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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 94 04:13:18 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #893
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Linux-Misc Digest #893, Volume #2 Fri, 7 Oct 94 04:13:18 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: What PCMCIA ethernet card to buy? (James Greer)
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I know this has been asked before but.... What is the best Linux CD set? (Peter Farkas)
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Re: which is better: Mitsumi or Panasonic CDROM? (Harry C Pulley)
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Disk partitioning and moving filesystems. (Kristian Mowinckel)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Richard L. Goerwitz)
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Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (Rob Kean)
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Re: Editors/WordProcessors for Linux (davis@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu)
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Compatibility with Magitronic systems (Jordan Coleman (Pioneer))
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56.6 KB SIMULATED WIT (steven.rosenberg@support.com)
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Re: FVWM sound manager? (Alan Hannan)
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Re: Bluewave?? (neil j.cherry)
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Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree (Alexandra Griffin)
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Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (Alexandra Griffin)
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Re: QNX, Linux, or 386BSD? (Rob Carnegie)
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking
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From: jimgreer@tucson.princeton.edu (James Greer)
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Subject: Re: What PCMCIA ethernet card to buy?
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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 15:05:35 GMT
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>>I'm looking for PCMCIA ethernet card for my notebook running Linux. I
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>>have the list of Linux-happy cards (got it from the Stanford ftp site
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>>about a month ago.) I'm looking for recommendations on these or
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>>compatiable cards, as well as leads on good prices. Thanks!
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>I am using the 3COM 3c589. So far it work great. I have some network config
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>issues to work out still, but they have nothing to do with the card. I don't
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>know if they are still offering this; I believe it has expired. I bought the
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>card through a special promotional deal directly from 3COM. You could get
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>the TP version for $99 or the Combo for $129. You might want to call them
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>at 1-800-NET-3COM and see if its still available.
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>Steve
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3Com is still doing this deal, but they said they couldn't ship it for 3-5
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weeks. I couldn't wait this long, so I'm getting a D-Link for about $200.
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Oh, well... Thanks for letting me know.
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--
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"Because it was there... jimgreer@princeton.edu
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I don't think I even had to be on stuff. Computer Science, Class of '95
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I just like to smear things. Smearing is nice.
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Smearing is good." - Iggy Pop on why he put peanut butter on his chest onstage
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From: pp000070@interramp.com (Peter Farkas)
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Subject: I know this has been asked before but.... What is the best Linux CD set?
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 09:42:52 UNDEFINED
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I am sorry for once again asking this question, I saw it here a week or so
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ago, but I did not pay attention then. What is the best CDROM Linux vendor?
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Preferably with the slackware distribution. Any thoughts? As this question has
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already been debated to some extent on the linux newsgroups, perhaps any
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responses should be mailed to me instead. Either way, I will get them. THank
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you.
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Pete Farkas
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From: hpulley@uoguelph.ca (Harry C Pulley)
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Subject: Re: which is better: Mitsumi or Panasonic CDROM?
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Date: 6 Oct 1994 12:14:31 GMT
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Heiko Schlittermann (heiko@lotte.sax.de) wrote:
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: In article <Cww7yx.27u@utu.fi>,
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: Teemu Kilpivuori <teekilpi@euroni.cs.utu.fi> wrote:
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: >: What evidence do you have for that ?
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: >Yeah,what. As I understand, Panasonic doesn't use IRQ nor DMA, only software
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: >polling, which makes it slower,and it causes more CPU-load than Mitsumi with
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: >IRQ and DMA enabled. I have tested both drives, and seen that myself, which
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: >is why I bought a Mitsumi.
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: As far as I know the Mitsumi driver doesn't use either irq nor dma.
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Then why is it important that you set your IRQ correctly in mcd.h?
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Harry
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<:-{} hpulley@uoguelph.ca |This message released|It takes all kinds,
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\ Harry C. Pulley, IV |to the PUBLIC DOMAIN.|and to each his own.
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==================================+=====================|This thought in mind,
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Stay away from the DOS side, Luke!|Un*x don't play that.|I walk alone.
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From: nfykw@alfred.uib.no (Kristian Mowinckel)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Disk partitioning and moving filesystems.
