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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 94 00:13:35 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #954
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Linux-Misc Digest #954, Volume #2 Mon, 17 Oct 94 00:13:35 EDT
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Contents:
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Host name aliases (William Beckner)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Mark A. Davis)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (READ THIS!) (Mark A. Davis)
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Re: Telnet & ftp freeze! - AND UNFREEZE KLUDGE (For me to know.)
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Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware (Jeff Kesselman)
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Re: NE2000+ and AHA1542CF problems (Darius Quenum)
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Slackware SCSI detect... (just me)
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A Couple term questions (x93frey3@wmich.edu)
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Re: nedit for Linux? (Uwe Daub)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (READ THIS!) (Byron A Jeff)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Byron A Jeff)
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Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processor (Byron A Jeff)
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Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processor (Byron A Jeff)
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Re: More on word processors... svgalib? (Byron A Jeff)
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Re: Weakest Linux Box (Erik Corry)
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Re: SPEC run on Linux? (Erik Corry)
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Stable kernel version opinion? (Marc Ewing)
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From: wbeckner@darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us (William Beckner)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Host name aliases
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Date: 13 Oct 1994 11:19:41 -0500
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Does anybody know where I can get information about how to set up our DNS
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to have a second hostname, but pointing to the same machine?
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I'd like to set our info serer up so that if anyone on the 'Net wanted to
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access our gopher, then all they would need to enter is
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'gopher gopher.rsa.lib.il.us' instead of 'gopher darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us'.
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Please e-mail suggestions or post here. I'll be watching (lurking).
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Thanks! :)
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--
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=============================================================================
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William Beckner - System Manager/SysAdmin wbeckner@darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us
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Ph : (309) 694-5513
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FAX: (309) 694-5297
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Resource Sharing Alliance of West Central Illinois, Inc.
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East Peoria, IL (USA) "Off of Route 24 on the Information Highway"
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=============================================================================
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System Administration -
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It's a dirty job, but somebody said I had to do it.
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 17:50:48 GMT
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byron@gemini.cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) writes:
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>However what's missing is the functionality along the lines of early
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>WordPerfect or Word applications. Text based, formatting hidden from the
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>user, prints to lots of printers, basic wordprocessing functionality of
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>font size and type, text placement, highlights like bold, italics, underline
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>etc., and basic table generation.
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Actually, the current version of WordPerfect for Unix does ship with
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a text based version (as well as the X based WYSIWYG). There is no compromise;
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choose which version you need, or run both. (Inotherwords, you don't have
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to go to an early version of WP to get that functionality). MS-"Word" is
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a different story.
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--
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/--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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| Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
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| Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems | mark@taylor.infi.net |
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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (READ THIS!)
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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 18:01:00 GMT
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byron@gemini.cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) writes:
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>In article <37lv3s$ho0@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>,
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>Gareth Webber <gpw1000@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
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>>I am sorry but what is wrong with using the iBCS module and running SCO
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>>wordperfect. In fact iBCS currently allows linux to run binaries from
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>>lots of other intel unices with work on *BSD being made as we speak.
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>Because of the audience. Typical conversation.
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>(NU: Newbie User, LE: Linux Enthusiast)
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>Senario after a brand new Linux installation on NU machine.
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>LE: See. With Linux you can have multiple users, multiple tasks, all at the
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> same time.
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>NU: Ok where is the Wordprocessor?
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>LE: Well all I have to do is get the IBSC2 package and install it. It's on
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> tsx-11.mit.edu. Oh Oh we don't have a net connection from here.
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>NU: So you mean it doesn't have a wordprocessor?
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>LE: No it just has to be installed. WordPerfect runs fine.
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That is a packaging problem. As far as I am concerned, Linux distributions
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should have IBCS included and install it as an option.
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>NU: Well there's a copy of Windows 6.0 Wordperfect on the DOS disk. Run that.
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Nahh.... upgrade it to the Unix version :)
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>LE: Well I can't because Linux doesn't run windows applications.
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Maybe not MS-"Windows", but certainly windows....
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>NU: What about DOS then?
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>LE: Sure. The DOS emulator runs all DOS applications. But I'll have to install
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> the emulator. Hmm. That's on sunsite. I can get a floppy with it tomorrow.
