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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 94 15:13:09 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #859
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Linux-Misc Digest #859, Volume #2 Sat, 1 Oct 94 15:13:09 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Editors/WordProcessors for Linux (Adam Wasserman)
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Re: How Old Is Linus? (Jiann-Ming Su)
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Re: TI486DCL (Len Bayles)
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Re: PPP chat script (Al Longyear)
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Re: Probs with ppp (Al Longyear)
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P.D. TCP/IP that will run on SCO? (Nexgen)
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Re: QNX, Linux, or 386BSD? (Michael Hunter)
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DOS 6.0 Interlnk->Linux??? (Jeremy Gordon)
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Re: Is Linux faster than Os/2? Please help. (A. Rohde)
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Re: A couple simple questions (Dennis Heltzel)
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Re: Novell unveils plan for Corsair (Marc Fraioli)
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Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz. (Jiann-Ming Su)
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Re: Mathematica, GAUSS (Vince Taluskie)
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Re: New User HOWTO proposal (las@light-house.uucp)
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What happened to "wt" ? (las@light-house.uucp)
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Re: Suggestions for a 486 PCI Motherboard (Steven M. Henry)
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Re: SCO WordPerfect: does it run on Linux? (Marc Fraioli)
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Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz. (Rakesh Malik)
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Re: X News-reader for LinuX (Marc Fraioli)
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From: awasser@mtkgc.com (Adam Wasserman)
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Subject: Re: Editors/WordProcessors for Linux
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Reply-To: awasser@mtkgc.com
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 16:43:14 GMT
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I posted the same question a few weeks ago. Responses condensed themselves
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into two possibilities:
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1. The editor in the Andrew package (aka AUIS)
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ftp: sunsite.unc.edu::/pub/Linux/X11/andrew/
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word processor only is auis63L1-wp.tgz
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2. SCO version of Word Perfect iBCS2 support added to the linux kernel.
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ftp: tsx-11.mit.edu::/pub/linux/ALPHA/ibcs2
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-- Adam
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| Adam Wasserman Sakura Global Capital awasser@mtkgc.com |
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From: js1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jiann-Ming Su)
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Subject: Re: How Old Is Linus?
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Date: 30 Sep 1994 14:49:25 -0500
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In article <367dkb$ai9@sashimi.wwa.com>,
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Terence S. Murphy <blackbob@wwa.com> wrote:
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>sure it will happen if Linux if still around for a couple of more years.
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>--
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Why would Linux go away?
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From: len@yar.cusa.com (Len Bayles)
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Subject: Re: TI486DCL
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 21:15:37
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In article <369p0t$4fk@cae48.emc.com> walton@emc.com (John Walton) writes:
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>From: walton@emc.com (John Walton)
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>Subject: TI486DCL
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>Date: 27 Sep 1994 14:41:33 -0400
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>Keywords: DCL
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>Has anyone ahve good/bad experiences with 486DLC processors.
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>For that matter what is a 486DLC??
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>Considering upgrading working 386DX.
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>Thanks
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I have three up and running in Linux systems. Seem to work fine. Mine have
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the co-processor built in. THey run 1.5 x a 386-40. I bought them from a
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company called LPC Technolgy and I think the price now is about $155. I have
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8 meg of ram in each also.
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len
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From: longyear@netcom.com (Al Longyear)
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Subject: Re: PPP chat script
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 03:13:46 GMT
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asr@kpc01.q8petroleum.com.kw (Ahmad S. Alrasheedan) writes:
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>I realised that the problem was not a chat script, both machines were
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>chating all right. I reach the stage of 'word:', then hell breaks loose.
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>I get alarm, fail. !!. I use the same 2 machines with PPP but on SCO; same
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>modems same everything, except I just swap the HD at home to run Linux.
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>I even use the same dialer string on SCO and linux. If any body know of such
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>a problem I would like to learn from their exp.
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Ah-ha, you are try to use SCO . . . .
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The last person which I helped who tried to use SCO said that the SCO
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tty drivers were so slow that he needed to put delays "\d\d" before
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the reply strings. Apparently, SCO flushes the typeahead buffer during
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its logon sequence while most systems do not.
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You may wish to try the delays. If that doesn't work, then send me
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mail and I'll see about digging up the actual details. It was fairly
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ugly as I recall. However, it did work.
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--
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Al Longyear longyear@netcom.com
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From: longyear@netcom.com (Al Longyear)
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Subject: Re: Probs with ppp
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 03:20:20 GMT
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dombach@neptun.cip.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Thorsten Dombach) writes:
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>Hi all!!
