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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 93 11:13:13 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #297
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Linux-Activists Digest #297, Volume #6 Fri, 8 Oct 93 11:13:13 EDT
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Contents:
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HELP wanted -- Data General (Kuo-Chen Chang)
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Where can I obtain..... (Chris Pilkington)
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Re: Trouble with vgalib demo program (Dante)
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OI docs (was Re: XSysadmin) (Thomas Dunbar)
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Re: 3c509 and SLS/TAMU (Adam Clarke)
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Re: Terminal for X11 (Mark A. Davis)
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Re: Help: SIOCADDRT error running /etc/route in NET-2 (Ken Wilcox)
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Good serial communication package wanted. (Antoon Frehe)
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Re: using term (Tom Reynolds)
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Re: norton-like shell for unix? (Tom van Nes)
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Trouble with vgalib demo program (Shannon Hendrix)
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Pass Through Video in Linux, X? (Tom Reynolds)
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From: harry@atlas.socsci.umn.edu (Kuo-Chen Chang)
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Subject: HELP wanted -- Data General
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 12:19:31 GMT
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Hello netters,
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Not sure if this is the appropriate place for this question. We received
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a 9 track data tape. The tape was backuped from a Data General system.
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After two weeks' struggling, we got noting but funny binary code. Is there
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any way to retrive the data from tape? Many thanks!
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--Harry
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--
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**************************************************************************
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* Don't take life too seriously! You will never get out of it alive! *
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**************************************************************************
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From: chris@kilowatt.linet.org (Chris Pilkington)
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Subject: Where can I obtain.....
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Date: 5 Oct 93 23:40:26 GMT
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Where can I obtain a release of linux on disk?
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How much will it cost me?
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Regards,
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Chris Pilkington
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(Please reply via EMAIL)
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chris@kilowatt.linet.org
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The Kilowatt BBS - Deer Park, LI NY Email to: postmaster@kilowatt.linet.org
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(516) 586-4743 TurboPEP/V32bis, 667-6142 Hayes V.32bis, 595-2405 Boca V.32bis
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Kilowatt Computers assumes no responsibility for the content of the foregoing
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message - This is a FREE PUBLIC access UNIX bbs - FREE feeds available
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From: gt2584a@prism.gatech.EDU (Dante)
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Subject: Re: Trouble with vgalib demo program
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Date: 8 Oct 93 13:17:15 GMT
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pdrap@ctp.com (Patrick Draper) writes:
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>I can't use it unless I'm root. If I'm logged on as a user, then it
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>gives me an error saying it can't use the device or something.
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>I don't want to write graphics programs when I'm logged on as root, so
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>what should I do?
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>
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The documentation that comes with it says that vgatest
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must be setuid root. To do this, type (as root)
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'chmod 4755 vgatest'
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--
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"If I thought my answer were to one who might ever return to the world,
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this flame would shake no more; but since from this depth none have ever
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returned alive, I answer you without fear of infamy."
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from Dante's _The Inferno_, XXVII, ll. 61-66.
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From: tdunbar@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Thomas Dunbar)
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Subject: OI docs (was Re: XSysadmin)
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Date: 8 Oct 1993 13:07:34 GMT
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if you're using OI (or thinking about it), get the manuals. $60 total
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gets you a @250page user guide on uib and more importantly a >1000page
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OI programmer's guide that is very well written (from my novice
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point of view). professional, not the pr common with dos stuff;
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besides being a tech ref, includes nice little examples.
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where i work, we're downsizing; i plan on oi being my main
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development tool. btw, in the oi ref, page Notes-2, one can read:
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"OI runs on SunOS, AIX-RS/6000, HP-UX-HP9000/700, IRIX-SGI, Ultrix-DEC,
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Linux-i386; it has been ported to a few other platforms as well."
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that oi is free on linux is important to me; that it is not free on
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the other systems that my company uses is not a problem-they're used
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to buying software!
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From: adamc@loose.apana.org.au (Adam Clarke)
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Subject: Re: 3c509 and SLS/TAMU
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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 14:54:51 GMT
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cwhite@jarthur.claremont.edu (Stoney) writes:
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>Has Linux V99pl13 been implemented in an SLS type distribution, if
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>not, how hard is it to patch the kernel in say p12 so I can get 3c509
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>support. Thanks.
