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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 94 10:13:32 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #957
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Linux-Misc Digest #957, Volume #2 Mon, 17 Oct 94 10:13:32 EDT
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Contents:
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Q: "Couldn't Open CONSOLE" (Helen Song)
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Re: getting linux to work dail-up
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Vertical Movement Died on Trackball ! (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer))
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Re: HHTP/HTML editor for Linux?? (Benjamin John Walter)
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*** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.09) (Ian Jackson)
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Re: Is there time out setting for DIP??? (Karl Keyte)
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IDE or SCSI CD-ROM (Janusz Smolak)
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Applets; was: Word (Text) processor (Ted Harding)
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Re: Automounter? (Mitchum DSouza)
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Re: [INFO WANTED] Memory required for 100 terminals? (root)
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Re: LOCAL: Meeting for Linux Enthusiasts in Atlanta (Robert Story)
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Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (zachary brown)
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Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Mat Ballard)
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WP Project --Info and Volunteers WANTED!!! (Cory Zito)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Lars Marowsky-Bree)
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Re: Mystery chip...AMD (Alberto Vignani)
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Re: Which file to auto-run X programs in? (Brian Lane)
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Re: More on word processors... svgalib? (Mark A. Davis)
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Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux? (Mark A. Davis)
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Re: Frame Maker for Linux! (Mark A. Davis)
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From: song@cloud9.net (Helen Song)
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Subject: Q: "Couldn't Open CONSOLE"
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Date: 17 Oct 1994 09:53:01 GMT
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In article <Cxt073.IB5@rahul.net>, Kevin Martinez <lps@rahul.net> wrote:
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>#
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># start console window (in background)
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>#
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>#######################################################################
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>xconsole -geometry =650x100+115+1 -font fixed -fg blue &
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I just put the line in my .xinitrc and typed xinit.
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But the window for the xconsole displays "Couldn't open console."
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Could any one tell me why, and how to fix the problem?
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Thanks,
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Helen
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From: manolo@fobos.ulpgc.es ()
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: getting linux to work dail-up
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Date: 16 Oct 1994 14:54:38 GMT
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Jacob Zielinski (jzielin@vanbc.wimsey.com) wrote:
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: Has anyone be able to hook their modem up so that you can dail into linux?
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: The people on #linux suggested agetty, and mgetty. But I didn't get to far
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: with those to commands. Could somebody who as done this explain how or at
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: least point me toward some docs.
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: Thank you
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Really the one that I'm always using is getty_ps, it works flawlessly
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and you can do dial in/out...
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Remember to use setserial with hup_notify in the port..
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MGM
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From: bass@cais2.cais.com (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer))
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Subject: Vertical Movement Died on Trackball !
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Date: 15 Oct 1994 02:10:43 GMT
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My new linux laptoy just had a mouse crash, or track ball
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failure! The trackball moves the cursor side-to-side,
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but up-and-down is dead. I've soft and hard rebooted
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and tried differnet window managers, but Nothing.
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Ideas on what to do next?
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From: ben@tsunami.demon.co.uk (Benjamin John Walter)
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Subject: Re: HHTP/HTML editor for Linux??
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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 21:09:31 +0000
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: Is there a compiled HTTP server and HTML editor available for Linux? If
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: so, what ftp site?
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I've been playing with tkHTML and I'm impressed. If you chose to
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installed tc/tkl on your system then I'd recommend tkHTML. It's
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neat, I don't remember where I picked it up from... I'll look...
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okay, here we go *finishes rummaging through a huge pile of printed
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sheets*... its available from:
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http://alfred1.u.washington.edu:8080/~roland/tkHTML/tkHTML.html
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ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/roland/tkHTML
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peace,
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Ben
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--
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/ / (_)__ __ ____ __
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/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a
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/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . .
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From: ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Jackson)
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Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.09)
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 10:03:02 GMT
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Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of
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which groups you should read and post to.
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Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux
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hierarchy. See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted biweekly to
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comp.os.linux.announce.
