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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 94 15:13:36 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #913
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Linux-Misc Digest #913, Volume #2 Mon, 10 Oct 94 15:13:36 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware (Adam J. Richter)
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Copying from CDROM to floppy - why does HD go active? (Dan Swartzendruber)
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Re: How to let normal users run SVGALIB programs (SOLN) (Alan Cox)
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[WANTED] Moasic 2.4 for XF86-3.1 (Chris Lo)
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help computerize a library (Robert J. Chassell)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Jeff Kesselman)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Michael Rogero Brown (Sys Admin))
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Idle daemon (Van Dao Mai)
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Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree (Oliver Mai)
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Good Video Card For Linux (Ron Blancarte)
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Re: Beers for Linus (was: Contrib. $s for Linux Dev) (Jeff Kesselman)
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Looking for xelm static-linked binary (Fabian Hoppe)
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Where to get Slackware 2.0.1? (Marten Liebster)
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Re: showaudio (Joseph W. Vigneau)
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From: adam@yggdrasil.com (Adam J. Richter)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware
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Date: 8 Oct 1994 22:41:29 GMT
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In article <1994Oct8.004611.87896@slate.mines.colorado.edu>,
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Myron Uecker <muecker@slate.mines.colorado.edu> wrote:
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> I haven't had any of the problems you mentioned, but I have yet to be
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>able to boot Linux from my hard drive. I think that part of the problem
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>stems from the fact that the Fall 94 CD has a lot of the directories
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>changed from previous releases and it is causing problems. The Lilo docs
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>uses a totally different directory structure than this CD does.
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The information that you have supplied is not sufficiently
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detailed for us to be able to tell what you're talking about. Please
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report the bug to us with important details like complete pathnames, so
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that we can investigate your trouble report and be able to fix it in
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a future release.
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--
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Adam J. Richter Yggdrasil Computing, Incorporated
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(408) 261-6630 "Free Software For The Rest of Us."
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From: dswartz@deathstar.riva.com (Dan Swartzendruber)
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Subject: Copying from CDROM to floppy - why does HD go active?
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 11:55:24 -0400
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I noticed something strange when copying a boot disk image
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from CDROM to floppy. Basically, I did the following:
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dd if=/cdrom/file-image of=/dev/fd0 obs=18k
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It said:
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2400 input records
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66+1 output records
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The CDROM activity light came on for a few seconds, then went off.
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At this point the floppy light came on and it made the usual grinding
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noises for a bit. What got me curious was why the root IDE drive was
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also busy during this interval? Something to do with the buffer cache?
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If not, what??
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: How to let normal users run SVGALIB programs (SOLN)
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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 09:59:12 GMT
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In article <1994Oct3.182132.645@flapjack.ieunet.ie> nick@flapjack.ieunet.ie (Nick Hilliard) writes:
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>This is *NOT* a solution. This is *DANGEROUS* and *STUPID*.
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>Please a) read some books about system administration and security, and b)
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>think twice about the logical outcome of this sort of 'advice' before
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>posting to the net.
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Actually its right for SVGAlib programs - but not for general answers. The
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svgalib library has to start up setuid. The initial call you make in the
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svgalib program grabs all the resources and throws out its setuid status.
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Alan
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--
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..-----------,,----------------------------,,----------------------------,,
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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From: cklo@hkucs92.air.org (Chris Lo)
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Subject: [WANTED] Moasic 2.4 for XF86-3.1
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Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 09:20:13 GMT
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Reply-To: cklo@hkucs92.air.org
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Dear Linuxers,
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While trying to elminate the X11R5, (and without Motif here), I find
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Moasic is compiled with X11R5. Can someone re-compile it with R6
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please??
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Thanks.
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--
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Chris Lo | _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/
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cklo@hkucs92.air.org | _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/
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chris@air.org | _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/
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#include <std/disclaimer.h> | _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/_/
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From: bob@cocoa-puffs (Robert J. Chassell)
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Subject: help computerize a library
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 16:26:55 GMT
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Here is a chance to introduce GNU/Linux and other free software to
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small libraries.
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The public library in Lenox, Massachusetts, has received a grant from
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the National Endowment for the Humanities to computerize. The library
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hopes to become a "Model Library of the Future" that other,
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not-so-large, public libraries will emulate.
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I have talked to the library's director, Dennis Lesieur. He has
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nothing against freely redistributable software; but he knows nothing
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about it (nor much about computerization).
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I am looking for advice to give, for volunteers to help remotely via
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email, and, if possible, for a local volunteer to install and maintain
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systems.
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The library has a 486 PC and five 386 PCs, with 4 to 16 megabytes of
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RAM each, and 80 to 500 megabytes of disk each.
