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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Fri, 23 Sep 94 02:13:13 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #803
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Linux-Misc Digest #803, Volume #2 Fri, 23 Sep 94 02:13:13 EDT
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Contents:
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driver for NE3200 (EtherExpress 32 EISA)? (Stefan (SAM Muenzel))
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Re: How to use floppy with linux? (Mark P. Nelson)
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Re: QUESTION: FAX software for Linux/X11? (Sam Leffler)
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LINUX WANTED !!! (Franck)
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Newbie Linux Install Question (TDIMARTI@eos.bentley.edu)
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Unix file system performance survey (David Fox)
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Re: how to write man pages (Peter Jones)
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Re: Is Linux faster than Os/2? Please help. (Jeffrey Nipp)
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Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic! (Jon Gefaell)
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Re: 486 Blue Lightning -75 and linux? (Michael Mellinger)
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SMC Ultra (Eric Hausgaard)
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Re: 486 Math Not Detected on 486SLC (Bill Davidsen)
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Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic! (Hallvard Paulsen)
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Re: going back to DOS -- hard disk problems (Jay Ashworth)
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Re: Summary: SCSI and IDE working together (MS-DOS/Win & Linux) (amullick@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu)
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----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: muenzel@ceres.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Stefan (SAM) Muenzel)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin,de.comp.os.linux
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Subject: driver for NE3200 (EtherExpress 32 EISA)?
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Date: 22 Sep 94 15:49:22 GMT
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Hi folks,
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I have the following problem:
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my current employer has an EISA-machine with an (for me) unknown
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ethernet-card. It's a
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Intel EtherExpress 32Bit ( NE3200 ) / EISA
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I'm not sure this is the correct name, but i hope some guru on
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the net will recognize it.
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I looked through the kernel-sources (1.1.50), but couldn't find a
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driver for this card (or is it the ac3200 in drivers/net?).
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Does anybody know of this card, or is there already someone writing
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the driver?
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It's fairly important for us to get them working (the
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destination-machine will have 3 of them).
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Any information would be of great value ;-)
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ciao
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SAM
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--
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=============================================================================
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Stefan "SAM" Muenzel . o c , Fencing
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Theoretical Astrophysics / "#v-- --v#" is
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Computational Physics /'> <`\ fun !
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University of Tuebingen
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Auf der Morgenstelle 10 --- D-72076 Tuebingen --- Germany
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Email: muenzel@tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de
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=============================================================================
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------------------------------
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From: mpn@AlleleB.Berkeley.EDU (Mark P. Nelson)
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Subject: Re: How to use floppy with linux?
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Date: 20 Sep 1994 18:29:56 GMT
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Reply-To: mpn@alleleb.berkeley.edu
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kidd travis danemon (tkidd@hubcap.clemson.edu) wrote:
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: Hi. I have Linux installed on my hard drive, and would like to know how I
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: can format and copy to and from floppy disks. I know my drives are named
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: fd0 and fd1, but that's about it. Any help on this group or private E-mail
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: would be appreciated.
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Travis:
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You need to get started on reading the man pages for mtools and fdformat.
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There was a good article on mtools in the last Linux Journal, too.
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--
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Mark P. Nelson (mpn@alleleb.berkeley.edu)
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While I'll admit that anyone can make a mistake once,
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to go on making the same lethal errors century after
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century seems to me nothing short of deliberate.--V.
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From: sam@oxford.chez.sgi.com (Sam Leffler)
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Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.fax
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Subject: Re: QUESTION: FAX software for Linux/X11?
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Date: 20 Sep 1994 16:08:40 GMT
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In article <1994Sep20.102001.20928@news.media.mit.edu>, ereidell@media.mit.edu (Evan A. Reidell) writes:
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|> I have both Class 1 and Class 2 FAXmodems...
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|> and I can use GhostScript to generate large TIFFs,
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|> (question: is 'fine' FAX resolution exactly 196x204 dpi?)