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If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently
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Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or
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from another Linux FTP site. It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce.
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In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!'
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The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of
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particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place.
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Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not
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comp.os.linux.misc.
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Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and
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that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions.
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Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in
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/pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq.
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Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other
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Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not a contribution to the development
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of Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration
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- should you post to comp.os.linux.misc.
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Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me !
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--
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Ian Jackson <ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu> (urgent email: iwj@cam-orl.co.uk)
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2 Lexington Close, Cambridge, CB4 3LS, England; phone: +44 1223 64238
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 09:25:50 +0100
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From: kkeyte@esoc.bitnet (Karl Keyte)
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Reply-To: kkeyte@esoc.bitnet
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Subject: Re: Is there time out setting for DIP???
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Uri tells me that dip-3.3.7i has an inactivity timeout. He tells
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me that he put it in sunsite's Incoming directory. Uri is on
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uri@watson.ibm.com.
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Karl
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=========================================================================
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Vitrociset S.p.A. Tel : +(49) 6151 902041
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European Space Agency Fax : +(49) 6151 904041
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From: jsmolak@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Janusz Smolak)
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Subject: IDE or SCSI CD-ROM
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 01:58:41 GMT
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I'm considering buying a CD-ROM kit and I need some help with selection
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a good package. Can I install Linux and OS/2 using IDE CD-ROM, or do I
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have to use a SCSI? Can anyone suggest a brand name of a good CD-ROM
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drive and sound card that will work well with those two systems.
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I'd really appreciate any info.ct.
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Janusz...
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From: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Ted Harding)
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Subject: Applets; was: Word (Text) processor
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Date: 17 Oct 1994 07:44:46 -0400
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Reply-To: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Ted Harding)
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Byron A. Jeff wrote:-
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=====================
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| Ted Harding <Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> wrote:
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| -I don't think this is a primary goal - as such - of many people who
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| -would like to see Linux working better as a workbench. To be frank,
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| -one of the reasons many people stay with DOS is that the applications
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| -are varied, in many cases excellent, and easy and quick to use - you
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| -can get your work done efficiently using them. This is not yet the
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| -case with more than a few applications on Linux. The work-horse areas
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| -are
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| -text-processing,
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| Big hole. EZ or doc for X windows. TeX or groff for formatting. No real
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| easy to use console/terminal based Wordprocessor.
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* Agreed. Causes me no trouble 'cos I'm a hardened vi/groff type (even
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used to use groff under DOS), but you should hear some other people's
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comments on the WP question.
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| -spreadsheets,
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| sc, xspread
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* 'sc': nice for small jobs, useful basic export interface
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(tables to tbl+groff), but not heavy-duty.
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* 'xspread': getting there, but functionality patchy (roughly, basic
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use of Quattro). Again, hear comments of Quattro fans: "Where is ... ?".
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* Also, by the way 'oleo', but weird interface (and doesn't work right
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for me).
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| -databases,
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| ingres, postgress, FlagShip, metalbase, and others.
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* 'ingres': You have to program it by hand, terrible drag. Almost
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unusable for quick, efficient interactive database work (compared
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EVEN with CP/M dBASE-II, for those who remember that); thoroughbred
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concept though; Linux ("University Igres") version lacks the friendly(er)
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front-end of the commercial version.
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* 'postgres': Could be good for users who want sophisticated database
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concepts. Won't work for me (wrong kernel - and I ain't up-dating
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till I hear that something later is SOLID). Same front-end problem
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as INGRES.
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* Flagship: Very good, but compiler ONLY of application already composed
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in dBASE-type language. Needs a dBASE-compatible prototyping workbench
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(see dBMAN below).
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* Metalbase: interesting, but scruffy and primitive front-end. Also, for
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me, severe "ncurses" problems - writes at random all over the screen;
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not impressive yet (am trying to solve this with new ncurses).
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* dBMAN: Commercial dBASE-III+ with extensions, recently ported to Linux.