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The library wants to do three things:
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1. Very soon: network the PCs together, so staff can access
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information on a CD-ROM that is on one machine from the other
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machines. A single CD-ROM contains all of books in print or what
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ever; the staff will leave the most frequently used CD in the CD-ROM
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drive.
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Suppose the library runs GNU/Linux on its machines, or other free
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operating system:
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- What boards should it buy and install for networking?
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- What needs to be done so that the staff can continue to search
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and read the various CD-ROM databases, even when using an
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operating system other than DOS?
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- What needs to be done so that the staff can continue to use the
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word processors, database programs, and spread sheets to which
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they have become accustomed; or how can the staff shift to other
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software? What freely redistributable software should they use?
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2. Next: automate acquisitions, circulation, and public catalogue.
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Lesieur, the library director, is looking at various proprietary
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systems offered to libraries, some of which are Unix based.
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- Does anyone know of free software that does the job?
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3. Finally, most dramatically: provide "access to the world of
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information", including "multi-media work stations provided with a
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broad spectrum of information and research data bases", access
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from the library to the Internet, and remote access to the library
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(and through it, the Internet) "by schools, businesses, ... and
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the homebound." (I am quoting from a statement of goals; as I
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said, the library is pioneering; it hopes to be a model for other
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small libraries to emulate.)
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I have dreams of the library becoming a node on the net with its
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own WWW home page, with the right to provide library patrons with
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source code to programs they use, and a bank of modems so I can
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dial in and establish a SLIP connection.
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One suggestion is for the library to customize GNU Emacs as a
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consistent user interface to various data bases, various
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differently set up library catalogues, gophers, ftp, news groups,
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etc. This would be somewhat like the GUD library, which provides
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an interface to various symbolic debuggers from withing Emacs. It
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would be a sort of super W3 mode, with only a limited set of
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permitted commands (unless you turn off disabling) and
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understandable menus and metaphors. The library interface would
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have to be designed for novices, easy enough to learn so very few
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would ask librarians for help, and fool proof.
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- Does anyone know of such an existing interface (Emacs or other
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free software)?
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- Or, does anyone know of a class on human factors that would like
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to design and test such an interface?
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- Or would you like to design such a library yourself?
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The library already has a connection to the CWMARS network of
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libraries in central and western Massachusetts, as a remote
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terminal. Unfortunately, the connection is intended only for
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catalogue lookup. Other uses get what little bandwidth and CPU
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remains, which is slow. (I tried; at one time, I faced a one to
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two second delay per character typed. The librarians find it hard
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to read email.) CWMARS knows the network is slow, but improving
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it is a low priority. The library might install some other link
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to the Internet, if it were not expensive.
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- Has anyone suggestions for *inexpensive* network connections
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near Lenox. MA?
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- Or a way to down load email from the existing CWMARS mainframe
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so librarians could use the library's machines as computers
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rather than as very slow terminals?
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After the library is on the net, the librarians would need help
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setting up a WWW home page.
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And so on. This is one small library, but it is a pioneer and may set
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the expectations for the future. Not to mention that if the software
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is free, the library can give copies to other libraries.
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I can give a little advice, but not much. So I am looking for others
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who can help. I figure this is a chance not merely to help one
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library, but to influence all libraries, since this is intended as a
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model for others.
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Oh yes, the library is actually a 501(c)3 tax exempt organization. It
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is not owned by the town, but is its own foundation, although the town
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pays about a quarter of its budget. Your donations to this library
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are tax deductible, like gifts to the Free Software Foundation. (And
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if you give enough you can get your name on a wall: moderate donations
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get you a named brick; larger ones a plaque near a bookshelf or
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computer; yet bigger ones a name for a room or archival vault.)
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Thanks
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Robert J. Chassell bob@grackle.stockbridge.ma.us
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25 Rattlesnake Mountain Road bob@gnu.ai.mit.edu
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Stockbridge, MA 01262-0693 USA (413) 298-4725
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--
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Robert J. Chassell bob@gnu.ai.mit.edu
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25 Rattlesnake Mountain Road bob@grackle.stockbridge.ma.us
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Stockbridge, MA 01262-0693 USA (413) 298-4725
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman)
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 06:06:28 GMT
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In article <1994Oct6.140251.10754@midway.uchicago.edu>,
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Richard L. Goerwitz <goer@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
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>>Gamma Universe word processor for almost every language, incl. keyboard
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>>redefinition on the fly
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>>The point is: you can do that under Windows easily (NT even easier in Unicode)
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>
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>I'm not sure this is right, actually. Even Gamma Universe, I believe,
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>has a great deal of trouble mixing left-right and right-left languages.
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>You have to enter in carriage returns and multiple-line text will not
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>wrap right. An imperfect system overlaid upon an even less perfect sys-
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>tem. No, I believe that Apple has done the best job of solving these
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>problems.
