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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #537
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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 23:13:05 EST
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Linux-Development Digest #537, Volume #1 Thu, 10 Mar 94 23:13:05 EST
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Contents:
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Re: Problem with NET-2 and Winsock Gopher/HTTP clients? (Paul Smith)
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Re: Problem with NET-2 and Winsock Gopher/HTTP clients? (Rob Newberry)
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Re: gcc internal compiler error - SIGSE [2~ [2SEGV (Chris Anderson)
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Re: Amiga FileSystem, Anyone? (Matthias Urlichs)
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Re: Amiga FileSystem, Anyone? (Jay Denebeim P025)
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Re: gcc internal compiler error - SIGSE[2~[2SEGV (Mark Lord)
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Adaptec hanging up if last dvice in chain is powered off (Volkmar Eich)
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Re: Can't link with -static, must use -g (H.J. Lu)
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Assembly code debugger (Christopher Andrew Smith)
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Re: Specialix Driver Round 2 (From specialix) (David Wright)
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Re: Loaded fonts discarded after X vt switch... (Andrew M. Kuchling)
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From: psmith@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (Paul Smith)
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Subject: Re: Problem with NET-2 and Winsock Gopher/HTTP clients?
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Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 13:38:34 GMT
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kirby@scarlett.libs.uga.edu (Steven Kirby) writes:
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>Here's the scenario. I'm running the Yggdrasil release of Linux (kernel p14),
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>and another site running Slackware (kernel version unknown, I forgot to ask)
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>has reported the same problem. We can serve Gopher/HTTP to X clients, Mac
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>clients, and OS/2 clients without problems. Same goes for curses clients.
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>However, when we attempt to serve Gopher/HTTP to any app that uses the
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>Winsock DLL (e.g., BCGopher, WinMosaic, Cello), some really odd stuff happens.
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>On occasion, we can move graphical images to the client without problems.
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>Usually, though, the transfer of data is not completed. The client shows that
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>the file has been moved, but nothing happens. No decompression, no pretty
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>pictures, nothing. It appears that there is some sort of timing problem with
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>Winsock clients who try to connect to a GN server running under Linux.
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I've had the *exact* same problem, partial file transfers then timeouts,
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but not just with WinSock clients... my experience includes the DOS packet
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drivers (v11c) using PCGopher from boombox.micro.umn.edu. I've also used
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NetManage's WinSock and Gopher client, and Mosaic with Trumpet WinSock and
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had the same trouble. These two clients can hit on servers all over the net,
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except mine... I'm running GN under Linux (both pl14 and pl15). I've tried
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gopherd, too, and had the same problem. Other Unix clients (from a Sun
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workstation) can hit just fine, but they appear to pause a long time during
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transfers. FTP clients sometimes have the same problem, so it's not just a
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problem with gopher/gn.
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I've also tried a one-line change recommended by Donald Becker to fix the
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3c509 driver, but that didn't help.
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Please, someone fix this quick or I'll have to setup our gopher server
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on a Sun... yukkkk!
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Thanks,
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-Paul
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From: rob-n@clark.net (Rob Newberry)
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Subject: Re: Problem with NET-2 and Winsock Gopher/HTTP clients?
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Date: 10 Mar 1994 17:26:21 GMT
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Steven Kirby (kirby@scarlett.libs.uga.edu) wrote:
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: Here's the scenario. I'm running the Yggdrasil release of Linux (kernel p14),
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: and another site running Slackware (kernel version unknown, I forgot to ask)
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: has reported the same problem. We can serve Gopher/HTTP to X clients, Mac
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: clients, and OS/2 clients without problems. Same goes for curses clients.
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: However, when we attempt to serve Gopher/HTTP to any app that uses the
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: Winsock DLL (e.g., BCGopher, WinMosaic, Cello), some really odd stuff happens.
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: On occasion, we can move graphical images to the client without problems.