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Another thing which should be installable from Slackware but is not (at least
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in 2.0). (I know, it's not officially out of Beta, but neither is IBCS and
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that seems to run as solid as a rock)
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>NU: So your telling me that Linux has no Wordprocessor unless you add something
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> else that you don't have with you. It's too complicated. Take it off my
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> machine.
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So MS-DOS comes packaged with a word processor? What about commercial
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Unixes? OS/2? I don't think that last line makes much sense. You have
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to "add" something to any OS to get a word processor; even if it is just
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the wp software itself.
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>>Linux doesn't need a WP of its own when it can be used as a base to run
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>>apps from all the other major opearing systems (unices, windows under wine
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>>ans dos under dosemu).
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>Yes it does. Linux needs to have its own native apps just like all the other
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>systems have their own native apps. It'll run faster, requires much less
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>setup, and most improtantly it can be free so that it can be distributed with
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>the disk.
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Indeed we do need a native WP. Primarily because of cost (free). WP for
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Unix and everything else I have run under Linux's IBCS seems to run just
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as fast as native SCO. I'm not sure I think it is even appropriate to
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called the IBCS code an "emulator" anymore.... But it would round things
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out to have a free word processor (like WP) for all Unix platforms.
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--
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/--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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| Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
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| Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems | mark@taylor.infi.net |
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From: anon30be@nyx10.cs.du.edu (For me to know.)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.development
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Subject: Re: Telnet & ftp freeze! - AND UNFREEZE KLUDGE
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Date: 16 Oct 1994 04:35:02 -0600
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In article <37onum$2fe@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov>,
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Donald Becker <becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov> wrote:
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>In article <37mui3$44c@mickey.iaccess.za>,
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>Steve Davies <steve@iaccess.za> wrote:
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>>The fix is to kill inetd and start a new one.
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Agreed. This does seem to always fix the problem but is a very messy way
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of doing things. This is not a solution when it has to be done five to
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ten times in one day.
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>>
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>>The cause? I have found that the problem is caused by people connecting
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>>with SLIP and using the *wrong IP address* on their end. In other words
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>>they have configured their IP stack with an address different from that
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>>in the diphosts file.
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This is the cause on your computer but what about other people. I know
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that many people have the most problems with SLIP but it is definately
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not the only place an error occurs.
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>This would explain a lot!
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>The problem is unlikely to happen with other connection types.
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>Most people that could track this problem down have correctly configured
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>connections and never see the problem.
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This may be the cause on your machine but it certainly is not the problem
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on mine. As has been found by many other people it is not even a problem
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in the inetd.
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/-------------------------------+---------------------------------------------\
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| Andrew Radke | Western Halls |
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| wyvern@deepport.jcu.edu.au | James Cook University |
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| andrew.radke@jcu.edu.au | Australia, 4811 |
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+-------------------------------+---------------------------------------------+
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| 'Indeed, it is possible that the black hole could emit a television set or |
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| the works of Proust in 10 leather-bound volumes . . .' - Stephen W. Hawking |
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From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman)
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Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Fall 1994: buyers be aware
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 03:26:43 GMT
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In article <1994Oct14.215738.7802@bolero.okay.com>,
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Jim Duncan <duncan@bolero.okay.com> wrote:
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>In article <crawford-121094134337@stonehenge.think.com>,
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>Lee Crawford <crawford@think.com> wrote:
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>>In article <YXIAO.94Oct7163816@umabnet.ab.umd.edu>,
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>>yxiao@umabnet.ab.umd.edu (Yan Xiao) wrote:
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>>
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>>> The current yggdrasil CD is our second buy, and I can
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>>> see the decline in quality.
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>
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>I noticed this also. The file system rearrangement was sloppy. Some
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>scripts don't run without complaints about missing files and
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>directories. I was never sure whether there was a problem with the
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>CD-ROM install, my machine, or me. The Fall '94 is half-baked.
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>
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>I used the Fall '94 for a whole day - Columbus Day, which I had off.
