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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #520
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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 08:13:04 EST
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Linux-Development Digest #520, Volume #1 Sat, 5 Mar 94 08:13:04 EST
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Contents:
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Help: inode information. (Manish Gupta)
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Using COFF-binaries on linux (Aurel Balmosan)
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Re: Help! GCC errors [STUPID IDIOTS ON COMP.OS.LINUX.* GROUPS] (I am being repressed.)
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Re: Amiga FileSystem, Anyone? (Alan Cox)
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emacs-19.22 on linux UPDATE (Neal Becker)
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Re: Multi-Serial Cards? (Bobby Tadlock)
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Re: Why not put cluster diffs in nominal kernel before 1.0? (Rob Janssen)
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Re: Question... Assembler. (Rob Janssen)
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Re: Help: inode information. (Manish Gupta)
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TCP: What is LAST_ACK? (Paul Smith)
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Re: Help: inode information. (Patrick Schaaf)
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Re: REQUEST: support for Canon BJC-600 printer (Steve DuChene)
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Re: HPIII/IVsi Network Printer Drivers (Michael Griffith)
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Screensaver w/ power save ? (Hendrik G. Seliger)
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Re: Specialix driver (Tim Smith)
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Re: Where's ioperm() and in/outb()? (Donald J. Becker)
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Re: effectiveness of cache ram? (Donald J. Becker)
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Re: Help! GCC errors (Bill Hogan)
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Another reorg? (was re: Help! GCC errors) (Raul Deluth Miller)
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From: manish@ms.uky.edu (Manish Gupta)
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Subject: Help: inode information.
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Date: 3 Mar 1994 13:49:01 -0500
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Hello netters,
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Given a open file descriptor or file pointer how one can obtain the indoe
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level information from it?
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Thanks a lot.
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- manish
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--
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I call them as I see them. If I can't see them, I make them up.
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-- Biff Barf
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From: aurel@dali.uni-paderborn.de (Aurel Balmosan)
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Subject: Using COFF-binaries on linux
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Date: 4 Mar 1994 13:42:25 GMT
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Hello,
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I want to run coff-binaries (from sco-unix) on my linux-system but the only answer
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from linux is segmention fault. I have seen (on tsx-11.mit.edu in the file ls-lR)
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that there are some ibcs2 and coff library which I could not get from any linux-ftp-
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server.
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Where can I get this libraries and tools ?
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--
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Alexandru-Aurel Balmosan aurel@uni-paderborn.de
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University of Paderborn (Germany)
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Crossposted-To: alt.pud,alt.stupidity
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From: crfisher@nyx10.cs.du.edu (I am being repressed.)
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Subject: Re: Help! GCC errors [STUPID IDIOTS ON COMP.OS.LINUX.* GROUPS]
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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 16:19:48 GMT
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In article <2kvr8o$4iv@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
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Mitchum DSouza <m.dsouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
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>Dean Junk:
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> Do one of the following:
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>1) Read the library release notes TO THE LETTER - EVERY SINGLE SENTENCE.
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>2) Read the GCC-FAQ before asking GCC related queries.
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>
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>Mitch
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WHAT IS THE POINT IN REPLYING IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER?
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Although it may seem that every newsgroup in the c.o.l.*
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series actually have the word flame in them, they do not. I am so
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sick of the petty replies and responses I see here all the time.
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If you can not help someone then do not bother to even reply. You
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do no one any good when you do. All you do is waste resources
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and show that you don't even know hot to flame properly.
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Bah.
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--
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Unless you are born in finland you can't be finnish.
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From: iiitac@swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Amiga FileSystem, Anyone?
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Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 17:48:49 GMT
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The amiga floppy is a single sector MFM encoded 80 track double sided disk.
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It's beyond the standard PC hardware to drive
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[And before Amiga people go no no its 11 sectors/track read the hardware
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manual - its 11 _software_ sectors per physical sector]
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Alan
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From: neal@ctd.comsat.com (Neal Becker)
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Subject: emacs-19.22 on linux UPDATE
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Date: 04 Mar 1994 14:59:42 GMT
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If you are building emacs-19.22 with a recent version of the c library
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on linux, you'll need this patch:
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1. The internals of FILE have changed.
