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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Sat, 8 Oct 94 21:13:11 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #904
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Linux-Misc Digest #904, Volume #2 Sat, 8 Oct 94 21:13:11 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Lynx under Linux (Bryan Vold)
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Re: Split this group! (.help) (Eric Youngdale)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Richard L. Goerwitz)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Rob Malouf)
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Re: Diamond Stealth 64 PCI drivers (Joseph Stanley (Joe Wisniewski))
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Re: Flame on the attitude of Linux towards GCC development (Mr D R Barlow)
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Yggdrasil Fall '94 Linux CD-ROM (Ambarish Malpani)
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Re: Mosaic for Linux? (Michael_Nelson)
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Re: How to pronounce Linux?? (Kevin Lentin)
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DOes Linux runs Xenix binaries? (andrea gozzi)
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Xcalendar - seg fault (Bill McCarthy)
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Re: DooM: Sound but no Music? (Terry Evans)
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Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one? (Terry Lambert)
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Re: New Linux Distribution (Erik Troan)
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ftp and telnet freeze! (Ted Harding)
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Re: Mystery Chip...AMD (Jay Ashworth)
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From: btv@ldl.HealthPartners.COM (Bryan Vold)
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Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.misc,comp.infosystems.www.providers,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: Lynx under Linux
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Date: 5 Oct 1994 12:37:09 -0500
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In article <36mu3p$fda@Tut.MsState.Edu>,
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Mubashir Cheema <cheema@earth.sparco.com> wrote:
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>
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>I have noticed that when I run Lynx under Linux all available
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>options get highlighted instead of the ones I move my
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>cursor to.
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Download the sources for the newest version (lynx2-3-1). It has
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the linux-ncurses entry that I submitted. They sort of screwed up
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the entry though. Edit the Makefile and find the entry for
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linux-ncurses. You need to add -DFANCY_CURSES to the defines, this is
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the option which allows the nice looking (highlighted, not reversed)
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links. I have also changed my setup to use optimization (makes a large
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difference in the speed! ;-) ). Then compile with:
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make linux-ncurses
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>The guest account automatically recognizes the terminal type of
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>user logging in. If for some reason it can't, it prompts the user
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>for that information. I do not suspect that the guest account is
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>not detecting the terminal type correctly, since I see the same
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>behaviour when I run lynx on my machine under xterm, vt100 etc. on
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>this machine.
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Don't know about this one.
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-Bryan
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--
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btv@ldl.healthpartners.com "The relentless pursuit of perfection"
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Linux -- The Choice of a GNU Generation "Make it so, Number One."
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From: eric@aib.com (Eric Youngdale)
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Subject: Re: Split this group! (.help)
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 22:15:09 GMT
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In article <36v3a5$fuu@xivic.bo.open.de>,
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Wolfgang Schelongowski <ws@xivic.bo.open.de> wrote:
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>>The bottom line is that we're being overwhelmed by loads of information:
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>>mostly FAQs, dozens of responses to the same question, and posts in
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>>inappropriate places. New groups will not solve the problem because they'll
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>>simply provide "new clean cultures for bacteria to grow".
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>
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>>The solution in my opinion is three-fold:
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>[details bobbitted]
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Good god - this has become a verb even in Germany.
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>>This is an instance where information overload is clogging up the ability to
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>>transfer relavent information back in forth in a resonable manner.
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>
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>>Comments?
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>
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>Your implicit assumption and that of most other posters in the preceding
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>thread is that such newsgroups must be under the Big7 i.e. comp.*.
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>Drop that assumption and create _regional_ groups. There are two
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>that I know of, i.e. aus.computers.linux and de.comp.os.linux. I don't
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>get the former one except via crosspostings, but I do read the latter
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>one.
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I would like to second this. Splitting rarely accomplishes anything
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because so many people cross-post, and it does nothing about the fundamental
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problem which is that there are simply too many posts for most of the active
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developers to follow. By creating regional groups, the local experts can
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assist their own local users, and the load is low enough that it is not
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overwhelming.