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I just finished designing a generic font system for our products, which
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are released all over the world. There are ALL kinds of issues involved
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in non-romance languages. What abotu languages that are written
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column-major rather then row-major? We ended up with ALOT of flag bits
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to cover all the cases and we haven't yet dealt with languages like
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Korean, where each glyph is a compound of sub-glyphs!
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If ANYONE has a system that is actually all inclusive for 'every
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language on the planet' PLEASE send me a reference! I'ld really like to
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see it.
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P.S. We do have 1 system in house thats all inclusive, but very painful.
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Its called Adobe Photoshop.. ;)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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From: michaelb@hobbie.bocaraton.ibm.com (Michael Rogero Brown (Sys Admin))
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 19:36:33 GMT
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Miguel Alvarez Blanco (miguel@carbono.quimica.uniovi.es) wrote:
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: Richard L. Goerwitz (goer@quads.uchicago.edu) wrote:
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: : naoumov@physics.unc.edu (Sergei Naoumov) writes:
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: : Another point: TeX will give you low-level control over your document.
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: : But frankly I don't give a damn. Once the referees, copy editors, lay-
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: : out goons, and editors get their hands on my MS it's not going to look
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: : like what I gave them, anyway. So who wants to twiddle kerning pairs?
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: : Just bang the sucker out, I say, and don't be so anal-retentive.
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: Really? This must be in your own field, because some journals of the
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: APS, like Physical Review, accept LaTeX documents by e-mail (in source!)
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: and use LaTeX in producing the final document. So I want to twiddle not
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: only kerning pairs, but everything in my documents, because I know that
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: the way I see them is the way the final reader will see them. BTW, the
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: e-mail process is far faster than the usual method of submission; even
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: if the only advantage of LaTeX were this, I'll take it over that myriad
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: of brain dead 'clicky' Windows word processors.
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: Another important thing: I'm by no means a typist, nor want to be one.
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: Why on earth should I care of the intrincate problems of document
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: typesetting when a program can do it for me?
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: I won't claim that LaTeX is a good multilingual processor, but my master
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: thesis was written on it, in spanish, without troubles. Sure, Hebrew, Kanji
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: and lots of other languages are not there, but at least it's a step forward.
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Uhhh. Actually they [Hebrew Kanji etc] are there, at least for TeX. I was
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suprised/impressed when I got O'Reilly's _Making TeX Work_ and discovered that
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there are versions of TeX designed specifically for Hebrew (which even handles
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right to left rather then left to right), Chinese, Japanese and other languages.
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And in many of these countries there are TeX user groups working hard to bring
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these programs out.
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--
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==========All Opinions Expressed are MINE, not IBM's==============
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Michael Rogero Brown (uK Development System Administrator)
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IBM (uK Development) TEL/TIE (407) 443-6400
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Boca Raton, FL Internet: mikal@bocaraton.ibm.com
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If you think I speak for IBM, then I've got some swamp land^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H
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real estate to sell you.
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From: mai@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au (Van Dao Mai)
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Subject: Idle daemon
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 23:39:23 +1000
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Idle daemon for linux? Can anyone give me the name of it please
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Thanks
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mai@uow.edu.au
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From: mai@x4u2.desy.de (Oliver Mai)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
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Subject: Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 10:47:08 GMT
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...
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Eric Jeschke wrote:
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> If there was a default "standard" GUI available on most distributions
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> it would be possible to write a introduction to Linux (a la Welch)
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> from a GUI perspective. Whether this is a good idea or not depends on
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> your ideas about how to teach Unix. IMHO, I think you can wean newbies
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> off of the mainstream PC OSes more easily with a good GUI and then let
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> them gradually cut their teeth with more and more command-line.
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Agreed!
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> It might be a good idea to make a
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> GUI "mini-distribution" (package) that just contains a standardized
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> GUI setup (GREAT + fvwm + customized *rc files + selected GUI apps).
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I used to run GREAT for some time. But firstly one needs Motif
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to run GREAT with acceptable performance, and secondly I think fvwm and
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xfm together give at least the functionality of GREAT without requiring
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as much resources. For example the GREAT filemanager might look better
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than xfm, but xfm is more powerful. The xfm file and application managers
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support drag and drop much better than GREAT. E.g. one can drag files
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or directories directly into the application manager, then drop files onto
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the icons of e.g. executables or directories in either the application
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or file manager, and so on. Once one has a well preconfigured xfm and
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fvwm one has a very powerful desktop, which IMO is superior to MS Windows',
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because the xfm application manager is much more flexible than Windows'
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program manager. Drawbacks are: 1) fvwm does not support drag and drop on
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desktop icons (in contrast to Windows, but, IMO drag and drop in the
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application manager is better in practice). 2) There can be only one
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instance of the xfm application manager. 3) xfm is too slow (esp. changing
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to directories with many files), but not compared to GREAT's filemanager
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4) xfm can only do one operation a time, so if you copy a file in one
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xfm filemanager window, the other xfm windows are blocked.
