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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 94 20:13:10 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #933
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Linux-Misc Digest #933, Volume #2 Thu, 13 Oct 94 20:13:10 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: SW Technologies (Jonathan I. Kamens)
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Re: Help: Superblock problem. (Joerg Mertin)
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proper usage of mmap() (Rob Cermak)
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Mosaic Netscape for Linux? (Mike Loseke)
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Re: which is better: Mitsumi or Panasonic CDROM? (Heiko Schlittermann)
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Re: SW Technologies (E. Robert Tisdale)
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Re: Syquest and Linux (Phil Hughes)
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Re: Where can I order Linux 3. (Phil Hughes)
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Re: Does all SCO software run on Linux (Andrew R. Tefft)
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Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware (Moises Lejter)
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Motif - X resources HELP (Benjamin Alman)
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From: jik@cam.ov.com (Jonathan I. Kamens)
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Subject: Re: SW Technologies
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Date: 13 Oct 1994 20:44:32 GMT
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In article <37jvfl$40o@maui.cs.ucla.edu>, edwin@maui.cs.ucla.edu (E. Robert Tisdale) writes:
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|> It seems that SWT is not the only business with which you have disagreements.
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You're trying to use the fact that in the seven+ years I've had an account
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with BayBank, they have on occasion made errors which caused checks to be
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bounced from my account, as proof that my complaints against SWT have no
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merit? Oh, *please*.
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I've played the game by your rules until now, Bob, but no more. You accused
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me of returning the machine to SWT because I changed my mind about wanting it,
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and I explained in excruciating detail why I have not yet had time to do the
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research necessary to buy a new machine. You ignored my explanations. Now,
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you're once again making completely unfounded accusations (i.e., that any
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problems I've had with BayBank were my fault). You have no more proof this
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time than you had the last time.
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You say it's so. I say it's not. I don't see the point in trying to prove
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that, because you'll ignore anything I say.
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Hey, Bob, I'll tell you a secret. I occasionally have disagreements with my
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bank about the way they run my account. I occasionally have disagreements
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with the MBTA about the way they run the bus routes around here. I
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occasionally have disagreements with my landlord about the way he runs my
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apartment building. Heck, I occasionally have disagreements with my barber
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about the way she cuts my hair! Well, gee, I must be a horrible person whose
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opinion doesn't count for anything; after all, honest, trustworthy people
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never have disagreements with anybody, right?
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|> Apparently, you are suggesting that Marvin Wu switch to an account or a bank
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|> that offers overdraft protection.
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No, I think you missed the point. More likely, you ignored it and chose to
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put an obnoxious slant on it and hoped people wouldn't notice.
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I don't have overdraft protection. Despite that fact, BayBank has paid checks
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on my account when they thought I didn't have the money in my checking account
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to cover them, and charged me the same fee they would have if they'd bounced
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the check. They're legally entitled to do that; in fact, most banks do it
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when they think that the client is good for the money.
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Therefore, one might conclude from the fact that SWT's bank bounced their
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check that the bank was *not* sure that SWT was good for the money.
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Incidentally, Bob, you still haven't told us why you feel qualified to make
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unfounded accusations against me but you aren't willing to answer a simple
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question: Is a company that bounces a refund check on more than one occasion
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behaving in a professional, responsible manner?
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You also still haven't answered this question: Bob, are you speaking from the
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point of view of a satisfied customer of SWT or something more? Are you and
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Wu acquaintenaces, perhaps, or even friends? You did tell me in E-mail that
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you are `on reasonably good terms with Marvin Wu.' What exactly does that mean?
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You seem to be awfully good at ignoring points to which you have to answer,
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Bob. I've answered every one of the points and accusations you've made, no
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matter how absurd they are. Put up or shut up.
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|> >I might still be angry at SWT about wasting my time and making me pay
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|> >shipping, but if they had apologized for bouncing the check and offered to pay
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|> >the $4 charge my bank charged me, my opinion of them would be many notches
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|> >higher than it is now.
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|>
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|> This disturbs me. It is one thing to use the net to warn people and tell
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|> them about a bad experience that you had. It is quite another thing to use
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|> the net to extort money from people even if it is just $4.
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I didn't say that I would stop posting my review if SWT paid me the $4 or that
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I wouldn't have started posting it if they had done so. I won't stop posting
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the review if they pay me the $4, and I would have started posting it even if
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they had done so immediately when the check bounced.
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|> If you think
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|> that you have a legitimate claim against SWT, you should take Mr. Wu to
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|> small claims court.
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I do not believe that I have a strong enough legal claim against SWT for it to
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be worth the effort to take them to court. I would have to base my case on
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convincing a judge that the machine SWT sold me was never in working order,
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something which I find it highly unlikely I would be able to prove to a
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computer-ignorant jurist (after all, you're a smart guy and you're
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computer-literate, and *you* seem to have a lot of trouble understanding it!).