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Fine resolution is usually meant to mean 204 dpi horizontally by 196 lpi
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vertically. (Some fax machine vendors refer to fine and super fine when
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talking about 98 lpi and 196 lpi, respectively.)
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|> and Linux/X11 on a PC can talk to the modem port (I'm using Seyon right now)
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|>
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|> so: is there any FAXmodem software out there for Linux? And how do I find it?
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Ask on a Linux news group. The most commonly known packages are probably
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gnufax (aka MIT netfax), mgetty+sendfax (which doesn't handle Class 1 modems
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and requires preprocessing to handle non-G3-encoded images), efax (handles
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Class 1 modems, like sendfax in terms of handling PS, TIFF, etc.), and FlexFAX.
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|>
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|> UNIX REVIEW Nov92 pp63-76 has reviews of ArnetFAX, DigiFax, Faximum,
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|> FaxLink, FaxTrax and VSI-Fax, but I bet they're all very expensive...
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|>
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|> If anyone can recommend the best way to send FAXes from a LinuxPC,
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|> please send me email!
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The best thing for you is a program that does what you want. Stick with the
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simplest software that'll satisfy your needs. If you plan to send many faxes
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and/or need a good client/server architecture then look at FlexFAX.
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Use archie to locate the closest ftp site with the software.
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Sam
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---
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Sam Leffler Voice: (415) 390-1269
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Silicon Graphics, Inc. Email: sam@sgi.com
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Research & Development, 6L-005 FAX: (415) 965-7824
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2011 N. Shoreline Blvd
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Mountain View, CA 94039-7311
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From: franck@davina.inria.fr (Franck )
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Subject: LINUX WANTED !!!
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Date: 22 Sep 1994 09:26:55 GMT
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Hello, everybody !
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I want to install Linux on my PC.
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I have some very simple questions :
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- What's the last version of Linux ?
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- Where can I find it ? (ftp site...)
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Is documentation about installation, administration be complete and
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clear ?
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Thanks a lot for any contribution.
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_____/ _____/
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/ /
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/_ / Franck Charlemagne.
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__/ / Projet Rodin.
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/ / e-mail : franck@inria.fr
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_/ _/ ______/
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"Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it.
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Boldness has genius, power and magic in it."
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Goethe.
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From: TDIMARTI@eos.bentley.edu
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Subject: Newbie Linux Install Question
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Date: 20 Sep 94 11:54:33 EDT
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Hi,
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I have a problem installing Linux on a 486-66 PC. The PC has
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a soundblaster SCSI-II with an NEC 3x CD-ROM. I'm trying to
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install Linux on logical drive D via CD-ROM. The boot command
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I'm using is: linux aha152x=0x340,10,1,1 root=/dev/hda5
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The problem is that the root gets mounted but hangs after I
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see this message: VFS: mounted root (umsdos filesystem) read only.
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I have downloaded all how-to files and am still unable to get
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the system to boot. Thanks in advance for any help.
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SPARSONS@BENTLEY.EDU
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From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox)
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Subject: Unix file system performance survey
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Date: 22 Sep 1994 16:27:24 GMT
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I'm considering doing a survey of file system performance. Below is
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the first draft of the result format, a few examples, and a blank form
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for responses. Let me know if you have any suggestions for changes to
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the format, and you can send me filled in forms. The results are
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based on iozone, are there other Unix disk performance measurement
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tools I should know about? Make sure you run iozone with a
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sufficiently high argument for its results to be meaningful.
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IOZONE results:
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FS Client CPU Server CPU Disk Adapter Meg Write Read Who
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-- ------- --- ------- ---- ---- ------- --- ----- ---- ---
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ext2 L1.1.45 DX33 12550N 152x 30 834189 623163 A
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NFS L1.1.45 DX66 L1.1.45 DX33 12550N 152x 10 75818 70916 A
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sun S4.1.3 SS2 30 921751 633226 A
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NFS S4.1.3 SS2 S4.1.3 20 115225 758127 A
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irix I5.2 r4k 30 2147254 1155243 A
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Key:
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FS:
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ext2 - Linux second extended file system
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sun - SunOS file system
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irix - IRIX file system
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NFS - Network file system
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Client: Operating system of client machine
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Server: Operating system of server machine (if any)
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L1.0.9 - Linux version 1.0.9
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S4.1.3 - SunOS version 4.1.3
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I5.2 - Irix version 5.2
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CPU:
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DX33 - I486DX/33
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DX66 - I486DX2/66
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SS2 - SparcStation 2
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r4k - R4000 (100 MHz?)