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>Then, giving up on this possibly bogus product, I blew up the install
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>and went back to Summer '94, which, in my opinion, seems to be a better
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>quality package. Next time I go to my favorite UNIX reseller, Promox
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>Systems in Sunnyvale, I'm going to bitch about it. I have two Linux
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>machines which were supposed to be Summer and Fall, respectively; at
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>this point, they're now both Summer '94.
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>--
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>K-FOX| w ["] | WA6MBV
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>94.5 |... |___|_____..duncan@bolero.okay.com | Jim Duncan
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>KUFX | H | 408.297.5977
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>******** \_____I_____/ 37 3 10N/121 59 10W **************
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I'm sorry you guys seem to have had trouble with your discs. I';ve had
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Fall94 instaleld for a month now of development time (nights and
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weekends) and its behaved flawlessly, but maybe we are using different
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things. Have you checked the erratta sheet? There were a few known link
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problems, but not very many as I recall....
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JK
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STD DISCLAIMER: I am not now, nor have I ever been, working for
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yygdrasil. I'm just a satisfied customer.
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From: darius@labori.gna.org (Darius Quenum)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: NE2000+ and AHA1542CF problems
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Date: 16 Oct 1994 01:50:06 GMT
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I beleive IRQ 3 is reserved for tty01 under Linux. So you must put your
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NE2000 card under IRQ 15 with port 340. I think is one of the best way.
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But don't change your Adaptec's configuration because it's a good
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configuration. If you got a problem again then you must read your
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main-card's documentation for fixing the jumpers.
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friendly
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darius quenum
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email: darius@droopy.labori.gna.org
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From: salad@netcom.com (just me)
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Subject: Slackware SCSI detect...
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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 16:24:05 GMT
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I'm having problems getting the Slackware SCSI kernel to recognize
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a SCSI CDROM.
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It finds the Adaptec controller and a hard drive just fine, but that's it.
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Can anyone tell me how the SCSI kernel does it's detect for devices on
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the SCSI BUS?
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-Alan
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From: x93frey3@wmich.edu
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: A Couple term questions
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Date: 16 Oct 94 17:48:24 EDT
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I have term running and I was wondering if someone could help me write a
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simple script. My problem is that I have autologout on my remote system
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after 30 minutes of inactivity. I was wondering if I could have a script
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that executes ever 10 minutes or so just sending something over the
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link so that it doesn't show that I am idle. I would really appreciate.
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The other question that I have is if I can somehow fix the remote hostname
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My second question is about remote hostname passing over term. When
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ever I use this I get that the remote host is localhost and I would
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like to find a way to pass the host name. Thanks for this help in
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advance
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Jeffrey Frey 99frey@lab.cc.wmich.edu
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From: daub@cs.uni-duesseldorf.de (Uwe Daub)
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Subject: Re: nedit for Linux?
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Date: 16 Oct 1994 12:08:20 GMT
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In article <37mmna$idb@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>, fconway@chs.mb.ca (Frank
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Conway) writes:
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|> I have recently dicovered an editor for my Sun called nedit.
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|> Source code is available. I really like this editor, and
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|> will be porting it to Linux for home use.
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|>
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|> Has anyone already done this? If so, I won't waste my time.
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|>
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|> -----
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|>
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|> Frank J. Conway Email fconway@chs.mb.ca
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|> Continental Healthcare Systems Canada
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|> 19th Floor, 155 Carlton Street Phone (204) 942-2992 Ext. 253
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|> Winnipeg, Manitoba Fax (204) 942-3001
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|> Canada R3C 3H8
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|>
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|>
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There isn't anything special about compiling NEdit-3.1.
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It compiles out of the box with the following entries in the
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'Makefile.linux' in the subdirectories ./sources and .util
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of the NEdit source tree:
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CC=gcc
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AR=ar
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CFLAGS= -m486 -O -Dlinux -DMOTIF12
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LIBS= -lXm -lXt -lX11
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include Makefile.common
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You see NEdit is a MOTIF application so you need the MOTIF-libs
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to compile it!
