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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 94 13:13:25 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #895
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Linux-Misc Digest #895, Volume #2 Fri, 7 Oct 94 13:13:25 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Bill Willis)
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Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz. (CVL staff member Nate Sammons)
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Re: Where is infomagic? (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Miguel Alvarez Blanco)
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Does all SCO software run on Linux (C.W. Southern)
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PHONE for ACC Bookstore Anyone? (edg@tt740)
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Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one? (Raoul Golan)
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Re: Linux doesn't like my cache (David Flood)
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Re: where to get the texbook (Michael Rogero Brown (Sys Admin))
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Re: X News-reader for LinuX (Jaime Jofre)
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Re: New Linux Distribution (Aaron K. Michalove)
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Re: Idek 8617 + ???? @ 1280x1024x(76-80)Hz (Andre M.A. van Leeuwen)
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Re: Idek 8617 + ???? @ 1280x1024x(76-80)Hz (Mary Shenk)
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DooM: Sound but no Music? (Raymond Kraft)
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Re: SW Technologies (Jonathan I. Kamens)
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Re: where to get the texbook (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
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Re: Linux mentioned in PC Week (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
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From: willis@bltop.ncsu.edu (Bill Willis)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: 5 Oct 1994 03:53:04 GMT
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Reply-To: willis@bltop.ncsu.edu (Bill Willis)
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In article <1994Oct4.130724.10487@midway.uchicago.edu>, goer@quads.uchicago.edu (Richard L. Goerwitz) writes:
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|>
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|>Still, it is not as if style sheets can't be done using major word proces-
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|>sors. And I'm not sure that TeX is really the right thing to bring up for
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|>average users. It's just not a word processor in the sense that most of
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|>us use those words. Any system that separates editing from viewing just
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|>adds another gratuitous layer of indirection to the process of producing
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|>documents.
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|>
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Actually, almost every study I have ever seen shows that WYSIWYG significantly
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reduces the productivity of a person trying to get serious writing done. I
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believe that these were studies of documentation producers and that they found
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that users of WYSIWYG spend a lot of time formatting and reformatting to get
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visual appearance when they should be writing content. In other words, the
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process of wrting content then formatting is more productive that formatting as
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you go and WYSIWYG tends to lead people to format as they go.
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I guess that we are not talking letters and memos here, but reports, books,
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etc. and this makes a difference. But the bottom line is, no body has ever
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shown me anything that proves WYSIWYG makes for more productive writing...
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I also have to admit that I generally use WYSIWYG...
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Bill Willis
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From: nate@seurat.VIS.ColoState.Edu (CVL staff member Nate Sammons)
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Subject: Re: P5-90 MHz beats SGI R4000-100MHz.
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Date: 4 Oct 1994 17:01:19 GMT
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I think some people are missing the point about SGIs. First, a little about
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myself. I run a lab of 7 SGIs and a linux box (more to come, probably).
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Linux is great for UNIX and X. SGIs, OTOH, have a *lot* of custom
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hardware for doing 3D calcs very fast. They havn't had a *really* fast
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CPU in the past (the R8000, of course, is different), but they have
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had very good SMP (in the challenge and onyx series) and extraordinary
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3D graphics (look at the specs for a Reality Engine 2 sometime).
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So, this is somewhat like the "Mac vs. PC" crusades that are always going on.
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Each machine has it's strong points, and each is the "best solution" for
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some people.
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BTW, I would like to see a PC that beats an R8000 (110 SpecINT and 330 SpecFP
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at a measly 75 MHz... better than the new DEC which is 300 SpecINT and
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500 SpecFP, but at 300 MHz), but that's another story.
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-nate
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--
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Nate Sammons <nate@vis.colostate.edu>
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System Administrator - CSU Computer Visualization Laboratory
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From: mah@ka4ybr.com (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
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Subject: Re: Where is infomagic?
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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 20:01:23 GMT
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FORSEILLES STEPHAN (sforseil@vub.ac.be) wrote:
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: I tried to mail infomagic.com but it bounced...
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: Did they change their IP or did they just shut down theeir business?