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 00:01:03 GMT
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Disk partitioning and moving filesystems.
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Firstly I must mention that I have read
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Wirzenius's newsarticle of 2 jul 1994 18:21 about disk partitioning.
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However I have some questions.
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I recently bought a 420Mb Conner ide drive.
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And I have a 240Mb Samsung ide drive.
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Currenly my 240Mb Samsung drive is my hda
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and my 420Mb Conner drive is my hdb.
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The partitions are:
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Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on
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/dev/hda2 216012 173057 31799 84% / % linux root
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/dev/hdb1 385436 1 365529 0% /hdb1 % new linux part
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/dev/hda1 5212 2636 2576 51% /dosc % dos part
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On /dev/hdb2 I have a 18Mb swap partitition.
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Earlier I had a 17Mb swap partitition on /dev/hda3,
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but that I deleted.
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Since the 420Mb Conner drive is faster I would
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like to let this become hda(by changing jumpers on the drives).
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Then would like to have one big linux partitition on this,
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besides the swap partitition.
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On 240Mb Samsung drive I would like to have a small
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dos/mswindows partitition and a news spool partition
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since I am planning to set up a news server on my box when I get
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my slip connecting.
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How can I accomplish this?
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Especially installing lilo on the 420Mb Conner drive.
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Greetings from,
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Kristian
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/\_/\
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(o o)
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+---------------------ooO-(o)-Ooo---------------------+
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Name: Kristian August Mowinckel +
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Postal Address: +
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Hamnegata 6 +
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7800 Namsos +
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Country: Norway +
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Phone: + 47 74 27 43 61 +
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E-mail: nfykw@alf.uib.no +
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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From: goer@quads.uchicago.edu (Richard L. Goerwitz)
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Reply-To: goer@midway.uchicago.edu
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 05:09:41 GMT
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naoumov@physics.unc.edu (Sergei Naoumov) writes:
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>Haven't heared about such a creature! Emacs and TeX!!! Besides, if you'd
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>make a WYSIWYG for LaTeX, imagine how many menus and control sequences
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>you nedded to get a good control over your document. Impossible!
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Come on guys. I've been using Emacs for quite some time now. It's the
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best program editor I know. But it can't touch off-the-shelf word pro-
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cessors available for micros.
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Another point: TeX will give you low-level control over your document.
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But frankly I don't give a damn. Once the referees, copy editors, lay-
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out goons, and editors get their hands on my MS it's not going to look
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like what I gave them, anyway. So who wants to twiddle kerning pairs?
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Just bang the sucker out, I say, and don't be so anal-retentive.
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And don't anyone tell me, by the way, that Emacs is a great multilingual
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editor. I've got some off-the-shelf editors that do this on micros with
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little or no fuss (e.g. MLS for the peecee). And they are REAL word
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processors - not souped up editors that still betray their roots in old
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style ttys and character-based displays. Just touch type Hebrew or
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Greek or whatever with canned layouts - no need to even look at any
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key bindings.
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Like someone said to me via e-mail, why question whether there are any
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good multilingual word processors for Linux when there aren't any good
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word processors available for it period? Things may change, to be sure.
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I'll be the first to hop on the bandwagon if they do.
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--
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-Richard L. Goerwitz goer%midway@uchicago.bitnet
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goer@midway.uchicago.edu rutgers!oddjob!ellis!goer
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From: rkean@scsn.net (Rob Kean)
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 01:52:06
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In article <36vcaa$2fj@tequesta.gate.net> gterry@gate.net (G. E. Terry) writes:
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>RYAN Colin Patrick (ryan@ecf.toronto.edu) wrote:
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>: While responding to an add inteh local paper for a $99 486 upgrade it came
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>: to light that this upgrade was a quote "486/66 Mhz" which was a "faster chip and less expensive than the i486DX2-66". This propted my query on what the hell
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>: this chip was and the response was AMD. I was not aware of this chip. I was
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>: under the impression that all the 66's 75's 100's etc (non-Pentium) were
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>: overclocked 33 Mhz chips. Does a 'real' 66 Mhz chip exist? If so (and I dont'
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>: think so" do traditional mother boards ( ie that could handle a DX2) support
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>: this chip. And Finally, if this is true is it compatble and reliable.
