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From: Digestifier <Linux-Admin-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Admin@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 94 00:13:36 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Admin Digest #178
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Linux-Admin Digest #178, Volume #2 Wed, 12 Oct 94 00:13:36 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: TEAC IDE 4x CD ROM (Jasna M. Arezina-Wilson)
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Please let me know name of HD management SW available at sunsite? (N B Venkateswarlu)
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Re: Compressed FS for Linux? (N B Venkateswarlu)
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Re: Big IDE- fdisk 'different phys/log...' (Mark Lord)
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Re: HOstname (none) and What Slack Version (Daniel Tran)
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The tale of the changing password (Chee-Kiang Lim)
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Re: Please don't post security holess... (Alan Cox)
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Broken pipe,x,client error (Erich E. Singer)
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Re: looking for becker@super.org (Donald Becker)
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Re: Recommendation: Partitioning Linux (Hans de Vreught)
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Re: Security hole - has noone noticed so far? (Dirk J.)
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Re: The Linux Filesystem Standard. Where? (Daniel Quinlan)
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Re: Need DL/Time Limiting ideas - Linux BBS (Paul Christenson [N3EOP])
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Re: Please don't post security holess... (Orc)
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BUPS-HOWTO warning (Marek Michalkiewicz)
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Re: SCSI vs IDE (Donald Becker)
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[Q] 7168VMD (Opti MAD 16) Compatible? (Scott J. Ellentuch)
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smail smart_user problem (Srini Seetharam)
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Re: Need DL/Time Limiting ideas - Linux BBS (Tryst)
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Re: What's failed after Bogomips (Ron Helms)
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From: jarezina@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jasna M. Arezina-Wilson)
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Subject: Re: TEAC IDE 4x CD ROM
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Date: 11 Oct 1994 09:26:40 GMT
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In article <37d7hs$pku@mark.ucdavis.edu>, szhoffar@dale.ucdavis.edu
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(S.hoffar) wrote:
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> Ok, I wanted to buy the new Teac quad speed drive, but apparently
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> Linux isn't supporting it(Called SSC today). I was wondering if anyone
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> says otherwise, or if someone knows forsure that their is a driver being
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> worked on. I believe that the CD player usually get interfaced through a
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> sound card. I wanted to run linux off it....can someone help! :)
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I have one of these and I called Teac yesterday on the subject (try their
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tech support - it's good). It uses a Panasonic interface, but NOT the
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Panasonic drivers (aka Aztech/Mitsumi). They will have programming info
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available in a few weeks for people who want to write their own drivers
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(what impressed me was that he wasn't phazed by my request!)
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==========================================
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"...when friends rejoice both far and near
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How can I keep from singing?" - Enya
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From: venkat@scs.leeds.ac.uk (N B Venkateswarlu)
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Subject: Please let me know name of HD management SW available at sunsite?
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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 09:16:49 +0100 (BST)
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Hi,
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Some days back I have seen an article which mention about a package which
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is available at sunsite.unc.edu to increase/decrease the partition sizes with
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out distrubing the files. If you know, could you please forward its name to me.
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Thanks
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Venkat
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PS:- I am using slackware version of linux
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From: venkat@scs.leeds.ac.uk (N B Venkateswarlu)
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Subject: Re: Compressed FS for Linux?
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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 09:19:31 +0100 (BST)
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I remember some one mentioning "tcx-linux.tar.gz" to use for compressed
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executables.
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venkat
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From: mlord@bnr.ca (Mark Lord)
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Subject: Re: Big IDE- fdisk 'different phys/log...'
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Date: 11 Oct 1994 14:44:09 GMT
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In article <DELMAN.94Oct9193506@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu> delman@mipg.upenn.edu writes:
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< [*] Delman Lee writes:
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<
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< ] Will try and fix it in the atdisk2 code....
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<
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<The 1.1.52-diffs in mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu:pub/delman should fix the
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<problem. It fakes the bios geometry from the real physical geometry by
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<halving the cylinders (and doubling the heads) until cyl<=1024.
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Ugh! This will cause trouble.
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The correct solution for linux 1.1.x is to simply define the drive
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as having 32 (or 64) heads in the BIOS CMOS setup. Then DOS, linux,
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and most other stuff will handle it just fine.