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--
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===============================================================================
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Dipl.-Math. Uwe Daub Mathematisches Institut der
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Tel.: +49 211 311-3713 / 3190 Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Duesseldorf
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Fax: +49 211 311-3117 Abteilung fuer Informatik
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E-mail: daub@cs.uni-duesseldorf.de Universitaetstr. 1
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E-mail: uwe.daub@uni-duesseldorf.de D-40225 Duesseldorf
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From: byron@gemini.cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff)
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (READ THIS!)
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Date: 16 Oct 1994 21:53:35 GMT
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Let me state that Mark and I are in the same camp. So no arguments here. BAJ
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In article <1994Oct16.180100.12212@taylor.infi.net>,
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Mark A. Davis <mark@taylor.infi.net> wrote:
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-byron@gemini.cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) writes:
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->In article <37lv3s$ho0@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>,
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->Gareth Webber <gpw1000@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
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->>I am sorry but what is wrong with using the iBCS module and running SCO
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->>wordperfect. In fact iBCS currently allows linux to run binaries from
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->>lots of other intel unices with work on *BSD being made as we speak.
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-
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->Because of the audience. Typical conversation.
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->(NU: Newbie User, LE: Linux Enthusiast)
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->Senario after a brand new Linux installation on NU machine.
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->LE: See. With Linux you can have multiple users, multiple tasks, all at the
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-> same time.
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->NU: Ok where is the Wordprocessor?
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->LE: Well all I have to do is get the IBSC2 package and install it. It's on
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-> tsx-11.mit.edu. Oh Oh we don't have a net connection from here.
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->NU: So you mean it doesn't have a wordprocessor?
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->LE: No it just has to be installed. WordPerfect runs fine.
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-That is a packaging problem. As far as I am concerned, Linux distributions
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-should have IBCS included and install it as an option.
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It's a three-fold problem of packaging, emulation, and purchase. I agree that
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all the emulators should be bundled.
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I also agree that emulated programs work well under Linux.
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But sine Wordprocessing in so fundamental I think there is a real need for
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a simple and native Wordprocessor for Linux. It can easily solve the
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packaging, emulation (none), and purchase(no cost) issues.
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->NU: Well there's a copy of Windows 6.0 Wordperfect on the DOS disk. Run that.
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-Nahh.... upgrade it to the Unix version :)
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->LE: Well I can't because Linux doesn't run windows applications.
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-Maybe not MS-"Windows", but certainly windows....
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MS-Windows is the only kind of Windows for most novice users. And more
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importantly a WordProcessor is the type of application that a novice user
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must have.
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->NU: What about DOS then?
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->LE: Sure. The DOS emulator runs all DOS applications. But I'll have to install
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-> the emulator. Hmm. That's on sunsite. I can get a floppy with it tomorrow.
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-
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-Another thing which should be installable from Slackware but is not (at least
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-in 2.0). (I know, it's not officially out of Beta, but neither is IBCS and
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-that seems to run as solid as a rock)
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Agreed. We need the emulators. But a native wordprocessor will somewhat obviate
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the need initially.
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->NU: So your telling me that Linux has no Wordprocessor unless you add something
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-> else that you don't have with you. It's too complicated. Take it off my
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-> machine.
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-So MS-DOS comes packaged with a word processor?
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No however most PC's nowadays come with a DOS/Windows/Office package bundle.
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It's become so commonplace that it seems that DOS/Windows does come with
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a Wordprocessor attached.
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- What about commercial
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-Unixes? OS/2? I don't think that last line makes much sense. You have
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-to "add" something to any OS to get a word processor; even if it is just
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-the wp software itself.
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I agree that it doesn't make sense. I was trying two say that this is the
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kind of argument I get when I discuss Linux with naive new users.
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But a native WordProcessor that installed with the rest of the system would
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be a big win.
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->>Linux doesn't need a WP of its own when it can be used as a base to run
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->>apps from all the other major opearing systems (unices, windows under wine
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->>ans dos under dosemu).
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-
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->Yes it does. Linux needs to have its own native apps just like all the other
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->systems have their own native apps. It'll run faster, requires much less
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->setup, and most improtantly it can be free so that it can be distributed with
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->the disk.
