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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 03:13:15 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #935
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Linux-Misc Digest #935, Volume #2 Fri, 14 Oct 94 03:13:15 EDT
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Contents:
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gs printing every second page ? (Karsten Mauler)
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Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree (Karsten Mauler)
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Need Italian and Spanish Xmodmaps (Jesus Ramos)
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Re: SW Technologies (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer))
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Re: Linux Journal (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer))
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Re: Does all SCO software run on Linux (root)
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Yggdrasil & X: What are VGA "clocks"? (Joe Janakovic)
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BUS MOUSE KERNEL BUGS (Bob Wilson)
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Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware (Jeff Kesselman)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Alexander Williams)
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From: SMOKIE@bmb.escape.de (Karsten Mauler)
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Subject: gs printing every second page ?
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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 15:04:00 +0100
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Hi 11.10.94 / 15:59
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can anyone tell me, how i setup gs to print every second page ?
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The idea is to print first the front-sides of the paper an the the
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back-sides, to make it look like a book.
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Cu
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/ Fido :Karsten Mauler@2:241/565.27
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** \ mokie ** Z-Netz :SMOKIE@BMB.escape.de
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/ Inernet :SMOKIE@BMB.escape.de
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## CrossPoint v3.02 R ##
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From: SMOKIE@bmb.escape.de (Karsten Mauler)
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Subject: Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree
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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 15:05:00 +0100
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Hi Andy 11.10.94 / 15:51
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b> What I would like to
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b> do is discuss, with some other interested people, various configurations
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b> that they are using for fvwm, that they feel provide unique functionality.
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b> Also, since fvwm provides "modules", it might be possible to set about
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b> making some interesting new ones.
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b> Its just a wild idea, but I'd like to hear from anyone whos interested as
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b> well
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Oh, i think it would be great.But i must say too, that my knowlege of
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Linux and X isn't big.I've start with linux since about two month.At
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the moment i tried to connect my two machines :-)
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But if you start such discussion it maybe would very helpfull for me.
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BTW:Are there any Info's about the konfiguration of fvwm ?
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Cu
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/ Fido :Karsten Mauler@2:241/565.27
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** \ mokie ** Z-Netz :SMOKIE@BMB.escape.de
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/ Inernet :SMOKIE@BMB.escape.de
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## CrossPoint v3.02 R ##
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From: ramos@brixton (Jesus Ramos)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Need Italian and Spanish Xmodmaps
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Date: 13 Oct 1994 15:29:14 GMT
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If you happen ti have any of these, or know where I can find them. please
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e-mail me
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Thanks
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Jesus Ramos
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From: bass@cais2.cais.com (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer))
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Subject: Re: SW Technologies
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Date: 13 Oct 1994 22:12:35 GMT
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Okay, Marvin make a mistake, we all have. Jonathan, please
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post your s-mail address and I'll send you the $4.00
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From: bass@cais2.cais.com (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer))
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Subject: Re: Linux Journal
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Date: 13 Oct 1994 22:15:10 GMT
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Send e-mail to subs@ssc.com or phone
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(206) 527-3385
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Craig Kawahara (craigk@skat.usc.edu) wrote:
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: How do I subscribe to this linux journal that I've been hearing so
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: much about?
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: Craig Kawhara
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: --
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: ...it's hard work being this bored...
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: craigk@ucs.usc.edu | Microcomputer | Me? Speak for UCS? No way!
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: kawahara@scf.usc.edu | Consultant |
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:
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From: fnrjh@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE (root)
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Subject: Re: Does all SCO software run on Linux
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Date: 13 Oct 1994 21:44:28 GMT
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I to have been using wp 5.1 for sco. I use it with linux 1.1.50 (fast!)
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and Xfree 2.1 Will try experment with Xfree 3.1 later... Robert
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fnrjh@dev103.elmer.alaska.edu
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Scott Weinstein (swein@csc.albany.edu)
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wrote: : >>>>> "Mike" == Mike Jagdis <jaggy@purplet.demon.co.uk> writes:
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: Mike> The fact that many, *many* people seem to be using iBCS but
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: Mike> hardly anyone talks to me <sniff> would appear to suggest
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: Mike> there are few applications that have significant problems. I
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: Mike> might be reduced to adding 286 Xenix support soon :-(.
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: I posted about this in comp.windows.x.i368unix, but got no replies.
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: I've been using WP 5.1 for sco unix with linux and Xfree 2.1 for about
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: a month with no real problems.
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: I recently tried to upgrade to XFree 3.1. When I tried out WP, it gave
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: give me lots of Xm* error and then wold give me a seg violation. One time it
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: cause my HD to do *something* for about 1/2 hour. I ended up rebooting
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: that time.
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: I'm at kernel 1.1.45 and am now back to Xfree 2.1.