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: Usually, though, the transfer of data is not completed. The client shows that
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: the file has been moved, but nothing happens. No decompression, no pretty
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: pictures, nothing. It appears that there is some sort of timing problem with
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: Winsock clients who try to connect to a GN server running under Linux.
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I have similar problems in a somewhat different setup. In my scenario,
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the Linux machine is located BETWEEN the PC and the net. It has an
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ethernet connection to the LAN and a SLIP connection to the Internet. Now,
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the Macs and the Linux machine can read news off the NNTP server fine. But
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none of the Windows machine can. If those machines use Trumpet or WinVN or
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QVT's news client, the session just hangs. They can't get the new group
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list, they can't scan for new articles. As for the transfer of data
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not completing, I have experienced this problem in a particular setup. I
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run Chameleon from NetManage (incidentally, I ran 3.11N and now 4.0, but it
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still does not work) on one machine. That machine cannot FTP anything
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from anywhere. On the other hand, two machines which use the Microsoft
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TCP stack can FTP successfully, but cannot read news.
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: My first reaction was to blame the Winsock client, but all of the ones I've
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: tested work just fine with other systems. Plus, the other guy ran a sniffer
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: trace that seemed to indicate to him that the communication was timing out
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: from the Linux box. (I dunno how to read the trace report, but if anybody
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: wants to see it, let me know and I'll be happy to mail a copy.) I'm pretty
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: sure the problem ain't with GN, since I can use WinMosaic to connect to other
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: GN servers without trouble.
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I wish there was a way to trace my own stuff. I can't get tcpdump to
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work.
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: My conclusion is that we've probably uncovered a fairly minor bug in NET-2.
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: Does this seem reasonable, or have I missed more than my usual quota of
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: something? If it helps, my box is a 386-40 (we built it ourself) with 8 megs
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: of RAM and a Longshine LCS-8634 (NE2000 clone) ethernet board. The other guy
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: is also using an NE2000 clone, I think, so there is also a remote chance
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: that the problem is with the NE2000 driver and clone boards. I dunno.
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My machine also uses an NE2000 clone. It seems to work with most things, and
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it worked before, when I used an AT as a router, instead of Linux. There
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was a post in *.help about Linux's IP forwarding code being messed up in
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net2e-beta4. The guy said I might need a patch, but he didn't say where
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to get it. (By the way, if whoever made that post is reading this, thanks
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for nothing. Why bother saying, "You need this. And I know who has it.
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Bye." when you could say, "Here it is" or even "Email me and I'll get it
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to you".)
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: Any advice/information will be most appreciated, especially if it will help me
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: figure out who to bother first with this problem.
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: Thanks!
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: --Steve
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: Steven Kirby University of Georgia kirby@scarlett.libs.uga.edu
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From: christop@access2.digex.net (Chris Anderson)
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Subject: Re: gcc internal compiler error - SIGSE [2~ [2SEGV
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Date: 10 Mar 1994 10:46:32 -0500
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In article <1994Mar9.202548.29860@rosevax.rosemount.com>,
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Grant Edwards <grante@aquarius.rosemount.com> wrote:
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>Cord Johannmeyer (cord@kalliope.atlas.de) wrote:
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>: Christopher Andrew Smith (z1g192@rick.cs.ubc.ca) wrote:
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>: : I'm getting an error that I've never seen before when compiling a certain
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>: : appliction. What happens is that after I've compiled all the object files
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>: : for the application and start linking the application with the library
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>: : I made, gcc reports an internal error which I've never encountered before.
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>
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>: [deleted]
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>
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>: : gcc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 11
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>: : make: *** [app] Error 1
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>
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>: : Has anyone else ever had this problem? I'd like to know if it is a common
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>: : problem.
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>
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I get a SEGFAULT on my SVR4 machine with gcc and the system as. What happens is
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that the assembler does a mmap() on the output that gcc generates and somehow
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overruns the file size. I think that the problem is with my disk controller -
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a local bus utron 601 IDE (I think) - because if I swap in a normal 16 bit
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controller, the problem doesn't occur. This also hasn't happened since I
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removed my second hard drive (and put Linux on it :) ).