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Regardless of whether or not I have a legal claim, or a legal claim that is
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strong enough to bring to court, there are thinks that are more important than
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legalities. I believe that SWT should refund my shipping because I believe
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that it is the "right thing to do." Even more so, I believe that refunding a
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check-bouncing charge which is there fault is the right thing to do.
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|> The simple fact
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|> is that Marvin never agreed to pay for any of your banking fees
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Oh, I see. So before signing the purchase agreement with SWT, I should have
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made them put into it, "If we give you a refund check and it bounces, we'll
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pay the charge your bank charges you for the bounce." Yeah, right.
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Here's a clue: When an honest, responsible person or organization bounces a
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check and it's his own fault, he pays the payee whatever was lost because of
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the bounce. That's how honest, responsible people operate.
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Most stores enforce this honesty by charging a returned-check fee. You've
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seen the signs in stores that accept checks, right, Bob?
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A company which bounces a $5000 refund check and then refuses to reimburse the
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payee for his losses because of that bounce, and refuses to even acknowledge
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those losses, is not behaving in an honest, responsible, professional manner.
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|> You needn't reply but I'm sure you can't resist having the last word.
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Priceless, Bob. Why don't you try sticking to the issues and answering the
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very simple questions that I've asked, instead of attacking me over and over
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again with innuendo like this?
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Jonathan Kamens | OpenVision Technologies, Inc. | jik@cam.ov.com
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Reply-To: smurphy@stardust.bln.sub.org
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From: smurphy@stardust.bln.sub.org (Joerg Mertin)
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Subject: Re: Help: Superblock problem.
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Date: 08 Oct 1994 11:24:54 +0000
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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In comp.os.linux.misc Roland Isom (isom@f18sunp.nwc.navy.mil) wrote:
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: Here are some more info for the problem that I've posted
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: earlier. Upon reading the "EXT2FS-FAQ" and doing some more
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: testing, I've discovered that my superblock is still good.
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: I use the command: "e2fsck -b superblock" to see that the
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: file system is still in good shape. However, the following
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: error message is shown when the kernel attemp to mount the
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: root filesystem.
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: .
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: .
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: .
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: ll_rw_block: Trying to read nonexisting block device 0801
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: Minix-fs: Unable to read superblock
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: ll_rw_block: Trying to read nonexisting block device 0801
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: EXT2-fs: Unable to read superblock
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: .
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: .
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: Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:01
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Sure, your Superblock Information is lost. You should make a e2fsck on
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your root partition. But as I know the e2fsck, it will not find the
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superblock, which lets you only the possibility to make it manually,
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telling it to take the 2 Superblock on the disk.
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try mountinglinux with a boot/root diskett installation from slackware
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by example. Then make:
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e2fsck -cv -B 8193 /dev/hd?? <- ? stands for your partition
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e2fsck -cv -B 16385 /dev/hd??
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If this works well, boot your Linux system with a boot-disk telling
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the kernel to look for the root system on you /dev/hd??. There you
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should check out your lilo-Conf files and start it again, maybe
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something wrong with it...
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If not, try to post a listing of the errors ecountered for people to
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help you.
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: Then the system freeze. Now if I boot from my default boot floppy
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: disk, it can mount the root fs and I can access the data on it without
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: any problem. Any hints as to what's going on?
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: Tri
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: Please email the above account or at tran@f18sunc.chinalake.navy.mil
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--
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Solong & Happy Hacking
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* Joerg Mertin : smurphy@stardust.bln.sub.org (Home) *
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* in Berlin Spandau at : jorgagif@w203zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de *
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* Stardust's Linux System : Data, Fax & Voice 49 30 3615569 *
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************************************************************************
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`Fatal Error: Found [MS-Windows] System -> Terminating Virus...'
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From: cermak@er2.rutgers.edu (Rob Cermak)
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Subject: proper usage of mmap()
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Date: 13 Oct 1994 18:10:05 -0400
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Hello, I'm working on porting a C program that utilizes mmap().
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Unfortunately the kernel 1.1.18 uses something like do_mmap(). Is
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there information available on the proper use of mmap() to map
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memory to files using the kernels' do_map()? Right now, all I
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get back from mmap() is EINVAL, errno=22. I can't seem to find
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how the mmap() C funtion gets mapped to the do_mmap() in the kernel.
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The man page was slightly helpful for mmap(). It said that not
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all the functions were available, all I need in MAP_FILE....
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The program makes the file available for use as a product queue.
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Thanks for any information in advance, send replys directly to
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cermak@gandalf.rutgers.edu.