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-
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-Indeed we do need a native WP. Primarily because of cost (free). WP for
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-Unix and everything else I have run under Linux's IBCS seems to run just
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-as fast as native SCO. I'm not sure I think it is even appropriate to
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-called the IBCS code an "emulator" anymore.... But it would round things
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-out to have a free word processor (like WP) for all Unix platforms.
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See I told you we were in the same camp. I like the emulation. I like being
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about to run a wide variety of applications on my Linux box. But a
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wordprocessor is something that the Linux environment needs to claim for
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itself.
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Thanks for the comments Mark.
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Later,
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BAJ
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Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel - And Using Linux!
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Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu
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From: byron@gemini.cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: 16 Oct 1994 22:10:55 GMT
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In article <1994Oct16.175048.11218@taylor.infi.net>,
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Mark A. Davis <mark@taylor.infi.net> wrote:
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-byron@gemini.cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) writes:
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-
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->However what's missing is the functionality along the lines of early
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->WordPerfect or Word applications. Text based, formatting hidden from the
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->user, prints to lots of printers, basic wordprocessing functionality of
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->font size and type, text placement, highlights like bold, italics, underline
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->etc., and basic table generation.
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-
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-Actually, the current version of WordPerfect for Unix does ship with
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-a text based version (as well as the X based WYSIWYG). There is no compromise;
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-choose which version you need, or run both. (Inotherwords, you don't have
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-to go to an early version of WP to get that functionality). MS-"Word" is
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-a different story.
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I knew that Mark. In fact I have a copy of SCO WordPerfect 5.1 sitting
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on my desk waiting for kernel upgrade and the IBSC2 installation necessary
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to install it.
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But as you pointed out in another post I'm cheap. After getting used to
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free OS's, editors, compilers, and the like why should I pay for a
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WordProcessor? Even if it's the same price as the DOS product (which I
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personally don't use anyway.)
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BAJ
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Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
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Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel - And Using Linux!
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Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu
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From: byron@gemini.cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff)
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Subject: Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processor
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Date: 16 Oct 1994 22:15:15 GMT
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In article <37s49r$a51@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
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Ted Harding <Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> wrote:
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-I don't think this is a primary goal - as such - of many people who
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-would like to see Linux working better as a workbench. To be frank,
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-one of the reasons many people stay with DOS is that the applications
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-are varied, in many cases excellent, and easy and quick to use - you
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-can get your work done efficiently using them. This is not yet the
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-case with more than a few applications on Linux. The work-horse areas
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-are
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-text-processing,
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Big hole. EZ or doc for X windows. TeX or groff for formatting. No real
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easy to use console/terminal based Wordprocessor.
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-spreadsheets,
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sc, xspread
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-databases,
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ingres, postgress, FlagShip, metalbase, and others.
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-graphics and (for some)
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Xpaint, Xfig
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-maths/stats/computation.
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octave and others for math/computation. Not sure about stats.
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The point is that a lot of the tools exist for much of this work.
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BAJ
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Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel - And Using Linux!
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Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu
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From: byron@gemini.cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff)
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Subject: Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processor
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Date: 16 Oct 1994 22:07:48 GMT
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In article <1994Oct14.210628.17009@rosevax.r>,
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<grante@reddwarf.rosemount.com> wrote:
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-Subject: Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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-
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-Mat Ballard (m.ballard@forprod.csiro.au) wrote:
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-
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-: more seriously, i'd like to suggest that what is needed, particularly
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-: to appeal to the average dos/win user, is a series of useful and capable
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-: applets, in roughly this order of need:
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-
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-I'm not trying to discourage anybody from developing a nice X11
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-spreadsheet, word processor, drawing program, or whatever.
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Actually all three already exist (xpread, EZ, xfig/xpaint).
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-
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-What I don't understand is the wish to make Linux applications appeal
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-to the "average dos/win" user. When developing an application for
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-Linux, shouldn't the concern be to make it appeal to the Linux user?
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Yes. However in almost every situation where computers are involved
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people that I know look to me for guidance. Since I really can't stand
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DOS/Windows I have a selfish motivation to encourage folks to use Linux.
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However to do that a basic suite of applications that are available for
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DOS/Windows needs to be available for Linux too.
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-
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-[...]
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-
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-: after a while, this, i think, would get your average dos/win user
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-: happily chugging away on linux.