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> Chris
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I had a look at SLS on tsx-11.mit.edu site about two weeks ago
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it wasn't on 0.99pl13 then.. it might be now.
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However I have got my Linux box up and running with what was then the latest
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SLS distribution (1.03) with these helpful notes from various comp.os.linux
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contributors
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Here they are with bits edited out and with some annotations (enclosed
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in ** **):
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===========================================================================
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Some Hints for tcp/ip-Networking under Linux 0.99p12
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With many thanks to Gerhard Schneider who showed me the right way.
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** I didn't look at this much - thought I'd come back if neccessary**
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** It wasn't - my SLS seemed to have most things set. **
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** I did set up a few things on my own however, these were **
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** **
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** 1. /etc/hosts file **
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** 2. /etc/host file **
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** 3. /etc/rc.net - this needed one important change which wasn't **
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** documented, but judging from several posts did cause some **
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** trauma, (probably due to newbies like myself who have no idea). **
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** Getting back to the change - basically, you have to ensure that **
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** the if config command gets the right parameters, particularly **
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** the correct id name of your network driver (in this case eliii) **
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** For example my ifconfig line read something like this: **
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** **
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** ifconfig $IPDEV 127.0.0.1 up netmask 255.255.255.0 **
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** where IPDEV was set to eth0 and needed to be eliii **
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1) It is essential to use /lib/libc.so.4.4.2 (4.4.1 does not work!)
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In general you should use the Slackware Installation package -
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***but*** libc.4.4.2 can (up to now) only be extracted from the
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SLS installation.
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2) Your router has to be within your netmask area.
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for example:
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network netmask router netmask
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128.130.4.0 128.130.4.1 255.255.255.0 ok
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128.130.4.0 128.130.6.1 255.255.255.0 won't work
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3) You need a network entry in /etc/networks
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for example:
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mynet 128.130.4.0
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4) Example of rc.net or rc.inet1
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MYNAME=`/bin/hostname`
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# Attach the loopback device.
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/etc/ifconfig lo localhost
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/etc/route add localhost
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# Set up the Ethernet connection(s).
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/etc/ifconfig eth0 ${MYNAME} netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 128.130.4.255
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/etc/route add mynet
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/etc/route add default gw 128.130.4.1 1
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Rainer Kirsch
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In article <CDpxwD.G9v@acsu.buffalo.edu>,
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** heaps of stuff that wasn't essential was here **
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...for the 150 millionth time, yes. Read the Ethernet-HOWTO (see below)
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[...]
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3c509 --
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A new card for 3Com. It should be cheap and have
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excellent performance. The drawbacks are that it
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_requires_ very low interrupt latency, and it isn't
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rated for bus speeds greater than 8Mhz. The driver is
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written, working, and included in pl12. But it
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seems to triggers a Linux TCP bug, so it's not built
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as part of the default kernel.
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There is also an alpha version of a Linux 3c509
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diagnostic and EEPROM setup program, but for now
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users that don't like the defaults should use the
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MS-DOS EEPROM setup program.
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[...]
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...as for setting it up, well I have a few old posts here that describe
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how it is done, but as they are *almost* two weeks old, and hence out of
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date. Besides, there have been some bug fixes since the pl12 driver, and
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alpha pl13 has changed some of the ethernet device names, so if you can't
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figure out how to use the one in pl12, I'd wait for pl13
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Paul.
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--
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Paul Gortmaker c/o Microelectronics and Materials Technology Centre.
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Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, GPO Box 2476V, Melbourne 3001,
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Victoria, Australia. Ph (61) 3 660 2601. FAX (61) 3 662 1921.
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e-mail: paul@cain.mmtc.rmit.oz.au rcopg@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
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** This (below) basically summs up what I did - 90% working after this **
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I've just got the SLS 1.03 from tsx-11, the installation went fine, then I
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follow the instruction from previous posts.
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(1) uncomment the line of 3c509 in config.in.
