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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #545
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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date: Sun, 13 Mar 94 03:13:08 EST
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Linux-Development Digest #545, Volume #1 Sun, 13 Mar 94 03:13:08 EST
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Contents:
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setserial & pcmcia card
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Take a look at this netstat, please... (Paul Smith)
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Re: select (Matthias Urlichs)
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Possibly-fatal ISOFS bug +PATCH (Re: A truly non-debugging Kernel?) (Matthias Urlichs)
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Re: Modula-3 compiler (Michel Dagenais)
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Re: telnet uid length <=8?? (John F. Haugh II)
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Re: YP or NIS for linux? (John F. Haugh II)
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Re: VT's must all use the same font [was Re: Loaded fonts discarded aft] (Andries Brouwer)
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Re: Amiga File System, once again (Hamish Macdonald)
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Re: A truely non-debugging Kernel? (John F. Haugh II)
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Re: finger access requirements (John F. Haugh II)
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Re: AMD 486DX problem (with Linux?) (Charles T Wilson -- Personal Account)
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From: alan@qsss01.gs.com ()
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Subject: setserial & pcmcia card
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Reply-To: alan@qsss01.gs.com
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 03:37:14 GMT
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i posted this article to c.o.l.help a while back, but did not hear
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anything. perhaps there is a serial driver expert here who can help
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me out.
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i have a notebook computer running linux .99pl14w, with a mhz 14400
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pcmcia faxcard. if I boot dos first after powering on the system, i am
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able to configure the fax card as either com3 or com4, and then reboot
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linux and have it recognize the faxcard as either ttys2 or ttys3.
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the notebook also has a mouse connected to com1 (the external device)
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and a trackball (an internal device). the problem that I have is that
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if I configure the faxcard as COM3 (ttys2) it gets disabled when i
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start X and enable the mouse on COM1 (ttys0), or if I configure the
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faxcard as COM4 (ttys3) the same happens when I start X and enable the
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built in trackball.
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i have tried various combinations of setserial, and even searched
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through to see if there is anything in any of the FAQ's, but I could
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not uncover anything that would allow me to overcome this conflict. is
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there a way to do this ? or am i hitting a serial driver limitation ?
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Alan
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==========
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_/ Alan M Buckwalter _/
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_/ _/ +1 212 902 5586 _/ _/
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_/ _/ _/ alan@qsss08.eq.gs.com _/ _/ _/
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From: psmith@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (Paul Smith)
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Subject: Take a look at this netstat, please...
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Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 20:07:07 GMT
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Active Internet connections
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Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (State)
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tcp 148 0 eucd.adpc.purdue.:1130 TSX-11.MIT.ED:ftp-data CLOSE_WAIT off (0.00/0) 0
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tcp 716 0 eucd.adpc.purdue.:1234 wcarchive.cdr:ftp-data CLOSE_WAIT off (0.00/0) 0
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I did this netstat at ~3:00 PM (my time). I had performed these
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two ftp's over *4* hours earlier. Why haven't these closed down?
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Also, my system seems to have lost about on hour on the system clock... why?
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Please see also my other posts/replies related to problems with networking
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and gopher/gn servers.
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Tx,
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-Paul
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From: urlichs@smurf.noris.de (Matthias Urlichs)
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Subject: Re: select
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Date: 12 Mar 1994 21:08:42 +0100
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In comp.os.linux.development, article <CMGn2A.nq@aston.ac.uk>,
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evansmp@mb48026.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans) writes:
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> Matthias Urlichs (urlichs@smurf.noris.de) wrote:
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> : In comp.os.linux.development, article <fgm.763211130@lipo>,
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> : fgm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Frank McCabe) writes:
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> : > I have come across an apparent problem with the select system call.
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> : >
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> : Wrong. You've come across a bug in your program.
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>
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> This is the second example I have spotted of someone doing this....
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>
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At least. I assume the zero'th example is the instance in the rpc library,
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which would fire off nonstop requests to the portmapper if it dares to time
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out the first time. :-(
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> : Yes. Read the documentation. You're reusing your timeout values.