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I haven't tried the gcc -pipe option, but that may help.
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While this was happening I swapped the /usr/ccs/as with the following shell
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script:
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--
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#!/bin/ksh
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sleep 1
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done=0
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while [ $done = "0" ] ; do
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/usr/bin/truss /usr/ccs/bin/as.real $* > /tmp/as.out 2>&1
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as_stat="$( /usr/bin/tail -1 /tmp/as.out )"
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as_pk=$( /sbin/expr "$as_stat" : ".**** \(process killed\) ***")
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if [ "$as_pk" = "process killed" ] ; then
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echo "Trying again: $as_stat"
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done=0
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else
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done=1
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fi
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done
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--
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This worked most of the time when as was SEGFAULTing, but sometimes the system
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would lock up and I would have to pull the plug (AHHHHH!!!).
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Good Luck,
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Chris
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From: urlichs@smurf.noris.de (Matthias Urlichs)
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Subject: Re: Amiga FileSystem, Anyone?
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Date: 10 Mar 1994 17:00:21 +0100
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In comp.os.linux.development, article <2lmaod$1vv@ilink1.i-link.com>,
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leeh@i-link.com (Lee Heins) writes:
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> In article <2lkuan$o6t@smurf.noris.de>,
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> Matthias Urlichs <urlichs@smurf.noris.de> wrote:
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> >
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> >Actually, they replaced this with variable bit density zones. (It's
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> >compatible.)
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> Huh? Who replaced this with variable bit density zones? Not on the Mac or
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> CD-ROM drives... they are both variable speed.
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No, newer Mac drives spin at a constant rate. That's difficult to find out
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as most Macs have fans these days and they are quite a bit louder than the
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floppy.
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> >SIWM ("Super Integrated Woz Machine"). The IWM was the first integrated
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> >version of the WM, which was a very magical piece of circuitry, created
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> >(of course) by Steve Wozniak... totally incomprehensible, but it did its
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> >job with the absolutely fewest possible number of parts. ;-)
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> Incomprehensible? Nah...
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>
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What I meant is that Woz's circuitry was/is totally incomprehensible
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(at least for people with "normal" minds)...
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--
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Positive: Mistaken at the top of one's voice.
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--
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Matthias Urlichs \ XLink-POP N|rnberg | EMail: urlichs@smurf.noris.de
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Schleiermacherstra_e 12 \ Unix+Linux+Mac | Phone: ...please use email.
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90491 N|rnberg (Germany) \ Consulting+Networking+Programming+etc'ing 42
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Click <A HREF="http://smurf.noris.de/~urlichs/finger">here</A>.
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From: denebeim@bnr.ca (Jay Denebeim P025)
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Subject: Re: Amiga FileSystem, Anyone?
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Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 00:28:02 GMT
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In article <1994Mar6.130716.5368@pe1chl.ampr.org> pe1chl@rabo.nl writes:
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>Classification of 'more or less capable' is entirely yours. I would say
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>the PC disk controller is more capable, in that it handles tasks that
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>need to be done in software on the Amiga and Mac.
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You can say it, but that doesn't make it true. The Amiga has a
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coprocessor (blitter) that does the decoding for it. This not only
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takes 0 processor time to decode the tracks, it also allows it to take
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0 processor time to do most of the graphics. The Amiga was a truely
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eligant design, I've not seen any other system that even comes close
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to it. (sez Jay who is now using a Linux box for the most part)
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That reminds me of something that happened a number of years ago.
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When the Amiga came out the most impressive demo was called 'boing',
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I'm sure most everyone has seen it, it was a rapidly bouncing white
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and red ball. Immediately after the Amiga came out there were a bunch
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of demos written for about every machine in existance, also with a big
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white and red bouncing ball. They said 'See computer x can do it
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too'. Unfortunately they were entierly missing the point. The most
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impressive part of the boing demo was not that it could bounce a ball
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on the screen. What was impressive was that it only took 8% of the
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CPU to do this.