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This could be what people are looking for (I have copy on order, will
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report whether it's as good as it's hyped).
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* Others: I've scanned the info; mostly lab-benches for CompSci students
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and researchers, or special-purpose. Not on, in the present context.
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| -graphics and (for some)
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| Xpaint, Xfig
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* Agreed graphics is better served in Linux than most other applications.
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Main problem is smooth interface with other (spreadsheet, dbase,
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computation) applications. Need svgalib graphics for when you don't
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(or can't ... ) use X (GLE is nice but quirky, not yet mature, I think
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-- ? arrested development ? ).
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| -maths/stats/computation.
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| octave and others for math/computation. Not sure about stats.
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* 'octave' is not bad at all. I use it almost exclusively, for stats too;
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but it needs dedication (you have to construct a lot yourself), though
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it's the same for its cousin MatLab, of course. Newer version (in
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"snapshots" stage of development) promises well, but I'll have to
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upgrade gcc before I'll be able to use it. Suffers from depending
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on 'gnuplot' for graphics and for some aspects of the computation
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(like contouring) that it ought to do itself. However, it's almost the
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only "free" option worth looking at. Not to everyone's taste by any means.
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* Maple: Commercial and good; ported to Linux.
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* Mathematica and Gauss: Availability for Linux is a big Q-mark.
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* LispStat (for stats): could be good, if compilable from the sources.
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I'm looking into this. Seems to be emacs-dependent.
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| The point is that a lot of the tools exist for much of this work.
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* My point was that SOME of the tools exist for SOME of this work,
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and it's a very mixed bag. Most lack functionality and ease-of-use
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that users of run-of-the-mill DOS rograms take for granted. I'm
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not fundamentally grumbling (otherwise I'd not be sticking with
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Linux), but it's a very serious issue. Thanks for your comments.
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Ted. (Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk)
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From: Mitchum.DSouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk (Mitchum DSouza)
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Subject: Re: Automounter?
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Date: 17 Oct 1994 10:40:40 GMT
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In article <5YqIE4PjCwB@wizzard.ping.de>, k.dittmann@wizzard.ping.de (Well, my
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name is Jesus...) writes:
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|> > Hi
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|> > Need advice if there is an automounter for Linux that works with YP and
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|> > the automountd for Solaris 2.3 on a SS10.
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|> > Please email reply...
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|> Please don't Reply by eMail, post it in this group...
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|> I Think there are some other netter's who want know about this
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|> (Like me...)
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No, not one which satisfy both those criteria. Each commercial vendor provides
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his/her own automounter which is not compatable with other systems. Linux
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however does support the AMD automounter which can be compiled and run
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on a wide variety of machines. But AMD cannot talk the correct language to Sun
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automountd.
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Mitch
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From: root@vorlon.mit.edu (root)
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Subject: Re: [INFO WANTED] Memory required for 100 terminals?
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Date: 17 Oct 1994 12:22:44 GMT
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Reply-To: jered@mit.edu
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You want to run how many terminals off of one machine??!?!!?!
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(I think you'll need more than one machine.)
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You can get terminals that run X, Xstations, and such. Sorry, don't have
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the prices. You might want to consider just getting a bunch of fast 386es,
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they're rather cheap, and the processing power will be more than you'll
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ever get trying to run all of your terminals off aof one (or even a few)
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Pentiums.
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Good luck, for some reason schools are being sucked into the ugly world of
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Macintosh. :-)
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Jered
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From: rstory@crl.com (Robert Story)
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Crossposted-To: git.general,git.cc.general,atl.general
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Subject: Re: LOCAL: Meeting for Linux Enthusiasts in Atlanta
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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 21:57:17 -0500
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In article <newcombe.861.00634289@aa.csc.peachnet.edu>,
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newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu (Dan Newcombe) wrote:
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:In article <ann-26066.781969668@cs.cornell.edu> vernard@cc.gatech.edu
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(Vernard C. Martin) writes:
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:>You are all cordially invited to come and join the first meeting of the
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:>unofficial Georgia Tech Linux Enthusiast Organization on Wednesday October
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:>12th at 5pm at the Georgia Tech College of Computing in Room 201. All
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:>students, faculty, staff, and others are welcome to attend.
