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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 94 13:13:23 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #745
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Linux-Misc Digest #745, Volume #2 Mon, 12 Sep 94 13:13:23 EDT
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Contents:
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POSIX threads for Linux :Wanted (Umesh Soni)
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Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? (Richard Ward)
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Re: DOOM linux with TERM (Alan Cox)
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Re: Installing a new kernel on the Slackware Boot disk! (Olav Kvittem)
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Re: Linux DOOM is very impressive! (Mark A. Davis)
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Re: Horrific bug in DOOM! (Mark A. Davis)
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Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? (Mark A. Davis)
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Re: doom ??? (Mark A. Davis)
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Re: Linux DOOM for X released (Mark A. Davis)
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Re: Linux DOOM is very impressive! (Jim Sun)
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Ygg Fall Release Problems (eruck@rdr.com)
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Yggdrasil FTP site (eruck@rdr.com)
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Can't Run Doom!! (Nicholas J. Leon)
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Re: Smallest Linux Distribution (Larry Doolittle)
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Re: Linux DOOM for X released (Jim Sun)
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Re: DOOM and Linux (Corey Brenner)
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From: U.Soni@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Umesh Soni)
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Subject: POSIX threads for Linux :Wanted
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Date: 12 Sep 94 12:06:29 GMT
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Hi all,
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I am considering installing Linux on my PC at home and have had no prior
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experience with it. A major factor in deciding to go ahead, would be the
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availibility of an implementation of POSIX threads for Linux.
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Can someone can point me in the direction of a site that contains POSIX threads
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for Linux so that I can investigate further?
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Thanks in advance.
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====================================================================
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Umesh Soni
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Dept. of Computer Science
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University College London tel. : +44-71-387 7050 ext.3701
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Gower Street fax : +44-71-387 1397
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London WC1E 6BT email: U.Soni@uk.ac.ucl.cs
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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
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From: rrward@netcom.com (Richard Ward)
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Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 07:34:47 GMT
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In article <davenagyCw05y3.4vs@netcom.com> davenagy@netcom.com (David Nagy) writes:
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> Jeez, everybody should get a clue... All this doubletalk about
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>electron drift when it's OBVIOUS that the problem is that his speakers
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>are too far away from his head... The speed of sound, remember? And you
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>guys are worried about the speed of electrons, sheesh. <g>
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> I'm sure if he used headphones the problem would disappear. (As long as
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>he didn't use one of those curly headphone cord extenders....)
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>
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> Dave Nagy
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Let's not forget that large headed people will hear a definite lag due to the
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extra length of their auditory system. You wouldn't believe how long it can
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take sound to get through the ears of extremely large headed people! Even
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normal headed people with large ears are having SFX lag time problems. Why,
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Ross Perot gave up DOOM because it took a week for the sounds to find their
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through his ears.
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Richard
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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom,comp.os.linux.help
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: DOOM linux with TERM
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 12:07:28 GMT
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In article <CvvKLp.CzC@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> mdrejhon@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Mark Rejhon) writes:
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>TIA is a program that you run on the remote shell account to emulate a
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>SLIP / PPP server. You simply run your Linux/unix/DOS/Windows SLIP/PPP
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>software on your local end.
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>It supports TCP and UDP (not ICMP). I hear that Linux DOOM uses only
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>TCP and/or UDP so it should work with TIA. You can have a free
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>trial of TIA. Get documents from FTP or WWW at marketplace.com ....
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Why not just use TERM which is free.
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Alan
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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From: oak@tikneppen.uninett.no (Olav Kvittem)
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Subject: Re: Installing a new kernel on the Slackware Boot disk!
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 13:43:34 GMT
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In article <OAK.94Sep11200957@domen.uninett.no> oak@domen.uninett.no (Olav Kvittem) writes:
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From: robert@plasma.apana.org.au (Robert Kroes)
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...
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I would like to know how I can create a Slackware boot disk (the one used
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to install Linux from scratch) and install a kernel of my choice...
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Why? So I can make use of an alpha network driver to perform an NFS install
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and save copying 100+ MB of Slackware 2.0 on to floppies :-)
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I've formatted a diskette with "fdformat",
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added my kernel with "dd if=/zImage of=/dev/fd0",
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created a ramdisk with "rdev -r /dev/fd0 1440",
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and changed the root file system with "rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/ram" (I think :-)
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The bit I can't work out is how to tweak it so it asks for the ROOT disk,
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and copies that filesystem to the ramdisk, after the kernel has loaded...
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Done the same thing execept that I did "rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/fd0".
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After boot the system ask for the root diskette, but when I insert it
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I get errormessages like 'IO-error on /dev/fd0' and 'could not read
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masterblock'.
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It turned out that just using the available 'make zdisk' for the
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kernel did the job of adjusting the kernel to handle the floppy root.
