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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #210
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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
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To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 93 00:13:08 EDT
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Linux-Activists Digest #210, Volume #6 Wed, 8 Sep 93 00:13:08 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: TCSH -- no pwd? (Michael Elkins)
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BUG found: slackware 'setup' (Stephen Ritter)
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WANTED : FTP site for complete Linux package/utilities (Nikos Moutzouris)
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[Q] Installing SLS from Ethernet (Greg Corteville)
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* Need Help on XFree Please !!! (slzw0@cc.usu.edu)
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Re: NeXTStep & Linux (Gold Silver Soup and Silk)
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Re: Bugs with .99pl12 (Peter Hofmann)
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DG62x5 chip set? FAX? DAT audio? (Hank Dietz)
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Problem Install SLS TSX-11 (fnrjh@aurora.alaska.edu)
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Re: BSD UNIX (J Fieber)
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***Q: How to add path? (slksp@cc.usu.edu)
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Re: Problems with cnews/SLS 0.99.pl9-1 - Pnews ??? (Bryan Halvorson)
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Re: UUCP on SLS 1.03 (Vince Skahan)
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Shutdown doesnt unmount (levinson@vax.sonoma.edu)
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Re: Will Linux run MSDOS applications (which use DMA/interrupts)? (Donald J. Becker)
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Re: [Q] Installing SLS from Ethernet (Donald J. Becker)
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From: elkins@aerospace.aero.org (Michael Elkins)
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Subject: Re: TCSH -- no pwd?
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Date: 7 Sep 1993 20:00:51 GMT
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In article <266chh$1br@agate.berkeley.edu>,
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Brion Moss <boss@soda.berkeley.edu> wrote:
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>Personally, I just have an alias in my .tcshrc that sets pwd as an alias
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>for `echo $cwd`. This not only solves the problem, but it's faster and
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>more efficient than having a separate binary to use.
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>(pwd isn't a builtin in csh or tcsh on any system I've been on, only in
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>sh or bash or whatever.)
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Except that if you use amd, or any type of links to nfs mounts, that won't
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tell you where you *really* are.
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Something like this will work, tho:
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#include <sys/param.h>
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main () {
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char cwd[MAXPATHLEN];
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printf ("%s\n", getwd(cwd));
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}
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me
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michael elkins elkins@aero.org
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computer science and technology subdivision
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aerospace corporation tel: +1 310-336-8040
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el segundo, ca fax: +1 310-336-4402
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From: ritter@sdsc.edu (Stephen Ritter)
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Subject: BUG found: slackware 'setup'
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 21:48:33 GMT
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To whom it may concern (ie the slackware guys):
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I recently attempted to install slackware (1.02) via nfs using the
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setup script. There seems to be a problem, in the script the
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following variables are set (the names may not be exact, I don't have
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the script infront of me...):
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Refer to the NFS section of the stup script...
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SOURCE_MOUNTED= -source_mounted #non-null
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REMOTE_PATH=/disks/fatt1/slackware #received from user
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REMOTE_IPADDR= XXX.XX.XXX.XXX #ip no. of the NFS server
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DISTRIBUTION_SOURCE- /INSTALL/mount$REMOTE_PATH
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SERIES= -sets AEFX
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ok, with these set, the script mounts the dir with slackware source on
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/INSTALL/mount:
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mount -t ext2 $REMOTE_IPADDR:$REMOTE_PATH /INSTALL/mount
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Now pkgtool is sent with the folloing flag:
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-source_dir $DISTRIBUTION_SOURCE
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Expanding DISTRIBUTION_SOURCE gives the following:
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/INSTALL/mount/disks/fatt1/slackware
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ERROR!!
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should be:
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-source_dir /INSTALL/mount
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Sorry for the "wordiness" of this, I am very tired.
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--Steve
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ritter@helmholtz.sdsc.edu
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Subject: WANTED : FTP site for complete Linux package/utilities
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From: nmou@leon.ncrps.ariadne-t.gr (Nikos Moutzouris)
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Date: 7 Sep 93 19:37:07 +0200
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Is there an ftp site from where I can get the complete linux soft including
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any applications/utilities ???
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: gcortevi@nyx.cs.du.edu (Greg Corteville)
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Subject: [Q] Installing SLS from Ethernet
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 93 22:19:14 GMT
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I noticed onb the installation disk that there is an option to install
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Linux from ethernet. How would one go about doing this? Can it be
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installed directly from the FTP site? I don't want to use up the disks if
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I don't have to. Help would be appreciated. Email preferred.