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2. I also removed -D_BSD_SOURCE. I don't see any difference. If
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anyone knows why this should be here please correct me.
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gdiff -c linux.h-dist linux.h
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*** linux.h-dist Mon Nov 29 10:40:59 1993
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--- linux.h Fri Mar 4 09:56:27 1994
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*** 155,161 ****
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/* This is needed for disknew.c:update_frame() */
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! #define PENDING_OUTPUT_COUNT(FILE) ((FILE)->_pptr - (FILE)->_pbase)
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/* Linux has crt0.o in a non-standard place */
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#define START_FILES pre-crt0.o /usr/lib/crt0.o
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--- 155,161 ----
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/* This is needed for disknew.c:update_frame() */
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! #define PENDING_OUTPUT_COUNT(FILE) ((FILE)->_IO_write_ptr - (FILE)->_IO_write_base)
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/* Linux has crt0.o in a non-standard place */
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#define START_FILES pre-crt0.o /usr/lib/crt0.o
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***************
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*** 217,228 ****
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#ifdef TERM
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#define LIBS_MACHINE -lclient
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! #define C_SWITCH_SYSTEM -D_BSD_SOURCE -I/usr/src/term
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#else
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/* alane@wozzle.linet.org says that -lipc is not a separate library,
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since libc-4.4.1. So -lipc was deleted. */
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#define LIBS_MACHINE
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! #define C_SWITCH_SYSTEM -D_BSD_SOURCE
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#endif
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#define HAVE_SYSVIPC
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--- 217,228 ----
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#ifdef TERM
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#define LIBS_MACHINE -lclient
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! #define C_SWITCH_SYSTEM -I/usr/src/term
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#else
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/* alane@wozzle.linet.org says that -lipc is not a separate library,
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since libc-4.4.1. So -lipc was deleted. */
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#define LIBS_MACHINE
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! #define C_SWITCH_SYSTEM
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#endif
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#define HAVE_SYSVIPC
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From: btadlock@metronet.com (Bobby Tadlock)
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Subject: Re: Multi-Serial Cards?
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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 16:06:09 GMT
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The STB 4-COM works very well (of course Im a software eng. for STB) I use
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a 4-COM in my linux box at home and have no problems.
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Just call 214-234-8750 for STB (Richardison, Texas).
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--
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**************************************************
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* From: Bob Tadlock btadlock@metronet.com *
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**************************************************
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From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen)
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Subject: Re: Why not put cluster diffs in nominal kernel before 1.0?
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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 22:51:57 GMT
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Reply-To: pe1chl@rabo.nl
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In <CM3L7v.IA1@info.bris.ac.uk> FernyM@pc64.maths.bris.ac.uk (Ferny) writes:
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>Can anyone tell me if the cluster diffs (08a) will patch 15j or will i
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>have to wait for a new version of cluster?
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There is a new version available at the usual location... the last time
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I looked it was for pl15h
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Rob
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--
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=========================================================================
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| Rob Janssen | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org |
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| e-mail: pe1chl@rabo.nl | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8UTR.#UTR.NLD.EU |
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From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen)
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Subject: Re: Question... Assembler.
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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 22:58:49 GMT
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Reply-To: pe1chl@rabo.nl
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In <2l6e5u$pbj@s.ms.uky.edu> manish@ms.uky.edu (Manish Gupta) writes:
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> When I generate assembly code for C programs, I see compiler (gcc)
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> generating a code in which many variables, function names are referred
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> through different notations. Sometime reference is made by prefixing
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> the actual name with single underscore and sometimes by even
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> three underscores '_'.
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> e.g.
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> call ___main
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> call _printf
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> I wish to know what does the number of '_' signify? What is the maximum
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> number of '_' we could put in front of a variable, and why do we
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> need to do that?