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:
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:(also a little more advanced notice would be nice :)
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: -Dan
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Ditto on the advanced notice... did it go well enought that you expect to
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have another meeting?
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--
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| Robert Story | PEI FAQ maintainer |#include <std/disclaimer.h>|
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| Atlanta, Georgia |--------------------| War Damn Eagle! ' 90 |
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| Go Braves ! | rstory@crl.com | rstory@mindspring.com |
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From: zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu (zachary brown)
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Subject: Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: 17 Oct 1994 07:44:20 -0400
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In article <37t12k$bvd@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au>,
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Warwick Allison <warwick@cs.uq.oz.au> wrote:
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>Marketers are looking for `mind share' these days. Linux gains quality
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>not quantity.
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HEAR HEAR!!
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-ZB-
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>--
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>Warwick
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>--
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> _-_|\ warwick@cs.uq.oz.au /
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> / * <-- Computer Science Department, / WIT SPACE TO LET
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> \_.-._/ University of Queensland, /
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> v Brisbane, Australia. /
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From: m.ballard@forprod.csiro.au (Mat Ballard)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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Subject: Re: Applets; was: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: 17 Oct 1994 03:24:55 GMT
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Grant Edwards says:
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>Mat Ballard (m.ballard@forprod.csiro.au) wrote:
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[stuff deleted]
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>What I don't understand is the wish to make Linux applications appeal
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>to the "average dos/win" user. When developing an application for
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>Linux, shouldn't the concern be to make it appeal to the Linux user?
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.
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>There seems to be an assumed goal of "converting" dos/win users to
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>Linux -- and I don't understand why this is a worthy goal. I'm a bit
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>of a relativist so I have my doubts that there is a "one true faith"
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>(especially regarding OS/language/editor preferences).
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i don't want an operating system that falls over once or twice a day,
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software that costs about $50 - $100 per year to upgrade every package,
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to fix the bugs in the current package, and that i have to buy extra
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bits (mail, etc) to make it work.
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what i want an operating environment that is:
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a. robust
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b. cheap
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c. complete
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d. rich in applications.
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linux scores well in the first two, and windoze + apps + bits & pieces
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scores well in the last two.
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however, if linux remains the province of the skilled and enthusiastic
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hobbyist, then it will _DIE_ and _DISSAPPEAR_, and we will all end up
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paying a yearly license fee to Mr Gates, just like what IBM, DEC
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et al did to their customers.
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this is not an outcome that i want to see.
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>Do we really care about "market share" like Bill Gates?
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hence, _YES_ !
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>Do we want Linux to be a mass-market product?
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again, _YES_ !
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the alternative is too awful to contemplate.
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Mat
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A$0.03
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From: czito@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Cory Zito)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
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Subject: WP Project --Info and Volunteers WANTED!!!
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Date: 16 Oct 1994 17:26:57 -0600
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After following the discussions on WYSIWYG Word Processing I have decided
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that its time to get together a development group to create such a beast.
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Right now I am looking for input on exactly what people are looking for
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in a WYSIWYG WP, People who want to help out with the project, and other
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things that people feel pertain to the project.
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In a couple of days I should have a web site and a project goals sheet up
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(after I get some input)
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Thanks,
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Cory Zito
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* Cory Zito * Email: CZITO@NYX10.CS.DU.EDU *
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* AA9GB * In protest of .sigs this sig is blank *
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* Saxophonist * *
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Date: 16 Oct 1994 20:45:00 +0100
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From: lmb@pointer.in-minden.de (Lars Marowsky-Bree)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Quoting goer@quads.uchicago.edu (Richard L. Goerwitz) ,
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topic 'Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?', group /comp/unix/questions, stardate 11.10.94:
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>>Let's be frank, what WYSIWYG word processor for other platforms has the
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>>full functionality of TeX?
