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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 94 01:13:13 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #910
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Linux-Misc Digest #910, Volume #2 Mon, 10 Oct 94 01:13:13 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Security hole in smail - be careful! (Jim Jagielski)
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Re: X News-reader for LinuX (Jason Haar)
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Re: talk/talkd and ^Z (Benjamin John Walter)
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Re: Newbies? (was Re: Hmmm) (A computer genius)
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Re: Why doesn't EMAIL work? (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer))
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Re: HHTP/HTML editor for Linux?? (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer))
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Re: Real stupid question. What is Motif?? :) (Joseph W. Vigneau)
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Re: Yggdrasil Linux Plug and Play CD ver1.1 ? (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
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Re: How to pronounce Linux?? (Andrew Robert Ellsworth)
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Newbies? (was Re: Hmmm) (Noel Maddy)
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Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree (Maxim Spivak)
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SCSI error...need help (Satya Reddy)
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Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one? (Jason Saunders)
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Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one? (Andrew Gillham)
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Re: Wanted: True color pix-viewer
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Re: ftp + term suggestions
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Re: Linux doesn't like my cache
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Re: Lilo booting last booted OS.
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Re: New Linux Distribution (Erik Troan)
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From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
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Subject: Re: Security hole in smail - be careful!
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Date: 9 Oct 94 18:45:36 GMT
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Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
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oliver@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Christopher Oliver) writes:
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> I have written a source patch to remove this bug. I have sent the
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>diff to the the original authors as well. I have removed the method of
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>exploition which was included in the original post, but I suggested that
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>the author should write CERT. The patch follows:
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>*** main.c.orig Fri Oct 7 04:31:28 1994
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>- --- main.c Fri Oct 7 04:05:32 1994
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>***************
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>*** 333,338 ****
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>- --- 333,339 ----
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> }
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> if (config_file != save_config_file || arg_second_config_file ||
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>+ arg_debug_file ||
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> arg_director_file || arg_router_file || arg_transport_file ||
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> arg_qualify_file || arg_retry_file || arg_smail_lib_dir ||
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> arg_alias_file || operation_mode == REBUILD_ALIASES)
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This looks like the same one that Ron posted...
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By the way, doing this patch closes the bug, but removes the capability
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of actually _using_ -D/-d as a regular user, which may be undesired.
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The patch I posted a bit ago, isn't as "clean" (i.e. is involves moving
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some code and changing 1 line) but, at least as far as Ron is concerned, may
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a "better" approach (i.e. using fopen_as_user()).
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--
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#include <std/disclaimer.h>
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| Jim Jagielski | jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov | V: 301 286-5964 |
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| NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4 | Greenbelt, MD 20771 | F: 301 286-1719 |
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<< Hey! Your karma just ran over my dogma! >>
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From: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com (Jason Haar)
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Subject: Re: X News-reader for LinuX
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Date: 6 Oct 1994 08:10:13 GMT
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Don Rubin (rubin@setinc.com) wrote:
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: I use XRn and it leaves alot to be desired. Has anyone built
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: xvNews for Linux? I would be interested in hearing about any
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: other X newsreaders too.
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I can't believe no one has mentioned tknews yet! I think it's the best
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one available at the moment (always a moving target that! ;-) and it
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supports...
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THREADS!!!!
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Quite similar in look to NewsWatcher (for those out there who have used
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this Mac newsreader).
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Of course it requires Tcl/TK to run...
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Get it from:
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archive.cis.ohio-state.edu:/pub/tknews
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--
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Cheers,
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Jason
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+------------------------------+------------------------------------------+
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| Jason Haar, European SysAdmin Phone: + 44 (256) 790111 |
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| Motorola Cellular Subscriber Fax: + 44 (256) 790519 |
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| Basingstoke, Hampshire |
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| RG21 1PL, ENGLAND Internet: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com |
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From: ben@tsunami.demon.co.uk (Benjamin John Walter)
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Subject: Re: talk/talkd and ^Z
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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 21:07:00 +0000
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: has anyone else noticed that talk and ytalk really don't like to be
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: suspended under linux?
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: this was true from 0.99.1? up to what i'm using now 1.1.48, and through
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: several versions
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: of net code... just curious if anybody knows why this is...