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Disk:
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12550N - Seagate 12500N
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12400N - Seagate 12400N
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31200N - Seagate 31200N
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Adapter:
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152x - Adaptec 1520/1522
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154x - Adaptec 1540/1542
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Meg: Number of megabytes iozone wrote and read
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Who:
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A - fox@cs.nyu.edu
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Form:
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File system:
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Client OS version:
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Client CPU:
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Server OS version:
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Server CPU:
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Disk drive:
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Disk Adapter:
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Iozone megabytes:
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Read bytes/second:
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Write bytes/second:
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Your e-mail address:
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--
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David Fox I want my HDTV! xoF divaD
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NYU Media Research Lab baL hcraeseR aideM UYN
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From: thanatos@drealm.drealm.org (Peter Jones)
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Subject: Re: how to write man pages
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Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 19:30:00 +0000
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On Tue, 20 Sep 1994 17:39:26 GMT, Lars A. Hansen (larsh@kfdata.no) wrote (in article <1994Sep20.173926.6243@kfdata.no>):
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> The subject says it all, how to write them what tool to use?
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> --- Lars ---
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>
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I use vi. [TR]roff come with 'man' macros. You mark-up your text with
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them. SVR4.2 has a nice, friendly 'man(5)' page which tells you what
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should go in and give a style guide. I don't know how this relates to
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Linux (as there is no central source of manpages......).
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-- Peter
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From: jnipp@unix.cc.emory.edu (Jeffrey Nipp)
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Subject: Re: Is Linux faster than Os/2? Please help.
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Date: 22 Sep 1994 04:38:00 GMT
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A. Rohde (exp109@modcomp.physik.uni-kiel.de) wrote:
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: In article <NMOUAWAD.94Sep15204012@barrow.uwaterloo.ca>, nmouawad@barrow.uwaterloo.ca (Naji Mouawad) writes:
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: |>
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: |> I need to write my thesis. I can either use Linux or Os/2.
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The advice you have gotten so far ranges from good to useless. The most
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important factor has not been discussed. You want to use a couple of
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unix programs to write your thesis. They have been ported to OS/2, but
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they are not native to that OS. For basic functions under the conditions
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you describe, linux will be faster at running unix applications. I have
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run the apps you speak of (except the draw package) under both systems
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and cannot tell you that one is markedly faster than the other in
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graphics mode (X or presentation manager), but because you have to run a
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BASH command interpreter to get full functionality, linux is more
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convenient to set up and use with these _unix_ programs.
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The real question is: Why would you want to write a THESIS on emax and
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latex? There are many comercial products which are much better suited to
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that particular task which will run native under OS/2 or in a dos or
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windows box under OS/2 and give much better performance than the unix
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programs you mention. Your school should have a site license available
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which would make the cost almost negligible. Describe and Ami-pro are
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two excellent OS/2 native word processors which would meet all of your
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text editing and formatting needs in a single package. If you got lotus
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smarsuite you would get the graphics package as well. WordPerfect and
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Microsoft (shudder) also have robust (more robust) word processing
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programs which run great under OS/2. Someone else wrote of using mission
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critical apps on unproven systems. The point is well taken. Why run to
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a less full featured application to develop your mission critical
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document. I cannot slam the OS on this point, as linux has been rock
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solid for us, and we do use linux for mission critical research
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applications. We also use OS/2 for mission critical apps. None of the
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mission critical apps under _my_ supervision run on anything other than
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one of these 32 bit OS. Just remember, don't choose an OS or an app,
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then figure out how to make it work for what you want to do. Get a clear
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picture of your objective (I'm guessing- to make a very large document
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and keep track of numerous footnotes, figures and associated text, and
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bibliography), and then find the best available application to perform
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that task, then get the OS to run it to your best advantage. Until
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recently WordPerfect/dos was the only legitimate choice, which you could
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run under OS/2 to get some degree of multitasking. Now, the major
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windows programs are the clear kings of this hill. Lotus says that
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AmiPro is at the same level in both Win and OS/2 versions, so this might
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suit your needs (os/2 that is). Of course, the one fly in this ointment
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is any time you have invested in learning EMACS. All of the traditional
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desktop apps will be much easier to learn and use, but if you already
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know EMACS backwards, forewards and sideways, it is probably too late to
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make a big switch, although I learned most of Word's pertinent features
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in a couple of days.