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--
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mlord@bnr.ca Mark Lord BNR Ottawa,Canada 613-763-7482
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From: dtran@emelnitz.ucla.edu (Daniel Tran)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: HOstname (none) and What Slack Version
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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 20:10:45 GMT
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In article <CxIu5o.48B@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> dc3i@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Diane L. Calleson) writes:
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>I don't seem to have a "network node hostname"
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>ie. if I enter the "uname -a " command I get
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> Linux (none) 1.0 #2 Sat Apr 2 03:15:37 CST 1994 i386
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>BTW , WHAT Version of Linux am I on? I don't seem to be able to
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>tell iff I am using the Slackware 2.0 or not.
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Version 1.0
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Latest is 1.1.52 or 53
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>So right now my "network node hostname is (none).
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>This is different from /etc/HOSTNAME which I have set to 'home.calleson.com'
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>and it is also in my /etc/hosts file.
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>Someone mentioned that there were two different versions of hostname/domainname
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>that are installed with Slackware 1.0 and Slackware 2.0...
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>Can someone who knows what is going on please expound on this?
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Really don't know much about the Slackware 2.0 distribution. I used 1.0 and
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1.20 dist. Based on your kernel version, i think you used slackware 1.0 dist.
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kit.
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Try this: /etc/hostname
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put in hostname.domainname (e.g: diane.cs.virginia.edu)
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In /etc/hosts
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local_ipaddress diane.cs.virginia.edu
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Daniel Tran - dtran@emelnitz.ucla.edu
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From: cheeky@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Chee-Kiang Lim)
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Subject: The tale of the changing password
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Date: 12 Oct 1994 00:29:27 GMT
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I have encountered this problem and I hope someone can point out a fix
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to me. I have a user foo on my machine. foo forgots his password, so I
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su and used "passwd foo" to change his password. That works fine for a
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few days but then foo's password becomes no longer valid for some weird
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reason. So I su again and change his password. The problem now is that
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foo's new password works, but the the root password no longer works.
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When I su with foo's new password, it works. Is there something I am
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doing wrong here ?
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Kernel: 1.1.18 (Slackware 2.0.0)
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PS: cc replies to me via mail too since traffic here is too much for me
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to read it everyday.
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cheeky
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Please don't post security holess...
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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 09:31:43 GMT
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In article <379m6a$6f9@dhp.com> panzer@dhp.com (Panzer Boy) writes:
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>naive. If you expect by not posting publically that there are holes in
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>systems, and expect that only "good" guys will get that information, then
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>you are also extremely naive. You could wait for the CERT advisory about
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>SMAIL, I'm sure one will be out in 4-6 weeks from now...
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As the admin of a machine that got broken into purely because CERT sat on
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the 8.6.8 sendmail bug and didn't tell the world I regard telling everyone
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as the important bit - then people can patch around it and it gets fixed
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quickly.
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Alan
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--
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..-----------,,----------------------------,,----------------------------,,
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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``----------'`----------------------------'`----------------------------''
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From: gwues@seas.gwu.edu (Erich E. Singer)
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Subject: Broken pipe,x,client error
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Date: 11 Oct 1994 22:14:30 GMT
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help :
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my video card is ATI Mach64, monitor is Gateway 2000,
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crystal scan. Since there is no batabase for my card
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from modeDB.txt, I just chose vgawonder as my shipset,
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and set vgawonder's clock as my clock. resolution
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I chose 1024x768, 800x600,640x480.
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After I run stratx(I use XF86_SVGA as my server),
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machine can detect the clocks,mode,virtual resolution,
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but gives me info like this:
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XIO :fatal IO error(Broken pipe) on X server ":0.0"
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after 386 requests(390 known proceeed) with 0
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events remaning.
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waiting for X server to shutdown
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xinit:Unknown error(error 0):client error.
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.................................................
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did anybody have the same experience?
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pls let me know! many thanks!!!
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From: becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov (Donald Becker)
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Subject: Re: looking for becker@super.org
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Date: 6 Oct 1994 13:56:16 -0400
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In article <sej.781366036@interaccess>,
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Stephen Johnson <sej@psycfrnd.interaccess.com> wrote:
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>Hi,
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>I'm loking for becker@super.org that wrote the 3c509 drivers for Linux.
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>Mail sent to becker@super.org bounces...any ideas.
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Yes, do the usual thing: send lots of nasty mail to postmaster@super.org.