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I've found that... talk goes pretty hyperactive when I try to suspend
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it!
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Peace, Ben
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--
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/ / (_)__ __ ____ __
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/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a
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/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . .
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From: stevenl@ccnet.com (A computer genius)
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Crossposted-To: alt.fan.linus-torvalds
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Subject: Re: Newbies? (was Re: Hmmm)
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Date: 9 Oct 1994 15:02:34 -0700
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Roderick Hoekstra (rdrckhks@dordt.edu) wrote:
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: Nyaa, I got you all beat. I started with Slackware 1.2.0,
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: Kernal, what, I don't remember right now. (It was a summer
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: project, and CS took my computer away at the end of summer -boo
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: hoo-) I think, though that it's 1.0.8? Yeah, I'm pretty sure
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: it is.
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Don't got me beat. Thats when I started too. (And yes, it is 1.0.8. I
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think slackware is still in that one, even with 2.0)
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From: bass@cais2.cais.com (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer))
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Subject: Re: Why doesn't EMAIL work?
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Date: 9 Oct 1994 22:41:10 GMT
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Paul Pearson (ppearson@folio.com) wrote:
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: I can't seem to get email working correctly with Linux 1.0.9
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: (the Slackware distribution). I am using elm on the virutual
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: consoles and CAN send messages to other users on the same
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: system. However, if the user doesn't have an account on the
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: local system, the mail never reaches them. Also, mail coming
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: from a remote system never arrives at my Linux box. I have
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I recently had a similar problem with sendmail and found the mail
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was arriving is the sendmail mqueue (/usr/spool/mqueue) dir but
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was not being delivered to the local user. The problem was
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in the lmail.c code. I've 'fixed' it on my linux box and all is
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well.
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: tried mailing directly to the Linux box's IP address (e.g.
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: user@198.60.24.139) rather than utilizing the name server.
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This is not exactly related, but user@[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] must
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have the brackets.
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Of course, this is not the core of your problem. :-)
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: I assume that 'deliver' is working correctly because local mail
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: works fine. I guess my question is, how does 'smail' need to
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Well, if local delivery is working, is doesn't sound at all like
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the lmail problem.....
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: be set up and does it need to run as a background proccess all
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: the time in order for mail to be delivered/received to/from
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: remote sites?
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: Also, I used 'mail' with the verbose mode turned on and I see a
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: message that says something like:
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: read error in output from '/usr/bin/uuname'
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:
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: ANY suggestions would be helpful -- and please don't say "read
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: the HOWTO" because I have and it doesn't seem to help me
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: (perhaps it has the answer but I don't see it). Thanks.
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: --Paul Pearson
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: ppearson@folio.com
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: "Please Wait... Brain booting from floppy."
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From: bass@cais2.cais.com (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer))
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Subject: Re: HHTP/HTML editor for Linux??
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Date: 9 Oct 1994 22:47:20 GMT
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If no one know of one, I'm about to pull out some of my old Motif
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code and write one. As I see it, a fairly good Motif based HTML
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editor is pretty basic stuff and could be a lot of fun.
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Steven Kornreich (steve@eps.com) wrote:
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: Is there a compiled HTTP server and HTML editor available for Linux? If
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: so, what ftp site?
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: Thanks
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: --
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: Steven Kornreich
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: Kornreich Communications
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: steve@eps.com
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From: joev@res.WPI.EDU (Joseph W. Vigneau)
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Subject: Re: Real stupid question. What is Motif?? :)
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 01:59:19 GMT
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In article <JHrbk0TbW0P8072yn@powertech.no>,
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Martin Eggen <martine@powertech.no> wrote:
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>As the subject says.. Can someone tell me what Motif really is, since
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>everyone is talking about it..? :-)
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There is often much confusion on what Motif is.. I'll try to sum it up here.
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Motif (from the Open Software Foundation) consists of three major parts:
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1) mwm, which is a window manager for the X Window System. It attempts to
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look and feel similar to the Microsoft Windows' window manager (Alt-F4
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means quits by default, etc.)