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> : The first time you call select(), it zeroes the variable because no more
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>
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> I thought it actually set the value to the time remaining of the original
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> timout. Thus it zeros if the select ends due to a timeount. But it may
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> not end up as zero if it is due to any fd's being ready.
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>
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Of course, but...
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> It could be that you will get unpridictable behaviour on timeout, before
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> getting to the state of no timout.
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>
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... which could of course also happen. Hit me for fitting my explanation to
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what most likely did happen, instead of mentioning anything that might
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possibly explain the observed effect. :-/
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> : This is mentioned in both the SunOS and Linux manpages for select().
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>
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> What happens is that quite a few versions of select(), including on Suns,
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> never write to the timeout.
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Which is also mentioned in the SunOS manpage. ;-)
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--
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Message will arrive in the mail.
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Destroy, before the FBI sees it.
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--
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Matthias Urlichs \ XLink-POP N|rnberg | EMail: urlichs@smurf.noris.de
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Schleiermacherstra_e 12 \ Unix+Linux+Mac | Phone: ...please use email.
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90491 N|rnberg (Germany) \ Consulting+Networking+Programming+etc'ing 42
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Click <A HREF="http://smurf.noris.de/~urlichs/finger">here</A>.
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From: urlichs@smurf.noris.de (Matthias Urlichs)
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Subject: Possibly-fatal ISOFS bug +PATCH (Re: A truly non-debugging Kernel?)
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Date: 12 Mar 1994 21:27:08 +0100
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In comp.os.linux.development, article <DOUG.94Mar11165709@midget.towson.edu>,
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doug@midget.towson.edu (Doug McNaught) writes:
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>
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> >Geez! The kernel has _so much_ debugging code (sanity checks, etc) that
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> >I wonder how much smaller it could be. It seems most kernel developers
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> >have never heard of #ifdef... Just a thought :-)
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>
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You might like sanity checks if you see the two fatal bugs in
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fs/isofs/inode.c I found yesterday. The appended patch fixes them.
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> Well, I'd rather give up some memory and have something that panics
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> and shuts itself down rather than blindly hosing my filesystems and/or
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> hardware... I *like* sanity checks. A lot.
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Most sanity checks don't add much code and are not in any time-critical
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paths.
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The rest might well be #ifdef'd. For instance, while tracing kernel malloc
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code and zeroing out the allocated buffers to prevent overrun and reuse is
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a very nice and debuggingly-helpful idea, it also eats up a lot of CPU
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time. So it's conditional. (Assuming that Linus someday puts the
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kmalloc-debugging code back into the kernel.)
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NB: The whole idea of kmalloc()ing the data space for an inode should be
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ripped out of the isofs code. Returning a random error message on random
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file system requests, just because memory is low and the files happen to be
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on a CD-ROM, is not my idea of reliability. The patch affixed below only
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prevents you from simply crashing instead of getting the error message in a
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low-mem situation. Better, but not optimal.
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The _other_ bug fixed by the patch can bite you anytime. I think the fact
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that it doesn't seem to have seriously bitten anybody yet is nothing short of
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amazing.