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OOPS, I started prostelatizing. I said I wouldn't do that anymore. sorry.
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-jn
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From: jeg7e@Hopper.itc.Virginia.EDU (Jon Gefaell)
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Subject: Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic!
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Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 22:06:13 GMT
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In article <7PIWkunLQ994071yn@oslonett.no>,
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Svein Erik Brostigen <serik@oslonett.no> wrote:
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>
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>What amazes me, is that there are so few from the commercial world in
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>this fora, only from the academic world. Maybe I should take that as
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>a sign telling me that this is of purely academic interest at the
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>moment.
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>
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>Now gentlemen, it's up to YOU!
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Sir,
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Your tone is rude and arrogant, your assumptions flawed,
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your experience obviously limited. When I need a hammer, I use one.
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When I need a toaster, likewise.
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>---
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>Svein Erik Brostigen, Tech. manager
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>R<>nning Netverk Systemer AS Pho. +47 22 37 04 00
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>P.O. Box 6730, Rodel<65>kka Fax. +47 22 37 03 70
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>N-0503 Oslo Cel. +47 92 03 00 74
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>Norway
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--
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-- All opinions and ideas expressed herein are solely those of the author --
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http://Hopper.ITC.Virginia.EDU/~jeg7e/ - soc.motss,rec.guns,wreck.moto,bodyart
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Jon Gefaell, Monticello Area Virtual Village | Amateur Radio Station KD4CQY
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Systems Engineer and Operations Manager | -Will chmod for Food-
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
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From: melling@sylvester.trddsk.com (Michael Mellinger)
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Subject: Re: 486 Blue Lightning -75 and linux?
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Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 17:18:21 GMT
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In article <1994Sep19.221857.16288@news.csuohio.edu> dwalker@omega.csuohio.edu (Derrik Walker II) writes:
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Does linux work with the blue lightning mother boards? And if so how
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does the performance stack up to a 486dx2/66 from amd or intel?
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Yes, I am running Linux (v 1.0.9?) on a 75MHz Blue Lightning
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motherboard and it works fine. I get something like 21.5 BogoMips.
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My machine had a 20Mhz 386 (<4 BogoMips) before I upgraded so it seems
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damn fast to me. For the price, around $330, it's hard to beat.
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-Mike
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melling@trddsk.com
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From: ueh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Eric Hausgaard)
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Subject: SMC Ultra
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Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 17:59:02 GMT
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Can someone E-Mail me some opinters to getting a SMC Ultra to work under
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Slackware 2.0 (Most Recent from ftp.cdrom.com)
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Thanx
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Eric
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ueh@sunyit.edu
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--
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------------------------------
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From: davidsen@usenety1.news.prodigy.com (Bill Davidsen)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: 486 Math Not Detected on 486SLC
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Date: 21 Sep 1994 18:09:32 -0400
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In article <35pk5t$968@cbs.ksu.ksu.edu>, Karl Buck <kxb@ksu.ksu.edu> wrote:
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:Symptoms:
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:When installing a fresh 1.1.51 kernel (gcc 2.5.8), and booting things
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:go ok until it gets to the math coprocessor test where it says
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:something to the effect:
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:
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:Math coprocessor or emulator not found
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:Giving up
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:
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:Anyone know how to fix this or why it is happening? --Karl
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The error message tells you why it's happening, your system does not
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have a math coprocessor and your kernel lacks the emulation package. You
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can correct either problem, either by using the correct kernel for your
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machine as configured, or by adding the FPU to your hardware.