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2) It is also a set of libraries to make programming simpler, and to allow
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applications to have a simlar look and feel to one another. You can
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usually tell if an application is Motif based if it has a menu bar, and
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the buttons have a three dimensional appearance.
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3) It is a set of conventions to specify how programs should interact with
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the user. This is the least obvious, as not many programmers follow
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them, but the OSF does distribute it's Style Guide...
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Motif is available for Linux from various distributors. SWiM comes to mind
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(from the ACC bookstore..) I don't have this, nor do I know anyone who
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does, so I can't comment on quality or whatever...
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Comments? Questions?
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--
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joev@wpi.edu, joev@hotblack.gweep.net WPI Computer Science Linux!
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<a href="http://www.wpi.edu:8080/~joev"> Click Here! </a>
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From: mah@ka4ybr.com (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
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Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Linux Plug and Play CD ver1.1 ?
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 20:07:28 GMT
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Christopher Wiles (a0017097@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu) wrote:
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: Jesus, take it to e-mail if you two are going to bash each other.
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: -- Chris
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Well said, Chris. This has to be one of the longer "Days of
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Our Internet Lives" wars I've seen in a long time... perhaps
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it should be archived on "Best of Internet" or something.
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- Mark
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(Just my opinion. Flame on, gentlemen!)
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--
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"Linux! Guerrilla UNIX Development Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus."
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============================================================
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Mark A. Horton ka4ybr mah@ka4ybr.atlanta.com
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P.O. Box 747 Decatur GA US 30031-0747 mah@ka4ybr.atl.ga.us
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+1.404.371.0291 : 33 45 31 N / 084 16 59 W mah@ka4ybr.com
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From: are1@ritz.cec.wustl.edu (Andrew Robert Ellsworth)
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Subject: Re: How to pronounce Linux??
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 17:56:21 -0500
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I guess you guys haven't seen the Mosaic page for linux at sunsite where you
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"click here to hear how Linus Torvalds pronounces 'Linux'". It goes something
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like this:
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"Hi, I'm Linus Torvalds, and I pronounce Linux "lih-nooks"."
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I'd say that's the definitive answer...
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Andy Ellsworth
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are1@cec.wustl.edu
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From: noel@garnet.msen.com (Noel Maddy)
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Crossposted-To: alt.fan.linus-torvalds
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Subject: Newbies? (was Re: Hmmm)
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 21:28:08 GMT
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Cameron Newham (cam@iinet.com.au) wrote:
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: tjrc1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Tim Cutts) writes:
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: >My God. You make me feel like a newbie! My first Linux kernel was
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: >0.98pl5, but I had only just taken delivery of my (then) shiny new
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: >486-33 with 8Mb RAM, which I thought was the bee's knees at the time.
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: Don't feel like a newbie! I joined at 0.99pl12 (i think)
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: (whatever one was released in May 1993) when I got my 486dx50.
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Well, I didn't get into it until 0.99pl15...again, when I got a
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usable computer (DX2/50 for me). Sure love it though. I can hardly
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wait until wine goes beta and I can dump my DOS/Windows pseudo-OS!
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(I'd bet that Linux 1.x + wine 0.x will crash a lot less than
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Windows 3.x! Just shows what version numbers *really* mean, huh? ;-)
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--
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Noel Maddy noel@mail.msen.com Work: ncm@biostat.hfh.edu
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"There are no infrastructure heros." - Dan McLaren
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From: maxims@ucsee.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Maxim Spivak)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
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Subject: Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 17:53:35 GMT
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In article <373rrl$19kq@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu>,
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DAVID L. JOHNSON <dlj0@Lehigh.EDU> wrote:
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>In article <372tg0$1ai@huron.eel.ufl.edu>, acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Alexandra Griffin) writes:
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>>In article <1994Oct5.141142.773@muvms6>,
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>>Andy Bailey <bailey9@muvms6.wvnet.edu> wrote [in c.o.l.misc]:
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>>>[...]
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>>>
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>
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>This is arleady avialable. Try GREAT. Really. It takes a while to
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>configure, and you should have Motif to get the best performance, but it has
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>lots of options.
