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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #552
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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 09:13:20 EST
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Linux-Development Digest #552, Volume #1 Mon, 14 Mar 94 09:13:20 EST
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Contents:
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Small patch for Umsdos, please give it a try (Jacques Gelinas)
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Brief summary of interface sockets? (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP)
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Re: Specialix Driver Round 2 (From specialix) (Donald J. Becker)
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Re: TTY overruns cost money. (Kai Petzke)
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Performance on remote machine using rlogin (Barry Yip kam-wa)
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Update on `hard-params' program (Bram Bouwens)
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Linux not answering timedc c (Rafal Maszkowski)
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Linux 1.0---A better UNIX than Windows NT (Linus Torvalds)
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Re: GOD SPEAKS ON LINUX! (Anton Toom)
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Re: Short delays outside of the kernel (Lawrence Foard)
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Re: UDP report card (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP)
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Re: VT's must all use the same font [was Re: Loaded fonts discarded aft] (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP)
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I'm looking for the Latest GCC and Libs (Jean-Paul Chia)
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From: jack@solucorp.qc.ca (Jacques Gelinas)
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Subject: Small patch for Umsdos, please give it a try
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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 05:16:49 GMT
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umsdos 0.2 is now used by many. I have received few bug reports
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difficult to replicate. All those were related to the inability
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to locate a file even if it is there (a ls just after the failure
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shows it). I have located and fixed at least one bug. A small diff
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follow.
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Those who have that kind of odd behavior, could you try it. If possible
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could you email again even if this is fixing it or not. I have
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received a number of mail reporting mostly "false alarm" bug. To
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make things more complicated, my email system went a little crazy
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and I am pretty sure I have lost some messages (since 3 weeks ago).
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I have updated to the latest sendmail and now all look fine.
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This patch must be applied in /usr/src/linux/fs/umsdos
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====================================================================
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*** dir.bak Sat Feb 5 15:36:10 1994
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--- dir.c Sun Mar 13 23:45:30 1994
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***************
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*** 329,334 ****
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--- 329,337 ----
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memcpy (entry->name,dirent.d_name,dirent.d_reclen);
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entry->name[dirent.d_reclen] = '\0';
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entry->name_len = dirent.d_reclen;
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+ inode->u.umsdos_i.i_dir_owner = dir->i_ino;
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+ inode->u.umsdos_i.i_emd_owner = 0;
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+ umsdos_setup_dir_inode(inode);
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break;
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}
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}
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======================================================
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Thanks in advance!
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PS: For those who asked, here is the status of umsdos.
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1-Make sure all known bug are solved (pretty close I guess).
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2-Promote integration in the standard kernel right after 1.0 is out.
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3-Enhance performance.
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In parallel I intend to produce LADR (Linux Advanced Desktop Release).
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I am currently exploring the Andrew Multimedia system
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to produce the help and administration system. Anyone with good
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experience with it ? Some pointers would be welcome :-)
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Jacques Gelinas (jacques@solucorp.qc.ca)
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Maintainer of US4BINR jacques@us4binr.login.qc.ca
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From: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP)
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Subject: Brief summary of interface sockets?
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Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 07:37:10 GMT
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Hi there,
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I wonder if someone could email me, post, or give me a pointer to a
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brief summary of using SOCK_PACKET to obtain raw Ethernet packets
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under Linux. I have a prototype program that uses raw Ethernet
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sockets under SGI IRIX, but before releasing it I would like it to run on
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Linux as well. I only need to know the things that are specific to
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the SOCK_PACKETS interface compared to UDP or RAW sockets (or, if you
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happen to know the SGI SNOOP/DRAIN interface, the differences between
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that and Linux). I am primarily interested in nonpromiscuous use
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(based on a specific Ethertype).
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/hpa
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--
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INTERNET: hpa@nwu.edu FINGER/TALK: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu
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IBM MAIL: I0050052 at IBMMAIL HAM RADIO: N9ITP or SM4TKN
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FIDONET: 1:115/511 or 1:115/512 STORMNET: 181:294/101
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Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum.