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I didn't know that Slackware came with a kernel with no emulator as
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standard, since every system I have owned for the last five years or so
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has an FPU.
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--
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Speaking *from* but never *for* Prodigy
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"Pain builds moral fiber" -my dad
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"Pain hurts" -me
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From: Hallvard.Paulsen@imm.unit.no (Hallvard Paulsen)
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Subject: Re: Don't use Linux or it's to academic!
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Date: 22 Sep 1994 15:26:20 GMT
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Reply-To: Hallvard.Paulsen@imm.unit.no (Hallvard Paulsen)
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In article <7PIWkunLQ994071yn@oslonett.no>, serik@oslonett.no (Svein Erik Brostigen) writes:
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|> <Flam-bait follows!>
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It sure was!!
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|> First, please excuse my language - English is my second language,
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|> Norwegian is my first.
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Goes for me too..
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|>
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|> Now, I would never (or at least not for some years) recommend Linux to
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|> my customers as an alternative to MS-DOS or OS/2, especially not when
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|> we are talking about networks and day-to-day use of business programs.
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|>
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|> 1. There is no support for the more sofisticated disk handlings like
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|> RAID 5 or STRIPING.
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You sound like you work in the computer business. Why don't
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you make some support for this yourself? (Sooner or later
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somebody will probably do it anyway.)
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|> 2. There are no programs available that does Word-processing, spreadsheets,
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|> databases, presentation graphics and so on, as we have under MS-DOS
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|> and Windows.
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Wrong. Actually, wordprocessing was the reason why I threw away
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ms-dos and windows from my computer in the first plase. WP4windows
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just keeps crashing and I think it is mostly because of Windows itself.
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(Printer driver crashing the display driver or wp_one_file crashing
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another wp_other_file. And yes I was using version 6.0*a*). I'm
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much happier using LaTeX under linux (or any other Unix)
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Databases I don't use.
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Windows spreadsheets are not powerfull enough for my use (limited
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support for importing *large* textfiles and simply not enough
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rows and collums anyway.)
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Presentations graphics, well I guess if you are a business person
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what is awailable is pretty nice, but still not stable on
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windows and I do much better with pbmplus, gnuplot and XITE
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for image manipulation graphics and so on.
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|>
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|> 3. There is currently no easy way to interconnect to LAN Server or Netware
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|> natively, i.e. from Linux.
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I don't know much about LAN server and Netware, but in our
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environment using TCP/IP based unix machines as fileservers
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and SUN PC/NFS for the msdos/windows machines, it was
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*much* easier to get linux on the net (slackware 2.0) than
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it was using msdos. (No looking around for drivers for
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my 3com card, just install the nettwork version of
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the kernel, add tcp/ip and I was on the net.) And
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it still has not been a single crash.
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|>
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|> 4. There is no support for MCA-based machines.
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|>
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Nix.
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|> 5. There is no support for Token-Ring (some ALPHA code is floating around
|
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|> on the Net, but....)
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Don't know.
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|
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|>
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|> 6. Nationalized version of the few programs existing are not available.
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|
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Acctually I suspect that the "Nationalized" version of windows
|
||
and WP is one of the reasons why frequent reboots are so
|
||
important.?
|
||
|
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|>
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|> 7. Nationalized versions of Linux is not available.
|
||
|
||
Don't want it. LaTeX still lets me print Norwegian
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||
symbols.
|
||
|
||
|>
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||
|> 8. Support for modern graphics accelerators like Mach64, Stealth64 etc,
|
||
|> is not scheduled until maybe next year.
|
||
|
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I've got a Mach 32 card. The current version of the windows
|
||
driver is 2.3 but it still has problems with Maple V-2 for windows.
|
||
The mach 32 X server I'm using on the other hand works without
|
||
any problems (used it for over a month now.)
|
||
I guess "real" (i.e usable) support for mach 64 in windows
|
||
will be available at about the time Chicago starts shipping.
|
||
(Which means they will have to start all over again...?)