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>This is just an clock doubled 33. I would say it might have been an error
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>in the ad. I have one of these chips. The story I read was that Advanced
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>Micro Devices bought the masks for the 80286 from Intel a few years back.
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>They decide to try to test the copywrite & patent laws by cloning the
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>386 & 486 chips. Well they were very successful and Intel sued. In the
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>following trial, Intel LOST. I hear it was due to the naming system that
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>they used. It made the chips generic in the eyes of the court. That is why
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>there is no 80586, and we have the Pentium.
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>As far as reliability, the AMD 486DX2/66 is an exact duplicate of Intel's
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>chip, or so I read in PC Magazine. And at an average of 100 to 150 dollars
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>less than Intel, I am a buyer!
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Actually, in the ever running catch up game between AMD and Intel the price
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difference has fallen to $20. BUT, this is about to change--BIG SHOCK!! 8^)..
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AMD is about to release, yes you guessed it, their 486DX2-80MHz!!!!!
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From what I've heard through my venders, It will run about $20 more than an
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Intel 66MHz.
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rhk
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rkean@scsn.net
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From: davis@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu
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Subject: Re: Editors/WordProcessors for Linux
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Date: 6 Oct 1994 06:11:03 GMT
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Reply-To: davis@amy.tch.harvard.edu
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In article <36uqhe$s95@agate.berkeley.edu>, josefd@albert.ssl.berkeley.edu (Josef Dalcolmo) writes:
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: Well, I am using jed (look at amy.harvard.edu). That's a small programmable
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: emacs lookalike. (If you have plenty of memory you may as well use emacs)
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Close. It is amy.tch.harvard.edu in pub/jed. 0.97-5b does color syntax
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highlighting on TeX files.
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--
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#___/John E. Davis\_________________________________________________________
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#
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# internet: davis@amy.tch.harvard.edu
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# bitnet: davis@ohstpy
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# office: 617-735-6746
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#
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From: coleman@rembrandt.its.rpi.edu (Jordan Coleman (Pioneer))
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Subject: Compatibility with Magitronic systems
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Date: 6 Oct 1994 06:34:48 GMT
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Does anyone know anything about compatibility (or compatibility problems)
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using linux on Magitronic systems. I'm looking into a Pentium Magitronic
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box, but I want to check compatibility first.
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Also, I'm trying to construct a screamingly fast machine for linux. It will
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probably be based either on magitronic or an Asus motherboard, are either of
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these a good choice, or is there a better one? Also, I've heard that running
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linux on a pentium isn't much faster than on a DX2 and that memory is more of
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an issue. What would the difference be between the two, assuming PCI bus,
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fast disk, and 16-32Mb RAM? What about DX4?
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Thanks!
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--Jordan
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Jordan Coleman
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Chair, RPI Association for Computing Machinery
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Engineer, Coleman Consulting
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From: steven.rosenberg@support.com
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Subject: 56.6 KB SIMULATED WIT
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Date: Wed, 05 Oct 94 22:01:51 -0700
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> I recall seeing a device that does just that in a catalog
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>called "Black Boxes" (which unfortunately I no longer receive).
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>
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> Basically, it's a pair of black boxes, one on each end
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>of the modems:
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> box modem modem box
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> --- --- --- ---
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> modem modem
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> I think the black boxes deal with the multiplexing of the
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>signals, and appear as a single serial port to the host.
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>Perhaps someone who does recieve that Black Boxes catalog can
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>look it up. (not cheap though, as I recall.. )
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I have a system at work which captures Associated Press and various
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other wire services -- multiple 9600 baud feeds -- which go to a couple
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of Black Box brand spoolers. We don't have the latest models, but they
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are VERY good at managing multiple streams of data. They can also match
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up two devices with different baud rates, i.e. take 9600 baud and spit
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out 2400.
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Also, they can HOLD data if the destination computer is not ready to
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receive it. All in all, a real lifesaver. When we perform system
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backups, the Black Boxes hold the wire data until the tape is done
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running.