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diff -rub /usr/src/linux.netbsd/fs/isofs/inode.c ./fs/isofs/inode.c
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--- /usr/src/linux.netbsd/fs/isofs/inode.c Thu Feb 24 18:47:08 1994
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+++ ./fs/isofs/inode.c Sat Mar 12 04:00:56 1994
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@@ -344,18 +344,23 @@
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if ((inode->i_ino & (bufsize - 1)) + *pnt > bufsize){
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cpnt = kmalloc(1 << ISOFS_BLOCK_BITS, GFP_KERNEL);
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+ if(cpnt == NULL) {
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+ printk(KERN_INFO "NoMem for ISOFS inode %d\n",inode->i_ino);
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+ brelse(bh);
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+ goto fail;
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+ }
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memcpy(cpnt, bh->b_data, bufsize);
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brelse(bh);
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if (!(bh = bread(inode->i_sb->s_dev,++block, bufsize))) {
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kfree_s (cpnt, 1 << ISOFS_BLOCK_BITS);
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printk("unable to read i-node block");
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goto fail;
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- };
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+ }
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memcpy((char *)cpnt + bufsize, bh->b_data, bufsize);
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pnt = ((unsigned char *) cpnt
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+ (inode->i_ino & (bufsize - 1)));
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raw_inode = ((struct iso_directory_record *) pnt);
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- };
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+ }
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inode->i_mode = S_IRUGO; /* Everybody gets to read the file. */
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inode->i_nlink = 1;
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@@ -463,11 +468,6 @@
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#endif
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brelse(bh);
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- if (cpnt) {
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- kfree_s (cpnt, 1 << ISOFS_BLOCK_BITS);
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- cpnt = NULL;
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- };
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-
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inode->i_op = NULL;
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if (inode->i_sb->u.isofs_sb.s_cruft != 'y' &&
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isonum_723 (raw_inode->volume_sequence_number) != 1) {
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@@ -486,6 +486,11 @@
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else if (S_ISFIFO(inode->i_mode))
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init_fifo(inode);
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}
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+ if (cpnt) {
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+ kfree_s (cpnt, 1 << ISOFS_BLOCK_BITS);
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+ cpnt = NULL;
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+ }
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+
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return;
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fail:
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/* With a data error we return this information */
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--
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I, I am not a Marxist.
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-- Karl Marx (1818-1883)
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--
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Matthias Urlichs \ XLink-POP N|rnberg | EMail: urlichs@smurf.noris.de
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Schleiermacherstra_e 12 \ Unix+Linux+Mac | Phone: ...please use email.
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90491 N|rnberg (Germany) \ Consulting+Networking+Programming+etc'ing 42
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Click <A HREF="http://smurf.noris.de/~urlichs/finger">here</A>.
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From: dagenais@froh.vlsi.polymtl.ca (Michel Dagenais)
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Subject: Re: Modula-3 compiler
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Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 17:09:14 GMT
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You can ftp Modula-3 for Linux from gatekeeper.dec.com. Look in
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"pub/DEC/Modula-3/release-3.1".
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The binaries are available on
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ftp.vlsi.polymtl.ca:lude/modula3-3.1/run/linux.tar.Z. However, 3.1 was the
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first release of the new native compiler and a few things need to be fixed.
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The 3.2 release should be out shortly at which time i will try to get
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the full distribution working, with shared libraries, and some install
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instructions. A that point i will announce it on c.o.l.a..
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--
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=====================================================================
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Prof. Michel Dagenais dagenais@vlsi.polymtl.ca
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Dept of Electrical and Computer Eng.
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Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal tel: (514) 340-4029
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=====================================================================
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From: jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II)
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Subject: Re: telnet uid length <=8??
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Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
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Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 19:50:26 GMT
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In article <2lgrgh$buo@nic.ott.hookup.net> root@borg.ott.ca (Sys admin) writes:
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>Only people with user id's of 8 chars or less can use my
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>telnet port. they can log onto my linux system through the
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>serial port, but not over the internet through telnet.
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>(or even locally for that matter.. if they have 9 char or >
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>userids!!!!)
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The only limitation I know of in Shadow is 32 characters (see
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lmain.c) or an entire password file line <= BUFSIZ in length
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(see pwent.c). If you're having a problem, make sure you have
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the right version of software. If you're just asking a question
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the answer should be "there is no 8 character limitation".
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--
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John F. Haugh II [ NRA-ILA ] [ Kill Barney ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
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Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151 [GOP][DoF #17][PADI][ENTJ] @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
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There are three documents that run my life: The King James Bible, the United
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States Constitution, and the UNIX System V Release 4 Programmer's Reference.
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From: jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II)
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Subject: Re: YP or NIS for linux?
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Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
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Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 19:53:39 GMT
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In article <2lpu08$983@smurf.noris.de> urlichs@smurf.noris.de (Matthias Urlichs) writes:
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>Alternately, since the original question was what to do if you have a
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>too-big passwd file, you replace the linear lookup in the passwd file
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>with gdbm access and forget about yp.