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-
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-There seems to be an assumed goal of "converting" dos/win users to
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-Linux -- and I don't understand why this is a worthy goal.
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Like I said selfishness. If you'd driven the best car you'd ever driven
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or tasted the best grilled chicken sandwich ever made wouldn't you tell
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your family and friends about it and encourage them to try it? Linux is
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the same way.
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- I'm a bit
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-of a relativist so I have my doubts that there is a "one true faith"
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-(especially regarding OS/language/editor preferences).
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There is no one true way. However my preference is not to deal with
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DOS/Windows unless it's absolutely necessary. In fact for folks where it's
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clear they don't need anything more I endorse using DOS/Windows. However I
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oftentimes (and sometimes honestly ;-) play dumb to the "how do you do this
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and how do you do that?" questions that invariably come up.
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-
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-Do we really care about "market share" like Bill Gates?
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Not like Bill Gates (9.8 billion bucks. Wow!).
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-
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-Do we want Linux to be a mass-market product?
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Hell yes! I'd love to put Mr. Gates out of business.
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BAJ
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--
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Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
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Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel - And Using Linux!
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Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu
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From: byron@gemini.cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff)
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Subject: Re: More on word processors... svgalib?
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Date: 16 Oct 1994 22:21:43 GMT
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In article <1994Oct16.192808.22243@dmi.stevens-tech.edu>,
|
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Guess who? <jmcphers@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> wrote:
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>Just as a general question to all, how hard would it be to write a wysiwyg
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>word processor to use the svgalib instead of x? And can apps that use
|
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>svgalib be run remotely?
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Well SVGA raises some possibilities. However as a few of us keep pointing
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out that there are a lot of old terminals and 8088/80286/EGA/CGA machines
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in use out there.
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The real fact is that a mojority of setups that can run SVGALIB can run X
|
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too. So what exactly is the real win of choosing one over the other?
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Someone show me a free functional WordProcessor that runs properly on a
|
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vt-320 terminal and I'll promise to shut up about wordprocessors. And while
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HWP is a step in the right direction, it's not all there yet.
|
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Later,
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BAJ
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--
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Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
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Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel - And Using Linux!
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Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu
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From: erik@kroete2.freinet.de (Erik Corry)
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|
Subject: Re: Weakest Linux Box
|
|
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 21:54:06 GMT
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Steven Pritchard (spritcha@nyx10.cs.du.edu) wrote:
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: Well, I didn't actually *use* it, but I booted SLS on my 386SX/16 when it
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: only had 2 meg. I waited for 2 more meg before installing it.
|
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That's nothing - I even switched off the turbo :-) And loved it!
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Erik "Yorkshireman" Corry.
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--
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Erik Corry, Freiburg, Germany, +49 761 406637 erik@kroete2.freinet.de
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From: erik@kroete2.freinet.de (Erik Corry)
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|
Subject: Re: SPEC run on Linux?
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|
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 21:57:29 GMT
|
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|
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Sujat Jamil (sujat@shasta.ee.umn.edu) wrote:
|
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: Does anyone know if anyone has run SPEC on Linux boxes? If so, what
|
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: were the numbers like?
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|
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: It'd be very interesting to compare SPEC numbers on high-end x86
|
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: machines running Linux with that of lower end workstations.
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It would also be interesting to compare the SPEC numbers with those
|
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obtained by Intel. Does a Pentium really produce twice the integer
|
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performance per MHz compared with a 486? With gcc?
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--
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Erik Corry, Freiburg, Germany, +49 761 406637 erik@kroete2.freinet.de
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From: marc@redhat.com (Marc Ewing)
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Subject: Stable kernel version opinion?
|
|
Date: 14 Oct 1994 02:12:57 -0400
|
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|
|
We are putting the finishing touches on our CD-ROM distribution
|
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and I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the stability
|
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of some of the more recent kernels.
|
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|
|
Our install procedure allows you to use multiple kernel versions,
|
|
and right now we have 1.0.9 and 1.1.18. Version 1.1.53 has been
|
|
a little bit troublesome and may not make the cut. What version
|
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do you think is the latest, most stable release?
|
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Thanks for your opinions,
|
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Marc
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