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>I've got some probs with ppp.
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>I have a friend, his ppp works fine.
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>So he made a kernel for me, gave me his pppd and his /etc directory.
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>And I tried it. But nothing.
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>I get following errors in /usr/adm/syslog :
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>Sep 29 23:34:13 ug211aa pppd[143]: ioctl(PPPIOCSINPSIG): Invalid argument
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>Sep 29 23:34:13 ug211aa kernel: ppp_tty_ioctl: invalid ioctl: 5495, addr
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>bffff9e
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>4
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>Sep 29 23:43:27 ug211aa pppd[160]: ioctl(PPPIOCSINPSIG): Invalid argument
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Please make sure that you have the proper version of PPP. You must
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have 2.1.2a.tar.gz. The 2.1.2.tar.gz file will not work. You will only
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get these errors. (2.1.2a.tar.gz is on both sunsite.unc.edu and on
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ftp.funet.fi)
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In addition, make sure that you are using the proper drivers in the
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kernel. The original Slackware 2.0 code used an old version of the
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kernel driver. This was the package which was put on the Infomagic
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CDROM set.
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The kernel driver has been corrected in the slackware package. If you
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get the package after July 10, 1994, it should have the proper
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kernels.tgz file. If you have an earlier verison, then get the
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updated file.
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The 'bad' kernel driver reports a version 0.1.2 when Linux boots. The
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'good' one reports 0.2.7.
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Please make sure that you are using the same ppp.h include file for
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both the deamon (pppd) and the driver (ppp.c).
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Al Longyear longyear@netcom.com
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From: nexgen@shakti.ncst.ernet.in (Nexgen)
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Subject: P.D. TCP/IP that will run on SCO?
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Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 10:47:48 GMT
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Hello everyone!
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does anyone know of a P.D. TCP/IP that will run on SCO and
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where it may be obtained from?
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Mr.K.K. Mody
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CEO NexGen Info. Solns.
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nexgen@shakti.ncst.ernet.in
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.os.386bsd.misc
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From: bagpiper@netcom.com (Michael Hunter)
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Subject: Re: QNX, Linux, or 386BSD?
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 22:49:50 GMT
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Po-Han Lin (plin@girtab.usc.edu) wrote:
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: If one has a pc compatible with a 486, which OS is the best unix
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: operating system? QNX, Linux, or 386BSD?
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Depends on what you want to do with it. If you want to explore real time or
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distributed programming in a POSIX environment then QNX 4 would be
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your choice. If you want a more generic Unix environment then you would pick
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one of the other 2. List some requirements and you might see some
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real heated religious debate :)
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mph
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* Michael Hunter bagpiper@netcom.com or QUICS: mphunter
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From: jgordon@wam.umd.edu (Jeremy Gordon)
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Subject: DOS 6.0 Interlnk->Linux???
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Date: 1 Oct 1994 04:17:03 GMT
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i like linux so much it took over my computer, and now i don't even
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have a dos partition....
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but i am an atari jaguar developer, and i need to have dos, solution,
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buy another computer, so i did, its a notebook (compaq contura aero)
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i am trying to avoid paying $150+ for a PCMCIA ethernet card, (and the
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ensuing dos networking software) so i would like to inquire on the
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feasability of making dos's parallel port "network mounted drive" program
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"interlnk.exe" work under linux (ie have a linux version of "intersvr.exe")
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i have experience with mucking about in the linux kernel, and plenty of
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C programming experience, and given the availability of parallel port source
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(ie plip) it seems feasible...
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bottom line, anyone know how to go about getting the protocol for interlnk??
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if i just wanted to ftp, etc i'd use the crywnr patches to plip to be compat
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with dos plip.com, but then i need some pc-nfs client, or samba and windows
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for workgroups, all of which are $$$ and take up loads of low dos memory...
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any ideas???
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-jeremy
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questions/comments/answers to jgordon@animator.slip.umd.edu
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Jeremy Gordon
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Senior Programmer
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Hyper Image Productions
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(jgordon@animator.slip.umd.edu)
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From: exp109@modcomp.physik.uni-kiel.de (A. Rohde)
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Subject: Re: Is Linux faster than Os/2? Please help.
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Date: 29 Sep 1994 12:17:12 GMT
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A. Rohde (exp109@modcomp.physik.uni-kiel.de) wrote:
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: I use a standalone Linux Slackware 2.0.0.