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From: alan@mid.net (Alan Hannan)
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Subject: Re: FVWM sound manager?
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Date: 6 Oct 1994 03:11:41 GMT
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Bill McCarthy (bmccarth@gulfaero.com) wrote:
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: Been reading the posts on the new ver of Xfree and came across references
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: to an FVWM window event sound manager - can anyone tell me what this is
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: and point to files related? I looked around at home and couldn't find
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: anything in the system.fvwmrc. This sounds interesting and is the first
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: time I"ve seen reference to such an animal. Thanks for any pointers.
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It's a module in the newer fvwm distributions. You can get it from:
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spcot.sanders.com:/pub/fvwm
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It's quite nice for a while, then it seems to get old, but it's great to
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have available, very customizable, and just blows the sox off of visitors.
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+ alan@mid.net Network Operations Center (402)/472-0242, Fax (402)/472-0240 +
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+============\\ "Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong." +
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From: ncherry@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (neil j.cherry)
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Subject: Re: Bluewave??
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 15:55:28 GMT
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In article <af7_9410040408@idn.nl> Andre.Broers@prgbbs.idn.nl (Andre Broers) writes:
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>Does someone know if there exists a bluewave reader for linux??
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I don't know about Blue Wave but there is a qwk reader called atp which is
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either on sunsite or tsx.
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njc (Neil Cherry)
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From: acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Alexandra Griffin)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
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Subject: Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 07:31:12 GMT
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In article <1994Oct5.141142.773@muvms6>,
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Andy Bailey <bailey9@muvms6.wvnet.edu> wrote [in c.o.l.misc]:
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>[...]
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>
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> I think more users might be attracted to Linux, if some really nice
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>out-of-box configs like this were available, as well as some new icons and
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>fonts. Perhaps some scripts (maybe tcl/tk based) that allow easy
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>addition/removal of icons from the desktop. (I know its simple just the edit
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>the config file to add/remove stuff, but this would be better looking)
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> Its just a wild idea, but I'd like to hear from anyone whos interested as
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>well
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You may get some negative feedback from the die-hard functionality
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over form crowd, but I'd say there's a lot of truth to what you're
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saying-- cleaning up minor things like GUI look & feel *will* make the
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X environment more appealing to a lot of people (maybe this is
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unfortunate, but with all the "fluff" on a typical Mac/Windoze desktop
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nowadays a lot of people expect this kind of thing...)
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Some ideas along this line that I've thought about:
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1) A mouse-driven tool for setting common X resource preferences would
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be *very* helpful, even for experienced users (kind of a big project,
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I know). Hewlett-Packard workstations include this as part of the
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HP-VUE desktop-- you can adjust window colors, background pixmaps,
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speaker pitch & volume, screensaver status, etc. from a "control
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panel"-like utility. There are too many things under X that can be
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configured only from the command line, which is not good (ideally both
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a good GUI and command-line way of setting each option should exist).
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An extension of this idea might involve using GetWidetTree
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calls to a selected application to find out what resources can be set
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(like editres does), filtering out those that are obviously used only
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internally, and providing some kind of nice front-end for altering
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these (and saving them to .Xdefaults, which would be automatically
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"xrdb -load'ed" on exiting the preferences tool). HP-VUE even allows
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some things to be changed on the fly in already-running clients, but I
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think support for this has to be specially compiled into each client.
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Maybe a drop-in replacement for some of the X shared libraries could
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allow existing binaries to support this, though?
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2) A better X file manager than what's currently out there (xfm &
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xfilemanager are nice but not as easy to configure, easy to use, or
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generally polished as one might like). Maybe something that provided
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essentially the same functionality as Mouseless Commander (the
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text-based Norton Commander clone), but with a mouse-driven GUI? (&
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provisions for icons if desired, scrollbars on the dual file selection
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lists, real pulldown menus-- leave in the command line at the bottom,
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though!).