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The _ is not a special operator or prefix, it is just part of the
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symbol. So ___main and _main are just two different symbols.
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It is customary to put a single _ in front of the name of a C function,
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so that no clashes can occur with symbols generated by the compiler
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itself. Multiple underscores are used in the C library to prevent
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clashes between library functions and user functions, but of course
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this can be only partly successful as the user can write function
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names like that as well...
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Rob
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--
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=========================================================================
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| Rob Janssen | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org |
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| e-mail: pe1chl@rabo.nl | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8UTR.#UTR.NLD.EU |
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From: manish@ms.uky.edu (Manish Gupta)
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Subject: Re: Help: inode information.
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Date: 3 Mar 1994 15:50:42 -0500
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manish@ms.uky.edu (Manish Gupta) writes:
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>
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> Hello netters,
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> Given a open file descriptor or file pointer how one can obtain the indoe
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> level information from it?
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> Thanks a lot.
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> - manish
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>--
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IN LINUX.
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- manish
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--
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I call them as I see them. If I can't see them, I make them up.
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-- Biff Barf
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From: psmith@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (Paul Smith)
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Subject: TCP: What is LAST_ACK?
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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 16:42:02 GMT
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I'm having a lot of trouble with TCP connections that stall in a LAST_ACK
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state. This happens mostly from gopher connections, but sometimes from ftp,
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too. This will hang up the gopher/ftp client until the server or
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the client times out. If the client times out first then some data is lost,
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but if the client hangs on until Linux times out then the file is
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received intact.
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So, what does LAST_ACK mean? Why would the Linux side stall in this state?
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And, what can I do about it?
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Here's my setup:
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Slackware 1.1.2 - pl15<something>
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(But, I think this happend under 1.1.1 - pl14, too)
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3c509 card using TP port.
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16 Mb RAM.
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486SX/20
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Thanks,
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-Paul
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From: bof@wg.saar.de (Patrick Schaaf)
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Subject: Re: Help: inode information.
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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 13:58:02 GMT
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manish@ms.uky.edu (Manish Gupta) writes:
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> Given a open file descriptor or file pointer how one can obtain the indoe
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> level information from it?
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Have a look at fs/open.c - given an 'int fd', you do:
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struct file *file;
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struct inode *inode;
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if (fd < NR_OPEN && (file=current->filp[fd]) && (inode=file->f_inode)) {
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/* do something */
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}
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If you were interested in how to do this in a user level program with
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an ordinary open file, check the manpage for fstat(2), and look up
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what this newsgroup is for.
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Patrick
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From: s0017210@cc.ysu.edu (Steve DuChene)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Re: REQUEST: support for Canon BJC-600 printer
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Date: 4 Mar 1994 00:56:59 GMT
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The Cybard (dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu) wrote:
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: I don't know if this has to be written into the kernel or what, but could
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: someone please create a mechanism to support color printing on the Canon
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: BJC-600 color printer? It is a very popular printer right now, so I
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: believe that this will be benefit a lot of people. If such support for
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: this printer exists, could someone please point it out to me? Thanks.
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: David Thomas Dudek / v098pwxs@ubvms.bitnet \ __ _ The Cybard
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: State University / dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu \ / `-' ) ,,,
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: of New York / "If music be the food of love, \ | | ()|||||||[:::}
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: @ Buffalo / play on!" - Wm. Shakespeare \ `__.-._) '''
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David:
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I really don't thick that printer support falls under the
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kernel! All you need is the appropriate printer filter for the kind
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of file you are printing and you should be all set. I would suggest
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looking at comp.os.linux.announce for printer filters or the ghostscript
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package for postscript interpreting.
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--
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_____________________________________________________________________
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Steve DuChene s0017210@cc.ysu.edu or sduchene@cis.ysu.edu
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Computer Science Youngstown State University
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A pre-determined amount of chaos is a natural occurance.
