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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 94 04:13:19 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #750
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Linux-Misc Digest #750, Volume #2 Tue, 13 Sep 94 04:13:19 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: What about a votr on comp.os.linux.doom (Matt Welsh)
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Re: Slow curses - is there a better/faster curses? (Michael Engel)
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Re: color from ncurses on console (Michael Engel)
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SYBASE open library on Linux (Walter Montalvo)
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Re: What is a BogoMIP? (James Prins)
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Re: Max size of SCSI HD? (Rick Kelly)
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Doom settings ??? .doomrc copied from DOS??? (Preston William Gilchrist)
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Partitioning Question (David J Topper)
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Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? (Josef Dalcolmo)
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Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs (Terry Lambert)
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Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? (Chris Albone)
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SLIP/TCIP (SCOT ME UP BEAMIE!)
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Re: What about a votr on comp.os.linux.doom (Mark Stockton)
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Re: Yggdrasil FTP site (Adam J. Richter)
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WANTED: info and experience with double. (jeb@aloha.com)
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Re: gcc 2.6.x upgrade (Rick Kelly)
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Games Make the OS (was: Re: Can't Run Doom!!) (Pete Deuel)
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Re: What about a vote on comp.os.linux.doom (Al Longyear)
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Sony MiniDisc (Alberto Vignani)
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Re: DOOM question (Kevin Lentin)
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From: mdw@cs.cornell.edu (Matt Welsh)
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Subject: Re: What about a votr on comp.os.linux.doom
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 17:43:29 GMT
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In article <1994Sep12.123437.32051@ritz.equinox.gen.nz> grantma@ritz.equinox.gen.nz (Matthew Grant) writes:
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>The New NOISE has started. We are about to be invaded by " How do you do
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>XXX with Doom?".
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>Lets control the flood and get it out of the road before it starts!
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Quick tip: Add the following to your killfile.
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/doom/h:j
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Another quick tip: DOOM can be considered a multi-platform game.
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alt.games.doom exists. Use it.
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M. Welsh
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From: engel@numerik.fb6.uni-siegen.de (Michael Engel)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: Slow curses - is there a better/faster curses?
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:44:22 GMT
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James Deibele (jamesd@teleport.com) wrote:
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[ lots of text deleted ]
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: elvis is a pretty faithful implementation of vi although it's noticeably
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: slower in screen I/O than vi on a SPARC. And that's when I'm only the
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: user on the linux box and there's nothing else happening on it. And
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: with relatively small - 400-line - programs.
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: Console output under Linux was very quick and I'm sure X performance is
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: pretty good. But curses performance is a little sluggish and adding
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: lines near the bottom of the screen is a real killer - curses seems to
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: clear the screen with blank lines <then> adds the new text.
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This seems to be an error in ncurses-1.8.5 :-(
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I did experience exactly the same problem with my curses-based menu system.
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Things are still worse: Under some circumstances, ncurses fills the screen
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with another color than the background color...
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In most other cases, I experienced that ncurses is about twice as fast as
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SCO System V curses, at least on the console and on newer serial terminals
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like a DEC VT-420/510. I didn't try it on a VT100, though ...
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Btw, did you check that your terminfo entries are OK ? This has caused me
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lots of trouble on some other versions of Unix.
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: I know that curses and terminals are going the way of the dinosaur but
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: like the dinosaur they're going to take a long time to die. We were
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: looking at what it would cost to outfit our very small office with a
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: PC/Mac/Unix solution that ran under Windows, MacOS, and UNIX and decided
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: we could live with a curses interface.
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Well, I have a Mac, a Sun-3 (with X) and a Linux box standing around here.
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I am getting most work done when using the Linux console or the QVT-101
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text terminal...
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: But it would be nice if it were a little quicker. Is there a
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: replacement curses out there somewhere? I checked the FAQs, How-Tos,
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: and Meta-FAQ and didn't see a word about curses.
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There is another version of curses out there, I think it's called PCcurses.
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I remember having compiled it under SunOS, there was a Unix makefile included.
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Sorry, I don't have it anymore. Ask archie.
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: Thanks!
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: --
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: jamesd@teleport.com "Slowly cursing he deleted the word"
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Michael Engel (engel@numerik.fb6.uni-siegen.de)
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From: engel@numerik.fb6.uni-siegen.de (Michael Engel)
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Subject: Re: color from ncurses on console
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:49:04 GMT
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Greg Jarman (amigo@Deakin.Edu.Au) wrote:
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: Is there some trick to this?
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No, not as far as I remember...
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: Do I need to hack up the console termcap entry, or is it something
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: more sinister?
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You can use the usual COLOR_PAIR semantics on Linux. Did you remember to
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call start_color() after initscr() ???