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From: becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker)
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Subject: Re: Specialix Driver Round 2 (From specialix)
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Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 16:05:29 GMT
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In article <cdh.763034702@specialix.co.uk>,
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Alan Drew <cdh@specialix.co.uk> wrote:
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>Looks like I've been missing some of the fun. I'm not sure what
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>this argument is really all about, tho' I *am* sure that one
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>of you kind souls will enlighten me.
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What happened was the typical Usenet digression. Everyone (that understood
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the topic, that is) agreed that what Specialix wanted to do was perfectly
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fine. The topic moved to loadable device drivers (*not* the original
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downloaded embedded code), and some uninformed people started flaming the
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Linux developers for claiming something that had never been claimed. The
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out-of-context quotes caused even more people to jump in, and ...
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the flames went on.
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>A device driver (Partcularily an Intelligent device driver) usual fits
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>something like this (in block diagram format) into your system.
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>
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>+-----+ +--------------+ +---------------+ +-------------------+
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>| O/S |----| Device Driver|-----| Download Code |----| modem/terminal etc|
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>+-----+ +--------------+ +---------------+ +-------------------+
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I disagree with this diagram. The vast majority of devices have a
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register-level interface that appears as hardware, and the device drivers
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are tightly integrated with the kernel
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+--------------------+ +------------------------------------------+
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| O/S + Device Driver|-----| modem/terminal etc (opt. Download Code))|
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+--------------------+ +------------------------------------------+
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--
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Donald Becker becker@super.org
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IDA Supercomputing Research Center
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17100 Science Drive, Bowie MD 20715 301-805-7482
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From: wpp@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Kai Petzke)
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Subject: Re: TTY overruns cost money.
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Date: 14 Mar 94 10:23:06 GMT
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I wrote:
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>I noticed these serial overruns from my mouse long times before.
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>They happen on my 386 DX 40, when I do data transfer with my
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>internal modem at 115200 bps.
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OOps. Not the modem caused the problem. The printer did. The
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last sentence should read as "They happen on my 386 DX 40, when
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I send large bitmaps to the printer."
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Sorry for my confusion.
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--
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Kai Petzke <wpp@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de>
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Advertisement by Microsoft in a well-known German magazine:
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If you don't like our programmes, then make your own ones.
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However, they expect you to use Microsoft products for this -:)
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From: g609296@win.or.jp (Barry Yip kam-wa)
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Subject: Performance on remote machine using rlogin
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Date: 14 Mar 94 10:00:42 GMT
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Hi everyone, I have serious problem when rlogin a remote machine and do
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some modem stuffs. For example, after rlogin another machine and run
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kermit, I can't dialup to outer world successfully no matter it is a BBS
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host or a unix machine. I did get connected but a lot of characters
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dropped. Is it the *famous* TTY overrun? Doing same thing on the machine
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(sitting in front of it :-) works fine up to 38400 without a glitch. I
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am using a AMD386 DX40 and ZyXEL 1496E+ and 16450 though.
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In another occassion, I tried download some files (a few MB) from a
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dialup unix host. Everything fine until I rlogin this machine from
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another one. I do some 'ls', 'rm, 'cp' stuffs etc. Then lots of retry
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coming out. I stop, it continues fine. Doing similar things locally
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shows no problem. Is it a network problem or the remote stuff is
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so demanding(seems not so)?
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--
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\ \\/o\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ \ \\/o\
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>===== / | Barry Yip Fido 6:730/16.0 | >===== /
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//// ~ | ^^^^^^^^^ g609296@win.or.jp | //// ~
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From: d70@nikhef.nl (Bram Bouwens)
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Subject: Update on `hard-params' program
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Date: 14 Mar 94 09:20:31 GMT
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Reply-To: d70@nikhefh.nikhef.nl (Bram Bouwens)
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I tried the hard-params.c program posted in this group last
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week on my HP, but it crashed, so I asked the author,
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Steven.Pemberton@cwi.nl, about it.
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It is now called `enquire', to be found in {pub}/misc on
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ftp.eu.net, or http://www.cwi.nl/ftp/steven/www/enquire.html
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for WWW-users, and it works fine.