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remember to adjust the ROOT_DEV in the Makefile or manually run the
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commands. (Thanks to Per Arne Moi).
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I am however still not able to make the kernel load the ramdisk from
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the root-disk :
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I did 'rdev -r /dev/fd0 1440'.
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Olav
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--
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Olav Kvittem : UNINETT A/S
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RFC Address Olav.Kvittem@uninett.no
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OR Address C=no;ADMD=" ";PRMD=uninett; O=uninett;S=Kvittem;G=Olav
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Postal Address Box 6883 N-7002 Trondheim
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Phone +47-7-596981 +47-7-596450(FAX)
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Description Network Manager
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"Networking needs neat working - Nettverk er nette verk !"
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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
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Subject: Re: Linux DOOM is very impressive!
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 12:30:03 GMT
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baart@Simplex.NL (Rene Baart) writes:
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>I just ran DOOM on my 386/40 with a cheap (ISA) Cirrus VGA card.
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>I expected horrible performance, but it's only
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>a little bit jumpy, like a DOS game over a slow modem line.
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>DOOM runs just as it would under DOS, only now in an
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>X-window. Due to the small window size, the image is even somewhat
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>sharper now.
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>All in all, this is something no Linux/X user should be without.
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>Even without high-end equipment, you really should see this!
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I beg to differ- it flies under MS-"DOS" here on a 486 33 DX with an ISA
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16 bit Orchid Prodesiger II ET4000, 16MB RAM. Under Linux it crawls at
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about 1 frame every two seconds. I don't think the requirement for
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faster video cards is a joke.
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--
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/--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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| Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
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| Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems | mark@taylor.infi.net |
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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
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Subject: Re: Horrific bug in DOOM!
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 12:31:53 GMT
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billw@starbase.neosoft.com (Bill West) writes:
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>Steven Pritchard (spritcha@nyx10.cs.du.edu) wrote:
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>: marks@schooner.sys.hou.compaq.com (Mark Stockton) writes:
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>: >Seems that when exiting the Linux version, you are prompted to
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>: >"...quit to DOS?". What a blood curdling thought! Isn't it time
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>: >we put a rating system in place for these shareware games?
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>It could have been worse, you could have actually exited to MSDOG!!!!
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Linux is DOS. DOS stands only for "Disk Operating System". Most all
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operating systems are DOSes. It did not read MS-"DOS", which is a
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different story all together.....
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--
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/--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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| Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
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| Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems | mark@taylor.infi.net |
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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
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Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 12:38:14 GMT
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sspivack@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stuart C Spivack) writes:
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> I really hope that you are kidding. I'd hate to think that our
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>fine educational system is producing people so stupid that they can't
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>recognize HUMOR. I thought that the "Get shorter cables" comment was
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>actually amusing.
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Yeah, really..... I thought it was cute too....
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> In any case, I'd have to check my physics book for exact
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>numbers, but I've got a grasp on the general theory. First, it
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>doesn't really matter how fast the electrons are moving "along the
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>cable." What matters is the speed of the electic field. It does move
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>pretty darn close to C. Second, while the electrons are jittering
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>back and forth and bumping into one another, they do make progress in
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>the direction of the electric field. The rate, electron drift speed?,
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>is much slower than C - in fact muhc slower than .1 C.
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>Gee, I hope I'm right.
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Yep. Only one modification, the electrons only generally make progress
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moving in one direction if the current is DC; if it is AC, they don't
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make all that much progress before being shoved the other way :)
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Modifying the length of the cable will have an effect, although unnoticable.
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Thickening the cable will reduce resistance, but not effect speed.
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Now back to humor!
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--
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/--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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| Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
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| Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems | mark@taylor.infi.net |
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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
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Subject: Re: doom ???
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 12:40:47 GMT
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jbarrett@onramp.net writes:
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>In article <34tu0s$ng0@insosf1.infonet.net>, <jmantel@worf.infonet.net> writes:
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>> I got doom for linux..........
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>> comment: I have noticed that it does run better in twm and better still
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>> in olwm than it does in fvwm. This is unfortunate since I prefer fvwm.
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>Sounds like it would run best with no window manager at all (or any other
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>signifigantly large processes)... might be worth building a custom 'startx'
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>just for Doom.
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The window manager SHOULD not make any difference as long as you are not
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moving/resising the window or moving the cursor.... etc.
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The only thing it SHOULD effect is memory usage. (Note the SHOULD's).
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--
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/--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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| Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
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| Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems | mark@taylor.infi.net |
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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
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Subject: Re: Linux DOOM for X released
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 12:47:58 GMT
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peek@duncan.cs.utk.edu (Michael Peek) writes:
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>David Taylor (ddt@idcube.idsoftware.com) wrote:
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>: DOOM v1.666 for Linux using X is available at:
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>I wonder: If this is a specific Linux port, and no other ports are in the
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>works, it seems to me that the program would pick up a lot of speed if it
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>used the SVGALIB routines. It sure would be easier to see!