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Rob Cermak
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Rutgers University
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cermak@gandalf.rutgers.edu
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--
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Rob Cermak(cermak@gandalf.rutgers.edu) USMAIL: Rutgers University
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Prog/Tech Rutgers Meteorology-Cook College Department of Meteorology
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FAX :908 932-7922 Cook College PO BOX 231
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Meteorology Dept:908 932-8997 New Brunswick NJ 08903-0231
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From: mike@bob.sc.colostate.edu (Mike Loseke)
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Subject: Mosaic Netscape for Linux?
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Date: 13 Oct 1994 14:31:38 GMT
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Does anyone know if Mosaic Communication Corp.'s Netscape Web Browser is
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going to available for Linux anytime soon? I checked out the HP-UX version
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this morning and it looked pretty nice. And FAST! It says that it does multiple
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connections for faster loading of pages and has native support for jpeg
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images. It even has a native newsreader that works pretty good, and has
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threading almost as good as trn (IMO). Kind of stingy on the colormap tho.
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I's also supposed to be optimized for use over phone lines with 14.4 devices.
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They have binary versions for Windows (16-32 bit, WFW + NT) Mac sys7 and
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X versions for HP, SunOS, RS-6000 and a few other systems but no Linux or
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source code (for obvious reasons when you read the license).
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If you don't have a clue as to what I'm talking about, go to this page:
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http://home.mcom.com/
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--
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_______<a href="http://www.cs.colostate.edu/~loseke">Mike!</a>________
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| Mike Loseke BOFH | Behold, here cometh the Dreamer. |
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| mike@bob.sc.colostate.edu | Let us slay him, and we shall see |
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| Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux | what will become of his dreams. |
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From: heiko@lotte.sax.de (Heiko Schlittermann)
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Subject: Re: which is better: Mitsumi or Panasonic CDROM?
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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 09:50:52 GMT
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In article <QUINLAN.94Sep29172951@freya.yggdrasil.com>,
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Daniel Quinlan <quinlan@yggdrasil.com> wrote:
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>> than Mitsumi with IRQ and DMA enabled. I have tested both drives,
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>> and seen that myself, which is why I bought a Mitsumi.
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>Unless I am mistaken, that isn't the case.
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>Under Linux, Mitsumi drives don't require an IRQ although they will
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>use one and don't use DMA even if the drive does support it.
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You're right. But the `new' driver uses the irq.
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-- heiko
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From: edwin@maui.cs.ucla.edu (E. Robert Tisdale)
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Subject: Re: SW Technologies
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Date: 12 Oct 1994 11:14:06 -0700
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jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman) writes:
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>The originator of this thread DID indeed say that all that was required
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>for it to be fine was that Martin return the $5.00 bounce fee. However,
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>that original poster may not have been Bob at all. I did not remember
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>referencing Bob by name is this post, and he refused to provide me with a
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>copy.
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>Having now seen the post again, I realize this might well have been an
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>error and I apologize.
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I accept your apology. I suppose that your arrogant and condescending
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remarks are consistent with your apparent contempt for your readers.
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It seems that you believe your frequent and windy postings are important
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beyond any requirement to check whether or not you got any of the facts
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right. If you can't remember what you said in your own articles, I suggest
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that you concentrate on posting fewer, more memorable, articles. At least
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you could take the trouble to run your article through a spelling checker
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before posting. Bob Tisdale
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From: fyl@eskimo.com (Phil Hughes)
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Subject: Re: Syquest and Linux
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 18:11:46 GMT
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Georg Pietrek (pietrek@euklid.informatik.uni-dortmund.de) wrote:
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: I have a Syquest drive (SCSI, 270 MB) and my question is very
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: simple (hopefully the answer will be simple, too):
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: How can I use it with Linux ?
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There is nothing magic about the Syquest. We use an 88MB Syquest to get
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files to and from the system that drives our imagesetter. (Yes, the
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imagesetter we use to typeset Linux Journal is hooked to a Linux system.
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When it was being installed we managed to bend the ear of the installers a
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whole bunch about Linux and all the installation problems had nothing to
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do with Linux. The imagesetter will talk over a parallel or serial port.
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We send data over the parallel port but monitor the serial port for status
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information. The installers were impressed that I could do both at once
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on Linux as people couldn't do this on MS-DOS systems. :-) )
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Anyway, back to your question. Treat the drive like any other SCSI
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device. If it is your second drive it would be known as /dev/sdb and the
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partitions would be /dev/sdb1, /dev/sdb2, etc.
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You can make filesystems on it using fdisk to partition and mke2fs (or
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whichever filesystem you use). Mount as usual (e.g., mount -t ext2
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/dev/sdb1 /hotstuff).