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[[ Every other place I've been, my account was kept for several years. In
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contrast super.org seems to want to forget that I ever existed. ]]
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--
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Donald Becker becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov
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USRA-CESDIS, Center of Excellence in Space Data and Information Sciences.
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Code 930.5, Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, MD. 20771
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301-286-0882 http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/people/becker/whoiam.html
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From: hdev@cp.tn.tudelft.nl (Hans de Vreught)
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Subject: Re: Recommendation: Partitioning Linux
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Reply-To: J.P.M.deVreught@CP.TN.TUDelft.NL (Hans de Vreught)
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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 08:56:09 GMT
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F.SCHMIDT@BIONIC.zer.de (Florian Schmidt) writes:
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>marshall giguere (giguere@dracma.mrnews) wrote:
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>> 1. Is it necessary to have both root and usr partition?
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>it certainly is not necessary to use seperate partitions for / and /usr.
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>but there are probably some good arguments for it (i don't know them (except
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>for a safer root-partition (fs-corruption is more probable on a heavy used
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>/usr-partition than on a root-partition, which is mainly used at startup)).
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In theory you should be able to mount /usr as readonly (see Linux' FSSTND),
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all writeable stuff of /usr should go in /var. You have 4 main candidates for
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separate partitions:
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* / except the ones mentioned below: this part is as small as possible since
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it is only used to boot and do FS repair (or something similar).
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* /usr should/could be readonly.
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* /var must be writable.
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* /home
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The benefit of several partitions is that:
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* readonly FSs don't corrupt (well, they shouldn't); but when you (sysadmin)
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need to add software to /usr, you must remount the FS as writeable and
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afterwards as readonly again.
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* a corrupt partition doesn't harm the other partitions.
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The main disadvantage is that you need some planning on the sizes of the
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partitions, it is laborous to do it afterwards (and you need lots of free
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space either on disk or on floppies...).
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--
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Hans de Vreught | John von Neumann:
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J.P.M.deVreught@CP.TN.TUDelft.NL | Young man, in mathematics
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Delft University of Technology | you don't understand things,
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The Netherlands | you just get used to them.
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Crossposted-To: comp.mail.smail
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From: biafra@acab.in-berlin.de (Dirk J.)
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Subject: Re: Security hole - has noone noticed so far?
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Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 01:26:26 GMT
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nick@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Nick Andrew) writes:
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>Which version of sendmail is the fix against? I tried it under sendmail 8.6.9
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>(the latest) and there was no problem.
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it's a "smail" bug.
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--
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biafra@acab.[isdn.cs.tu|in]-berlin.de (Dirk Jaeckel)
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GCS d--->---- H s+:- g+ !p au* a- w+ v(?) C++ UL++++>$ P+++ L++
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3+>++ E--- N++>+++ K- W---- M !V p--- Y+>++ t++@ 5-- !j G?
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tv++>! b++ D--- B? e+ u* h+(--) f+ r- !n y?
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From: quinlan@freya.yggdrasil.com (Daniel Quinlan)
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Subject: Re: The Linux Filesystem Standard. Where?
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Date: 04 Oct 1994 17:51:39 GMT
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Reply-To: quinlan@freya.yggdrasil.com
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Nick Kralevich <nickkral@po.EECS.Berkeley.EDU> writes:
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> Where can I get a copy of the Linux file system standard?
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/ftp@tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/docs/linux-standards/fsstnd.
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It is due to be updated.
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- Dan
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--
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Daniel Quinlan <quinlan@yggdrasil.com>
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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 17:05:35 EDT
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From: Paul Christenson [N3EOP] <PJC130@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Crossposted-To: alt.bbs.unixbbs,alt.bbs
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Subject: Re: Need DL/Time Limiting ideas - Linux BBS
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In article <371713$cd2@dolphin.phoenix.net>, rumgod@phoenix.net says:
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>
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>There is a package used by a lot of DOS BBS's called BinkleyTerm that
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>is also available in a UNIX flavor. It is used primarily as a mailer
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>that distinguishes between human and machine callers; it passes human
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>calls to the BBS and machine calls to the mail handling programs. One
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>of it's features is that it passes a parameter showing the baud rate
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>of the call, which can be picked up by any interested program for
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>determining DL time, etc.
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Don't bother with Binkley under *nix. There are other programs that
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offer all the functionality without the limitations of Binkley.