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(2) add CARDS := $(CARDS) -DCONFIG_EL3 in /net/inet/CONFIG file
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**I added the D ^here in the above line**
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**At this point I took note of another article (from Donald Becker the **
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**guy who wrote the 3c509 driver) he said ... **
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The 3c509 driver is still in alpha test, and potential users are expected to
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know how to solve problems like this. You'll have to add '3c509.o' to the
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OBJS line in the Makefile.
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You should probably take the opportunity to upgrade to 0.99pl13, or at least
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fix a minor bug: in pl12/net/inet/3c509.c around line 512 change '0x3ff' to
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'0x7ff'.
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** I did this (i.e. made the changes to 0.99pl12) and then resumed the **
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** steps below **
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(3) make config, answer y in 3c509 option.
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(4) make dep
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(5) make zImage
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** It took a while, a problem I believe that is reduced in 0.99pl13 **
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** because the c rather than c++ compiler is used to compile the kernel, **
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** 0.99pl12 was the first to use c++ I think. **
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** I include this from a happy follower of Donald's advice because I like it **
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Minor bug be blowed. I just now made this change and converted my new
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$170 3c509 from a useless tongue-tied Walter Mitty to a productive
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silver-tongued Walter Cronkite. It had been locking up when
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transferring files bigger than the order of a kilobyte (had been
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meaning to ask about this), which this fixed. Thanks!
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--
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Vaughan Pratt
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(FTPables: boole.stanford.edu:/pub/ABSTRACTS.)
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*********************************************************************
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** Finally here's a few notes from Donald Becker **
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I still consider the 3c509 driver as being in alpha test, but it's included in
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the pl13 kernel. Just uncomment the 3c509 line in config.in, run 'make
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config' and compile as normal.
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The beta version of 3c509 driver won't be out for a while; I plan on doing a
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re-write to use predictive interrupts. It's likely the I'll get the EISA
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3c579 probe working and tested before then, so there might be interim release.
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BTW, net-2debugged has no relation to the 3c509 code.
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Finally, I'll be on vacation in Colorado for the coming week, so don't feel
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offended if I seem to ignore bug reports.
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--
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Donald Becker becker@super.org
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IDA Supercomputing Research Center
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17100 Science Drive, Bowie MD 20715 301-805-7482
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I hope this is helpful to someone, I know it's probably a bit jumbled, but
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I couldn't spend all day fixing it up :-) - hopefully it's useable.
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Adam Clarke e-mail at home: adamc@loose.apana.org.au
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From: mark@taylor.uucp (Mark A. Davis)
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Subject: Re: Terminal for X11
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Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1993 12:15:52 GMT
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mathew@CS.Arizona.EDU (Mathew B Beall) writes:
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>I just got linux with xwindows up and running, and I would like to
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>get a terminal so I can call other systems. I have a 14.4 modem, so It
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>would need to suppor that, and I would reallly like one with Zmodem....
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What are you asking or stating? Do you want information about Xterminals?
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/--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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| Mark A. Davis | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
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| Sys.Administrator| Computer Services | mark@taylor.wyvern.com .uucp |
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From: wilcox@kpw104 (Ken Wilcox)
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Subject: Re: Help: SIOCADDRT error running /etc/route in NET-2
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Date: 8 Oct 1993 14:40:56 GMT
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Hello all,
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I think that I can give some insight to this SIOCADDRT problem.
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The rc.inet1 adds the default route to be your own IP addr. This is the
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line that gives you the error. I am a sysadmin for a Sun network here and
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we don't add the the route for the local machine IP address. ie each machine
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does not add it's own address as a route. All of the clients of the server's
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add the server as a gateway. One route. All of the servers add the router
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for the network and all of the other server's.
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Correct me if I am wrong but route only gives you a route off your wire.
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that should be all that you need is the one route to get to the gateway.
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Enclosed is a little map of our network to make things make sense.
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(Campus Backbone) |
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=================RT========================================
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(Our backbone) | | | | | | |
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MS SS SS SS SS SS SS
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CW CW CW CW CW CW
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RT = Router
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MS = Master Server(NIS)
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SS = Slave Server (NIS) Gateway
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CW = Client Wires (multi- clients on one wire)
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The following are examples of our route config.