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Bram
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From: rzm@oso.chalmers.se (Rafal Maszkowski)
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Subject: Linux not answering timedc c
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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 10:45:18 GMT
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I tried to check time difference on my 1.0 (March 13) with
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timedc c dain but it looks like dain is not answering and
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timedc doesn't disply anything and stops. What can be the
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reason?
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R.
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--
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Rafal Maszkowski rzm@oso.chalmers.se rzm@mat.uni.torun.pl <-finger for public
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snail: Omgangen 464-82, 412-80 Goteborg, Sweden; tel: +46-31-7780831 key
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Opinia publiczna powinna byc zaalarmowana swoim nieistnieniem - St. J. Lec
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From: Linus Torvalds <Linus.Torvalds@helsinki.fi>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.announce,comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Linux 1.0---A better UNIX than Windows NT
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Date: 14 Mar 1994 12:51:16 GMT
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Finally, here it is. Almost on time (being just two years late is
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peanuts in the OS industry), and better than ever:
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Linux kernel release 1.0
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This release has no new major features compared to the pl15 kernels, but
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contains lots and lots of bugfixes: all the major ones are gone, the
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smaller ones are hidden better. Hopefully there are no major new ones.
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The Linux kernel can be found as source on most of the Linux ftp-sites
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under the names
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linux-1.0.tar.gz (full source)
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linux-1.0.patch.pl15.gz (patch against linux-0.99pl15)
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linux-1.0.patch.alpha.gz (patch from linux-pre-1.0)
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it should be available at least at the sites
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ftp.funet.fi:
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pub/OS/Linux/PEOPLE/Linus (now)
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sunsite.unc.ed:
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pub/Linux/Incoming (now)
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pub/Linux/kernel (soon)
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tsx-11.mit.edu:
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pub/linux/sources/system (soon)
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ftp.cs.helsinki.fi:
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pub/Software/Linux/Kernel (now)
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This release finally moves Linux out of Beta status and is meant as a
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base for distributions to build on. It will neither change Linux'
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status as FreeWare under the GPL, nor will it mean the end of
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development on Linux. In fact many new features where held back for
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later releases so that 1.0 could become a well tested and hopefully
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stable release.
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The Linux kernel wouldn't be where it is today without the help of lots
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of people: the kernel developers, the people who did user-level programs
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making linux useful, and the brave and foolhardy people who risked their
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harddisks and sanity to test it all out. My thanks to you all.
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(Editorial note: if you think this sounds too much like the Academy
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Awards ceremony, just skip this: it's not getting any better.)
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Thanks to people like Aaron Kushner, Danny ter Haar and the authors of
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the AnwenderHandbuch (and others) who have helped me with hardware or
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monetary donations (and to the Oxford Beer Trolls and others who took
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care of the drinkware). And thanks to Dirk, who helped me write this
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announcement despite my lazyness ("hey, it's just another release, who
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needs an announcement anyway?").
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To make a long and boring story a bit shorter and boring, here is at
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least a partial list of people who have been helping make Linux what it
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is today. Thanks to you all,
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Krishna Balasubramanian <balasub@cis.ohio-state.edu>
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Arindam Banerji <axb@cse.nd.edu>
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Peter Bauer <100136.3530@compuserve.com>
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Fred Baumgarten <dc6iq@insu1.etec.uni-karlsruhe.de>
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Donald Becker <becker@super.org>
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Stephen R. van den Berg <berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>
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Hennus Bergman <hennus@sky.nl.mugnet.org>
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Ross Biro <bir7@leland.Stanford.Edu>
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Bill Bogstad <bogstad@cs.jhu.edu>
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John Boyd <boyd@cis.ohio-state.edu>
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Andries Brouwer <aeb@cwi.nl>
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Remy Card <Remy.Card@masi.ibp.fr>
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Ed Carp <ecarp@netcom.com>
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Raymond Chen <raymondc@microsoft.com>
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Alan Cox <iiitac@pyr.swan.ac.uk>