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Well, you mentioned NextStep-- on second thought, something
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similar to the wonderful NeXT Workspace Manager application would be
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delightful to have. For those who have never seen it, this program
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(in its Browser mode) presents a group of side-by-side vertical
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directory listings, with each column representing a level of the
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directory hiearchy... selecting a subdir. name from one list opens a a
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listing of that directory onto the column to the right. It's very
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similar to Xarchie's user interface (with the MultiList widget)-- the
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column set scrolls horizontally so there's no limit to how deep you
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can go. Above each column, a single icon is shown for the selected
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entry ("pouches" for directories, appropriate icons for other file
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types), and above that is a "shelf" area where icons can be dragged to
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for quick access or future use. For copying/moving/linking, you can
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either use the shelf as a temporary holding area or open multiple
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browser windows at once...
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Workspace manager has other view-modes as well (Mac-like
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window full of icons, detailed single-column directories...), but
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Browser is the most unique.
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3) Another idea from HP-VUE... this environment features a "console
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bar" area at the bottom of the screen, containing buttons to switch
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virtual desktops, invocation icons for commonly-used apps, small icons
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for system functions (logging out...), and space for a clock,
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calendar, Xload bargraph, & other stuff. The appearance of the bar is
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very professional, with little beveled insets for each item. I'm
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thinking that something similar could be done for fvwm by simply
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creating a "wrapper" program that allows existing X apps to be run as
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borderless, titlebarless child windows within its confines, creating
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the nice bevels or whatever around each inset client. Good clients to
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embed might include xclock/dclock/oclock/whatever, xload, xmem,
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xsysinfo, fvwm GoodStuff (for launching apps), the fvwm pager,
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xpostit, etc. etc...
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For those like myself who have less screen resolution than
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they want and like to conserve it ;-), another good feature this
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"toolbar" app could provide would be to find the optimal geometries
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for packing the configured child clients into as small an area as
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possible, for a given overall rectangular area and position (and
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minimum sizes for each child). I have my .xsession set up to start
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the fvwm pager, xpostit, xload, xsysinfo, and dclock (from
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Interviews), all nicely packed together in the upper-left corner of
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the desktop (borderless and "sticky"). Finding all the -geometry
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AxB+C+D settings down to the pixel was kind of tedious, though, and
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that's the kind of thing computers should be doing for us! Options
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for a decorative border a la HP-VUE around the area would be cool as
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well. Of course, this client should be configurable in a GUIish way
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for user-friendliness, with the option to just edit an rc file for
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experts...
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Just thought I'd throw those ideas out-- things I've thought about
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writing myself some day but probably won't for a while (until I learn
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more about X programming at any rate...)
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-- alex
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From: acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Alexandra Griffin)
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 07:39:00 GMT
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In article <371kim$emf@venera.isi.edu>, Daniel Zappala <daniel@isi.edu> wrote:
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>
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>In article <370rc5$o7q@crl.crl.com>, rigor@crl.com (Sam Brown) writes:
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>
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>I have an AMD 486DX-40. Any news on an add-in from AMD to turn this into a
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>486DX2-80, or do I need to buy a whole new chip?
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Nope, sorry... the dx/2 chips are different inside (have a PLL circuit
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to double their on-chip clock, and extra interface logic to hook up to
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the half-speed external bus), and of course you can't very well modify
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a silicon die after it's been made!
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You may be able to overclock a little bit, though... possibly up to
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50MHz? That big of a jump is probably pushing it though. Be sure to
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adequately cool the cpu if you try it (heat sink w/conductive
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compound, fan blowing on it).
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-- alex
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From: carnegie@gov.chilliwack.bc.ca (Rob Carnegie)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.os.386bsd.misc
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Subject: Re: QNX, Linux, or 386BSD?
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Date: 3 Oct 1994 22:36:28 GMT
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In article <3680r1$dlu@girtab.usc.edu>, plin@girtab.usc.edu (Po-Han Lin) says:
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>
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>If one has a pc compatible with a 486, which OS is the best unix
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>operating system? QNX, Linux, or 386BSD?
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QNX is an operating system that is optimized for real time
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applications. Most commercial products made for it are
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real time oriented (eg. process control etc.). For general
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purpose computing, I would give it a pass in favour of
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something more widely used for G.P. computing.
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