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But X is the real world of Unix. No other X86 Unix uses "SVGALIB"....
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And since is is X, it can be run remotely, client/server, standalone,
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over modem, on Xterminals, with other applications on the screen, etc.
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Although, more options are better than fewer. Since the X version is a
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reality, I would see nothing wrong with a SVGALIB version too (I opposed
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it at first, since I thought that the SVGALIB version would reduce or
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eliminate the need for an X version).
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--
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/--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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| Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
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| Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems | mark@taylor.infi.net |
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From: jsun@athena.mit.edu (Jim Sun)
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Subject: Re: Linux DOOM is very impressive!
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 16:13:25 GMT
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mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
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>baart@Simplex.NL (Rene Baart) writes:
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>>I just ran DOOM on my 386/40 with a cheap (ISA) Cirrus VGA card.
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>>I expected horrible performance, but it's only
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>>a little bit jumpy, like a DOS game over a slow modem line.
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>>DOOM runs just as it would under DOS, only now in an
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>>X-window. Due to the small window size, the image is even somewhat
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>>sharper now.
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>>All in all, this is something no Linux/X user should be without.
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>>Even without high-end equipment, you really should see this!
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>I beg to differ- it flies under MS-"DOS" here on a 486 33 DX with an ISA
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>16 bit Orchid Prodesiger II ET4000, 16MB RAM. Under Linux it crawls at
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>about 1 frame every two seconds. I don't think the requirement for
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>faster video cards is a joke.
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I hope Rene (the first poster) meant a tongue-in-cheek joke. I can't imagine
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what 386-40 running linuxxdoom is like. My current 486-25/75 with 16Mhz ISA
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(Stealth24) runs the dos version of doom about three times as fast my
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old 386-40 using the same card (on 10MHz ISA). Running linuxxdoom with the
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486-75, I can get smooth motion only at third smallest (yeah, now we are counting
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from innermost out, instead of from full-screen and inward) screen setting;
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even that's not what I'd call snappy either. Though I have setup 320x240
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Xserver resolution, I probably won't spend much time there. I can only
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hope that things will be slightly better when I get the 864-based vlb card
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to work with Xf86. But I think the long term solution probably lies with some
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kind of graphics accelearation (filled polygon and etc, too bad X doesn't
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specify shaded polygon); dumping pixmaps on Xserver probably
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is not the way for X-based games.
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I'm not ranting against the port; it was an admirable effort. Maybe I'm just
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spoiled by doom on Indigo.
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Jim
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: eruck@rdr.com
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Subject: Ygg Fall Release Problems
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 13:51:08 GMT
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I purchase the Yggdrasill Fall release yesterday and can't get it to install
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corectly or for that matter it will not even run from the CD. It boots fine
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but when you do an ls at root there are no directories. The install seems to
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go extremely fast less than 5 min. As it is installing files it only copys a
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few things to a /home DIR and the /DEV dir. It also creates and copys files to
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a dir called SBIN. Butt once I login as root there are a few file there and no
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directories at all either on the HD or CD.
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I do see some sort of error fly by as it boots, somthing about UNTMP, Also it
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keeps reseting the CMOS clock and then its done. I do not see it initialize
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any daemons like in the previous release.
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I am not using a swap partition or home partition. I have 32megs of ram and a
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dedicated 420mb HD for linux. I'm using OS2's boot manager and have set the
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partition to type 83.
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I tend to think that it must not like something on my system due to the fact
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that I can boot from the disk and run it from the CD and get the exact same
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results. Yggdrasil if your out there... HELP...
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Eric
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: eruck@rdr.com
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Subject: Yggdrasil FTP site
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 14:29:48 GMT
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Is there a problem with the ftp site at Yggdrasil, I keep getting an unknown
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host from ftp.yggdrasil.com?
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From: root@tao.binary9.com (Nicholas J. Leon)
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Subject: Can't Run Doom!!
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 13:59:29 GMT
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When I try to run Doom on my Linux box I get the following error
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after I choose which scenerio I want to play:
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U_GetNumForName: SSTMINUS not found
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and then proceeds to exit.
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Does anyone know what I can do about this?