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Laurence Culhane <loz@holmes.demon.co.uk>
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Wayne Davison <davison@borland.com>
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Thomas Dunbar <tdunbar@vtaix.cc.vt.edu>
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Torsten Duwe <duwe@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
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Drew Eckhardt <drew@cs.Colorado.EDU>
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Bjorn Ekwall <bj0rn@blox.se>
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Doug Evans <dje@cygnus.com>
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Rik Faith <faith@cs.unc.edu>
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Juergen Fischer <fischer@server.et-inf.fho-emden.de>
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Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@sw.oz.au>
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Ralf Flaxa <rfflaxa@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
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Nigel Gamble <nigel%gamble.uucp@gate.net>
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Philip Gladstone <philipg@onsett.com>
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Bruno Haible <haible@ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de>
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Andrew Haylett <ajh@gec-mrc.co.uk>
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Dirk Hohndel <hohndel@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
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Nick Holloway <alfie@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>
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Ron Holt <ron@novell.com>
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Rob W. W. Hooft <hooft@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE>
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Michael K. Johnson <johnsonm@sunsite.unc.edu>
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Fred N. van Kempen <waltje@uwalt.nl.mugnet.org>
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Olaf Kirch <okir@monad.swb.de>
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Ian Kluft <ikluft@thunder.sbay.org>
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Rudolf Koenig <rfkoenig@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
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Bas Laarhoven <bas@vimec.nl>
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Warner Losh <imp@boulder.parcplace.com>
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H.J. Lu <hjl@nynexst.com>
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Tuomas J. Lukka <Tuomas.Lukka@Helsinki.FI>
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Kai M"akisara <Kai.Makisara@vtt.fi>
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Pat Mackinlay <pat@it.com.au>
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John A. Martin <jmartin@csc.com>
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Bradley McLean <brad@bradpc.gaylord.com>
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Craig Metz <cmetz@tjhsst.edu>
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William (Bill) Metzenthen <billm@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>
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Rick Miller <rick@discus.mil.wi.us>
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Corey Minyard <minyard@wf-rch.cirr.com>
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Eberhard Moenkeberg <emoenke@gwdg.de>
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Ian A. Murdock <imurdock@shell.portal.com>
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Johan Myreen <jem@vipunen.hut.fi>
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Stefan Probst <snprobst@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
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Daniel Quinlan <quinlan@bucknell.edu>
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Florian La Roche <rzsfl@rz.uni-sb.de>
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Robert Sanders <gt8134b@prism.gatech.edu>
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Peter De Schrijver <stud11@cc4.kuleuven.ac.be>
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Darren Senn <sinster@scintilla.santa-clara.ca.us>
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Chris Smith <csmith@convex.com>
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Drew Sullivan <drew@lethe.north.net>
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Tommy Thorn <Tommy.Thorn@daimi.aau.dk>
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Jon Tombs <jon@gtex02.us.es>
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Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
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Simmule Turner <simmy@digex.com>
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Stephen Tweedie <sct@dcs.ed.ac.uk>
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Thomas Uhl <uhl@sun1.rz.fh-heilbronn.de>
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Juergen Weigert <jnweiger@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
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Matt Welsh <mdw@sunsite.unc.edu>
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Marco van Wieringen <mvw@mercury.mcs.nl.mugnet.org>
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Stephen D. Williams <sdw@lig.net>
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G\"unter Windau <gunter@mbfys.kun.nl>
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Lars Wirzenius <lars.wirzenius@helsinki.fi>
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Roger E. Wolff <wolff@dutecai.et.tudelft.nl>
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Frank Xia <qx@math.columbia.edu>
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Eric Youngdale <eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil>
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Orest Zborowski <orestz@microsoft.com>
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A more detailed list with contact and description information can be
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found in the CREDITS file that accompanies the kernel sources.
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--
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Mail submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: linux-announce@tc.cornell.edu
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PLEASE remember Keywords: and a short description of the software.
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From: ontonca@the-college.iwctx.edu (Anton Toom)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Re: GOD SPEAKS ON LINUX!
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Date: 13 Mar 94 01:57:07 GMT
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Glen Buhlmann (gbuhlman@uoguelph.ca) wrote:
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: I am God......and I use an Amiga......
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a friend of mine, a greek god, uses his old apple2. says it's ok.