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|>
|
||
|> 9. Printed manuals and easy 'Get started' manuals does not exist.
|
||
|>
|
||
|
||
They do. In postscript format on the net!
|
||
|
||
|> 10. Support for Mulit-media is shaky.
|
||
|>
|
||
|
||
Don't you ever do any "real" work?
|
||
|
||
|> 11. Support for ISDN is not generally available.
|
||
|>
|
||
|
||
I don't think I will get any ISDN phone for quite
|
||
a while yet. I don't even think it is available
|
||
all over the contry.
|
||
|
||
|> 12. There is no disk-compression.
|
||
|>
|
||
|
||
I think there is. But how many years did it take
|
||
befor MS-DOS got such a beast?
|
||
|
||
|> I do have more points, but I think this is enough.
|
||
|> Personally, I think Linux is great and I'm runnig it on one of my disks,
|
||
|> but I also run MS-DOS and WfW 3.11 and OS/2 WARP2 BETA, OS/2 2.11, all
|
||
|> except WARP2 in native language.
|
||
|>
|
||
|> When I'm recommending some system to my customers it should be something
|
||
|> that has a proven record of durability, Netware and Lan Server both have
|
||
|> that when it comes to NOS'es. MS-DOS and OS/2 have it when it comes to
|
||
|> PC OS'es.
|
||
|
||
Windows durability is about 2 hours.. (The time between reboots.)
|
||
I guess MS-DOS is quite durable, but ohh so limited in its
|
||
capabilities.
|
||
|
||
|>
|
||
|> My customers are like all other customers, they will use wordprocessors,
|
||
|> spreadsheets and so on. They are now used to be able to see the same thing
|
||
|> on the screen as they will get on the paper. They need to import data
|
||
|> from a wide range of other products, read MAC disks etc.
|
||
|
||
Using pbmplus and postscript files in LaTeX enables me
|
||
to do everything *I* need.
|
||
|
||
|>
|
||
|> In a network environment, things like RAID 5 and STRIPING both adds to
|
||
|> security and speed.
|
||
|
||
Very possible.
|
||
|
||
|>
|
||
|> When it comes to TokenRing and MCA based machines, well IBM is the
|
||
|> biggest player in the computer world no matter what you people of the
|
||
|> .edu thinks!
|
||
|>
|
||
|
||
Well, IBM seams to realize that MCA is not going
|
||
to survive very much longer.
|
||
|
||
|> What amazes me, is that there are so few from the commercial world in
|
||
|> this fora, only from the academic world. Maybe I should take that as
|
||
|> a sign telling me that this is of purely academic interest at the
|
||
|> moment.
|
||
|
||
This is still an academic net. I don't know how many commercial
|
||
places are connected at this time. Anywhay, "nobody has ever
|
||
been fired for buying IBM is still an important phrase".
|
||
|
||
|
||
|>
|
||
|> Now gentlemen, it's up to YOU!
|
||
|>
|
||
|> ---
|
||
|> Svein Erik Brostigen, Tech. manager
|
||
|> R<>nning Netverk Systemer AS Pho. +47 22 37 04 00
|
||
|> P.O. Box 6730, Rodel<65>kka Fax. +47 22 37 03 70
|
||
|> N-0503 Oslo Cel. +47 92 03 00 74
|
||
|> Norway
|
||
|>
|
||
|>
|
||
|
||
I have to go no.