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The move to Arizona has not been without its difficulties... chief of
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which is getting the T1 line installed by SouthWestern Bell! So
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communications has been difficult. Mail should have been forwarded,
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but there have been some problems there also. The phone numbers should
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be working now. Also, if you need to send mail, you may direct it to:
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infomagic@ka4ybr.atlanta.com
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or
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infomagic@ka4ybr.com
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or
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infomagic@ka4ybr.atl.ga.us
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And I'll call them directly with your questions and orders.
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We apologise for the delay. :(
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BUT! The next Linux Developers' Resource CD set is being pressed at
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this moment and should be shipping aroung Oct. 10!
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Thanks for your support,
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- Mark, Joel, Kim, Patty, and Fred
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"Linux! Guerrilla UNIX Development Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus."
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Mark A. Horton ka4ybr mah@ka4ybr.atlanta.com
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P.O. Box 747 Decatur GA US 30031-0747 mah@ka4ybr.atl.ga.us
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+1.404.371.0291 : 33 45 31 N / 084 16 59 W mah@ka4ybr.com
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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From: miguel@carbono.quimica.uniovi.es (Miguel Alvarez Blanco)
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 12:12:06 GMT
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Richard L. Goerwitz (goer@quads.uchicago.edu) wrote:
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: naoumov@physics.unc.edu (Sergei Naoumov) writes:
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: Another point: TeX will give you low-level control over your document.
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: But frankly I don't give a damn. Once the referees, copy editors, lay-
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: out goons, and editors get their hands on my MS it's not going to look
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: like what I gave them, anyway. So who wants to twiddle kerning pairs?
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: Just bang the sucker out, I say, and don't be so anal-retentive.
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Really? This must be in your own field, because some journals of the
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APS, like Physical Review, accept LaTeX documents by e-mail (in source!)
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and use LaTeX in producing the final document. So I want to twiddle not
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only kerning pairs, but everything in my documents, because I know that
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the way I see them is the way the final reader will see them. BTW, the
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e-mail process is far faster than the usual method of submission; even
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if the only advantage of LaTeX were this, I'll take it over that myriad
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of brain dead 'clicky' Windows word processors.
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Another important thing: I'm by no means a typist, nor want to be one.
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Why on earth should I care of the intrincate problems of document
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typesetting when a program can do it for me?
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I won't claim that LaTeX is a good multilingual processor, but my master
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thesis was written on it, in spanish, without troubles. Sure, Hebrew, Kanji
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and lots of other languages are not there, but at least it's a step forward.
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BTW, I use vi as the editor for my LaTeX documents, so I'm probably brain
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dead myself :-)
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Cheers,
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Miguel
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Miguel Alvarez Blanco | "All that is gold does not glitter,
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miguel@hobbit.quimica.uniovi.es | not all those who wander are lost."
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miguel@carbono.quimica.uniovi.es | Bilbo Baggins.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: cws9669@ultb.isc.rit.edu (C.W. Southern)
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Subject: Does all SCO software run on Linux
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Reply-To: cws9669@ultb.rit.edu ()
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 22:31:30 GMT
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With the proper drivers install into the kernel, does most of SCO's
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software run on a Linux box. I hear all the time of Wordperfect
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running what about other software for SCO.
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chris.
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--
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Chris Southern RIT Computer Science
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E-mail: cws9669@ultb.rit.edu WWW: http://ultb.rit.edu/~cws9669
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From: edg@tt740
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Subject: PHONE for ACC Bookstore Anyone?
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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 18:46:00 GMT
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Does anyone have the phone for ACC Bookstore? They are Linux CD/book
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disktributors.
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^^^^^^
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Ed Gonzalez
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edg@comm.mot.com
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From: raoul@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Raoul Golan)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
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Subject: Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one?
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 15:34:03 +1000
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nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu (Nate Williams) writes:
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>In article <36djkn$nm8@girtab.usc.edu>, Po-Han Lin <plin@girtab.usc.edu> wrote:
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>>386bsd is monolithic (controlled I guess), while linux is non-monolithic.
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>You were misinformed. Both Linux and the BSD's use monolithic kernels.
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>For a fun discussion of this, there is a series of articles were Linus
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>and Andy Tanenbaum 'discussed' the merits of both of these when Linux
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>was in it's infancy.