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From: grif@corsa.ucr.edu (Michael Griffith)
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Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.printers
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Subject: Re: HPIII/IVsi Network Printer Drivers
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Date: 4 Mar 1994 19:45:04 GMT
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In article <1994Mar04.031029.10483@ksmith.com>,
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Keith Smith <keith@ksmith.com> wrote:
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>Anyone know where one could locate a Linux driver for an HPIII/IVsi
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>network printer (TCP/IP)?
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>Does HP publish the source for this thing? I currently am running the
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>machine thru an SCO spooler, but would like to print direct from the
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>linux box.
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It is very easy to write it your own spooler. Just connect to TCP
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port 9100 on the printer. I'll post my version after I have cleaned
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up the code.
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--
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Michael A. Griffith
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grif@cs.ucr.edu
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From: hank@Blimp.automat.uni-essen.de (Hendrik G. Seliger)
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Subject: Screensaver w/ power save ?
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Date: 4 Mar 1994 10:32:02 GMT
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Reply-To: hank@automat.uni-essen.de
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Hi!
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I would like to change the kernel screen saver in a way that it puts my
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nice new digitally controlled monitor into suspension, which should shut
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it off after a certain time. So far the screen blanker just blanks the
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screen. Does someone know how one could change this so that the monitor
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gets a SUSPEND signal (or optionally, OFF and ON) ? I don't have any
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documentation on how to do this, but would be willing to make patches to
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the kernel.
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Thanks for any help,
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Hank
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--
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Hendrik G. Seliger Universitaet Essen
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hank@automat.uni-essen.de Schuetzenbahn 70
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Tel.: +49-201-183-2898 45117 Essen, Germany
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"Handling interrupts is simple." (G. Pajari)
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"Interrupts are an unpleasant fact of life." (A. Tanenbaum)
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From: tzs@u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
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Subject: Re: Specialix driver
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Date: 4 Mar 1994 20:51:25 GMT
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Johannes Stille <johannes@titan.westfalen.de> wrote:
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>BTW, I think your definition of "derive" is too narrow. IMHO there are
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>other ways of "deriving" besides actually copying source code. It e.g.
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>can be enough if you only take over major principles or ideas (as with
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>Apple and the idea of the trash can on your desktop). (This doesn't mean
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>that I like the general current legal status of software.)
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>
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This could depend on what country you are in. In the United States, you
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can use the ideas and principles of another work. Section 102(b) of our
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copyright law says:
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(b) In no case does copyright protection for an original work of
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authorship extend to any idea, procedure, process, system, method
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of operation, concept, principle, or discovery, regardless of the
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form in which it is described, explained, illustrated, or embodied
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in such work.
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--Tim Smith
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From: becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker)
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Subject: Re: Where's ioperm() and in/outb()?
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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 19:57:49 GMT
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In article <robertl.762675123@amsg>, Robert Lipe <robertl@arnet.com> wrote:
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>In the Kernel Hacker's Guide (I think it was 0.5), it's explained
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>that a user app can hit I/O latches by calling ioperm() (which
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>presumably cracks the iopl on those ports open so that the app can
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>get to them w/o faulting). I've nm'ed and ar'ed everything I can
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>find that looks like a library and zgrep'ed throught he man pages.
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>What library should this be in? On some other UNIX'es, I can issue
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>a sysi86() and do this, and on most others, there is an undocumented
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>way of hitting I/O.
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There are manual pages on ioperm() and iopl().
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I've written a few ethercard setup/diagnostic programs. They use (depending
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on the card's interface) ioperm(), iopl() and mmap() in the shared memory.
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ftp.super.org:/pub/linux/setup/*
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>And on inb and outb, I see that the macros (from hell) in <linux/os.h>
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>are trying to do, but I still get unresolved externals on (I think)
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>___inp and ___outp (not sure). I tried the same manner to locate
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>those functions, and again drew blanks.
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#include <asm/io.h>
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And you *must* compile with optimization on for the inline functions to be
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expanded.