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From: doolitt@recycle.cebaf.gov (Larry Doolittle)
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Subject: Re: Smallest Linux Distribution
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Reply-To: doolittle@cebaf.gov
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 13:31:59 GMT
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David Petrou (dpetrou@po.Berkeley.EDU) wrote:
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: [ Article crossposted from comp.os.linux.admin ]
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: [ Author was David Petrou ]
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: [ Posted on 12 Sep 1994 09:09:07 GMT ]
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: Hi. I'm looking for the smallest linux distribution available to
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: install on my computer. I'm looking for the Bare Essentials only. What I'm
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: trying to do is get the kernel, /bin, cc and a few other essential tools
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: on a file system so I can play around and install all major unix programs
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: (like Xfree, GCC, Emacs, etc...) on my own to get a lot of experience with
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: unix. (Besides, it seems like a lot of fun and a good way to learn.)
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: Does such a distribution exist? If not, how would I go about doing the
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: above? It seems that I would need some time of boot disk to put a filesystem
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: on my HD and to copy over a kernel and stuff like /bin. I'm pretty clueless
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: on where I would ftp, say /bin or linux cc (or is there only a linux gcc?) so
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: I'd appreciate any pointers.
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: Thanks,
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: David Petrou
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: dpetrou@po.eecs.berkeley.edu
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Personally, I would suggest getting the Slackware "a" series and using
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that as a base. No, It doesn't have gcc, emacs, XFree, but you can add
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those independently. The "a" series does a lot of things right that
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are a little hard to clean up, or realize are wrong, until after it's
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too late. You would pick up five disk images: boot, root, a1, a2, a3.
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You have to know vi to work with these, until you find and load the
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editor of your choice. If you are on the net, I guess you would then
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add the net series - three more floppies worth - so you can bootstrap
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yourself from the new installation.
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When you go looking for programs, all the gnu software is on prep.ai.mit.edu
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and many mirrors - ftp.cdrom.com is a good one for me, YMWV. Unless you
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are compulsive about this stuff, you are better off cruising sunsite.unc.edu
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or tsx-11.mit.edu (or mirrors) for _binaries_ of several key packages:
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libc, gcc, XFree. Once you have this (or the Slackware "d" development
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series) as a base, you can get and build applications from _sources_.
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This can be educational and productive. Finally, there are some key
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_packages_ (source and binary) available specific to Linux - e2fs progs,
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util-linux, network utilities, etc. Get the README's and have fun!
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- Larry Doolittle doolittle@cebaf.gov
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From: jsun@athena.mit.edu (Jim Sun)
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Subject: Re: Linux DOOM for X released
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 16:35:29 GMT
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mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis) wrote:
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>peek@duncan.cs.utk.edu (Michael Peek) writes:
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>>David Taylor (ddt@idcube.idsoftware.com) wrote:
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>>: DOOM v1.666 for Linux using X is available at:
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>>I wonder: If this is a specific Linux port, and no other ports are in the
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>>works, it seems to me that the program would pick up a lot of speed if it
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>>used the SVGALIB routines. It sure would be easier to see!
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>But X is the real world of Unix. No other X86 Unix uses "SVGALIB"....
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>And since is is X, it can be run remotely, client/server, standalone,
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>over modem, on Xterminals, with other applications on the screen, etc.
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Concur. In fact, I found it faster to run linuxxdoom as remote xclient
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on a DX2-66 and display on my 486-25/75 than run it directly on my machine;
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even faster if the client/server relation is reversed; probably due to
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that the DX2-66 has vlb graphics, mine only ISA albeit at 16MHz (no renewed
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discussion on risks of overclocking ISA please). BTW, when running the xclient
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on the 486-25/75 (regardless of where the xserver is), I get better
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results by reducing physical memory from 24meg to 16meg; of course, I put
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the 8meg back in immediately after the experimentation, no desire to
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reduce memory just to make linuxxdoom faster.
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Jim
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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
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From: brennerc@saucer.cc.umr.edu (Corey Brenner)
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Subject: Re: DOOM and Linux
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 14:07:28 GMT
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Andreas Matthias (andy@titan.central.de) wrote:
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: Larry Mulcahy (lmulcahy@nyx10.cs.du.edu) wrote:
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: : : This was just updated and linux doom is out. If you don't have
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: : : a Pentium though I wouldn't bother wasting the ftp time. Even
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: : : in the smallest window size it ran like a dog on our 486/66
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: : : with 16M of RAM. T
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: : I just tried it today on my 486/40 and performance was quite
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: : acceptable.
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: It is even fine on a 386/40 with 8MB, if the image details are
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: set to LOW in the OPTIONS menu. As the screen resolution I used
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: a homemade 320x200 with the SVGA XFree server on an ISA ET4000.
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: I suggest "wasting" the ftp time, even if you don't have a
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: pentium ;-)
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: Ciao,
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: Andreas
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: --
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: Andreas Matthias <andy@titan.central.de>
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: Zehntenstr.9
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: D-37120 Bovenden
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: Voice: +49/551/81377
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please post your Xconfig for that resolution! :)
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Thanks,
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Corey Brenner
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