David Kastrup)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: Setting up term for everyone on system.
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Date: 7 Sep 1994 20:28:44 GMT
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cws9669@ultb.isc.rit.edu (C.W. Southern) writes:
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>I want to setup term on my Linux box so everyone on my system can
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>use it. Right now I have it setup for me only. But I know that there
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>is a way set it up so more then one user can share the socket to
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>connect to the remote machine. Maybe run term as root... something
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>like that? Can anyone help.
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One rather cheap way is to to something like
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tredir 2023 23
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(you need not be root to do that)
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Anyone wanting a remote login can then say
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telnet your.machine 2023
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--
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David Kastrup dak@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
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Tel: +49-241-72419 Fax: +49-241-79502
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Goethestr. 20, D-52064 Aachen
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From: tzs@u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.setup,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.386bsd.misc
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Subject: My disk layout (was Re: OS/2 vs. OS/2 for Windows)
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Date: 7 Sep 1994 20:30:45 GMT
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[I've added a linux group and a BSD group, since this may be of interest
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to them too]
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Greg Thoman <thoman@tcad.ee.ufl.edu> wrote:
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> Here's my curiosity question of the day: suppose I have two
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>physical drives, the first with a primary partition or partions and
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>an extended partition or partitions, and the second with only extended
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>partition or partitions. I know I can install OS/2 into an extended
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>partition, but can I install it into an extended partition on the
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>_second_ drive? This would mean "booting" from the second hard
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>drive to run it, which doesn't seem "intuitively obvious".
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> Will it work?
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OS/2 is happy on the second drive, although I've not tried it in an
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extended partition. Here's my current setup, which has OS/2, DOS/Windows,
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Linux, and FreeBSD:
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Drive 1 (540 MB)
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# Type Size Start Cyl
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Part 1: Boot Manager 2 meg 0
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Part 2: DOS 200 meg 3
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Part 3: FreeBSD 320 meg 410
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Drive 2 (1080 MB)
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Part 1: HPFS 40 MB 0
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Part 2: Linux 500 MB 1023
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Part 3: Linux 24 MB 2049
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Part 4: Extended 150 MB 82
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The extended partition is filled with a DOS partition at the moment.
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I'm going to delete that and make a new extended partition that takes
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up all the free space. I'll then put DOS, OS/2, Linux, or FreeBSD
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partitions in that as needed.
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The second Linux partition is a swap partition. Linux is quit happy
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living entirely in the top half of the disk, past the 1023 cylinder limit
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that plagues many systems.
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Boot manager is set up to allow booting DOS, OS/2, or FreeBSD.
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Linux is booted from DOS via the bootlin program. The config.sys
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in the DOS partition starts like this:
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SWITCHES=/F
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[MENU]
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menuitem=NORMAL, Normal DOS and Windows Configuration
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menuitem=LINUX, Linux Bootstrap
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menuitem=TLINUX, Linux Bootstrap (test kernel)
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[LINUX]
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SHELL=C:\BOOTLIN.COM LINUX
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[TLINUX]
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SHELL=C:\BOOTLIN.COM TLINUX
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[NORMAL]
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...regular DOS config.sys stuff goes here...
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The "SWITCHES=/F" tells DOS not to wait three seconds displaying that
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"Starting MS-DOS" message before it continues processing config.sys
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(I bet a lot of people thought that it was doing something profound
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at that point, like calibrating timers or something...nope! It's
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just giving you time to admire that message!)
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Backups are currenlty handled by Linux and my Macintosh. Since Linux
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can read DOS and OS/2 partitions, I do backups by making a compressed
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tar archive from Linux, and then I ftp that to my Mac, where it can
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either just sit there, or get copied to tape, depending on what my
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disk usage is like on the Mac. I haven't done enough with FreeBSD
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to warrant doing a backup, but I'll probably back it up when needed
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the same way, except I'll do it from FreeBSD rather than from Linux.
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Here are some tips. First, when you are thinking of installing multiple
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operating systems, make a chart that answers the following for each OS:
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1. Can it live on the second disk? If not, can it at least be
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mostly there, or must is be all on the first disk? (Answers:
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OS/2, Linux can live on the second disk, I don't know about
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DOS. I suspect that FreeBSD wouldn't mind, but the installation
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script refused to consider the possibility).
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2. Does it need a primary partition, or can it live in an
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extended partition? (Answers: I believe that OS/2 and Linux
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can live in extended partitions, although I gave them primaries.
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I think DOS needs to boot from a primary. I don't know about
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FreeBSD).
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3. Does the OS care about cylinders past 1023? (Answers: Linux
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does not. I don't know about the others).
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4. How can it be booted?
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Linux seems to be the most flexible. It can live anywhere, doesn't care
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about cylinder limits, and can be booted in many ways (e.g., make it active,
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boot it from boot manager, install LILO (which has a zillion configurations),
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or boot it throught DOS).
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The boot issue is one to watch out for. Even if the OS has no trouble
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with extended partitions or the second disk or living past 1023, the
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boot code might. For example, boot code that uses BIOS probably can't
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deal with an OS that lives past 1023. You'll need to put a small boot
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partition for that OS somewhere that meets the requirements of the boot
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program, or make other arrangements (e.g., like I do with bootlin).
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One more thing to watch out for. If you are installing multiple operating
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systems, you've probably got an fdisk from each one. You really should
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only install an OS in a partition created by the OS's fdisk. I created a
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DOS partition from Linux. DOS likes to have its partitions start on a
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track boundary (e.g., the rest of the track that contains the partition
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map is not used). Linux doesn't care where they start, and so Linux
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fdisk by default does *NOT* skip to the start of the next track. I'm
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not sure quite what happened next, but I somehow was able to xcopy from DOS
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all my files into that new partition, repartition my first disk (the new
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partition was on the second), and then boot DOS from a floppy with the
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intention of restoring all those files I had copied to the second disk,
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and only then did DOS decide that it did not like that second disk.
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(I figureout out what was wrong, and was able to fix things by simply
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changing the partition map so that it said the partition started at a
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track boundary, and then shifting the whole filesystem up by 62 blocks.
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This sort of thing is not for the timid. I learned to respect that warning
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in the Linux documentation about only using Linux fdisk for making Linux
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partitions!).
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--Tim Smith
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