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The fact the Amiga only used 8% to do what the other machines used
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100% to do went right over their heads. This is understandable
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because they didn't know what multi-tasking was. Nine years later, in
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this linux crowd, I'm sure the point doesn't go over your heads.
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Jay
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Jay Denebeim Address: UUCP: duke!wolves!deepthot!jay
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Internet: jay@deepthot.cary.nc.us
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BBS:(919)-233-9937 VOICE:(919)-233-0776
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From: mlord@bnr.ca (Mark Lord)
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Subject: Re: gcc internal compiler error - SIGSE[2~[2SEGV
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Date: 10 Mar 1994 16:25:04 GMT
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In article <1994Mar9.092507.893@pe1chl.ampr.org> pe1chl@rabo.nl writes:
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>In <2lj9b2INNrj1@bowen.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> z1g192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Christopher Andrew Smith) writes:
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>
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>>I'm getting an error that I've never seen before when compiling a certain
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>>appliction. What happens is that after I've compiled all the object files
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>>for the application and start linking the application with the library
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>>I made, gcc reports an internal error which I've never encountered before.
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>This problem comes up in the news from time to time...
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Must be a real problem then, enough of us seem to be seeing it around
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the same time now.
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I just saw it for the first time ever under ALPHA-1.0 (Linux). Persisted until
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I rebooted the system, and now I haven't seen it since. I am running with old
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libraries & gcc (Fall-LGX CD), so I just assumed at first that it might be a
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bug that has been fixed in newer stuff. But other posters claim to be using
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very recent gcc/libc so now I'm beginning to suspect an instability in
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the kernel.
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--
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mlord@bnr.ca Mark Lord BNR Ottawa,Canada 613-763-7482
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From: ve@nils.rhein.de (Volkmar Eich)
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Subject: Adaptec hanging up if last dvice in chain is powered off
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Date: 10 Mar 1994 16:15:47 GMT
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Hi there,
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today I noticed a problem with my Adaptec controller I didn't find in
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other OS-Environments.
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If have a Adaptec 1542 controller installed. Internally there is a hard-drive
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connected. Externally there is a box with a WangDat Streamer. Works fine if
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the external power of the box is on.
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If I unplug it the whole filesystem crashes. As I know SCSI devices must
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terminate the bus (is done !) but I didn't know that all devices must
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be powered on.
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Somebody else with this problem / misbehaviour ? Or is there something
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wrong with my thoughts ?
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For reference: I use Alpha 1.0 Kernel.
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Volkmar
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P.S. The same problem occurs if I try to boot with power off for the external
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device.
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--
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Volkmar Eich Internet: ve@nils.rhein.de
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Attenberger Strasse 44 Telefon: (02248) 4825
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53773 Hennef
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Germany
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From: hjl@nynexst.com (H.J. Lu)
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Subject: Re: Can't link with -static, must use -g
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Date: 10 Mar 1994 14:17:43 GMT
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In article <BILL.94Mar9134207@yossarian.pianosa.gov>, bill@yossarian.pianosa.gov (Bill Reynolds) writes:
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|> I'm using gcc version 2.5.8 and libc.4.5.21. I can't get the -static,
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|> option to work - I've got to use -g instead.
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|> (yes, yes, I've deleted /usr/lib/libgcc.{s,}a :-)
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|>
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|> $ cat hello.c
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|> #include <stdio.h>
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|>
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|> main()
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|> {
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|> printf("Hello world\n");
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|> }
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|>
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|> $ gcc -v
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|> Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-unknown-linux/2.5.8/specs
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|> gcc version 2.5.8
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|> $ gcc -static hello.c
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|> /usr/lib/libc.a(fileops.o): Undefined symbol ___write referenced from
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|> text segment
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Please do
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su
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cd /usr/lib
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ar -d libg.a __.SYMDEF
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ranlib libg.a
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Fixed in the next release.