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That was my point exactly. The current NYS package, which is designed
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ostensibly to replace all of the getpw*() and getsp*() functions does
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not support any of the DBM file formats. I intend to get a copy of NYS
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and put in NDBM support whenever I get Shadow out the door this spring.
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(GDBM will do NDBM, so I view NDBM as a more portable interface.)
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>Sometimes, the simple but reliable solution doesn't scale well enough to be
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>useable.
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I have spoken with people who use DBM files to support /etc/passwd
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files with upward of 30,000 users. I'm not aware of any scalability
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problems with DBM files. I am aware of problems pushing YP maps
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that are that size.
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--
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John F. Haugh II [ NRA-ILA ] [ Kill Barney ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
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Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151 [GOP][DoF #17][PADI][ENTJ] @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
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There are three documents that run my life: The King James Bible, the United
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States Constitution, and the UNIX System V Release 4 Programmer's Reference.
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From: aeb@cwi.nl (Andries Brouwer)
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Subject: Re: VT's must all use the same font [was Re: Loaded fonts discarded aft]
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Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 13:24:45 GMT
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joel@rac3.wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman) writes:
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...
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>So I NEED different fonts on different VT's.
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...
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>Who made this decision? I understand the code was rewritten (which is
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>probably a good thing, because I'm a Pascal programmer, and don't
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>really know C....), but why was the behavior changed?
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You asked this question before, and I answered it. Now you ask
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it again, and the answer will be the same.
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Several implementations of font loading code were floating around,
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and I liked Crosser's version best, polished it a little and proposed
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including it in the standard kernel, which Linus did.
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[So, no behaviour was changed, but a choice was made.]
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Now should there be a separate font for each VT?
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If everyone wants it, then yes. If many people want it, then
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it should at least be a configuration option.
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But there is a danger of pollution: there are many potentially
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nice things, and at configuration time one could easily have
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fifty keyboard/console-related questions.
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Separate fonts for each VT take a lot of memory, and are used
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by relatively few Linux users, so cannot be the default, I think.
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How inconvenient is it not to have these separate fonts?
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I also use several fonts, but maybe not as much as you do,
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and for me the following construction is quite satisfactory:
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% loadkeys
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string F1 = "chvt 1; setfont -16 font1
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"
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string F2 = "chvt 2; setfont -16 font2
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"
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string F3 = "chvt 3; setfont -16 font3
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"
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%
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Now pressing a function key (while at the shell prompt)
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brings me to the right VT and sets the right font.
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(But if not at a shell prompt I have to make a detour:
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Alt-F6 to find a shell, followed by F2, say, to get to
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the right VT with the right font.)
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Thus, at the cost of at most one additional keystroke when
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changing VTs, I save many Kb of memory.
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Of course this is a kludge, but my vision of future development
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is not one with a VT for English, one for Hebrew and one for Russian,
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but Unicode on all VTs, so that you can mix all alphabets everywhere.
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After 1.0.
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Andries
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From: Hamish.Macdonald@bnr.ca (Hamish Macdonald)
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Subject: Re: Amiga File System, once again
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Date: 10 Mar 1994 21:28:38 GMT
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>>>>> On 10 Mar 1994 05:06:54 EST,
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>>>>> In message <2lmrfu$db9@wizard.uark.edu>,
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>>>>> dfaulkne@comp..uark.edu (Donald Faulkner) wrote:
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Donald> So how about it... are there plans for an amiga file system
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Donald> for Amiga Linux?
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There is an "Amiga Fast File System" filesystem for Linux/68k. It
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cannot write to an Amiga FFS, and I have not tested it on floppies
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yet.
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This filesystem was taken from the work of someone (I'm afraid I can't
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remember who) who did this work for Linux/PC (he wanted to read an old
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Amiga SCSI hard disk from his PC, I believe).
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The only modifications I've made to it were to conditionalize the
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longword swapping that had to be done for the i386.
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I regularly use this filesystem to copy files I've downloaded (using
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AmigaDOS) to my Linux/68k hard disk partitions.