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--
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user ontonca@the-college.iwctx.edu: file ~/.signature not found
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From: entropy@world.std.com (Lawrence Foard)
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Subject: Re: Short delays outside of the kernel
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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 06:05:55 GMT
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In article <1994Mar12.162933.25336@cc.gatech.edu>,
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Byron A Jeff <byron@cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
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>I'm in the process of building a EPROM/Microcontroller board. I'm planning
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>on writing the software under linux. One of the requirements is to have
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>a very short (100 uS) pulse to program the parts.
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You might want to just put a 1 shot on the board, this would avoid having
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any tight timing requirments.
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--
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====== Call the skeptic hotline 1=900=555=5555 talk to your own personal .
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\ / skeptic 24 hours/day. Just say no to victimless crimes. . .
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\ / High quality Linux application development available. . . .
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\/ The true theory of everything will run on a finite turing machine. . . .
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From: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP)
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Subject: Re: UDP report card
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Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 09:58:28 GMT
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In article <CMGMss.KH@aston.ac.uk> of comp.os.linux.development,
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evansmp@mb48026.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans) writes:
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>
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> It is a common problem, 127.0.0.2 can be even more dangerous, quite a few
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> machines only have 127.0.0.1 rather than 127.0.0.0 as a route to loopback.
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> Thus such an address can end up going through serveral machines, simply
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> being forwarded to default routes until it gets to a machine which accepts
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> it. In some instances telnet 127.0.0.2 will connect you to a (psudo-random)
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> machine somewhere on the internet.
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>
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I found that neither my Silicon Graphics host nor my Linux host
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answered correctly to 127.0.0.2. When I put in an explicit route to
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network 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 it correctly assigned it to the
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loopback interface and then connecting to 127.0.0.2 worked.
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Personally I find this use of a class A network for this purpose pretty
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ridiculous, but I can see where having multiple loopback addresses
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could be of use; 127.0.0.1 should then be the equivalent to the
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"outside" entrypoint. But a Class A? Give me a break.
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/hpa
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From: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP)
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Subject: Re: VT's must all use the same font [was Re: Loaded fonts discarded aft]
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Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 10:12:51 GMT
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In article <CMJzx9.CAz@cwi.nl> of comp.os.linux.development,
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aeb@cwi.nl (Andries Brouwer) writes:
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>
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> You asked this question before, and I answered it. Now you ask
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> it again, and the answer will be the same.
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> Several implementations of font loading code were floating around,
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> and I liked Crosser's version best, polished it a little and proposed
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> including it in the standard kernel, which Linus did.
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> [So, no behaviour was changed, but a choice was made.]
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>
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> Now should there be a separate font for each VT?
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> If everyone wants it, then yes. If many people want it, then
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> it should at least be a configuration option.
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> But there is a danger of pollution: there are many potentially
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> nice things, and at configuration time one could easily have
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> fifty keyboard/console-related questions.
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>
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> Separate fonts for each VT take a lot of memory, and are used
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> by relatively few Linux users, so cannot be the default, I think.
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>
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Two issues:
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1. I would assume support could be there; memory could me kmalloc()ed
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at load time if the font is loaded with the "set only this VT" option.
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Since the maximum size of a font is 32x256 = 8K, having two data block
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pointers/VT would do it. If set to NULL, use the global font.
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2. The EGA/VGA hardware supports 512-character fonts as well; you lose
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highlighting the foreground or blink (if you chose to lose the blink
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you have to force the CRTC into 8-column mode and invert the font,
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then swap foreground and background).
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Once my exams are over this quarter, I am going to look into this and
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a couple of other features I have been thinking about.
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>
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> Of course this is a kludge, but my vision of future development
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> is not one with a VT for English, one for Hebrew and one for Russian,
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> but Unicode on all VTs, so that you can mix all alphabets everywhere.
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> After 1.0.
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>
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>512 characters would require a graphical console.
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/hpa
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From: jean-paul@garion.it.com.au (Jean-Paul Chia)
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Subject: I'm looking for the Latest GCC and Libs
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Date: 12 Mar 1994 10:17:44 +0800
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Does anyone know what the latest version is? And where to get it?
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I'm usng 4.4.4 at the moment and 2.4.5 GCC.. And It's a bit old.. but
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it seems to run ok with the ALPHA-1.0 Kernel.. :) Ohwell
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Thanks..
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Please reply to jean-paul@garion.it.com.au
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JP
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