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How is GREAT`s performance now? I tried .90 with static Motif, and it was
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_slow_ on an 8 MB machine. I do have Motif libs now, and also have 16 MB
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of RAM, but will it slow the machine to a halt if I load it up and open
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an emacs as well?
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Max
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--
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**************************************************************************
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Maxim Spivak | #include <GoBears.h>
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University of California, Berkeley | #include <StdDisclaimer.h>
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maxims@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu | #include ".signature"
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From: satya@netcom.com (Satya Reddy)
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Subject: SCSI error...need help
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Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 00:26:41 GMT
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SCSI error: HELP APPRECIATED:
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==========================================
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System configuration: 386DX, Single IDE Maxtor disk with DOS installed.
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Upgrade: installed a SCSI board and a SCSI Maxtor disk with linux installed,
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with target_id set to 3.
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I am getting the following disk erros while booting Linux from the floppy disk.
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Partition Check:
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sda: sda1 sda2 sda3
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hda: Maxtor 7120AT, 124MB W/64KB cache, CHS-9361417 max mult=16
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hda: hda1
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SCSI disk request error: invalid device
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ll_rw_block: only 765483-char block implemented (1024)
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MINUX-fs: unable to read super block..
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And it goes on with more error messages and hangs...
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What i suspect is that it is trying to read from the DOS disk and not the SCSI disk.
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How can I force the booting process to read from the SCSI disk or how can I tell
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that the SCSI disk visible to the system at all ?
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Thanks for your help...
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From: maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Jason Saunders)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
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Subject: Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one?
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Date: 9 Oct 1994 23:21:34 +0100
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In article <CxB48L.8I1@info.swan.ac.uk>,
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iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox) writes:
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+>For a fun discussion of this, there is a series of articles were Linus
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+>and Andy Tanenbaum 'discussed' the merits of both of these when Linux
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+>was in it's infancy.
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+The discussion is on sunsite.unc.edu if you can ever get it to work.
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Whereabouts on sunsite is the discussion? The Linux area on there is quite
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large to say the least!
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Cheers,
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Jason
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--
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Jason L Saunders
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Argo Business Consultants
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22 Samuel Hayward House, Roseberry Avenue, Coventry, UK, CV2 1QR
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Tel: (0203) 666454
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From: gillham@andrews.edu (Andrew Gillham)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
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Subject: Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one?
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 16:48:09 GMT
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In article <37291g$mc4@j51.com> fsosi@j51.com (NightHawk) writes:
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>
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>Woody Jin (wjin@moocow.cs.uh.edu) wrote:
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>: In article <36nd1u$d80@pdq.coe.montana.edu>,
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>: Nate Williams <nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu> wrote:
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>: >In article <36djkn$nm8@girtab.usc.edu>, Po-Han Lin <plin@girtab.usc.edu> wrote:
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>: >>386bsd is monolithic (controlled I guess), while linux is non-monolithic.
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>: >
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>: >You were misinformed. Both Linux and the BSD's use monolithic kernels.
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>: >For a fun discussion of this, there is a series of articles were Linus
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>: >and Andy Tanenbaum 'discussed' the merits of both of these when Linux
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>: >was in it's infancy.
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>
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>: BTW, I have a question. Compiling FreeBSD kernel in 386 is much faster
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>: than compiling Linux kernel in 486 with twice memory.
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>: I found that Linux compiles everything whatever options I choose.
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>: Am I doing something wrong, or is it the feature of Linux ?
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>
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>You cannot compare apple with orange. Try to compile the same source code
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>with the same gcc release.
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>
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>NH
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He's not, you're turning Oranges into Applesauce.
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Odd, that wasn't how I *read* his question. My understanding of his
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question was:
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"Why is the Linux make rebuilding everything? Is this normal behavior,
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or do I have something incorrectly configured? Just as a comparison,
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a FreeBSD system that I have access seems to function correctly
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with regard to dependencies."
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So.. why do you jump down his throat? You're giving your fellow
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*BSD'ers a bad rep. You could simply say "It would be better to ask
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this in a Linux group" or just not bother.
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Anyway, I don't have the answer to his question, maybe the date is wrong
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on your Linux box, and you need to set it. i.e. All of your .o files
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are created sometime after 1-1-80 but the sources are from 9-1-94 or
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similar. Or that's the way it works, or you need to run make depend..