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From: orc@pell.com (Orc)
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Subject: Re: Please don't post security holess...
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Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 23:22:27 GMT
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In article <37cp6s$t3o@nntp1.u.washington.edu>,
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M. K. Shenk <mkshenk@u.washington.edu> wrote:
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>But it's not a dwelling space, and it can be very easily argued (of course,
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>antyhing can be easily argued by most folks) that infringements on a
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>virtual space, a computer system, should not be treated as seriously as
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>those on a dwelling space.
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It's not a "virtual space" -- the machine is sitting there,
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eating electricity and producing heat. If you want to visit it,
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it's simple courtesy to ask first, just as it's considered polite
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to ask someone if you can visit their house.
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david parsons \bi/ orc@pell.com
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\/
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From: ind43@sun1000.ci.pwr.wroc.pl (Marek Michalkiewicz)
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Subject: BUPS-HOWTO warning
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Date: 6 Oct 1994 18:38:15 GMT
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If you want to connect the APC Back-UPS to your Linux box, this might
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be of interest to you.
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There is a good BUPS-HOWTO which describes how to do this. But it has
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one "bug".
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The RTS serial port signal is used to shut down the UPS. The UPS will
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shut down only if it operates from its battery. The manual says that
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the shutdown signal must be high for at least 0.5s. But few milliseconds
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is enough, at least for my APC Back-UPS 600.
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Using RTS to shut down the UPS can be dangerous, because the RTS goes
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high when the serial device is opened. The backupsd program then turns
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RTS off, but it is on (high) for a moment. This kills the power when
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backupsd is first started and there is a power failure at this time.
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This can happen for example when the UPS is shut down, unattended,
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and the power comes back for a while.
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Either start backupsd before mounting any filesystems for read-write,
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or (better) use TX (pin 3) instead of RTS (pin 7) to shut down the
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UPS (pin numbers are for 9-pin plug). Use ioctl(fd, TCSBRKP, 10);
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to make TX high for one second, for example. Using TX should be safe.
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Maybe I will post the diffs if time permits...
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-- Marek Michalkiewicz
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ind43@ci3ux.ci.pwr.wroc.pl
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From: becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov (Donald Becker)
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Subject: Re: SCSI vs IDE
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Date: 6 Oct 1994 14:51:05 -0400
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In article <1994Oct05.142154.14798@taylor.infi.net>,
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Mark A. Davis <mark@taylor.infi.net> wrote:
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>iain@ece.concordia.ca (Iain J. Bryson) writes:
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>
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>>Hi. I am interested in hearing people advocating
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>>which is better, IDE or SCSI. One big advantage
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>>for SCSI would be more disks and CD-ROMS not
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>>taking up a slot... But it that worth the
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>>extra cost of a (good?) controller? How about
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>>speed?
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>
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>SCSI is faster, more flexible, allows more types of devices (just about
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>anything), does not slow down the CPU, works infinately better with
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>multitasking, has devices which really cost very little more than other
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>types, allows connection of up to seven devices per controller, is more
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>standardized, is universally accepted, ensures you will keep your
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>investment in SCSI devices, is much more portable, etc....
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I disagree with almost every one of those statements.
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o A VLB IDE controller can provide excellent data transfer performance with
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a much lower command overhead than SCSI.
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o SCSI controllors do slow down the CPU, some more than others. The 53c80
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on my sound card might look like an extreme example to you, but it's
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typical of the average SCSI controller. It's a CPU hog. Even bus-master
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controllers compete for bus bandwidth.
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o SCSI drives do cost considerably more. The typical IDE drive advertised
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in our local paper is a 540M at $239. The same drive hardware with a
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SCSI controller is $380. The "sweet spot" for SCSI drivers is a 1.0G
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(1.2G unformatted) drive at $599. A 1.0G IDE drive is $495. [[ I know
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you've seen better prices, I'm using the Washington Post as a uniform
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source of local prices. ]]
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o SCSI controllers cost a lot more than IDE controllers. A VLB super-I/O
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IDE controller is under $20. An ISA or VLB SCSI controller, which comes
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without the 2S/1P/1G, costs $100-$400.
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o IDE is far more standardized and common. I've read that over 90% of the
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drives sold are IDE. And there's no worry about which commands are
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supported, cabling or termination.