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I think Po-Han misunderstood what 'monolithic' means. He referred
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to monolithic as meaning controlled, whereas monolithic - as opposed
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to microkernel - is really a description of the OS design.
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Both BSD and Linux are monolithic in this respect.
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In any case, one has to qualify what is mean by "controlled".
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Many say that BSD is tightly controlled by the BSD core team,
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whereas Linux is developed through a loose, uncentralised,
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group of programmers.
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My understanding is that anyone can contribute to BSD as well,
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so that the real difference is that whereas a team decides
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what goes into BSD, only one person decides what goes into
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Linux (namely, Linus). Big deal.
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--
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Raoul Golan, Consultant for Object Oriented P/L, at =Those who have put out
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Intelligent Networks Development, Telecom Australia =the people's eyes
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Also student at Macquarie Univ. School of History, =despise them for their
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Philosophy and Politics. EMAIL:raoul@ind.tansu.com.au =blindness. - Milton
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From: dcflood@u.washington.edu (David Flood)
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Subject: Re: Linux doesn't like my cache
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 05:25:40 GMT
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Well, both other settings bomb out also so I guess that the cache is out for
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now. Anyone got a test for cache mem chips?
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dcflood@u.washington.edu
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The above opinions are mine alone and do not reflect anyone elses.
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Besides, who wants my opinion anyway?
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From: michaelb@hobbie.bocaraton.ibm.com (Michael Rogero Brown (Sys Admin))
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Subject: Re: where to get the texbook
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 21:54:42 GMT
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CVL staff member Nate Sammons (nate@matisse.VIS.ColoState.Edu) wrote:
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: The book from O'Reilley is good for configuring Tex, but it doesn't
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: cover hardly _any_ issues in using TeX (like how to do left and
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: right justification)
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It's not supposed too!
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The intent of the book is to help you get TeX (and its myriad programs) up and
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running. You're expected to use other books (like Knuth's TeXbook) to learn
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how to use TeX et al.
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That's why its title "Making TeX Work" not 'How to Use TeX'.
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==========All Opinions Expressed are MINE, not IBM's==============
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Michael Rogero Brown (*IX System Administrator)
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IBM (uK Development) TEL/TIE (407) 443-6400
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Boca Raton, FL Internet: mikal@bocaraton.ibm.com
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If you think I speak for IBM, then I've got some swamp land^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H
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real estate to sell you.
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GCM/CS d-- h-- s g+ p1 au a w+ v C++$ UA++++$ US+ UH+ P+>++ L>++ 3 N(+++) K
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W--- M-- V>-- -p+ Y+ t 5++ j(++) r !G v+ b+++ !D b--- e+++ u+ h+ f !r n x?
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From: jjofre@ritz.mordor.com (Jaime Jofre)
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Subject: Re: X News-reader for LinuX
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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 01:13:33 GMT
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Marc Fraioli (mjf@clark.net) wrote:
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: In article 0019154A@indirect.com, cauthorn@indirect.com (Robert S. Cauthorn) writes:
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: >But are any of the X news readers threaded? I haven't found one yet, unless
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: >I'm using older versions of xvnews and xrn.
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: Not really, that I know of, but some are close. I use xvnews 2.2.1, and
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: although it's not threaded, it will sort the messages alphabetically by
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: subject, and it's smart enough to ignore "Re:"s at the beginning. This
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: is not quite the same as being fully threaded, but it seems close enough
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: for me. Also, DEC has a version of xrn, called dxrn, which does do threading.
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: So far, however, I have not found a way to enable this automatically-- you
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: have to choose "thread articles" off a menu every single time you enter
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: a group. This is quite annoying. Also, dxrn wants either the DECwindows
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: or Motif widgets. I've never seen it running on Linux, although I suspect
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: the Motif version should work (I've built it on Ultrix, OSF/1, SunOS, A/UX,
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: and SCO).
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: >Incidentally, is there a faq or something that lists the major X internet
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: >clients? I'd love to see it in case I'm missing something.
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: Dunno, but it would be long...I use xvnews, Mosaic, xarchie, and mftp on Linux.