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-Eric
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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From: goer@quads.uchicago.edu (Richard L. Goerwitz)
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Reply-To: goer@midway.uchicago.edu
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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 17:48:59 GMT
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In article <36um5t$rpq@bosnia.pop.psu.edu> barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes:
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>>Of course, this is all moot for Linux, since there *is* no multilingual word
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>>processor for Unix (though some stabs are being made in that direction).
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>
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>Hm, FrameMaker has had multilingual support for a while now.
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>(currently Brazilian Portuguese, US and UK English, Canadian French,
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>Catalan, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Norwegian,
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>Nynorsk, Portuguese, Swiss German, Spanish, and Swedish)
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Those are all ISO 8859-1 languages. You can get those without even
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trying. I'm talking about things like Japanese, Arabic, Greek, and
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so on. While multilingual in one sense, apps that do the languages
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you're talking about are basically just using a single (Latin) script.
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Guys, the race is on to capture growing markets in China, India, and
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perhaps Russia and Islamic countries, and Unix is way behind the Mac
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(WorldScript) and NT (Unicode); probably behind NeXTStep, too, though
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I don't know what they've been doing lately....
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--
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-Richard L. Goerwitz goer%midway@uchicago.bitnet
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goer@midway.uchicago.edu rutgers!oddjob!ellis!goer
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From: malouf@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rob Malouf)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: 8 Oct 1994 16:58:42 GMT
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In article <1994Oct8.142644.8825@midway.uchicago.edu>,
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Richard L. Goerwitz <goer@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
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>Also, I'd like to know what form TeX will accept those alternate languages
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>in. If it will accept, say, Unicode, and will allow me to use an editor
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>that displays "foreign" characters correctly on the screen (going in the
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>correct direction), then I'd say TeX has made it into the 90s.
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>
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>So far I've not seen evidence of this. But then I only check on such
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>things about once a year. I don't have time to follow what has been, for
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>many years now, a dead end.
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TeX has never cared about ASCII. All it cares about are charcodes,
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its own internal representation of what characters "mean", and these
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can easily be changed. For example, I once wrote a small TeX file to
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map the accented characters on a VT220 to the appropriate accent +
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character sequence. That way, I could enter accented characters using
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a two-key compose sequence, and they appeared in the editor and in the
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final printed form as a single accented character. The only
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limitation is that TeX can only handle 8-bit characters.
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This capability has always been with TeX, and in fact it was one of
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its original reasons for being. When it was developed, Stanford
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University had terminals with odd extended keyboards that included
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keys for many common mathematical symbols. TeX was designed so that
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these terminals could be used to their full potential. Now, I agree
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that this feature of TeX is not well exploited, but that is another
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issue. Right now I am working on an IPA console font for Linux and a
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LaTeX style file to go with it. Once I get it done I will be able to
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type up my Dagaare word lists without having to type a single
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backslash.
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(P.S. Sorry if this is hard to follow. I'm only on my first cup of
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coffee.)
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Rob Malouf
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malouf@csli.stanford.edu
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From: wiz@rcsg30.eld.ford.com (Joseph Stanley (Joe) Wisniewski)
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Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth 64 PCI drivers
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Date: 6 Oct 1994 13:18:21 GMT
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In article <1994Oct6.075532.13841@cs.wm.edu>, asharr@cs.wm.edu (Allen S. Harris) writes:
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|> I purchased a new computer a couple of months ago including
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|> a Diamond Stealth 64 PCI video card. I have since decided
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|> that linux is a very good thing, and would like to put it
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|> on my machine. Problem: xfree doesn't support the
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|> Diamond Stealth 64. I don't blame them, but I would still
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I had read that Diamond finally loosened up and gave the the XFree folks what
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they needed to support Diamond cards. I can't remember where I read it, so I
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can't go back for more definite information. Sorry.