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From: redgt@io.org (Joe Janakovic)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Yggdrasil & X: What are VGA "clocks"?
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Date: 13 Oct 1994 22:03:22 -0400
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I keep getting asked this question while trying to install an X server for
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my video card. No matter what I do here (ie. hit enter to accept the
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default as it suggests), the monitor can't sync to the video. I've tried
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different values that are all over the map (20 - 135) with no luck.
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The yggdrasil docs are no help.
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I'm running an ATI Mach64 video card with a 3yr-old 1024x768i monitor that I
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have no docs for. The standard vga16 server works fine, anything else
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(incuding auto-detect, ati, mach64, etc) all cause the monitor to fizzle...
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How can find out what value(s) I need to specify?
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--
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Joe Janakovic Internet: joej@golddisk.com
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Software Developer redgt@io.org
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Gold Disk, Inc.
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Toronto, Ont., Canada "ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI!"
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From: bwilson@netcom.com (Bob Wilson)
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Subject: BUS MOUSE KERNEL BUGS
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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 05:55:11 GMT
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Possible BUG with BUSMOUSE Code ********************************************
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Linux Kernel Revision : 1.1.50
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Mouse in Question : Logitech Bus Model No. P7-3F
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(Old Box like, 3 button Style)
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Mouse IRQ : 5
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============================================================================
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Now watch procinfo :
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Linux version 1.1.50 (root@ihoh) (gcc version 2.5.8) #2 Sun Sep 18
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21:14:39 PDT
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1994
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Memory: Total Used Free Shared Buffers
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Mem: 18968 6020 12948 4068 2284
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Swap: 16136 0 16136
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Bootup: Thu Sep 22 12:13:34 1994 Load average: 0.03 0.02 0.00
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user : 0:00:06.48 0.9% page in : 2219
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nice : 0:00:00.00 0.0% page out: 416
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system: 0:00:20.71 2.8% swap in : 1
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idle : 0:11:53.88 96.3% swap out: 0
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uptime: 0:12:21.05 context : 30580
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irq 0: 74107 irq 4: 0 irq 8: 0 irq 12: 0
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irq 1: 4651 irq 5: 9169730 irq 9: 0 irq 13: 0
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irq 2: 0 irq 6: 5 irq 10: 0 irq 14: 87
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irq 3: 4081 irq 7: 0 irq 11: 1334 irq 15: 0
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**NOTICE IRQ 5** (Allowing a minute or two to pass) Here it is again :
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Linux version 1.1.50 (root@ihoh) (gcc version 2.5.8) #2 Sun Sep 18
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21:14:39 PDT
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1994
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Memory: Total Used Free Shared Buffers
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Mem: 18968 6032 12936 4068 2288
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Swap: 16136 0 16136
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Bootup: Thu Sep 22 12:13:34 1994 Load average: 0.02 0.02 0.00
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user : 0:00:07.36 0.9% page in : 2240
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nice : 0:00:00.00 0.0% page out: 451
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system: 0:00:23.28 2.8% swap in : 1
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idle : 0:13:32.14 96.4% swap out: 0
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uptime: 0:14:02.75 context : 35750
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irq 0: 84278 irq 4: 0 irq 8: 0 irq 12: 0
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irq 1: 5084 irq 5: 11187988 irq 9: 0 irq 13: 0
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irq 2: 0 irq 6: 5 irq 10: 0 irq 14: 87
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irq 3: 4461 irq 7: 0 irq 11: 1367 irq 15: 0
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**NOTICE SHARP INCREASE!!**
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Notes : I've noticed this problem for a while now, but I haven't done
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anything about it until I realized that my compile times were
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taking WAY to long, and (sigh) DOOM was unplayable. It is not
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reported in the load average information of course.
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Other problems I've found is that it will conflict with some
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of my low-irq devices, such as my Sound Blaster on IRQ 7. If
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I am catting a sample to /dev/dsp1 (The Sound Blaster device
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when using a ProAudio Spectrum 16) the sample will pop, skip,
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and jump, and eventually I'll get an IO error with the DSP,
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and the process will die. I have noticed this problem with
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the original Sound Blaster as well (before I upgraded to the
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PAS 16).
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I have tried compiling the kernel to use the Bus Mouse on
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other IRQs, including 3, and 4. The problem follows the
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IRQ, and can be seen in procinfo.
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In general, I don't notice any mouse jumpy-ness in either
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X Windows, or under Selection. However, under selection,
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I do notice severe problems controlling the mouse when I
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am catting to /dev/dsp1. It will ignore half of my
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requests.
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Procinfo does not show any increase as long as nothing is
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using the mouse. ie, X isn't running, or selection isn't
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running. But the second they startup whether or not I move
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the mouse, it climbs *fast*.