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: I use Mosaic for hitting gophers as well as Web servers.
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: Marc Fraioli | "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist- "
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: mjf@clark.net | - Last words of Union General John Sedgwick,
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: | Battle of Spotsylvania Court House, U.S. Civil War
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From: amichalo@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Aaron K. Michalove)
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Subject: Re: New Linux Distribution
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 05:18:05 GMT
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What the DOS user REALLY needs for using LINUX....
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GOOD DOCUMENTATION that relates common DOS commands to UNIX commands.
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The "problem" is with the complexity and unfamiliarity of the
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UNIX commands. I think that a good documentation project (hello LDP
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members!) for UNIX commands, indexed by their DOS siblings, as well as a
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section for all those "crazy little things" DOS just doesn't offer, like
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a section on "If you are on 'the NET'..." - people who are using LINUX at
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home have no need, unless they have access to a dialup, to have IRC and
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TELNET and all that stuff cluttering their little minds.
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There should definitely be a section on multiuser - like how to
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change passwords, permissions, ownership, how to read "drwxr-xr-x", etc.
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I would actually like to have a printout of a complete listing
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like this next to my Linux Box :-)
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-Aaron
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.os.linux.help
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From: leeuw@cwi.nl (Andre M.A. van Leeuwen)
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Subject: Re: Idek 8617 + ???? @ 1280x1024x(76-80)Hz
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 14:01:53 GMT
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In article <37115k$i1f@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, jsun@athena.mit.edu (Jim Sun) writes:
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|> bgrigg@unicoi.uucp (Bryon G. Rigg) wrote:
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|> >I am purchasing an Idek 8617 monitor and want reccommendations for a video
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|> >accellerator. The Idek reports to have refresh rates up 80Hz for 1280x1024.
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|> >I am looking for a card that can support this.
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|> >I will use this for Windoze and Linux/XFree86 so windows performance is more
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|> >important than dos performance. I have around $275(US) to spend and want the
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|> >best performance at the highest refresh rate.
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|> >I have looking at prices and foound the ATI Ultra Pro 2Mb (Mach 32) fits
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|> >within my operational and monetary constraints. Can this board give me
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|> >the refresh rates that I am looking for?
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|>
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|> I don't think any card will do 80hz at 1280x1024 in Windoze; due to the
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|> moron-proof user interface, manufacture would have to create a special
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|> entry for the IDEK: 1280x1024 on 135mhz, which will fry other monitors,
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|> most of which are maxed out at 110mhz.
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|> As for XF86, it's a completely different story; any card that supports
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|> 135mhz dot-clock will do. However, I think ATI GUP (mach32) maxes out
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|> at 110mhz. A number of 864 cards can handle 135mhz; you can get Diamond
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|> Stl64 for $265 if you can trade-in any garbage; now, according to the XF
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|> doc, Diamond finally changed their policy towards XF86.
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|>
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|> Jim
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The ATI GUP with 2mb VRAM I have performs just fine, using a dotclock of 135Mhz
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it displays 1280x1024 resolution 256 colors at refreshrate 74Hz.
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Be sure to get the Pro version with VRAM instead of DRAM, otherwise the memory
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can't cope with the speed resulting in 'snow' when moving windows around.
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|Drs. Andre M.A. van Leeuwen leeuw@cwi.nl|
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|Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science (CWI)|
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|Kruislaan 413, 1098 SJ Amsterdam, The Netherlands|
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From: mkshenk@u.washington.edu (Mary Shenk)
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: Idek 8617 + ???? @ 1280x1024x(76-80)Hz
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 00:37:49 GMT
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In article <37115k$i1f@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
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Jim Sun <jsun@athena.mit.edu> wrote:
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>bgrigg@unicoi.uucp (Bryon G. Rigg) wrote:
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>>I am purchasing an Idek 8617 monitor and want reccommendations for a video
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>>accellerator. The Idek reports to have refresh rates up 80Hz for 1280x1024.
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<snip>
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>I don't think any card will do 80hz at 1280x1024 in Windoze; due to the
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>moron-proof user interface, manufacture would have to create a special
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>entry for the IDEK: 1280x1024 on 135mhz, which will fry other monitors,
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>most of which are maxed out at 110mhz.