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>Yeah. And while we're at it: What programming language has the full
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>functionality of assembler?
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You are missing the point:
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(La)TeX is portable. Assembler is not. If you want to compare text
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systems and programming languages, it would be fairer to compare
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Assembler to a pixel editor.
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## CrossPoint v3.02 ##
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From: Alberto Vignani <root@psie81>
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Subject: Re: Mystery chip...AMD
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Date: 17 Oct 1994 09:39:25 -0400
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Reply-To: root@psie81
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Having an AMD486DX2-66, I made some tests. By overclocking it at 40
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(=80) MHz and slowing the bus accesses accordingly, I was able to
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run DOS and (more important) Linux for more than a day.
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The heatsink was quite cool.
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Why only for one day? Because when I tried to run Windows my applications
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crashed (general protection faults). And until someone will port serious
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music apps under Linux I need WinDog (sigh!), so I played for a while with
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BIOS hardware settings, and eventually I switched back to 66MHz.
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I wonder why this happens: maybe because Windows uses a broader
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instruction set than gcc? Undocumented instructions? Continuous
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real/protected mode switches? Bad programming practices?
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Do you think that getting a better motherboard and/or faster memory
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will help?
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My AMD CPU is quite new, so it's probably no more able to run at
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80 MHz.
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Alberto
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===========================================================================
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Alberto Vignani
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WARNING - THE ABOVE ADDRESS (root@psie81) IS INVALID FOR REPLIES!!!
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Please reply to: a.vignani@crf.it
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or alberto.vignani@pmn.it
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From: blane@seanet.com (Brian Lane)
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Subject: Re: Which file to auto-run X programs in?
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Date: 16 Oct 1994 22:30:56 -0700
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Jay Ward (jayward@cs.pdx.edu) wrote:
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: Hi folks!
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: I'm trying to start up some programs (xclock, xbiff, etc.) when X
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: starts, but everything in my .xsession is being ignored. Does fvwm
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: use some other file in my home dir to load from? I've modified the
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: system.fvwmrc in /usr/X11/lib/X11, but that's just for menus, colors,
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: etc. right?
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Nope. Look farther into the .fvwmrc or system.fvwm -- there is a
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section titled Function "InitFunction" where you can add things to be run
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when fvwm starts up.
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--
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"A little rebellion now and then is a good thing." | finger blane@seanet.com
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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
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Subject: Re: More on word processors... svgalib?
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 12:44:30 GMT
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someone@s96120.u96.stevens-tech.edu (Guess who?) writes:
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>Just as a general question to all, how hard would it be to write a wysiwyg
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>word processor to use the svgalib instead of x? And can apps that use
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>svgalib be run remotely?
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I hate to sound like a recording- but using svgalib is *******NOT********
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a good choice. It is not a standard on multiple platforms. This means
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the software would be Linux specific and not portable to all the other
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Unixes (SCO, Solaris, HP/UX, etc). When we work hard on free software,
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I think it should be available to as many different people and platforms
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as possible.
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In addition, X is the "official" graphics environment for Unix. Writing
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things which do not run in X will greatly annoy those who want integration
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and flexibility. X apps can run on any Unix platform, via modem, hardwire,
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ethernet, Xterminals, remote workstations, consoles, distributed,
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centralized, multihost, etc.... This flexibility and power is not
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available in a platform & OS & hardware proprietary graphics environment.
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/--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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| Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
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| Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems | mark@taylor.infi.net |
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
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Subject: Re: Word (Text) processors for Linux?