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Anyway, I imagine a Linux hacker will know.
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-Andrew
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Andrew Gillham gillham@andrews.edu
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LAN/WAN/Netware/Unix Analyst gillham@whirlpool.com
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From: manolo@fobos.ulpgc.es ()
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Subject: Re: Wanted: True color pix-viewer
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Date: 9 Oct 1994 23:55:28 GMT
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Arjan van Oeveren (arjano@htsa.hva.nl) wrote:
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: Hello,
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[...]
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XFree86-3.1 displays in 24 bpp if you have the appropriate
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hardware
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For console, try zgv-*
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MGM
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From: manolo@fobos.ulpgc.es ()
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Subject: Re: ftp + term suggestions
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Date: 9 Oct 1994 23:58:04 GMT
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Raymond Kraft (ray@eskimo.com) wrote:
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: Hello,
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: Does anyone know if there is a version of ftp that works with term?
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: I've got xftp-2.2.athena+term, but I'm curious if there is anything
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: else available. Thanks in advance.
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[...]
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Try ncftp-1.8.3 it works very well (1.8.5)does not work (I don't know why)
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MGM
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From: manolo@fobos.ulpgc.es ()
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Subject: Re: Linux doesn't like my cache
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 00:10:29 GMT
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David Flood (dcflood@u.washington.edu) wrote:
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: I recently upgraded my mother board and memory from a 386sx16 w/ 4M to a
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: 386dx40 with 5M. This new bard has a 128K cache on it that when enabled,
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: an attempted recompile of the kernel will bomb out with several errors
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: that a restart of the compile will run right by until another error occurs.
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: But with the cache disabled, everything runs just fine.
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: Also, with the cache, I get a lot faster response and speed with a
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: BogoMip rating of around 7.8-7.9. Without it it is closer to 4.0. How
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: can I keep the cache and (perhaps more importantly) does anyone know of a
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: program to test cache memory incase I have a bad chip?
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I'm sorry for you but most probably you've got a defective
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DRAM in your cache. Maybe someone grabbed the MB with his
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dirty, static fingers?
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It is hard to check out, I know about some late BIOS that
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make a cache check but... Don't get mad anyway and ask your supplier
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to replace the MB - if possible 8-)
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MGM
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From: rutger@kub.nl ()
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Subject: Re: Lilo booting last booted OS.
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 01:09:57 GMT
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Werner Almesberger (almesber@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch) wrote:
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: In article <36s7k8$r7j@kubds1.kub.nl> rutger@arrakis.kub.nl () writes:
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: > I would like to know if it is possible that Lilo will boot the last booted
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: > OS. E.g. if I boot Linux then Lilo will keep on booting linux 'till I select
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: > another OS (MS-Dos).
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: LILO 0.15 will have this.
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: > I liked this feature in the SLS distribution (0.99.X), but it is gone in
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: > the slackware distribution.
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: Well, there it was a misfeature, causing quite a lot of complaints.
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: The trick there was to use /sbin/lilo -R in some /etc/rc* to set the
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: new default.
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Ah, I C. and when will LILO 0.15 be out?
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Rutger.
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From: ewt@tipper.oit.unc.edu (Erik Troan)
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Subject: Re: New Linux Distribution
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Date: 9 Oct 1994 19:46:20 GMT
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In article <372kef$s37@huron.eel.ufl.edu>,
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Alexandra Griffin <acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu> wrote:
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>In article <370us8$fnl@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>,
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>Erik Troan <ewt@tipper.oit.unc.edu> wrote:
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>>[...]
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>>Don't forget less used. Python may be good, but it's not ubiquitous. If you
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>>leave out sed and awk you're breaking a lot of shell scripts. How many
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>>makefiles use sed or awk in them? None of those will work if you remove them.
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>
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>Agreed, and what's with this desire to strip away so many of the
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>normal Unix utils? sed + awk <200K (slack 2.0 binaries), and most of
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>the other shell tools are similarly small. Leaving out development
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Yikes you got me out of context. I'm against stripping the tools
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away.
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Erik
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"Like a fool I let dreams become great expectations" - Chess
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