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>As for XF86, it's a completely different story; any card that supports
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>135mhz dot-clock will do. However, I think ATI GUP (mach32) maxes out
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>at 110mhz. A number of 864 cards can handle 135mhz; you can get Diamond
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Wrong. As I just said, the GUP has a 135Mhz pixel clock. It also takes more
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than 135 to drive 1280x1024 @80hz...at least in all cases I am aware of.
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From: ray@eskimo.com (Raymond Kraft)
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Subject: DooM: Sound but no Music?
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 12:48:51 GMT
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Somebody posted a message about this a little while ago, but I
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didn't see any solutions posted. In particular, I'm running xdoom
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under Linux 1.0 with the 2.9 sounddriver and a SoundBlaster 16 ASP.
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I hear all the sound effects, but I don't hear any music. I made sure
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the the music volume slider was turned up, so that does not appear to
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be the problem.
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If anyone else has encountered this and has any kind suggestions, I'd be
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grateful. Thanks in advance.
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--
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-Ray Kraft
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Seattle, Washington
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ray@eskimo.com
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From: jik@cam.ov.com (Jonathan I. Kamens)
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Subject: Re: SW Technologies
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 16:06:54 GMT
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In article <3726hn$ihe@delphi.cs.ucla.edu>, edwin@maui.cs.ucla.edu (E. Robert Tisdale) writes:
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|> Marvin Wu is a competent and conscientious Linux workstation vendor.
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That may be your opinion. It is not mine.
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|> He certainly believed your machine was in good working order
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|> when he sent it to you and it has not failed since you sent it back.
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Really? Did the keyboard suddenly magically start generating the Alt-Shift->
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sequence that it couldn't generate for the whole time I had it?
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Has Marvin Wu actually tried to use it as strenuously as I used it while I had
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it? Has he used it to do compute-intensive things for prolonged periods of
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time in a 72-degree room? That's what I was doing with it, and that's the
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environment in which it was failing (I did, incidentally, ask Wu if the room
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was too hot for the machine, and he said that it wasn't). I seriously doubt
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that he has done this kind of testing on the machine.
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|> and you agreed to ship your machine back to SWT
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|> within 30 days for a full refund if you were not satisfied. Marvin Wu
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|> extended this money back guaranty to 60 days then 90 days at your request.
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Wu extended the warrantee because the machine never worked properly and I told
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him that if he didn't extend the warrantee, I was going to ship the machine
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back immediately because I was not satisfied. He had the option of choosing
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to extend the warrantee or have me return the machine, and he chose the
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former. That's his problem, not mine.
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|> Since you have made no attempt to acquire another Linux workstation,
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|> it is not clear that any PC-clone vendor would be able to provide you
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|> with satisfactory service.
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As I told you in E-mail, it is not necessary to experience good service in
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order to know when one is experiencing bad service.
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I've had a number of people contact me and tell me they had similar problems
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with SWT (including someone else who got a machine that didn't work, spent
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months installing replacement parts from SWT to try to get it to work, and
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then finally returned it, only to have the refund check bounce just like mine
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did!). I've read first-hand accounts from a number of people who bought
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Pentium systems from other vendors who were extraordinarily pleased with the
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service they received and who had no hardware problems with the systems at
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all, for a long time after they purchased them. That is as it should be.
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When a vendor ships a machine, the machine should work. If it doesn't, the
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vendor has done something wrong. If that vendor ships machines that don't
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work with some frequency, then there is something wrong with the vendor.
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|> It might even appear that you decided that
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|> you didn't really need or couldn't afford a new workstation sometime
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|> after you made your deal with SWT and that you just strung Marvin Wu
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|> along for three months then tried to beat him out of the shipping costs
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|> as well.
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This accusation is offensive and baseless, notwithstanding the fact that you
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prefix it with "might". I have not bought another machine because I have not
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had time. That's what I told you in E-mail, and I even provided an extensive
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explanation of why I have not had time. Getting married, going on a
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honeymoon, moving into a new apartment, missing almost two work weeks (all of
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which had to be made up) for Jewish holidays, and working sixty- and
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seventy-hour work weeks can eliminate most of a person's free time, you know.