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gcortevi@klingon.lbs.msu.edu
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From: slzw0@cc.usu.edu
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Subject: * Need Help on XFree Please !!!
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Date: 7 Sep 93 16:31:04 MDT
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Hi, I am a novice on Linux stuff. I have succeeded installing Linux except
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X-window. I have very hard time on doing this. I would greatly appreciate
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if someone give me an advice on installing X. (I read FAQ but it was not
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really helpful for my job) My system configuartion is
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as follows.
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VLB 486DX2-66 with ET-4000/w32 Video card (Hercules Dynamite)
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140M space HD space for Linux.
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My question is,
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1. I have diskettes for SLS x1-x10. Someone said use XFree86.
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What is the difference in between?
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2. I've downloaded XFree86 on my workstaion however, it was too big to
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store in 1.44M floppy diskettes. I've no idea how I can bring those
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files to my PC.
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Thank you again.
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Park
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From: jmadison@etsun.tech.iupui.edu (Gold Silver Soup and Silk)
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Subject: Re: NeXTStep & Linux
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 22:16:11 GMT
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In article <930904.224103.9T2.rusnews.w165w@mulvey.com> rich@mulvey.com (Rich Mulvey) writes:
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>rlion@access.digex.net (crazy lion) writes:
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>
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>> martini@tournesol.hep.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Ullrich Martini) writes:
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>>
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>>>hi,
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>>>bye, ullrich
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>>
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>> nextssetp is, in my opinion the best OS there is. but it's hardware
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>> requirements are just too great for intel. you'd have to have a fully
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>> loaded comupter to even get one program running. so i doubt that anyoe
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>>
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> "Too great for Intel?" Ummmm... you may be interested in knowing that
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>it has been available on Intel processors for several months now... and
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like he said though, earler, you'd have to have a fully loaded computer to
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even get one program running. (my setup wouldn't work, & it's kinda pretty
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loaded.)
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>
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>- Rich
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>
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>--
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>Rich Mulvey Amateur Radio: N2VDS 787 Elmwood Terrace
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>rich@mulvey.com Rochester, NY 14620
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-jonM
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--
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jmadison@etsun.tech.iupui.edu <><
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DJ AllStar of tha foolz(?)...comin' soon (we hope!)
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get Linux OS, it's dope! it's free! it's UNIX!
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From: peterh@jake.prz.tu-berlin.de (Peter Hofmann)
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Subject: Re: Bugs with .99pl12
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 23:13:03 GMT
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>I downloaded ext2fsprogs 0.3. When I run e2fsck on my hard disk, it checks,
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>then it marks it clean. If I try to run e2fsck again, it says that the
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>filesystem is clean and exits. I know this is normal conduct for e2fsck. The
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>problem is that when I reboot (using shutdown -r now) the first mount says it
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>is mounting an unchecked file system, which leads me to believe that shutdown
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>marked it dirty??? then when my e2fsck runs (which I placed in /etc/rc) it
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>goes thru the whole kit and kaboodle and checks the filesystem. Anyone know
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>why this is and how to correct it? It should only actually check the system if
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>it is not marked clean.
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>
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Try out bootutils-0.1 (to be found on every good ftp server) and follow the
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instructions. The umount included there will cleanly unmount all the mounted
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filesystems (even the root filesystem).
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Peter
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Peter Hofmann e-mail: peterh@prz.tu-berlin.de
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Technical University Berlin
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Einsteinufer 17 Tel. ++49-(0)30-314-21701
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W-1000 Berlin 10, Germany
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From: hankd@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Hank Dietz)
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Subject: DG62x5 chip set? FAX? DAT audio?
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 23:21:59 GMT
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I got my first Linux machine 2 years ago; it had 386SX-16, 2M (well,
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1.6M), 42M disk and was a serious pain to get working under Linux.
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Consequently, I got my new one fully loaded. It is:
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Sager 8200, 486DX2-66, 16M, 340M disk, 10" active color
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I also got the docking station for it:
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2 VESA slots, 2 ISA slots, SCSI 1 controller
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Here are my questions:
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1. Linux and X run really well, but not in color. The VGA chip
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set is not recognized by X. It is a DG62x5. Does anybody out
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there have a Linux X driver for this chip set?
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2. I have ordered a PCMCIA 14.4K FAX/modem. Is there any Linux
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software that understands sending/receiving FAXes? What I
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would want to send is mostly stuff done with groff.
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3. I want to get some additional goodies for the docking station:
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a) A good CD ROM drive
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b) A good audio I/O board
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c) A good backup tape drive
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What does Linux understand? I have an audio DAT recorder; can
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any of the audio boards talk in 16-bit 48K (or 44.1K) digital
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audio data streams? Also, if I got a DAT drive for backup,
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could that also write audio DATs? Is there any Linux software
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for any of this stuff...?