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|> like to run x in extended video modes (1024x768 would be
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|> nice). Does anyone know what options are available to me?
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|> ie are there specs available for the Diamond Stealth 64
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|> so that I might (gulp) write a driver for it. I know that
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|> Diamond's non-disclosure policy kind of hampers that
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|> possibility, but I am hoping that there are other people
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|> out there who would like to/ are running linux with the
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|> Stealth 64.
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|> Any help would be _greatly_ appreciated.
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|> Thanks,
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|> Scott Harris
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|>
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|> --
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|> email at: asharr@cs.wm.edu
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|>
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|>
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--
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Joseph S. Wisniewski | The views expressed are purely my own, and do not
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Ford Motor Company | reflect those of the Ford Motor Company, or any of
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Project Sapphire | its affiliates.
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wiz@rcsg30.eld.ford.com | "any color you want -- as long as it's black"
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From: xuuah@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr D R Barlow)
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Subject: Re: Flame on the attitude of Linux towards GCC development
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Date: 8 Oct 1994 22:18:15 +0100
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In article <CxAIHx.BKv@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>,
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xjzhu@math.uwaterloo.ca (Xiaojun Zhu) writes:
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>I want to start a flame here. Please feel free to flame me as well.
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In three newsgroups? That was a constructive thing to do, wasn't it?
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>I have just waited for so long and tired to hear about RSN. I am also
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>wondering the RSN is how soon?
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Sometime after it successfully compiles XFree, I'd hope.
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>I have some template class code which compiles perfectly
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>well under gcc 2.6.0 but failed under gcc 2.5.8, I don't even have
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>the opportunity to become the bug reporter, you are not suppose
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>to report a bug in gcc 2.5.8 which doesn't occur in gcc 2.6.0 any more.
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If you want to run gcc 2.6.0, join the gcc channel, install the
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snapshot releases as they are available and test it. I'm sure your
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bug reports (should you find any bugs) will be appreciated.
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Suggesting that everyone else should run it too, on the other hand, is
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stupid. Not smart at all.
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>There are alwyas some kind soul offers to put the newer version in an
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>FTP site, please Don't say don't, OK! That's your personal opinion.
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It is on an ftp site. Join the GCC channel and find out where.
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>Flame with me or flame me!!! It's a free world, isn't it?
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Do you not have anything better to do?
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Daniel
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From: ambarish@Cadence.COM (Ambarish Malpani)
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Subject: Yggdrasil Fall '94 Linux CD-ROM
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Reply-To: ambarish@Cadence.COM
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Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 01:06:48 GMT
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Hi Netland,
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Just bought the Yggdrasil Linux CD-ROM. Am having major problems installing
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stuff. Has anyone else had a similar experience or any advice?
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I have a Pentium PC with a Soundblaster 16 bit card and a Mitsumi CD-ROM. For some
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reason, when I tried to boot from the Yggdrasil floppy, it would refuse to recognize
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my CD-ROM. (My CD-ROM is a port address of 0x230 and an interrupt(IRQ) of 11).
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The only way I could get to the CD-ROM was to first boot to DOS (after commenting out
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my HIMEM and EMM drivers and some soundblaster stuff).
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Once I had the basic DOS up, I had to do runlinux from the CD-ROM.
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Once I got things running this way (after many painful hours), I tried installing as
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much of Linux as possible on my hard drive. The installation scripts for the
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components of Linux seems broken - I kept getting errors of File not found etc.
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Finally, I wrote a shell script to do a lot of the installation by hand.
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The Linux still doesn't recognize my CD-ROM unless I boot through DOS. My machine
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still hangs if I try to run Linux directly from the disk (without having the CD-ROM
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available) - I seem to still not have some of the files needed at bootup.
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Are my problems due to Linux, Yggdrasil or my stupidity/hardware?