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If you want to display effect like bold, underline etc. as colors on the
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Linux console, you must redefine the terminfo (ncurses does NOT use termcap)
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entries for these effects.
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As far as I remember, the Esc sequences for color are
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\E[30m --- \E[39m for foreground color and \E[40m --- \E[49m for background.
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: Thanks,
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: Greg.
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Michael Engel (engel@numerik.fb6.uni-siegen.de)
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From: walterm@netcom.com (Walter Montalvo)
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Subject: SYBASE open library on Linux
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 03:14:43 GMT
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Is it possible to run isql on Linux using DOSEMU? Has
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anyone done this?
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From: zodiac@linet01.li.net (James Prins)
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Subject: Re: What is a BogoMIP?
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 00:15:02 -0400
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A mip can either stand for one of the following:
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Millions Of Instructions Per Second
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or
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Meaningless Indication Of Processor Speed
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From: rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly)
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Subject: Re: Max size of SCSI HD?
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Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly)
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 03:04:25 GMT
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Drew Eckhardt (drew@frisbee.cs.Colorado.EDU) wrote:
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: In article <CvpCEJ.3J0@odin.apana.org.au>,
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: John Saunders <john@odin.apana.org.au> wrote:
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: >Dale Elrod (dale@gate.dungeon.com) wrote:
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: >> What is the max size that a single partition on a SCSI based hard drive?
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: >> I would like to place two 9 gig drives on my ftp server but want to be sure
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: >> that Linux can handle this.
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: >Going by the partition table format you should be able to get 8 Gig from
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: >a single drive.
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: You can access terrabyte drives under Linux, using the normal
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: partitioning scheme. With Remy's changes to ext2, you can
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: even have 9 gigabyte partitions if you want.
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: >a single drive. If the SCSI controller BIOS handles it, 8 Gig should also
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: >If the SCSI controller BIOS handles it, 8 Gig should also
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: >be usable under DOS. I think Linux is limited by the partition table
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: >limitation.
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: Linux ignores the H/C/S fields in the partition tables, and only
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: looks at the 32 bit flat addresses which don't have this problem.
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: >I haven't tried it but, it may be possible to put the
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: >filesystem on /dev/sda rather than the partition /dev/sda1. Since /dev/sda
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: >is raw access to the blocks on the drive you should be able to create
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: >a filesystem of any size (up to SCSI limits) on the drive.
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: True.
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You can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the maximum partition
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size for SCSI-1 and SCSI-2 is 2 gigabytes. This can obviously be fixed
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with striped disk drivers, etc, but consider that Auspex servers, running
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SunOS 4.1.3, can only do 8 gigabytes per partition even with their volume
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management.
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--
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Rick Kelly rmk@rmkhome.com rmk@bedford.progress.com
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From: pwg7503@tamsun.tamu.edu (Preston William Gilchrist)
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Subject: Doom settings ??? .doomrc copied from DOS???
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 13:12:04 -0500
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Howdy all,
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I was trying to get my favorite key settings from DOS to work with Linux Doom,
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so I just copied my defaults file from DOS to .doomrc in my home directory
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This did not work. I am using these key settings........
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UP --> Home
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DN --> End
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TURN RT--> Page Up
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TURN LT--> Insert
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STRF RT--> Page Dn
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STRF LT--> Delete
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Does the X-Server redirect these keys in some way where it will not work??????
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Any help appreciated..........................
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Thanks , Please respond via e-mail
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Preston Gilchrist Texas A&M University, Computer Science
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E-Mail: mystic@tamu.edu http://tamsun.tamu.edu/~pwg7503/
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From: djt1@aloha.cc.columbia.edu (David J Topper)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.liinux.help,comp.os.linux.development
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Subject: Partitioning Question
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 18:09:47 GMT
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So once I set my partitions (say 250 for Linux and 270 for DOS) using FIPS
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or FDISK - is there a way to resize the Linux partition? I mean, is there a
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way other than backing up all the data on the Linux partition, deleting that
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partition, then resizing the DOS partition, then remounting the Linux partition,
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then restoring the data on it.
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I've downloaded quite a bit of stuff for installing Linux. I don't remember
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exactly, but I think it was all the a,ap,x,xd,xv and a few other disks (all the
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gnu stuff too). All tolled, I think I've got about 40+. The HOWTO says a
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ROUGH estimate is about 2.5 megs per disk. I'm just not sure how much to
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allocate for this thing. 250 seems fine but I would love to get away with 200
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so DOS would have more room to breathe.
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Thanks,
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DT
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From: josefd@albert.ssl.berkeley.edu (Josef Dalcolmo)
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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
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Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 20:51:14 GMT
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For your information:
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It's not the speed of the electrons in a cable that counts (and which is
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much smaller than the speed of light) but it's the speed of the
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electromagnetic wave, which depends on material constants and the geometry.