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: I have an 'optimised' kernel (no drivers for things I don't have compiled in),
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: run 4 getty's, use tvtwm (eats a little bit more RAM than fvwm) and rxvt.
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: When I start X11 on my 8MB system (one rxvt running), I have 4.2 MB free
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: (free+buffers, swap is 0). A 'default' window-manager is unknown to me. I think
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: Robert is talking about olvwm. olvmw (and the libraries it has to use) wastes ca.
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: 1.3 MB RAM. Robert you don't know what your talking about. You did not spent any
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: time in configuring Linux.
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> Funny, I thought I did. I built a new kernel throwing out support
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> for all the stuff I don't need, played with tvtwm (which was even more of
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> a hog than olvwm)
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tvtwm is NEVER such a hog as ol(v)wm.
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> and removed some other processes I don't need. BTW, on my
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> installation (Infomagic CD, Slackware 2.0), olvwm is the *default* window
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> manager since that is what works out of the box.
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I use Slackware 2.0. All window-managers work out of the box. tvtwm is not
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included in Slackware, I compiled it.
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> Since you're such an expert: Can disk buffers shrink to 0 or is there
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> a minimum size for them?
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I think, that the cache algorhithms of the Linux-kernel are the best I've ever
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seen. The code is better even than the cache system of Solaris 2.3 (Sparc)
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(perhaps, Sun's cache is configureable....). I use the cache, and perhaps it was
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written by people who use it. I use applications that read and write hundreds of
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kilobytes from the cache buffer instead of the harddisk. For example the
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size of gcc + cpp + make + sh +... is much larger than 1MB. If you compile
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large programs, you have to write lots of temporary files and to link libraries.
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You can mount a ext2 filesystem syncronously, that means, there's no write behind
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cache (is the any cache than?). Do this if you want to slow down your box.
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I use OS/2. IBM installs the cache with a minimum, fixed size. If I use IBM's
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defaults I have to wait ****5 times***** longer for a compilation of unzip
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tahn under Linux. If I set the cache to 1.5 MB, I have to wait two times longer.
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OS/2's cache is not well designed at all.
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> Can I specify that I want to shrink disk buffers
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> before I start swapping out unused (in this case presumably getty) processes
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> in favor of maintaining larger disk buffers which I don't use?
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I think, that Linus and all the other people ( *you* said: "Since you're such an
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expert...") do extremely good work. If you can't share my opinion,
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*you* should rewrite the kernel code......
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Axel
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From: dheltzel@crl.com (Dennis Heltzel)
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Subject: Re: A couple simple questions
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Date: 1 Oct 1994 15:27:15 -0000
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Nathan Dwyer (nate@netcom.com) wrote:
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: I printed once. No CR. I tried changing some of the printcap around, no
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: luck. I changed it back. Now, when I lpd something, all I get are blank
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: pages. I'm currently using the generic printer entry. I have a Laserjet
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: 4ML.
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The no CR problem (sometimes called the stairstep effect) results from
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the difference between DOS and UNIX text files. DOS terminates each line
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with a CR/LF combination; UNIX only uses a LF. The Laserjet is expecting
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a DOS type file and to prevent double spacing, does not perform a CR
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unless explicitly told to. This means each line starts in the vertical
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column right after where the last line stopped, creating a staricase
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effect.
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To fix it permanently, you need to use an input filter that adds the CR
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to the printfile as it is processed. I'd suggest you look at the
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Printing HOWTO, it explains this better and gives examples.
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: Secondly, I can't receive files over the modem with minicom. The blue
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: receive box comes up, pauses for a bit, then dissapears. If I use xmodem
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: and switch to a shell to run rz -vv I get the error that it can't open
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: /var/adm/szlog. I made a dummy szlog, and even changed the group
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: ownership from root to users, but no luck.
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I'm confused about whether you want to use xmodem or zmodem. When I want
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to download a file, I just type "sz filename" and minicom handles the
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receiving automatically. Try that and follow up this post with more
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specifics if it doesn't work.
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Dennis
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From: mjf@clark.net (Marc Fraioli)
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Subject: Re: Novell unveils plan for Corsair
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Date: 1 Oct 1994 15:35:23 GMT
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Reply-To: mjf@clark.net
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In article t4@gilligan.npeg.provo.novell.com, ron@novell.com (Ron Holt) writes:
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>In article <35smlr$irk@clarknet.clark.net>, Marc Fraioli <mjf@clark.net> wrote:
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>>They took the teeth out of it
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>>after Ray Noorda left.