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Under DOS v6.2 with Logitechs Driver, and Under Windows AND
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OS/2 v2.1, v2.11, v2.99 (WARP 2 BETA) AND
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NeXT STEP v3.1, v3.2 I don't notice any problems with the
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mouse.
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Other System Information :
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- DX2/66 VLB 20 MB RAM
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- Adaptec 1540 IRQ 11/330h (attached to)
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2 HD, 1 Tape, 1 CDROM
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- ISA I/O Card. 16550 on COM2 (Defaults)
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- VLB IDE Hard Drive Controller (attached to)
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2 FD, 1 HD
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- ProAudio Spectrum 16 IRQ 12/380h/DMA3 (containing)
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SoundBlaster 8Bit IRQ 7/220h/DMA1
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- 8 Bit Logitech Bus Mouse Controller IRQ 5
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** END OF REPORT **
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Please email me back with a response, as I don't
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usually read these news groups. Thanks.
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bwilson@netcom.com
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman)
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Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 00:02:36 GMT
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NOTE: I normally sign these notes with a disclaimer BUt to to the nature
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of this particular gripe list and my at times somewhat harsh responses to
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it, i am going to BEGIN this note with the following disclaimer:
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I do not now, nor have I ever worked for Yygdrasil. I have no financial
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conenction to them whatsoever beyond being a happy and satisfied customer.
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In article <37iega$80k@ionews.io.org>,
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Eric Silver <silver.e@nudge.io.org> wrote:
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>Yan Xiao (yxiao@umabnet.ab.umd.edu) wrote:
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>
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>I bought this version three and half weeks ago as well.
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>I was very impressed with the installation program (as compared to
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>Unixware 1.1 AS). Very smooth and a hell of a lot more straightforward.
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>HOWEVER,
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>1.) I have yet to get minicom to download using zmodem although I
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> can dial into my UNIX (BSD) Internet provider.
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> Downloaded files using XMODEM protocol will not run, I get
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> segement errors. These programs include unzip and joe .
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> Yes, my settings are 8N1.
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My minicom (on Fall94) came configured with a bad flag to the upload and
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download protocols. Jsut go into configuration mode as root and change
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the upload and download command strinsg to remove the flags.
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Its worth noting, though that i have had on and off problems oin other
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systems and with other terminal programs with Y and Z modem. It seems
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not all implementers agrred %100 on what the specs meant. (Xmodem is
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simpel enough that it ALWAYS seems to work.) BUT I've been doing Z modem
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just fine bringing stuff down from netcom to my Y-Fall94 system with
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minicom, so I don't think its the Linux protocol thats bad...
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>2.) xmodem downloading adds a few hundred bytes to
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We used to have a problem similar to this on the Amiga. Xmodem by
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definition pads the last block if it doesn't fit exactly. Normally this
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is not a problem, but on the Amiga there is a checksum at the end of
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executables. we had a program we used on the amiga that trimmed off any
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trailing nulls after a download.
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>3.) Simple text editors like joe (give me joe any day I don't
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> use emacs, I don't use vi ) are NOT included. @#$%@!!
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> THIS IS MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT!
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> (If I had the joe editor I could have a least done
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> other work). The joe editor is specifically mentioned
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> in your install manual.
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Okay. I'm sorry your favorite editor isn't there. Its worth noting that i
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use vi NOT because I love it, but because I CAN be gauranteed all UNIX
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systems have it. If you are going to chose to use another editor, you
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ARe going to run into vanilla UNIX installations that don't have your
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editor. Grab it off of an ftp site and recompile.
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>4.) Mounting a dos disk and copying using the
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> cp -p /mnt/unzip /home/root/unzip command results
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> in a properly copied file BUT the binary can not execute.
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I assume you are talking about using the DOSEMU emulator, sicne no one
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woudl expect dos EXE files to run natively under Linux. I'm afraid i
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can't help you tehre 'cause I haven't used it.
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>5.) Attempting to use getty according to documentation does
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> not work. Therefore downloading known operating versions
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> of files can not be accoplished.
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I'm VERY confused. getty is your tty handler. How does this pertian to
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doing downloads? I'm obviously not following you...
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>6.) Ethernet 3C509TP can not ping another workstation on the same
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> LAN although Wollongong DOS drivers allow this.
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Assumign thsi is a supported driver, if you are properly configured, you
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should be able to ping. Are you using the proper ip number? if you are
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trying to ping by host name, have you configued you hosts file? Network
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setup under UNIX takes a little bit of twiddlign with files.
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>7.) No BBS software on the CD although mentioned in the Bible.
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> (If you have room for dup_ramdisk etc, you got room for this.