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Thanks.
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-hankd
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From: fnrjh@aurora.alaska.edu
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Subject: Problem Install SLS TSX-11
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 00:39:59 GMT
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Subject: problems after installing SLS from TSX-11.MIT.EDU
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Hi. I have previously installed Linux at home and decided to install the
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newest version that is at TSX-11. I erased my old disks a2 throught X10.
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FTP in:
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1) I looked for RAWWRITE before erasing A1.3 It is not where I remembered it
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I thought it was in the SLS directory.
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After grabbing everything and xcopy to the disk:
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2) I split my hda into part 1 dos, part 2 swap (19635blocks) mkswap reports
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20Meg swap bult. But when I swapon /dev/hda2 it reported only 16 meg
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swap added.
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3) Started to install. Error message on disk A4 was
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"gzip123...TAR could not link usr/bin/zcmp to usr/bin/zdiff file exist."
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3) After install went well I logged on as root and typed menu. I get most
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of the menu but the part that is the bottom right bar with quit to exit
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is garbage. I have downloaded everything again and reinstalled, even
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wiped the partition first. Still get all of the same messages.
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4) When I startx it tells me that "fixed font can not be found" and the
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server dies.
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I have a 386DX-40 with only 4 Meg ram, two IDE drives. One Quantum 114 Meg
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and a segate 170 Meg drive. I know X is not supposto run like this but the
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memory is to be on order soon. The rest is critical for me to use this box
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as a demo for my class work and my boss is intersted in UNIX to.
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I hope to get this going soon.
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Please send Email to FNRJH@Aurora.Alaska.edu
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Robert J. Hale III
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Elmer E. Rasmuson Library
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University of Alaska Fairbanks
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Fairbanks Alaska 99775
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FNRJH@Aurora.Alaska.edu
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(907) 474-5292 Work
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(907) 474-6841 Fax
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.386bsd.misc
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From: jfieber@sophia.smith.edu (J Fieber)
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Subject: Re: BSD UNIX
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 00:47:49 GMT
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In article (sorry, lost the original citation)
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>>> Hey now! B^). I'll pit the 3000's 0.9 I/O performance against any
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>>> 386 or 486 based system any day!
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Well heck, my pokey old un-accelerated Amiga 2000 got better disk
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i/o performance than this spiffy new 486 I'm using now. I'm
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using the same drives with an (expensive!) Adaptec 1542C. Pretty
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darn depressing I must say. The price of EISA controllers
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amounts to highway robbery too.
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-john
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=== jfieber@sophia.smith.edu ================================================
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======================================= Come up and be a kite! --K. Bush ===
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From: slksp@cc.usu.edu
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Subject: ***Q: How to add path?
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Date: 7 Sep 93 19:11:23 MDT
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Hi,
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I want to add a path to my system, but I cannot find the right file
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to do this. My question is: is there a file just like autoexec.bat
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in dos that alow us to setup paths?
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Thanks a lot!
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Chet
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From: bryan@edgar.mn.org (Bryan Halvorson)
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Subject: Re: Problems with cnews/SLS 0.99.pl9-1 - Pnews ???
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Reply-To: bryan@edgar.mn.org
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Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1993 18:48:41 GMT
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In article <25tueq$1bq@panix.com>, Chris Taylor <cht@panix.com> wrote:
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>
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> When I use Pnews to post to an article for which I feel I have properly
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> configured the system, I get 'relaynews: set[ug]id failed (bad file number)'.
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> /usr/local/lib/news/bin/relay/relaynews is rwsrwsr-x, owner and group
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> news (which I have added to /etc/passwd and /etc/group ).
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I went thru the same thing last week when I was helping a friend with
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his linux system. More than likely the permissions on setnewsids is
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incorrect. Here's what it looks like on my system.
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-rwsrwxr-x 1 root other 52147 Apr 15 1992 /usr/lib/news/setnewsids
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--
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Bryan Halvorson bryan@edgar.mn.org
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N0BUU bryan@n0buu.tcman.ampr.org
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From: vince@victrola.wa.com (Vince Skahan)
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Subject: Re: UUCP on SLS 1.03
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Date: 7 Sep 1993 18:03:17 -0700
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wlim@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Willie Lim) writes:
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>[I think this is a Linux rather than a UUCP question. :-)]
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part of it is...