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H.J.
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|> $ gcc -g hello.c
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|> $ ldd a.out
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|> statically linked
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|> $ gcc hello.c
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|> $ ldd a.out
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|> libc.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl21) => /lib/libc.so.4.5.21
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|> $
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|>
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|>
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|> --
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|> _____________________________________________________________________________
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|> Bill Reynolds bill@goshawk.lanl.gov
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From: z1g192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Christopher Andrew Smith)
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Crossposted-To: gnu.gcc.help
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Subject: Assembly code debugger
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Date: 10 Mar 1994 17:21:11 -0800
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Does anyone know whether there is some sort of assembly language debugger
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for Linux (ie i386/486). I need some way to single step through a couple of
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assmebler routines which I wrote.
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It would be nice if the debugger handled C/C++ code as well, but that isn't
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crucial.
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Thanks in advance,
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Chris
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--
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|Christopher Smith | With a rubber duck, one's never alone. |
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|aka z1g192@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca |-- "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"|
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From: dmw@prism1.prism1.com (David Wright)
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Subject: Re: Specialix Driver Round 2 (From specialix)
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Date: 9 Mar 94 17:08:16 GMT
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>>>>> "AD" == Alan Drew <cdh@specialix.co.uk> writes:
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AD> Looks like I've been missing some of the fun. I'm not sure what
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You sure did! :-)
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AD> helpfull". Some months ago, I posted an offer, 1 Free developers toolkit
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AD> and 1 free SI16. All the software 2 terminal adaptors and 1 AT host card,
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AD> nearly 2000UK pounds worth of kit. I got one offer to set up a mailing
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AD> list and/or an FTP site (thanx, you know who you are) and *ONE* offer
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AD> to develop a driver. Count 'em.... *ONE*. There is an age old axiom
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I saw this, and would have responded, but although I am more than
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willing to work on the project (and I have my own SIO & RIO hardware to use,
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I would only need the Dev. kit portion), I just don't think I have the
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technical skills re: Linux device drivers to do a really good job. I have
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more of an applications/systems-level background... I am sure there are many
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others out there in the same boat, who saw your posts, and were pleased, but
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were/are unable to contribute anything other than enthusiasm...
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AD> "if you have a Linux driver, I'll be in the market for 4 cards". Sadly
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AD> promisory sales of a total of 64 ports do not make a wise
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AD> investment for us, and nobody bar one of you wanted the driver so
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AD> desperately that you were prepared to do the work yourselves.
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Nicely said. But it makes me happy to know that SOMEONE (the man you
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spoke of) is doing to work for those of us who can't. If he allows it, would
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consider distributing the driver with the boards themselves? And as part of the
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DevKit do you include the source to your nice "config.si" program? I was able
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to get our company switched over to Specialix boards exclusively (we used to
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install/reccommend DigiBoard), and I would love to have a configuration &
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setup program that worked as smoothly & easily under Linux as the one you
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supply for SCO.
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Cheers,
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Dave
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From: fnord@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (Andrew M. Kuchling)
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Subject: Re: Loaded fonts discarded after X vt switch...
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Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 17:47:14 GMT
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In article <CMEyv8.IsF@cwi.nl>, Andries Brouwer (aeb@cwi.nl) wrote:
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: I think X restores the font that was present at startup.
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: It is easy to make the kernel remember the font, or even
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: to have a separate font for each vt, but in my opinion
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: this is a waste of memory.
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Well, I occasionally run Linux with different fonts on each virtual
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console, and desperately missed that feature in pl15's font handling. I've
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written a kernel patch that does exactly what Andries mentioned; it lets you
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use a different font for each VC, and restores the font correctly after
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exiting X. (Yes, it does use more memory; 8K per font, plus about 10K of
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added kernel code and variables.) I'll upload the patch to sunsite after
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another week of trying it out; if you *really* want it now, just drop me a
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line.
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Andrew Kuchling
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fnord@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
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