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This is just plain silly. I'm sorry, but tehre is NO WAY Yygdrasil can
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put ALL available Linux software on the PnP disc. Just because a
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HOW-TO or informational sheet included in the bible mentioend
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something does NOT mean yygdrasil is supplying it. if you read the
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intro at the front of the bible, you will find it contains 3 basic
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types of information:
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a) One version of the yygdrasil manual (whichever was current when it
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was printed.)
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b) various HOW-TO guides from the net.
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c) variosu docs from the Linux documentation project.
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Of these, ONLY A is specific to the yygdrasil release.
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>8.) No instructions in the manual on HOW to make Xwindows run from
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> hda1 without having the /system_cd mounted.
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Sure there are. Use install_component on the x11progs package. I admit
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that the list of what i in this pckage coudl have been a little mroe
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detailed, but it really shouldn't have been THAT hard to take an educated
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guess at given the names of all the other components in NO way
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referencing X. Also, thsi info has been nadided abotu here alot. BTW;
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You DO have the rrata sheet, don't you? if not, pop over to the
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yygdrasil ftp site and get it.
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>9.) The networking component is mentioned in your install manual
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> (pg. 24) but is not available in the install_component list
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> nor is it mentioned in the errata file, nor does it install
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> properly from the Xwindows.
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I've installed the networkj software and it instaleld and runs just fine.
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Currently, I'm onyl using one station, but I'm using telnet and the
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socket supprot locally. Nexst month I'm going SLIp and I really don't
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expect any problems.
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Again., did you get the errata? If not, I wouldn't be suprised if you
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got NOTHING instaleld correctly since there is a specific peice of errata
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regarding one packeage (userbin) that MUSt be installed first from the
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command line before you can use the X based installer.
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>10.) MS-DOS MSCDEX will not activate CDROM properly,
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Tell us more abotu your problem, like what errors you see, and maybe we
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can help you.
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> bootflpy.3in hangs after the letters 'LI' appear on the
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> screen. (The story behind this is that UW 1.1 AS was used to
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> copy this file and RAWRITE.EXE to a DOS PC. So that I could
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> create a second install disk. The first install disk that came
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> with the package operates fine.
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i have no idea what UW 1.1 AS is, but you clearly have a corrupted image
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of the revision B floppy on your disk, as it works fine for me.
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If you like, I will send you a uuencoded copy of my 3in revB boot floppy
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(which came from the yygdrasil ftp site) and a uuencoded copy of my
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rawwrite.exe (which came right off of the Fall94 CD-ROM). I have sent
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these to many other people who have had no trouble using them.
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>
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>Other than these few insurrmountable hurdles, things are just ducky! NOT!
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>Before yggdrasil dumps on me, yes I ftp'd errata from your ftp
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>site 1 day after purchasing the package.
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>I guess its my own fault. As consumers we should expect thirty-nine
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>dollar performance from a $39.00 (plus tax) Unix. I'll be happy to
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>post more problems as I come across them.
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>Eric Silver
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If I can be frank for a moment, it looks to me like most of your
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insurmountable hurdles regard your own knowledge and expectations. All
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the sfotware you cited as 'missing' are not in general in commercially
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realesed UNIX installations. Thats what the net is for. Most of your
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'defects' are unique to your situation, many others have had no trouble
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with these features, particularly after following the instructions in the
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errata sheet.
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It IS concievable that you have some very weird hardware that is causing
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some of your problems, but as you give NO specifics as to exactly how the
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sofwtare creashes and what it prinst out, tehres not much anyone can do
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to help you.
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jeff Kesselman
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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From: thantos@runic.mind.org (Alexander Williams)
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 13:56:08 GMT
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In article <379kpg$3ji@solaria.cc.gatech.edu>,
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Byron A Jeff <byron@gemini.cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
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>Folks neither TeX, groff, or another other typesetter, or emulated WP like
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>WordPerfect under DOS/WINDOWS or SCO is going to cut it here. A Wordprocessor
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>is such a critical resource in a computing system that Linux has the potential
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>of never making inroads beyond its supposed "hacker/Unix junkie" clientele.
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I disagree, at least about TeX, groff etc ``not cutting'' it in terms
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of effectiveness. That's simply a non-truth. What we /may/ need is
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some kind of ``front-end'' for those who don't want the nitty-gritty
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of dealing with TeX directly. Let's be frank, what WYSIWYG word
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processor for other platforms has the full functionality of TeX?
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Admittedly, I used Ventura Publisher as a word-processor for a while,
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I but asside from /that/...
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It should be /far/ easier to create a system that backends onto TeX or
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groff, depending on one's tastes (and which can /read/ those formats
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as well, that's important in an environ that passes them around in
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themselves), and which can use the tools of power already extant to
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build on. Creating something from scratch seems to /me/ to be
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rebuilding the wheel rather than simply making it look snazzy.
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Of course, for my money I use Emacs on the LaTeX front, as little as I
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know, and keep wishing it had a groff-mode too. :)
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