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>I have been "playing" the UUCP capability of LInux SLS 1.03 for the
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>past few days (and nights. :-)) I used /dev/modem which is softlinked
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>to /dev/cua1 (COM 2) with uugetty -r set for /dev/modem in
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>/etc/inittab. Also I used Any in the relevent entries in the
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>/usr/lib/uucp/Systems file (just to test things out).
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>Here are several observations:
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>1) When SLS 1.03 is first installed, the system talks to the modem
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> (but no dialing out) frequently and then after a while (like an hour
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> or more), it leaves the modem alone.
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That's not the case with SLS1.02 and uucp didn't change in SLS 1.03.
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I'd suggest you turn uugetty off in inittab until you get outgoing calling
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working, then add uugetty back. If it breaks then, you have a uugetty
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problem.
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>2) Having done the necessary modifications to Devices, Dialers, and
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> Systems in the /usr/lib/uucp directory and the paths and config
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> files in the smail directory (don't remember the exact path
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> anymore), I could test my UUCP link using the command:
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> /usr/lib/uucico [-f] -x2 -s<hostname>
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> Without the -x2 (or higher e.g. x3, x4) flag, Linux would not
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> initiate a call otherwise uucico dials out with and without the -f
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> or the -r flags set.
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Used to be that you needed -x4 for it to work but I think that's fixed
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now. I'm not certain what the minimum is with Taylor1.04 or if there
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is one at all.
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>3) I use crontab to schedule dialouts with the -f and -x2 flag on (I
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> want to make sure that the system dials out). Everything works
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> fine for a day or so and then
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> /usr/lib/uucico -f -r1 -x2 -s<hostname>
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> would do nothing except create the LCK..* and TMP...... files
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> in /usr/spool/uucp. The audit.local and other logs in the
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> /usr/spool/uucp don't seem to get updated when this happens (i.e.,
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> when uucico doesn't initiate a dialout). Usually the logs will say
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> something or explain why the dialout didn't occur and a couple of
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> modem lights will flicker for a few seconds but in this case nothing.
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Well if you don't show us the logs, we can't figure it out........
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>Questions:
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>a) How tightly "hardcoded" is the uucp neighbor "quick" to SLS 1.03?
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it isn't. Unless it's your real UUCP neighbor, it shouldn't be in there
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at all. Sigh...I can't understand how people keep making the mistake of
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taking an example site-specific file and thinking it's valid for all sites
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everywhere...
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>b) How fast does the C.* and D.* files get created in the
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> /usr/spool/uucp/hostname directory? I notice that sometimes those
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> files (email addressed to hostname) get created as soon as I "send"
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> them out of the mail program (Emacs rmail mode) but then there are times
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> I notice that the files don't get created that quickly.
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takes a few seconds with sendmail or smail, I dunno with emacs.
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>c) I haven't left my system alone long enough (e.g. for > 24 hours)
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> to see if the UUCP link will "wake" up again. Is the uucico's behavior
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> described in 3 above expected?
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no, it indicates you have something messed up on your end.
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turn uugetty off and get uucp working first.
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--
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---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.wa.com -------------
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It'll be great fun for the whole family...with a firearms orientation
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- incredible advertisement for local outdoors show.
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Subject: Shutdown doesnt unmount
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From: levinson@vax.sonoma.edu
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Date: 7 Sep 93 20:26:59 -0800
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Okay. I got BOOTUTILS and installed the new mount, umount, rdev and fsck. I
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noticed that if I did a shutdown now, and when the system goes to single user,
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I type umount -a, then reboot all is well (VFS doesnt say it is mounting
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unchecked filesystem and e2fsck skips its check)
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However, any other shutdown command does not unmount root. Is there a newer
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shutdown command? I tried creating the file /etc/brc and placed
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umount -a
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in it, but still no luck. It looks like shutdown does not run umount.
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Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Eric
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--
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Eric Levinson
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rcisnet2!root@moon.nbn.com | Home computer (UUCP)
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levinson@vax.sonoma.edu | Vax
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I can also be reached on my BBS system, Color Galaxy Milky Way (415) 883-0696
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
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From: becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker)
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Subject: Re: Will Linux run MSDOS applications (which use DMA/interrupts)?
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 18:45:58 GMT
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In article <2682in$kph@tamsun.tamu.edu> sam3103@tamsun.tamu.edu (Stan A. McClellan) writes:
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>We have several MSDOS applications which use add-on DSP/A-to-D boards and
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>we don't want to lose this functionality if we convert to the Linux
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>environment.
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>
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>(1) How does Linux deal with MSDOS applications? Is it reliable?
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> Can it support real-time applications such as A/D and D/A?