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I would advocate a GUI package with well preconfigured xfm and fvwm.
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Oliver Mai
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From: ronb@mail.utexas.edu (Ron Blancarte)
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Subject: Good Video Card For Linux
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 04:18:58 GMT
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My Brother-in-Law is getting a PC to run Linux on one partition, and
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Windows/Dos on the other one. Now anyone can make Win/Dos Drivers, but we are
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looking for a Video card that has really good Linux drivers. Things to take
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note when giving advice: We are not looking for a 64 bit Video card, so
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please don't recomend them, unless they are the best card hands down.
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Please e-mail responces back to me. I don't frequent this group.
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RonB
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From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman)
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Subject: Re: Beers for Linus (was: Contrib. $s for Linux Dev)
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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 01:33:35 GMT
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In article <36jlkp$m5m@aurora.engr.latech.edu>,
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John C. Fisher <jfisher@engr.latech.edu> wrote:
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>J.J. Paijmans (paai@kub.nl) wrote:
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>: In article <1994Sep27.202537.20069@abo.fi> mwikholm@at8.abo.fi (Mats 'MaDsen' Wikholm) writes:
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>: >In article <368s4h$1n7@kubds1.kub.nl> paai@kub.nl (J.J. Paijmans) writes:
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>: >>Aside from all that: does anybody know what is involved in getting
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>: >>bottles with beer to Finland? I understand that the customs over there
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>: ...
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>[snip...]
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>
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>What about "RAM for Linus"? Beer probably isn't terribly good for him... :-)
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>If everyone contributed US$1, we could probably get him quite a bit.
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>
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>I know! What about "P5-100 for Linus"? :-)
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>
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>< John Fisher | jfisher@engr.latech.edu >
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>
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What about a PowerPC for Linus? Then we knwo we'ld have Linux ported to
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the PPC real soon! :)
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(I'll bet someone coudl even talk IBM into giving us a discount on it for
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thsi worthwhile pupose... I have a relative at IBM I coudl bounce the
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idea off of...)
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From: fabian@vivian.wupper.de (Fabian Hoppe)
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Subject: Looking for xelm static-linked binary
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Date: 4 Oct 1994 17:11:06 GMT
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Reply-To: fabian@vivian.wupper.de
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Hi!
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As explained in the subject, I'm looking for a static(-ly ?-) linked binary of xelm , the
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X-Frontend to elm because I've unfortunatly no motif-dev-kit. Is there any ftp-server
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or generous Motif-owner around?
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BTW, how is the MIME-support of this Frontend?
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Thanks in advance, Fabian
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Fabian Hoppe Phone : ++49 2332 12580
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Elsternstr. 57 Fax : ++49 2332 83518
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58285 Gevelsberg EMail : fabian@vivian.wupper.de
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Germany PGP-Key available on demand
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- Mathematicians are devices to convert coffee in theorems -
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From: mmarten@panix.com (Marten Liebster)
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Subject: Where to get Slackware 2.0.1?
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 14:47:59 -0400
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A few weeks ago, there was a post about Slackware 2.0.1. It was
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the release with all the kernels from 1.0.9 to 1.1.50 and XFree86
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3.1 on it.
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If someone would e-mail/post the number, I would be very greatful!
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Thanks!
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Marten
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Marten M. Liebster Please no flames for spelling,
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mmarten@panix.com I already know I can't spell!!
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From: joev@res.WPI.EDU (Joseph W. Vigneau)
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Subject: Re: showaudio
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 18:34:36 GMT
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In article <phil.781809254@access3>,
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phil slurrup <phil@access3.digex.net> wrote:
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>Has anybody got showaudio to run for Mosaic? I am having trouble
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>compiling it. Is there Linux specific source and if so where?
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I thought the showaudio that came with the distributions worked... If not,
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you can write a simple shell script to do the same thing:
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#!/bin/sh
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cat $1 > /dev/audio
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That's it! This should work on any machine that can play .au files (Linux,
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Suns, maybe Decs, etc.) Back up your old showaudio, and replace it with
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this.
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>I also
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>realized I didn't know how the include directories for gcc can be expanded,
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>without doing it from the command line, where is that setup and defined?
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This question seems unclear...
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>One other question, is there a way to cut and paste text between sessions
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>in linux, and if so where can I find info?
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Under X, you can usually highlight things by dragging the mouse button 1
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(Usually the left mouse button) over text, and using mouse button 2 (middle)
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to paste. Under text-mode, the selection program that comes with most
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distributions can cut and paste text within or between virtual consoles...
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joev@wpi.edu, joev@hotblack.gweep.net WPI Computer Science Linux!
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<a href="http://www.wpi.edu:8080/~joev"> Click Here! </a>
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