|
||
|
||
Hallvard Paulsen
|
||
|
||
------------------------------
|
||
|
||
From: jra@zeus.IntNet.net (Jay Ashworth)
|
||
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
|
||
Subject: Re: going back to DOS -- hard disk problems
|
||
Date: 20 Sep 1994 01:25:42 -0400
|
||
|
||
BOBSNYDER421@delphi.com writes:
|
||
>Well, I'm not sure if you mentioned the type of 270M disk, but-
|
||
>you cannot format an IDE drive. Low level, that is. Forget the
|
||
>DEBUG format, that is low level format.
|
||
|
||
Well...
|
||
|
||
You can low level format an IDE drive, but you have to have the right
|
||
software.
|
||
|
||
It's no longer the $3500 it was when IDE first happened; I gather Disk
|
||
Manager either 5.x or 6.x can do it for a lot of drives. But I do _hate_
|
||
drives that lie to the operating system about their geometry. Blows my
|
||
elevator seek algorithms all to hell...
|
||
|
||
Cheers,
|
||
-- jr 'avg. seek time: 20 minutes. The kids are too smart for me...' a
|
||
--
|
||
Jay R. Ashworth Ashworth
|
||
Designer & Associates
|
||
ka1fjx/4 High Technology Systems Consulting
|
||
jra@baylink.com +1 813 790 7592
|
||
|
||
------------------------------
|
||
|
||
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.periphs.scsi
|
||
From: amullick@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
|
||
Subject: Re: Summary: SCSI and IDE working together (MS-DOS/Win & Linux)
|
||
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 05:38:33 GMT
|
||
|
||
In article <1994Sep20.184952.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>, I wrote:
|
||
> be the only workable solution. One suggested that connecting
|
||
> the IDE drive to the middle connector on the ribbon cable
|
||
> connecting it to the controller would enable it to be the D:
|
||
> drive and the SCSI drive the C: drive.
|
||
|
||
|
||
I have been getting a number of email messages about this section
|
||
of my previous post so I guess a clarification is in order...
|
||
|
||
Based on my interpretation of the original message, the
|
||
person was saying to connect the IDE drive to the middle
|
||
connector on the IDE ribbon cable and the SCSI drive to
|
||
the SCSI cable. The idea was that the computer was to
|
||
find no IDE drive, boot off the SCSI drive and then find
|
||
the IDE drive using [I assume] some sort of driver or
|
||
utility. I am also assuming they are trying for some sort
|
||
of slave with no master setup or some kind of BIOS setting.
|
||
|
||
I realize that the popular opinion is that IDE _must_ be
|
||
the boot drive but this person says it works the other way
|
||
for him and I have no reason to question his motives in
|
||
saying this. If this person wishes me to repost his original
|
||
message, I will do so. Or if he wishes to add his comments
|
||
to this thread, he is free to do so. Otherwise, I'm just
|
||
going to leave this topic as is and chaulk it up to an
|
||
unverified urban legend.
|
||
|
||
I have tons of experience with SCSI and a good amount of experience
|
||
with IDE and I know putting the two on one ribbon cable is not a
|
||
good idea--kind of like putting gasoline in a diesel engine.
|
||
I have not mixed IDE and SCSI or gas and diesel and have absolutely
|
||
no plans to do so!! (I do however know people who have done the latter
|
||
to our ambulances and the long downtimes this has created.)
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
Additional comments:
|
||
====================
|
||
-One respondant mentioned using a Control Concepts combination IDE, SCSI,
|
||
4-floppy, 4-serial port, 2-bidirectional parallel port board. Company
|
||
is an advertiser in Byte and is based in either Virginia or Texas.
|
||
|
||
-Another respondant mentioned having seen a IDE/SCSI controller offered
|
||
by Tiger but no more details were given.
|
||
|
||
-Finally, after more searching, I found Buslogic contact information:
|
||
NB: These are unverified as I won't be able to call until Friday.
|
||
BBS: 408-492-1984
|
||
Tech Support (voice): 408-492-9090 or 408-988-7338
|
||
Tech Support (fax): 408-492-1542
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
|
||
As before, followups are welcome, both in the newsgroup(s) and by email.
|
||
|
||
|
||
Apu
|
||
amullick@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
|
||
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|
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|
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