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There is a PC virtual machine for running MS-DOS and applications
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("dosemu"), but using DMA and interrupts is Right Out. While it's
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possible to translate an IRQ into a user-level signal, that won't be
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fast enough for the kind of application you are talking about. And
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there are major difficulties dealing with general DMA in the
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user-level address space of 'dosemu'.
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>(2) Will any special drivers need to be written/installed for Linux to
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> run MSDOS applications which do low-level I/O? If so, I assume that
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> software like this is application-specific. Is this correct?
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You can write a Linux device driver, and then hack that into the PC
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virtual machine, but once you start you'll probably end up rewriting
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your entire application in Linux.
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>(3) If the DOS emulator currently won't handle these situations, is there
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> work underway to address this, or am I hoping for too much from Linux?
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It's too much to expect to be able to run an arbitrary MS-DOS device
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driver under Linux, or any real OS. You have to deal with virtual to
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physical page mappings, physically contiguous pages, DMA boundaries
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and limits (64K, 128K, 16M), wiring down pages, and a slew of other
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issues just to make DMA work. Some device drivers also depend upon
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software timing loops, being able to turn off interrupts, and
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accurate, unimpeded access to the system timer chip. None of these
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are compatible with the scheduling fairness and protection expected of
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a general purpose operating system.
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[[ I should only need a hot mitt rather than the full Nomex suit to
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handle the pedantic replies and "but it works with {OS/2,NT,MSWindoze}". ]]
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--
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Donald Becker becker@super.org
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IDA Supercomputing Research Center
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17100 Science Drive, Bowie MD 20715 301-805-7482
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker)
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Subject: Re: [Q] Installing SLS from Ethernet
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 02:30:48 GMT
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In article <1993Sep7.221914.25852@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> gcortevi@nyx.cs.du.edu (Greg Corteville) writes:
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>
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>I noticed onb the installation disk that there is an option to install
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>Linux from ethernet. How would one go about doing this? Can it be
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>installed directly from the FTP site? I don't want to use up the disks if
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>I don't have to. Help would be appreciated. Email preferred.
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The SLS NFS installation is very easy to use, you just answer the questions
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and go get a cup of your favorite beverage. If you answered the
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questions correctly, you'll have a Linux machine when you come back.
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I have a shell script that patches up locale-specific things like the
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timezone file and machine name. This script keeps getting smaller, so
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Peter must be doing something right.
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You must find a site that permits anonymous NFS mounts -- anonymous
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FTP isn't enough. There are a number of them around, but they don't
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advertise it.
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On a related note, there has been some discussion lately about having
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the boot system on multiple disks. This is a bad idea -- it was a big
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win when Peter managed to get the SLS boot system on a single disk.
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It's far easier to hand someone a single floppy and a few IP
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addresses, and say "here is everything you need" than to loan them a
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few boxes and ask them to waste an hour swapping disks.
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# Linux system patchup script, this is SRC-specific so don't copy it blindly.
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ROOTDIR=/root
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INSTALL=/mnt/install
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HOSTNAME=linux
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DOMAIN=super.org
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echo "Adding the swap partition to your /etc/fstab file."
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#echo "/dev/hda3 swap swap defaults" >> $ROOTDIR/etc/fstab
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cp /mnt/install/fstab $ROOTDIR/etc/fstab
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mkdir $ROOTDIR/u01 $ROOTDIR/u02 $ROOTDIR/u03 $ROOTDIR/u04
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mkdir $ROOTDIR/usr/projects $ROOTDIR/usr/public
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if [ -r /mnt/install/addhosts ]; then
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cat /mnt/install/addhosts >> $ROOTDIR/etc/hosts
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fi
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if [ -r /mnt/install/passwds ]; then
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cat /mnt/install/passwds >> $ROOTDIR/etc/passwds
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fi
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if [ -r /mnt/install/xmodmap ]; then
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cp /mnt/install/xmodmap $ROOTDIR/usr/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap
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fi
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echo "SLS Linux 0.99.12, installed at SRC." > $ROOTDIR/etc/issue
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echo
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echo "Setting the timezone to US Eastern."
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echo "ln -sf US/Eastern $ROOTDIR/usr/lib/zoneinfo/localtime"
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ln -sf US/Eastern $ROOTDIR/usr/lib/zoneinfo/localtime
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ln $ROOTDIR/usr/bin/ls $ROOTDIR/bin/ls
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--
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Donald Becker becker@super.org
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IDA Supercomputing Research Center
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17100 Science Drive, Bowie MD 20715 301-805-7482
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