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Example of SS (above)
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Machine IP addr = 128.186.130.3, 128.186.131.65 (gateway for CW)---
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echo "Configuring static routes:" |
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route add default 128.186.130.1 1 (Router addr) |
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route add net 128.186.130.192 128.186.130.6 1 (Rest of servers) |
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route add net 128.186.130.128 128.186.130.4 2 |
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route add net 128.186.130.64 128.186.130.7 1 |
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route add net 128.186.131.192 128.186.130.5 1 |
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route add net 128.186.131.128 128.186.130.4 1 |
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Example of a client |
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Machine IP addr 128.186.131.78 |
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echo "Configuring static routes:" |
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route add default 128.186.131.65 1---------------------------------
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As you can see none ever add their own IP as a route.
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My machine works...(the one that I am posting from now.)
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Here is what the rc.net (I changed it) looks like:
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# /etc/rc.net
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# Linux networking startup script. Should be run by /etc/rc.local at
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# boot time. Configures the interfaces and starts the deamons.
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# It assumes hostname has been set.
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#
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#
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echo -n "[/etc/rc.net:] "
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HOSTS=/etc/hosts
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INETD=/etc/inetd
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NAMED=/etc/named
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PORTMAP=/etc/portmap
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NFSD=/etc/nfsd
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MOUNTD=/etc/mountd
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IPDEV=eth0
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HOSTNAME=`hostname`
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# This needs more testing and more diagnostics. */
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IPADDR=`grep "^[^#]*\b$HOSTNAME\b" $HOSTS | cut -f1`
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echo -n "[$HOSTNAME($IPADDR)]"
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IPADDR=128.118.193.58
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ROUTER=128.118.193.1
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NETWORK=128.118.193.0
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BROADCAST=128.118.193.255
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NETMASK=255.255.255.0
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ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up netmask 255.255.255.0
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route add 127.0.0.1 lo
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ifconfig eth0 $IPADDR netmask $NETMASK broadcast $BROADCAST
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route add $NETWORK
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route add default gw $ROUTER
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B
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if [ -x $PORTMAP ]; then
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echo -n "[ `basename $PORTMAP`]"
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$PORTMAP
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fi
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if [ -x $INETD ]; then
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echo -n "[ `basename $INETD`]"
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$INETD
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fi
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if [ -x $MOUNTD ]; then
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echo -n "[ `basename $MOUNTD`]"
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$MOUNTD
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fi
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echo ""
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I hope this helps some people that are having this problem
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-Ken Wilcox
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From: antoon@warga.et.tudelft.nl (Antoon Frehe)
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Subject: Good serial communication package wanted.
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 14:25:54 GMT
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Hi all,
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Is there a good serial communication package that understands
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[A-z]modem protocol. I'm used to TELIX under DOS to get stuff down
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via a phone line. I tried the installed KERMIT, but like under
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DOS, it is so terribly slow ...
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Thx Toon.
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--
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Antoon Frehe E-mail antoon@dutentb.et.tudelft.nl
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University of Technology Delft a.frehe@et.tudelft.nl
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Mekelweg 4, 2628 CD Delft
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The Netherlands, Earth phone 015 781796
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From: treynold@vierzk.bates.scarolina.edu (Tom Reynolds)
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Subject: Re: using term
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Date: 8 Oct 1993 14:35:18 GMT
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>I have been trying to use term between my linux box at home
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>and the udel net at school. here is where I am at.
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>first I make the modem connection with kermit.
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>then I logon the sun at udel
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>then I start term on the sun (i got the source compiled there
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>sourcce from sunsite about a week ago).
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>then I escape back to my system, try these
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The only suggestion that I can make is that term should not be run in
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the background on your linux box or the sun. when I shell to kermit
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to start term, i use
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!term <>/dev/cua2
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and haven't had any problems. Hope this helps!
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Thanx!
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Tom Reynolds
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treynold@hp800.lasalle.edu
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treynold@vierzk.bates.scarolina.edu
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From: vannes@onyx.alcatel.ch (Tom van Nes)
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Subject: Re: norton-like shell for unix?