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An alternative is to use it as a tar device (which we commonly do with
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stuff for the imagesetter). In that case you refer to the whole device
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(/dev/sdb, for example). To read in the whole sucker,
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tar xvf /dev/sdb
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--
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Phil Hughes, Publisher, Linux Journal (206) 527-3385
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usually phil@ssc.com, sometimes fyl@eskimo.com
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From: fyl@eskimo.com (Phil Hughes)
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Subject: Re: Where can I order Linux 3.
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 18:14:59 GMT
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Keith Mandachit (keithm@rocket.cc.umr.edu) wrote:
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: I want to order the Slackware version of linux on 3.5 inch disks
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: I tried clark.net, but they nolonger sell the distribution
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Linux Systems Labs, 800-432-0556 arrording to they ad on Page 30 of the
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November Linux Journal. $56 for the set.
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--
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Phil Hughes, Publisher, Linux Journal (206) 527-3385
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usually phil@ssc.com, sometimes fyl@eskimo.com
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From: teffta@erie.ge.com (Andrew R. Tefft)
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Subject: Re: Does all SCO software run on Linux
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Reply-To: teffta@erie.ge.com
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 15:39:27 GMT
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In article <1994Oct11.125257.25214@taylor.infi.net>, mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis) writes:
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>swein@csc.albany.edu (Scott Weinstein) writes:
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>
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>>I recently tried to upgrade to XFree 3.1. When I tried out WP, it gave
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>>give me lots of Xm* error and then wold give me a seg violation. One time it
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>>cause my HD to do *something* for about 1/2 hour. I ended up rebooting
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>>that time.
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>
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>I have heard lots of ***HORROR**** stories about XFree 3.1. My suggestion
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>is not to use it yet!!!
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Consider this an anti-***HORROR**** story. I have had near-zero
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problems. One server crash the first time I tried the admittedly
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in-development LBX. And don't accidentally try to start two servers
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on the same screen, or you will lose permission to start up any more
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clients.
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I tried mosaic, which is statically linked with motif libraries last
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night; no problem. I run olvwm all the time with no changes and no
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problems, and nearly 10 512mprovement in xbench score. I also used fvwm
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in 300x200 "doom mode".
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I suggest go ahead and try it, but don't throw out 2.1 yet. Maybe it
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is more difficult for Slackware users.
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Andy Tefft - new, expanded .sig - teffta@erie.ge.com
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: mlm@cs.brown.edu (Moises Lejter)
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Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware
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Reply-To: mlm@cs.brown.edu
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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 20:44:01 GMT
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In article <QUINLAN.94Oct12203730@freya.yggdrasil.com>, quinlan@freya.yggdrasil.com (Daniel Quinlan) writes:
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mlm> It might be nice to add a note to the doc that mentions that >8MB VM
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mlm> are needed during the install process - I am pretty sure it is not...
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Daniel> This is directly out of the Plug-and-Play manual:
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Daniel> ------- start of cut text --------------
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Daniel> For a single user system, we recommended that the swap
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Daniel> partion be large enough to give a total virtual memory size
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Daniel> (RAM+swap) of at least 16 MB, possibly up to 32 MB. [...]
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Daniel> ------- end ----------------------------
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Daniel> Please read the manual during installation. In the future,
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Daniel> we will make the recommendation more of a requirement.
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Clearly, a matter of semantics. However, I *did* read the manual, and
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had in fact read that quote. However, "recommend" and "require" are
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distinctly different words, with different meanings attached to each.
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All the documention states is that those machines with 4MB *must*
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specify additional virtual memory.
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Moises
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=============================================================================
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Internet/CSnet: Moises_Lejter@brown.edu BITNET: mlm@browncs.BITNET
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UUCP: ...!uunet!cs.brown.edu!mlm Phone: (401)863-7671
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USmail: Moises Lejter, Box 1910 Brown University, Providence RI 02912
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From: alman@strangiato.res.wpi.edu (Benjamin Alman)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Motif - X resources HELP
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Date: 13 Oct 1994 18:45:51 GMT
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Reply-To: alman@strangiato.Res.WPI.EDU
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I have installed Mosaic 2.4 (TueV) here on my system, and all is well..
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except for the X resources... I have the following lines in my
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~/.Xdefaults file..
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Mosaic*homeDocument: http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Software/Mosa...
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Mosiac*anchorUnderlines: 0
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Mosaic*visitedAnchorUnderlines: 0
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Mosiac*colorsPerInlinedImage: 64
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Mosiac*font: -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
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Mosiac*italicFont: -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
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Mosiac*boldFont: -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
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Mosiac*fixedFont: -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
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Mosaic*geometry: +260+26
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now, It loads the Mosaic*geometry and Mosaic*homeDocument fine as far as I
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can tell... but the other lines it doesn't do anything with.. no error
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message or anything, it just loads as normal... but for example, all the
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underlines are still there, and all the fonts are still the crappy
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17-point defaults... any ideas?
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please email a response, thanks!! :)
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