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In most common cables however, the signal speed is approximtely 2/3 of the
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speed of light in vacuum.
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P.S. I sincereley believe the former posts were jokes ...
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- Josef
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From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware
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Subject: Re: The snatchability factor (was Re: WABI vs
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 03:58:33 GMT
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In article <350b6b$nqm@news.cais.com> harrison@cais2.cais.com (Harrison Picot) writes:
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] In article <34rkbt$23m@kubds1.kub.nl>, J.J. Paijmans <paai@kub.nl> wrote:
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] >And it is so bloody stupid... Linux offers a new way to boost
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] >WP-sales, which is a BIG seller, and all they can do is wave with
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]
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] If WP is going to give away software, why not give it to those of
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] us that paid for the development? Like me, I have bought it, DOS
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] and Unix, since DOS 4.2. Looks silly doesn't it, they should make
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] me pay, because I did the in the past, and give it you for free, in
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] that hopes that the best selling UNIX application of all time can
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] sell more? If they give it away, they aren't going to be able to
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] sell any more. And if they give to you when I'm the one that paid to
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] see it written, are you going to give them a job? You can write your
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] own editor; WordPerfect is for business. And if you need it for
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] business, shame on you for wanting to sell another's labor as your own.
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The assumption that J.J. is making is that geeks use Linux and geeks
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have input on what software a company buys.
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This is somewhat farcical, in its assumptions:
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1) I am a geek (in the computer, not the Happy Days sense 8-)).
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2) I don't use Linux except in glancing (ie: I hardly ever compile
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any of the code from it, but I look at some of the code for
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various reasons, like writing a Linux execution class for an
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operating system I do use to run Linux binaries).
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3) I have little input on what my company buys.
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On the other hand, if I were a student running Linux, I might carry my
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prejudices into the workplace after graduation.
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At the very least, the free software would not be in a competitive market
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with non-free versions.
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On the other hand, since I can run Linux binaries on my non-Linux machine,
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one of these binaries could be WordPerfect. 8-).
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An interesting lemma.
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Terry Lambert
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terry@cs.weber.edu
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
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or previous employers.
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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
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From: yvain@bizo (Chris Albone)
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Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 13:30:30 GMT
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Richard Ward (rrward@netcom.com) wrote:
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: In article <davenagyCw05y3.4vs@netcom.com> davenagy@netcom.com (David Nagy) writes:
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: > Jeez, everybody should get a clue... All this doubletalk about
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: >electron drift when it's OBVIOUS that the problem is that his speakers
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: >are too far away from his head... The speed of sound, remember? And you
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: >guys are worried about the speed of electrons, sheesh. <g>
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: > I'm sure if he used headphones the problem would disappear. (As long as
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: >he didn't use one of those curly headphone cord extenders....)
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: >
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: > Dave Nagy
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:
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: Let's not forget that large headed people will hear a definite lag due to the
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: extra length of their auditory system. You wouldn't believe how long it can
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: take sound to get through the ears of extremely large headed people! Even
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: normal headed people with large ears are having SFX lag time problems. Why,
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: Ross Perot gave up DOOM because it took a week for the sounds to find their
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: through his ears.
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I would have suspected that he would have given up Doom
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because of the soundwaves interfering constructively inside his skull, and
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considering that there is little in the way of material to dampen sound in
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there, it must have been uncomfortable.
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have n
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: Richard
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From: kochank@news.db.erau.edu (SCOT ME UP BEAMIE!)
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Subject: SLIP/TCIP
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 03:31:34 GMT
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I have the N set installed (the TCIP), how do I set up SLIP now? I have all the necessary info (IP adresses, etc, etc) and I already configured my 'network'..
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I want to connect over the modem..
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Thanks
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Q
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From: marks@schooner.sys.hou.compaq.com (Mark Stockton)
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Subject: Re: What about a votr on comp.os.linux.doom
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Reply-To: marks@schooner.sys.hou.compaq.com
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 17:03:37 GMT
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Matthew Grant (grantma@ritz.equinox.gen.nz) wrote:
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: The New NOISE has started. We are about to be invaded by " How do you do
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: XXX with Doom?".
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: Lets control the flood and get it out of the road before it starts!
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: _/ _/ __/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ Matthew A. Grant
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: _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/_ _/ _/ 1 Domain Tce, Chch. NZ.
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: _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (03) 338-4287
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: _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ grantma@ritz.equinox.gen.nz
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You have my vote. Or maybe they should start using alt.games.doom.