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From: jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II)
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Subject: Re: A truely non-debugging Kernel?
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Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
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Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 19:56:24 GMT
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In article <DOUG.94Mar11165709@midget.towson.edu> doug@midget.towson.edu (Doug McNaught) writes:
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>In article <2loo9h$fo8@aurora.engr.latech.edu> ramos@engr.latech.edu (Alex Ramos) writes:
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>
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>>Geez! The kernel has _so much_ debugging code (sanity checks, etc) that
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>>I wonder how much smaller it could be. It seems most kernel developers
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>>have never heard of #ifdef... Just a thought :-)
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>
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> Well, I'd rather give up some memory and have something that panics
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>and shuts itself down rather than blindly hosing my filesystems and/or
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>hardware... I *like* sanity checks. A lot.
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That's all or nothing thinking -- ship the kernel with #ifdef DEBUG and
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after a few weeks when you are happy, recompile with -UDEBUG.
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--
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John F. Haugh II [ NRA-ILA ] [ Kill Barney ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
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Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151 [GOP][DoF #17][PADI][ENTJ] @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
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There are three documents that run my life: The King James Bible, the United
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States Constitution, and the UNIX System V Release 4 Programmer's Reference.
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From: jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II)
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Subject: Re: finger access requirements
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Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
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Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 20:26:15 GMT
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For your amusement --
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In article <richard.soderberg.2.2D7C556C@mic.ki.se> richard.soderberg@mic.ki.se writes:
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>Hello!
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>In order to be readable by fingerd .plan and .project has to reside in a
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>directory (my home) that is executable by all, right (?).
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>This doesn't seem very attractive to me. Is there a workaround for this that
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>will allow people to see the .plan and .project files without compromomising
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>security? Is it possible to put these files somewhere else? Any alternative
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>fingerd?
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>TIA
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>/RS
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--
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John F. Haugh II [ NRA-ILA ] [ Kill Barney ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
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Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151 [GOP][DoF #17][PADI][ENTJ] @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
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There are three documents that run my life: The King James Bible, the United
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States Constitution, and the UNIX System V Release 4 Programmer's Reference.
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From: ctwilson@rock.concert.net (Charles T Wilson -- Personal Account)
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Subject: Re: AMD 486DX problem (with Linux?)
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Date: 13 Mar 1994 03:36:35 GMT
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In article <2lknvi$b5f@serra.unipi.it>,
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Romano Giannetti <romano@pimac2.iet.unipi.it> wrote:
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>In comp.os.linux.development, Charles T Wilson -- Personal Account (ctwilson@rock.concert.net) wrote:
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>> My apologies if it's bad netiquitte to post a file like this in
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>> this newsgroup, but I was glancing at this thread, and thought
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>> you might be interested in this program, which tells you a lot
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>> about how your processor/compiler handles lots of things, floating
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>> point representation among them. It's kinda old, but I think it's
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>> still valid...enjoy.
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>
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>But _before_ comment out the following lines around line#450:
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>
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> while (size!=0) {
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> while (malloc(size)!=(char *)NULL)
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> total+=(size/2);
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> size/=2;
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> }
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>
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>that drive my Linux box to a quiet dead :-) after a lot of swapping.
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>BTW: is this normal? I cannot afford test it on another Unix. My conf
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>is Linux pre-1.0, 8M ram, 16M swap. The box don't crash nor panic,
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>only get more and more slow if I don't ctrl-c the program.
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Well, my apologies again...I hadn't run this in several kernel versions,
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where it worked fine. At this point in the code it's trying to see how
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much mallocable space there is. It ran *much* faster on older kernels,
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but seems to really bog down on my pl14 kernel...sorry if I caused problems.
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For the record, I've never known it to do this on any other unix, and I've
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run it on quite a few.
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Sorry if I caused anyone else any worries..
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--
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/-----------------------------------------------------------------------\
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| Tom Wilson | "I can't complain, but sometimes |
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| ctwilson@rock.concert.net | I still do." |
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| | -Joe Walsh |
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