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>
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>Basically true. But who's the "they"? Certainly not the Corsair team...
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>
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"they" is Novell management-- whoever made the decision to change Corsair.
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>>The new CEO, Bob Frankenberg, is yet another
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>>dull business man with no real interest in his industry.
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>
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>Not true. Running a billion dollar company is more complex that you paint it.
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>
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I didn't say it wasn't complex. All I'm saying is that he's dumping the
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more imaginative projects that were underway, trying to appease Microsoft,
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and just generally not being a cutting-edge kind of guy.
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Marc Fraioli | "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist- "
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mjf@clark.net | - Last words of Union General John Sedgwick,
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| Battle of Spotsylvania Court House, U.S. Civil War
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From: Jiann-Ming Su <js1@Ra.MsState.Edu>
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Subject: Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz.
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 15:07:17 -0500 (CDT)
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On Fri, 30 Sep 1994, Bill Broadley wrote:
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> SGI doesn't sell a 200 Mhz processor.
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Hmm. . That's funny. When I type hinv, it says 200MHz.
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From: taluskie@alpha.ph.utexas.edu (Vince Taluskie)
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Subject: Re: Mathematica, GAUSS
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Date: 30 Sep 1994 14:44:35 -0500
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In article <36ekrr$q2d@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
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Ted Harding <Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> wrote:
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>In response to queries from colleagues, I am trying to find out if
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>the mathematics packages MATHEMATICA and GAUSS are available for
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>Linux, or in UNIX version which can be persuaded to work in Linux.
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I've talked with Wolfram Research over a period of several months
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they said that they have NO plans to make Mathematica available under
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Linux. You're welcome to give them a call and make a request for it
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if you want, perhaps they'll get the message
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mathematica, wolfram research, phone 1-800-441-6284
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Vince
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--
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Vince Taluskie
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UT Physics Computer Group taluskie@utpapa.ph.utexas.edu
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UNIX Systems Administration http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~taluskie/home.html
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"It's easier to be a result of the past than a cause of the future"
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From: las@light-house.uucp
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Subject: Re: New User HOWTO proposal
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 09:58:57 GMT
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Reply-To: whome!light-house!las@planix.com
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David K. Merriman (merriman@metronet.com) wrote:
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: The tips & tricks would be introduced at different points in the document -
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: for example, the shift-pageup could be highlighted and placed right after a
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: section on the kernel make sequence _and_ somewhere around a description of
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: what all the boot messages mean. That way, they'd be more likely to be
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: rememberd in the appropriate context.
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Are you proposing some kind of hypertext help file to Linux? That would
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be an excellent idea, even if you implement it under Dos, the user could
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be more prepared for that "first time" boot.
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Also, with hypertext you could have links to the other HOWTO's, which
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would make it an even more comprehensive tool.
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Cheers,
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Laszlo Herczeg
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*** Ask me about the Toronto Linux Users Group (TLUG) ***
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From: las@light-house.uucp
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Subject: What happened to "wt" ?
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 10:14:13 GMT
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Reply-To: whome!light-house!las@planix.com
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About 2 months ago, I stopped receiving any information from
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the wt mailing list, and it seems that wt is not being updated
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anymore.
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If someone knows what happened with wt, pls. email me with the
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info to get a hold of Chris and Patrick.
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BTW, for those who never heard of it, "wt" is a texture-mapped
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graphics renderer for Linux, and other platforms. It beats DOOM
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hands down, IMHO.
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Cheers,
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Laszlo Herczeg
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*** Ask me about the Toronto Linux Users Group (TLUG) ***
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From: smhenry@vt.edu (Steven M. Henry)
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Subject: Re: Suggestions for a 486 PCI Motherboard
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 11:08:30
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In article <1994Oct1.112909.20628@ka4ybr.com> mah@ka4ybr.com (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR) writes:
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>From: mah@ka4ybr.com (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
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>Subject: Re: Suggestions for a 486 PCI Motherboard
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>Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 11:29:09 GMT
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>Steven M. Henry (smhenry@vt.edu) wrote:
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>: I am in the market to upgrade my computer and want to purchase a 486 PCI
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>: motherboard that will give me good performance and will be compatible with
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>: Linux. Please email me or post any replies.
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>: I will post a summary of the responses.
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>Why not just download a copy of the PCI-HOWTO from sunsite?