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o IDE drives do have a limited "disconnect" ability. Modern drives
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silently do read-ahead on the current track, and you can issue a
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"seek" (IDE command 0x7*, which immediately disconnects) to move the
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the heads to a new track. The disconnect issue doesn't apply to writes,
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which are accepted immediately and buffered while the heads move into
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position. It also doesn't affect the typical user with a single primary
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drive.
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o Setting up a >528M IDE drive is still much less complicated than SCSI.
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I personally think that the best hope for SCSI is the NCR '810 and AMD '974,
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which put can put SCSI on a PCI motherboard for about $30. That's only
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$80-$100 by the time it gets to you or me.
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--
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Donald Becker becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov
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USRA-CESDIS, Center of Excellence in Space Data and Information Sciences.
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Code 930.5, Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, MD. 20771
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301-286-0882 http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/people/becker/whoiam.html
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From: tuc@cnj.digex.net (Scott J. Ellentuch)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: [Q] 7168VMD (Opti MAD 16) Compatible?
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Date: 12 Oct 1994 01:19:27 GMT
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Hello,
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I just went out and bought a PC, and when I did it I took the
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HARDWARE-HOWTO with me. I grilled the salesman (Tim) about the options
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and I got what I thought to be the best config. One of the point I
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forgot about was the CD-Rom.
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I bought a Multi-media package, and it had the CDROM and Sound
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card. The CDRom is a Sony CD33, connected to a :
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OPTi MAD 16
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7168VMD Audio Card
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Has anyone gotten this before? Will it work? PLEASE send a message to
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me and I'll let others know if they want.
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Thanks, and if it works I'll be installing VERY soon.
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Scott
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From: srini@igt.com (Srini Seetharam)
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Subject: smail smart_user problem
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Date: 12 Oct 1994 00:07:29 GMT
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I am runing smail on slackware 1.2 with kernel 1.1.49
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smail version 3.1.28.1
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I have a linux machine connected with a modem to the Internet
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provider. This Linux machine is connected via ethernet to
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another machine which has all the user accounts.
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------------- ---------------
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modem | | ethernet | |
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------ Linux Machine --------- Users machine
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| | | |
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-------------- ---------------
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The linux machine has only 2 user accounts on it, while the Users
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machine has about 25 or so.
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The linux machine receives mail from the internet for
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joe@igt.com
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The user joe is valid on the users machine, but not on the Linux machine.
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I am trying to use the smart_user driver to forward all unknown addresses
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to the users machine.
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Any mail originating from the linux machine to the user : joe
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gets to his machine via the smart_user driver. However, any mail from the
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internet for joe@igt.com (my domain name), gets rejected by the
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linux machine with the error message : Unknown_User
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Please help !
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--
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srini@igt.com
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From: tryst@kaiwan.com (Tryst)
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Crossposted-To: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.unixbbs
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Subject: Re: Need DL/Time Limiting ideas - Linux BBS
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Date: 11 Oct 1994 17:32:35 -0700
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Matthew Francey (mdf@vigard.mef.org) wrote:
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: gcortevi@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Greg Corteville) writes:
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: >I'm currently in the process of setting up a BBS under Linux. All of the
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: >BBS software I've seen for Linux already is cryptic, difficult to use for
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: >callers used to MS-DOS boards, and not very configurable.
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: basically, you need no "BBS Software" for a Linux machine. just setup
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: the users like yourself, turn on the modem and away you go.
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: well, er, there are a few other things (of course), but thats about it.
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: >modify it to eliminate shell escapes and other security hazards.
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: instead of worrying about the prospect of those irritating users
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: getting access to the shell, why not just up and *give* it to them
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: and concern yourself with other aspects of security.
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: there are benefits to this approach.
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: a) it is *much* easier.
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: b) the users will appreciate it (eventually ... there will be whiners)
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: c) you can concentrate instead on writing documentation and instruction
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: files for your users.
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: d) it throws the security problem into the area of general unix security,
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: and there are piles of books on this to educate you. *** THIS IS VITAL
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: EVEN IF YOU DECIDE TO RESTRICT SHELL ACCESS ***
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***
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Oh and dont forget to give passwords to gonzo and snake ;^)
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: e) system administration becomes identical to that on a standard unix
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: machine ... again, there are many books to help you here as well.
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: f) it is completely consistent with the flavour and operating style of a
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: UNIX machine. as the Borg say: resistance is futile.