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Reply-To: thomas.vannes@alcatel.ch
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 14:23:27 GMT
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In article <CEHtM3.I8G@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de>,
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Matthias Rabe <rabe@mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de> wrote:
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>In article <30.470@tec-box.zer.de>,
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>Hajo Simons <H.SIMONS@TEC-BOX.zer.de> wrote:
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>>Does anybody know about a shell that is comparable to the
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>>"Norton Commander" running under MS-DOS?
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>>I mean a shell that makes copying, moving and purging files
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>>more comfortable. ( No, it's _not_ for me but someone else ;-)
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>>If you know such one, could you post it to
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>>h.simons@tec-box.zer.de
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>>or
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>>100022,2450@compuserve.com
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>>or, could you point to a ftp-site and path that contains it?
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>>
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>>( please only email, because I've not subscribed to this newsgroup )
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>
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>Please reply to this group, too.
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>
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>Matthias
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>--
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>rabe@mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de Matthias Rabe
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>Universit"at Bielefeld Privat: Avenwedder Str. 494
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>U5-133 D 33335 G"utersloh
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>Tel.: (0521) 106-3871 Tel.: (05209) 6673
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take a look at gc3. it needs ncurses.
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couldn't compile cleanly yet.
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From: shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu (Shannon Hendrix)
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Subject: Trouble with vgalib demo program
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Date: 8 Oct 1993 10:58:24 -0400
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Reply-To: shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu (Shannon Hendrix)
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pdrap@ctp.com (Patrick Draper) writes:
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>Hi,
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>I've got a problem with the demo program that shows off the vgalib
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>graphics routines.
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>I can't use it unless I'm root. If I'm logged on as a user, then it
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>gives me an error saying it can't use the device or something.
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>I don't want to write graphics programs when I'm logged on as root, so
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>what should I do?
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When I asked this question several months ago, I got the answer that
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one really must be root to do svgalib/vgalib program development.
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What Linux needs is the idea of "priviledged" libraries. In other
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words, if a certain library call has "root" access then the kernel
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will allow it access to things like the VGA card ports. IBM
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mainframes have this kind of idea and it's pretty neat. The reason
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IBM did it was so programmers could access parts of the system without
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bothering the operators and yet they didn't have total access to the
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machine. It's a good compromise that doesn't hurt security that much.
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Of course, I doubt this is easy nor is Linux likely to get it... but
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it's still a neat idea.
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Surely there is a better way.. Someone just has to make it up.
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Use a program like asroot which will run a command as root for any
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user. Of course, the root user specifies exactly which commands can
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be run with asroot (some versions... even the parameters). I guess
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you'll just have to trust yourself... :) This program and variations
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can be found here and there... I cannot remember a specific place right
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now. Anyway, you just place an "asroot 4755 $(TARGET)" or something
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like that in your Makefile and you should be just fine.
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csh / shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu / Christopher Newport University
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From: treynold@vierzk.bates.scarolina.edu (Tom Reynolds)
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Subject: Pass Through Video in Linux, X?
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Date: 8 Oct 1993 14:58:55 GMT
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Hi all.
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I've recently had an oppurtunity to check out several boards that make use of
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VGA boards' "feature" or "pass through" connector. Such devices include TV
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receiver boards and Creative Labs' "Video Blaster".
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These devices are really very nice, but not enough to justify running DOS,
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much less Windoze, which is where they all run :)
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So, my question is this: has anyone considered/attempted/wriiten a driver
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for any of these devices? What I have in mind is TV in an X window :)
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I don't figure that anyone has done this, so I am willing to try and do it
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myself, but I have no experience writing drivers or X stuff (kind of leaves
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me out in the cold, I know... :)
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If anyone who has more experience in this kind of stuff than myself would like
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to come along for the ride, I'd be very appreciative!
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Finally, *YES*, I know this is a very silly endeavour indeed. Yes, I know
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that the socially redeeming value of TV in X is little to none. So, please,
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direct any flames to /dev/null. That's where I'll put them anyway :)
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--
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Thanx!
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Tom Reynolds
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treynold@hp800.lasalle.edu
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treynold@vierzk.bates.scarolina.edu
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