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Please help/comment,
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Ambarish
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ambarish@cadence.com
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P.S. Is anyone at Yggdrasil listening?
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From: nelson@seahunt.imat.com (Michael_Nelson)
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Subject: Re: Mosaic for Linux?
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Date: 4 Oct 1994 01:45:44 GMT
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Reply-To: nelson@seahunt.imat.com
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Daniel MORRISON (draker@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
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-> I've been trying to compile NCSA Mosaic under Linux 1.1.13 and having no luck.
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-> I can't seem to configure it properly - can't find a bunch of files in an Xm
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-> directory. Can anyone help?
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You need the Motif package (not included with Linux, but available
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for about $150) in order to compile Mosaic. If you don't have Motif and
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don't want to buy it, you can get a version of Mosaic that is compiled with
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static libraries from sunsite or tsx-11... it works just fine under Linux
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and does NOT require you to have Motif.
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- Michael -
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Michael Nelson nelson@seahunt.imat.com
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San Francisco, CA FAX: 1-415-621-2608
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From: kevinl@fangorn.cs.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lentin)
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Subject: Re: How to pronounce Linux??
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Date: 4 Oct 1994 01:57:29 GMT
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Inge Cubitt (inge@drealm.org) wrote:
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> Kevin Lentin (kevinl@fangorn.cs.monash.edu.au) wrote:
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> : Personally, one thing that does get on my nerves is people pronouncing it
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> : 'Linix' which just seems completely non-sensical.
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> Is that 'linn icks' or 'line icks' ?
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:-) Both really. Although the first annoys me more than the second.
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--
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[==================================================================]
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[ Kevin Lentin |___/~\__/~\___/~~~~\__/~\__/~\_| ]
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[ kevinl@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au |___/~\/~\_____/~\______/~\/~\__| ]
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[ Macintrash: 'Just say NO!' |___/~\__/~\___/~~~~\____/~~\___| ]
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[==================================================================]
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From: agozzi@world.std.com (andrea gozzi)
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Subject: DOes Linux runs Xenix binaries?
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Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 23:44:10 GMT
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The title says it all...
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Thanks...
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From: bmccarth@gulfaero.com (Bill McCarthy)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Xcalendar - seg fault
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Date: 3 Oct 1994 22:11:14 -0400
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Hiya:
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Just ftp'd xcalendar from sunsite - pub/Linux/X11/xapps/datebooks. Uncompressed
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and untarred okay. Followed the README re cp-ing the files to the appropriate
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places. Typed xcalendar & and got segmentation fault. This, quite frankly, is
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the first time I have had this happen, so I'm really not sure what to do to
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remedy the problem. Hints/suggestions? TIA!
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Bill McCarthy
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bmccarth@gulfaero.com
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"Isn't it pretty to think so."
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TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT\__Jake Barnes___________________________
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LinuX + i486dx2/66
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usual disclaimer
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From: tevans@sal.cs.utah.edu (Terry Evans)
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Subject: Re: DooM: Sound but no Music?
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Date: 8 Oct 1994 21:17:10 GMT
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Reply-To: tevans@cs.utah.edu
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Raymond Kraft (ray@eskimo.com) wrote:
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: Somebody posted a message about this a little while ago, but I
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: didn't see any solutions posted. In particular, I'm running xdoom
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: under Linux 1.0 with the 2.9 sounddriver and a SoundBlaster 16 ASP.
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: I hear all the sound effects, but I don't hear any music. I made sure
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: the the music volume slider was turned up, so that does not appear to
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: be the problem.
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: If anyone else has encountered this and has any kind suggestions, I'd be
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: grateful. Thanks in advance.
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: -Ray Kraft
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: Seattle, Washington
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: ray@eskimo.com
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I have the exact same problem on my SB16, as do many other people. I
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understand that Hannu (the designer of the VoxWare sound drivers) is
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working on getting the music working for DOOM.
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Terry Evans
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tevans@cs.utah.edu
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--
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This is a sample .sig file
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From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
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Subject: Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one?