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: virtually all commercial internet providers will give you a shell if
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: you ask. they are not terribly concerned about "security", beyond what
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: steps they have taken at a lower level (see (d), above).
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: Heck, the one I use even lets me (shock! dismay!) *compile code*.
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A few even allow one to run background processes...
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: >I'll use the gopher system (which is already set-up and merely needs to
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: >be called from the BBS) as a means to access this information. I need
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: >the BBS software that will provide message and file areas as well as
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: >E-mail. It would also be nice to have FIDO (internal or external,
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: >doesn't matter) support and Usenet support.
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: why re-invent the wheel?
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: a) use the "gopher" program directly for gopher
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: b) use a standard news reader for reading news
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: c) use a standard mail reader for reading mail
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: documentation exists for all these programs. and all of them are
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: actually easier to use and *much* more flexible than their MS-DOS
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: counterparts.
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: >login time
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: yes, this is a stickler for most Linux machines as they come out of the
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: box. however, it is very easy to write a C program to punt idle
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: users, and over-limit sessions, off the line. mine is 155 lines long.
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: you will probably need a disk-space quota thing as well ... but most Linux
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: machines come with such. you will have to learn how to enable it.
|
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If you got your linux system by downloading all the fiels piecemeal like
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I did, you will have to apply the quota patch.
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: > The system should be easy to
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: >use because a majority of my users will be used to MS-DOS type boards
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: >like Renegade and Tag.
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Most users I've talked to these days want all the benifits of a Unix shell,
|
|
and many will insist on TCP/IP, which, unfortunately is expensive.
|
|
UUCP is cost effective, but doesnt give telnet and ftp, which is what
|
|
they are all screaming for...
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[ Of course theres that TCP/IP emulator called TERM...]
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: there is *big* interest in things UNIX by alot of MS-DOS users out there.
|
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: i suspect your users will rise to the "challenge", except for the chronic
|
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: and terminal whiners (but you know who they are by now). for those, run
|
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: the old MSDOS BBS program inside a DOSemu session. they deserve it. :)
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: >UUCP. [detroit area]
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: there is probably a "detroit.general" newsgroup (or something similar).
|
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: just post a message there asking for a UUCP link ... it's a start.
|
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: UUCP links are fairly easy to negotiate. for mine, I asked a guy "Can I
|
|
: have a UUCP feed?" and he said "Ok".
|
|
I just wish my UUCP provider would actually start sending the news feeds
|
|
to my site like it's supposed too..
|
|
: >I have a lot of questions and if
|
|
you've read up to the end of this : >message I appreciate it already.
|
|
|
|
: well, considering my tone, you probably don't appreciate it. ["miserable
|
|
I apreciate it though :)
|
|
: running-dog Linux elitist scum!" you are probably muttering :-] alot of the
|
|
: above looks like I am sneering at *you* in particular, but thats not the
|
|
: case. i am laughing at the idea of a "BBS Program" for Linux, and am somewhat
|
|
: concerned at the prospect of an MSDOS front end (and all that it implies)
|
|
: on a Linux machine. for Linux offers you and your users a real escape from
|
|
: the basic limitations of the MS-DOS remote-access model.
|
|
|
|
I, like you, am of the same mind...I intend to right a simple shell
|
|
script for 'beginners' who are not used to linux; but they can switch to
|
|
a standard shell like csh bash or zsh anytime they wish, and I suspect
|
|
once they are used to the environment they will want to :^)
|
|
|
|
*****************************************************************************
|
|
Tryst, who taps his foot waitning for his news feeds...
|
|
E-mail: root@vsr.[waiting for this too].com
|
|
root@uucp.netcom.com
|
|
voice : (310) 696-4907
|
|
dial-up:(310) 698-0841, (310) 698-3403, more to come
|
|
*****************************************************************************
|
|
Current Operating hours: Never, until I start getting my d*mned feeds :^)
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|
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|
|
------------------------------
|
|
|
|
From: rhelms@firewall.isscad.com (Ron Helms)
|
|
Subject: Re: What's failed after Bogomips
|
|
Date: 11 Oct 1994 14:16:19 GMT
|
|
|
|
The fail I got on the line with bogomips was 'delay calibration failed'.
|
|
Not sure what it meant, but it did not give me any problems.
|
|
|
|
RonHelms
|
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