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If anyone seriously believes that I returned the machine to SWT because I
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decided I "didn't really need or couldn't afford a new workstation," I will be
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glad to provide any number of character references -- people who know that I
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would never do what is being suggested, and people who know that I had
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continuous problems with the machine for three months and finally returned it
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only as a last resort.
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|> It appears to me that Marvin Wu made an honest effort to live up to his part
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|> of the agreement
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He may have made an effort, honest or otherwise, but he never succeeded. My
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machine never worked.
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Bob, are you speaking from the point of view of a satisfied customer of SWT or
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something more? Are you and Wu acquaintenaces, perhaps, or even friends? You
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did tell me in E-mail that you are "on reasonably good terms with Marvin Wu."
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What exactly does that mean?
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--
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Jonathan Kamens | OpenVision Technologies, Inc. | jik@cam.ov.com
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From: mah@ka4ybr.com (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
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Subject: Re: where to get the texbook
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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 04:03:42 GMT
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Hans Petter Fasteng (hansf@kfdata.no) wrote:
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: I hope to learn how to make docs in tex, I also hoped to make info pages and
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: I think I need the texbook to do this. Where can I get this book or books?
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: -Hans
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O'Reilly has a new book out... "Making TeX Work" that is very good. You can
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find it in most computer bookstores or via (I think this is right!)
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info@ora.com
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They are also on WWW somewhere... stumbled on them whilst playing with
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Mosaic. :)
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- Mark
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--
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"Linux! Guerrilla UNIX Development Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus."
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Mark A. Horton ka4ybr mah@ka4ybr.atl.ga.us
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P.O. Box 747 Decatur GA US 30031-0747 mah@ka4ybr.com
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+1.404.371.0291 33 45 31 N / 084 16 59 W
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From: mah@ka4ybr.com (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
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Subject: Re: Linux mentioned in PC Week
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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 04:20:34 GMT
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Maxim Spivak (maxims@ucsee.EECS.Berkeley.EDU) wrote:
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: > Without DOS and Windows the world of computing would probably
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: >be a lot more developed today than what it is. Everything that
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: Well... Don't forget that MS targets the _general_ market, i.e. your
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: grandma, grandpa, and dog in addition to you, the superuser. For
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: _general_ users, MS Windows with Windows apps is probably a better choice
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: than Linux. But not necessarily for me or you.
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Oh... I dunno... my 74 year-old Dad seems to be pretty happy with
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his Linux system... his only gripe is that there don't seem to be
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any uucp sites to connect to in the Ft. Myers, FL area!
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(BTW: anyone down there that can help him out?)
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(My dog's still saving up for a special keyboard :) ... )
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: >MicroSloth gets on the market today is supposed to be new and
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: >groundbreaking technology...although most of what they have to offer
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: >has already been implemented in the unix world long ago. MS has been
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: Yeah, but could the 8088 in 1981 run UNIX? Probably--Microsoft did buy
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: Xenix. But Lotus 123 was written for DOS, which was what probably
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: solidified MS-DOS as _the_ major OS for Intel boxes.
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I kinda thought that the IBM PC did that by legitimising a
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hitherto fragmented market. And wasn't Lotus 123 stolen ..errr..
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"borrowed as in look-and-feel" from Visicalc? I can't remember
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exactly... old-timer's disease, you know... :)
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: I personally think that there's place in the computing world both for
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: various Unices and MS-Windows-type OS's. They are generally used by
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: different audiences, with only a little overlap.
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Actually, I agree with you here... I've given up trying to
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convert the world to Linux. If they're happy with DOS and
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Windows (and the wonderful stability they have <g>), leave them
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be. Use something like samba and connect to a Linux server
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for file sharing and such, but leave them happy and in the
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same state of mastery/confusion as they've come to love.
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Just my .0000005 cents worth.
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- Mark
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--
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... Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.
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Mark A. Horton ka4ybr mah@ka4ybr.atl.ga.us
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P.O. Box 747 Decatur GA US 30031-0747 mah@ka4ybr.com
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+1.404.371.0291 33 45 31 N / 084 16 59 W
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