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 06:14:35 GMT
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In article <36qeaf$jt4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> mbandy@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (Harf) writes:
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] plin@girtab.usc.edu (Po-Han Lin) writes:
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[ ... ]
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] >4) more compliance to POSIX (I think standards are good, or am I wrong)
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] Linux is more compliant to POSIX.
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Prove it. What output did you get when you ran NIST PCTS and/or VSX?
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I think any claims of standards conformance without going through a
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validation suite and acceptance process is specious no matther which
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group the claims come from.
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Same thing goes for iBCS2 or other ABI conformance, for that matter.
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Terry Lambert
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terry@cs.weber.edu
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
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or previous employers.
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From: ewt@tipper.oit.unc.edu (Erik Troan)
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Subject: Re: New Linux Distribution
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Date: 6 Oct 1994 13:42:32 GMT
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In article <36urfu$sie@agate.berkeley.edu>,
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Josef Dalcolmo <josefd@albert.ssl.berkeley.edu> wrote:
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>In article <36c1rr$h01@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
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>Charles Blair <ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:
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>> I suspect a lot of novice users never use sed and awk, and that many
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>>more use vi.
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>
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>I doubt vi appeals to a windows user. Sed and awk may be replaced by a more
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>general and better readable scripting language: python.
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It won't appeal to the Windows user, but it will appear to the Unix guru
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the user asks to help fix a problem. It's not Unix w/o vi.
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Don't forget less used. Python may be good, but it's not ubiquitous. If you
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leave out sed and awk you're breaking a lot of shell scripts. How many
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makefiles use sed or awk in them? None of those will work if you remove them.
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Erik
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"Like a fool I let dreams become great expectations" - Chess
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Erik Troan = ewt@sunsite.unc.edu = http://sunsite.unc.edu/ewt
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From: Ted Harding <Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk>
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Subject: ftp and telnet freeze!
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Date: 8 Oct 1994 20:58:14 -0400
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Reply-To: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
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For what it may be worth, can I report the following. Running DIP/SLIP
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from Linux machine A (at home) I can telnet easily to non-Linux machine B
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(local Univ mail server) and while logged in to machine B can telnet
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easily to Linux machine C (in my office). While thus logged in to C,
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I can monitor (ps -ax) what is happening on C.
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Now I try to telnet direct from A to C. At A I get the message
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"connected to C.C.C.C", and it hangs.
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On the other channel, I do "ps -ax" at C, and get the following:
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2009 ? S 0:00 -A.A.A.A: connected
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where in the above "A.A.A.A" etc are the FQDNs of the machines.
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And there it hangs. Is this a clue? (I should add, that the same hang
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occurs if the "telnet C" from A is the only activity.) Both A and C
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are running Slackware Linux 2.0 (A = 1.0.8, C = 1.0.9).
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Ted. (Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk)
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From: jra@zeus.IntNet.net (Jay Ashworth)
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: Mystery Chip...AMD
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Date: 8 Oct 1994 13:19:10 -0400
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garcia@ece.cmu.edu (Brad Matthew Garcia) writes:
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>I heard that AMD's version is more reliable than Intel's, and that many
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>people have overclocked it to 80 MHz with no problems. There was even
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>a rumor going around that AMD would start to sell them as 486DX2-80's.
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>If you see an AMD 486DX2-80 system for sale, I guess the rumor is true.
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In the current Computer Shopper. From at least 5 different vendors.
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Guess it's true...
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Or, maybe it _is_ a new chip. Either way... I guess it's fast enough for
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me...
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Cheers,
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-- jr 'Vrrrrrrrroooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm' a
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--
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Jay R. Ashworth High Technology Systems Consulting Ashworth
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Designer Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation & Associates
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ka1fjx/4 +1 813 790 7592
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jra@baylink.com "Hey! Do any of you guys know how to Madison?" NIC: jra3
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