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 12:49:34 GMT
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byron@gemini.cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) writes:
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>In article <1994Oct16.175048.11218@taylor.infi.net>,
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>Mark A. Davis <mark@taylor.infi.net> wrote:
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>-byron@gemini.cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) writes:
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>-
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>->However what's missing is the functionality along the lines of early
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>->WordPerfect or Word applications. Text based, formatting hidden from the
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>->user, prints to lots of printers, basic wordprocessing functionality of
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>->font size and type, text placement, highlights like bold, italics, underline
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>->etc., and basic table generation.
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>-Actually, the current version of WordPerfect for Unix does ship with
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>-a text based version (as well as the X based WYSIWYG). There is no compromise;
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>-choose which version you need, or run both. (Inotherwords, you don't have
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>-to go to an early version of WP to get that functionality). MS-"Word" is
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>-a different story.
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>I knew that Mark.
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Then why did you say "..the lines of early WordPerfect..."? I was just trying
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to prevent people from thinking that WordPerfect did not support text modes
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anymore. Trust me, if they did that, I would drop the product at work
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like a hot potato!
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> In fact I have a copy of SCO WordPerfect 5.1 sitting
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>on my desk waiting for kernel upgrade and the IBSC2 installation necessary
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>to install it.
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Please do install- I was doing the same thing. I put off upgrading the
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kernel for 6 months before a took the plunge. The insmod stuff is cool and
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really works! Too bad all drivers/kernel extensions aren't using insmod.
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>But as you pointed out in another post I'm cheap. After getting used to
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>free OS's, editors, compilers, and the like why should I pay for a
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>WordProcessor? Even if it's the same price as the DOS product (which I
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>personally don't use anyway.)
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Maybe "not everything in life is free"? :)
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| Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
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| Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems | mark@taylor.infi.net |
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From: mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis)
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Subject: Re: Frame Maker for Linux!
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 12:53:29 GMT
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shendrix@escape.widomaker.com (Shannon Hendrix) writes:
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>mark@taylor.infi.net (Mark A. Davis) writes:
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>>That is not a floating license. It is locked to a single machine. The
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>>retail price for the rest of us for such a version is $1000. Many sites,
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>>our included, refuse to buy non-floating licenses. And most people cannot
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>>get a heafty educational discount.
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>We are an OEM so we can get good prices. Other times I think we can
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>end up paying more than we should. Go figure.
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Well, buy software for ***US*** then!!
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>>> and at school we used to run the single on
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>>>multiple machines all the time. No idea why.
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>>That should not be possible. ANd in any case, it would be illegal to do
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>>so (according to the license wording).
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>#1) Don't bet on it being impossible. I know we found at least 5 major
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> packages that had a hard time enforcing user limits.
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Actually, it does not surprise me.
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>#2) Are you talking about those license that begin "By breaking this seal"?
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> Last time I heard, shrink-wrap licenses were only valid in about 3
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> states, illegal or void in the rest.
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I had no idea.
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>>>floating licenses are a ripoff. I know people with more than one
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>>>machine at home and it's stupid for them to not be able to log into
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>>>either of them and run a program.
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>>You have it backwards. A floating license will allow you to run it anywhere.
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>No, I didn't have it backwards. I mean that people who cannot afford a
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>floating license are forced to use only one of their machines and that
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>makes no sense. If I buy another Linux box I would have to purchase
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>another copy of /rdb and another copy of Motif to be legal. Sorry but I
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>think that stinks. I can understand if it's for a company that will have
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>many users but for me... if one machine is busy why should I have to wait?
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Indeed, I agree. But this is what a floating license allows. You can
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connect your two Linux machines via ethernet and have one running a
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license daemon. This way you can run the program on either.
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>>Your cheap, $1000 node-locked version will NOT allow you to run it on
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>>anything but a single machine or a single display on a single machine.
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>And that sucks. I want to see UNIX software at the pricing level I can
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>get for Windows software. Yesterday at CompUSA I could walk out with
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>7 major business packages for under $200.
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I know, it does suck. It sucks big time. It majorly sucks.
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| Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk,VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
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| Director/SysAdmin | Information Systems | mark@taylor.infi.net |
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