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--
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Mark Stockton
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marks@schooner.sys.hou.compaq.com
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From: adam@yggdrasil.com (Adam J. Richter)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: Yggdrasil FTP site
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 18:41:16 GMT
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In article <1994Sep12.113107.8707@rdr.com>, <eruck@rdr.com> wrote:
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>
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>Is there a problem with the ftp site at Yggdrasil, I keep getting an unknown
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>host from ftp.yggdrasil.com?
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ftp.yggdrasil.com == 192.216.244.52
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--
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Adam J. Richter Yggdrasil Computing, Incorporated
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(408) 261-6630 "Free Software For The Rest of Us."
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From: jeb@aloha.com
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Subject: WANTED: info and experience with double.
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Date: 9 Sep 1994 11:15:32 -1000
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I understand double is like Stacker, but for Linux. Is this true? Does
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it work? What is the compression ratio? Opinions?
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Thanks.
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From: rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly)
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Subject: Re: gcc 2.6.x upgrade
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Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly)
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 03:28:17 GMT
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Nicholas J. Leon (root@taolin.binary9.com) wrote:
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: I remember reading a Dr. Dobbs journal a while ago about the guys at Watcom and their
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: first test of the Pentium. If I remember right, they remarked that the difference
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: between 486 ops and Pent. ops was about 15-20% when they patched their C compiler.
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: I would like to see this for myself <grin>
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This would imply that if you have an Intel 486DX2/66 then you shouldn't buy
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a Pentium/60 as the price/performance ratio will suck.
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This is a Rick Kelly rule that everyone is free to flame:
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"If you're going to upgrade your motherboard make sure that the clock speed
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of the new motherboard is >= the clock speed of your old motherboard."
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There ain't no free lunch.
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I have had some exposure to the Intel ICC compiler that optimizes code
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on the Pentium and the 486. It hates hand-optimized code and dumps core
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easily.
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Rick Kelly rmk@rmkhome.com rmk@bedford.progress.com
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From: deuelpm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Pete Deuel)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
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Subject: Games Make the OS (was: Re: Can't Run Doom!!)
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 00:38:16 GMT
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In article <351ms1$ccu@bruce.uncg.edu> root@tao.binary9.com (Nicholas J. Leon) writes:
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>When I try to run Doom on my Linux box I get the following error
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>after I choose which scenerio I want to play:
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>U_GetNumForName: SSTMINUS not found
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>and then proceeds to exit.
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>Does anyone know what I can do about this?
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You see! If you really want a popular OS, you really have to have some good
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games. Never have I seen so many learn so much about linux all at once!
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How many times do you think I was asked "Whass, uhh, I-P-uh-X?" when Doom came
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out for DOS/net (was it IPX? I can't recall--I may be blocking this!)
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Now, just to make it worse: Doom needs sound support... Oh, I've heard the
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machine guns and music and explosions galore, but I mean VOICE! That's right,
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when I'm wandering around the Doom-scape, I wanna have a Mic plugged in to my
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PAS or SB and be able to beg for my life, or try to form alliances, or the
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like...
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Jus' somethin' to chew on...
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Pete
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"Actually, I'm a lab mouse on stilts..."
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E-mail: deuelpm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu
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From: longyear@netcom.com (Al Longyear)
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Subject: Re: What about a vote on comp.os.linux.doom
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 22:33:54 GMT
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grantma@ritz.equinox.gen.nz (Matthew Grant) writes:
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>The New NOISE has started. We are about to be invaded by " How do you do
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>XXX with Doom?".
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>Lets control the flood and get it out of the road before it starts!
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Forget it. If you want to discuss doom, then go to alt.games.doom where
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it belongs.
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Al Longyear longyear@netcom.com
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From: Alberto Vignani <a.vignani@CRFV3.CRF.IT>
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Subject: Sony MiniDisc
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 03:40:24 -0400
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Reply-To: a.vignani@CRFV3.CRF.IT
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Does anybody have some info about the new Sony MiniDiscs (or whatever they
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are called)? I heard they will be 340MB magneto-optical R/W 2.5" discs
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costing less than 10$ apiece; the controller will be also very low-cost
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(400$?), maybe with floppy interface, maybe IDE.
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They are supposed to come in volume before the end of the year.
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I'm curious to know if someone heard the same rumors, and/or knows if and
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when this media will be supported by Linux.
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Bye
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Alberto
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From: kevinl@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lentin)
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Subject: Re: DOOM question
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 01:41:45 GMT
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H. Peter Anvin (hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu) wrote:
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> > WHAT ON EARTH IS DOOM ? I know it's a Wolfenstein like (seek and destroy)
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> > game, but I don't think that is ment here.
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> >
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> Check out comp.os.linux.announce. DOOM! for Linux just came out.
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That's not the answer to the question. The answer to the question is that
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YES we are talking about the Wolfenstein-like game.
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