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I had already read the PCI-HOWTO before posting, I found the howto to be very
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informative about PCI in general, but when it got to the information on
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specific PCI motherboards and graphics card it did not flow very well, and I
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had the impression that most of the users were using Pentium PCI systems.
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Also, I am looking for a 486 PCI with good performance, I have read messages
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form people that just don't get the performance they should on certain brands
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of PCI motherboards.
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From: mjf@clark.net (Marc Fraioli)
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Subject: Re: SCO WordPerfect: does it run on Linux?
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Date: 1 Oct 1994 15:40:23 GMT
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Reply-To: mjf@clark.net
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In article 26239@taylor.infi.net, mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis) writes:
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>mjf@clark.net (Marc Fraioli) writes:
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>> 2. Although the program is nominally X/Motif (it creates a window,
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>> has pull-down menus, etc.), it is still basically a text program.
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>> It is clearly text-oriented. For example, choosing "load" from
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>> the file menu results in WP's text file load screen taking over
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>> the window from the document, just like it does under DOS.
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>> NO Motif filebox. This shows more laziness than anything else,
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>> I suspect, but it still blows.
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>
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>This is not true.... certainly not in 5.1. You click on file, you do
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>indeed get a standard, motifish file chooser- all point and click.
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>
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Yes, I know that, but I was talking about 5.0.
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[Many of my complaints not seen by you]
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>> and you
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>> can't scroll all the way to the bottom of the document.
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>
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>That was fixed in the 11/93 and later versions of WP5.1
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>
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Yes, but as I said, I have 5.0, which does indeed have these
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problems.
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>> There are many more, but these are sufficient to damn it internally
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>>in my mind.
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>
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>At least keep the damning mostly to the Ultrix version.... :)
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>
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Ok. And I meant "eternally" not "internally". Must have been asleep...
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Marc Fraioli | "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist- "
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mjf@clark.net | - Last words of Union General John Sedgwick,
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| Battle of Spotsylvania Court House, U.S. Civil War
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From: vlad@myhost.subdomain.domain (Rakesh Malik)
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Subject: Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz.
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Date: 29 Sep 1994 18:19:00 GMT
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Valery Petrov (lera@zeus.chem.wvu.edu) wrote:
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: In article <ianm.780340433@miles>, ianm@qualcomm.com (Ian McCloghrie) writes:
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: |> lera@zeus.chem.wvu.edu (Valery Petrov) writes:
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: |>
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: |> >the price difference (similarly equipped SGI is ~3 times more expensive)
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: |> >I wonder who whould like to buy those Indigos nowdays.
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: |>
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: |> (in the future, please try to use lines < 70 characters long)
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: |>
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: |> The reason people buy Indigos (and SGIs in general) is not to have
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: |> general CPU compute servers. The reason, quite simply, is graphics.
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: |> (Yup, that's what the 'G' in SGI stands for). The amount of graphics
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: |> rendering hardware one can get in an SGI is more than just about any
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: |> other off-the-shelf workstation, certainly more than in a PC.
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: |> Combine this with their GL 3-d graphics libraries, and you've got a
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: |> system for doing really really nice graphics programming.
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: You are right about graphics rendering hardware. It costs also certainly
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: more then any PC video card. Unfortunately it is highly specific to the
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: 3-D polygon manipulations and has very moderate speedup for X applications.
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: I measured 85 KXstones on my Indigo R-4000 with XZ videocard ($3000 option).
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: You can get comparable X performance with ~$100 worth S3 videocard under
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: XFree.
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: 3-D GL libraries is also freely available for Linux and they are
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: almost compatible with Silicon Graphics GL format.
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: Valery Petrov
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: Nonlinear Dynamics Research Group
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: Department of Chemistry
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: West Virginia University
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Also, high-end Matrox boards have 3-d graphics hardware on them also.
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Not like top-of-the-line SGI's stuff, but a lot cheaper.
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-Rakesh
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From: mjf@clark.net (Marc Fraioli)
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Subject: Re: X News-reader for LinuX
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Date: 1 Oct 1994 15:42:14 GMT
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Reply-To: mjf@clark.net
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xvnews is a good one too, if you have the xview libraries installed.
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Current version is 2.2 pl1. I think it's on sunsite. Note it only
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works with NNTP, I think.
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Marc Fraioli | "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist- "
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mjf@clark.net | - Last words of Union General John Sedgwick,
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| Battle of Spotsylvania Court House, U.S. Civil War
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