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--
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Donald Becker becker@super.org
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IDA Supercomputing Research Center
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17100 Science Drive, Bowie MD 20715 301-805-7482
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From: becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker)
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Subject: Re: effectiveness of cache ram?
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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 20:21:57 GMT
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In article <1994Mar2.014033.15596@amdahl.com>,
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Henry A Worth <haw30@eng.amdahl.com> wrote:
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>In article <2kojdv$ndb@zeus.achilles.org>, ajh@zeus.achilles.org (Andrew Hutton) writes:
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>|> : There are many many things that are better than having more cache. I've
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>|> : got a 486/33 board with 64k cache -- I used to have 486/33 256k and I
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>|> : never missed it at all.....
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>|>
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>|> Try putting more than 8 megs on the board... For 32 megs you need 256K.
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>
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>Only a few, generally older, motherboards of questionable design require
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>adding more cache to expand memory.
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There are a significant number of motherboards that have this limitation.
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To do otherwise requires using more tag bits (another SRAM) or cheating on
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the address bits (feign shock that someone would do this).
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>In a recent issue of "Microtimes" (a silicon valley area tabloid and
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>computer shopping mag), there was an article questioning the value
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>of >64K cache. They quoted a report from some independent testing
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>lab that found 60% of the motherboards they tested ran faster
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>with external cache disabled (unfortunetly, there were no details
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>of how they conducted the tests).
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Was this written by the marketing arm of the people that designed a
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cacheless motherboard?
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I've had two occasion to run non-trivial tests with the external cache turned
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off. They were both using new machines that turned out to have bad cache
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chips. It took 6-7 minutes for a i486DX33 to compile 0.97 (yes!) with a
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256K secondary cache. The identical test took about 15 minutes with the
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secondary cache disabled. The same experiment with a i486DX2-66 and a later
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kernel yielded similar results.
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Donald Becker becker@super.org
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IDA Supercomputing Research Center
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17100 Science Drive, Bowie MD 20715 301-805-7482
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From: bhogan@crl.com (Bill Hogan)
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Subject: Re: Help! GCC errors
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Date: 4 Mar 1994 21:22:22 -0800
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Christopher L Seawood (mgrcls@manager) wrote:
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: Dean Junk (us292121@bulldog.mmm.com) wrote:
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: : I am having the following problem compiling xmix:
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: : /usr/lib/libgcc.sa(__libc.o): Definition of symbol __NEEDS_SHRLIB_libc_4 (multiply defined)
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: : /usr/lib/libc.sa(__libc.o): Definition of symbol __NEEDS_SHRLIB_libc_4 (multiply defined)
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: : make: *** [xmix] Error 1
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: :
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: : Do you have any ideas? I have everything else working great but this!
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: Take this how you wish.... Read the release notes. It specifically says
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: to 'rm -f /usr/lib/libgcc.*'
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: --
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Notice how the word "specifically" operates in that last sentence?
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Ever wonder why there aren't more women around here?
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BH
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--
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Bill Hogan
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{bhogan@crl.com}
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From: rockwell@nova.umd.edu (Raul Deluth Miller)
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Subject: Another reorg? (was re: Help! GCC errors)
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Date: 5 Mar 1994 07:17:46 -0500
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Dean Junk:
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. : Take this as you wish ... piss off! I can't beleive the
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. : attitude of some of the people on this newsgroup.
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Dave Gardner:
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. Dean, you're not alone.
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.
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. I started using Linux about a year ago with SLS, before I and
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. many others knew just how broken it was. Many of us had lots of
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. problems and asked ...
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Robert Moser:
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. I started out with SLS also... also had problems... Now I'm a
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. slackware user
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All this is great -- especially if you all turn around and help new
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users. But there's another problem here of how do we let the
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developers focus on problems they need to fix. In other words, this
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traffic shouldn't be here in comp.os.linux.development.
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People are putting a lot of effort into solving this, over on
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news.groups. If you like, you could drop by over there.
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Raul D. Miller
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<rockwell@nova.umd.edu>
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