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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 94 21:13:07 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #103
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Linux-Development Digest #103, Volume #2 Thu, 1 Sep 94 21:13:07 EDT
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Contents:
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Why was ncp removed in 1.1.48? (Frank Lofaro)
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Re: IDE Hard Drives w/ over 1024 cylinders (Chris Wong)
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time speeds up (York Lam - ACPS/F93)
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re: Got the bastard! (david kelly)
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1.1.49 trouble (JL Gomez)
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Re: Future of linux -- the sequel (Larry Pyeatt)
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Re: Linux - my first impressions (Bao Chau Ha)
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Re: SERIAL BUG! getty_ps/Linux 1.09/Rockwell modems (Clayton Haapala)
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Re: svgalib can't open /dev/mem w/1.1.47 (-Michael P. Lindner)
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Re: Kernel change summary 1.1.45 -> 1.1.46 (Marc Fraioli)
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Re: Future of Linux (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
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Re: Threads for Linux (Marc Fraioli)
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Re: What on earth is happening to the stabilit (Marc Fraioli)
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From: ftlofaro@unlv.edu (Frank Lofaro)
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Subject: Why was ncp removed in 1.1.48?
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 94 05:58:48 GMT
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Why was NCP removed in 1.1.48?
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Too alpha to end up in 1.2.0, or did Novell threaten to sue? :(
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(Not that I persoanlly need it, far from it, but I want to know if
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Linux is being threatened by the Novell Empire or whether it is something
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less sinister.
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From: chris@helser54.res.iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
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Subject: Re: IDE Hard Drives w/ over 1024 cylinders
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Date: 1 Sep 1994 14:57:15 GMT
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In article <9408311222.AA04832@redbird.umsl.edu> matthew@redbird.umsl.edu
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(Matthew Feldt) writes:
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> I recently purchased a Western Digital 540mg hard drive on which I
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installed
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> Linux on to a partition of.
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> Since I partitioned up the disk DOS doesn't care about the number of
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cylinders
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> but while installing Linux I kept getting the following warning:
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> "The nuber of cylinders for this disk is set to 1048.
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> This is larger than 1024 and may cause problems with some software."
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I have a similiar problem.
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I turned on the IDE (WD-1003/ST-506) emulation mode of my DPT SCSI card so
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that I can install Slackware 2.0 and patch the kernel to include the alpha
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SCSI driver for EATA card. However, when boot up Slackware 2.0 boot disk,
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it gave me the following message.
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hd.c: ST-506 interface disk with more than 16 heads detected,
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probably due to non-standard sector translation. Giving up.
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(disk 0; cyl=950, sect=32, head=64)
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The cylinders, sectors, heads, are whatever I enter into CMOS setup. My
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harddrive is a Micropolis 2112 with logical disk geometry 1001 cyl x 64
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heads x 32 sec/track. I enter 950 cylinders into CMOS just to avoid
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confusing fdisk. However, it didn't work either, whether it's over 1000
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cylinders or not.
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fdisk just gave me "Unable to access /dev/hda".
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The physical disk geometry is 1744 cyl x 15 heads x VAR sec/trk.
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Anyone has any idea why Slackware gives me that message? Is it an error
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message?
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Thanks in advance for helping get into the Linux community.
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Chris
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From: ylam@acs.ryerson.ca (York Lam - ACPS/F93)
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Subject: time speeds up
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Date: 1 Sep 1994 14:49:54 GMT
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Has anyone experienced the clock running abnormally fast? I set the correct
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time, have had the system up for 1 week or so and the time is now almost
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15 mins fast. I gain about 2 mins a day for no apparent reason. This has
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been happening with kernel versions going way back (pre-0.99.10), I've
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reported this before but didn't get any response. Is this only happening
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to me? I'm running 1.1.48 but I don't expect patch49 to have a fix. Is
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there something obvious that I've overlooked? BTW, as a check, the system
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has recently sat at the MSDOS prompt for over 4 days and *lost* only 1 sec.
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The board is a 386-40/256k cache/387 with 32M. This has been happening with
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1 IDE drive, ATIXL card, and simple multi-io. Now the equipment connected
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are 2 IDE drives, ATI Ultra card, 4-16550 card. Still nothing out of the
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ordinary as far as I can tell. I'll have to do some deep digging this
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weekend. I'm getting fed up having to adjust the clock so often (I know
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there're services for dialin date/time retrieival but that's not the point).
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A side question: In the kernel sources, what's the "HZ" constant for? Any
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chance this could be the culprit?
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| York Lam <-=-> ylam@acs.ryerson.ca | It's only fun until someone loses |
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======================================| an eye... then it's fun for one |
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| ( free-space ) | less person, and NOW it becomes |
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| | a sport! |
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From: dkelly@nebula.tbe.com (david kelly)
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Subject: re: Got the bastard!
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Date: 1 Sep 1994 17:27:01 -0400
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Reply-To: dkelly@nebula.tbe.com (david kelly)
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Christopher Cason writes:
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| The culprit ? A WD8013-based ethernet card. Why ? I have no idea. When the
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| card is in the machine, the corruption happens clearly every time. (My test
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| is to mkfs a clean FS, mount it, and copy a 30mB file then do a cmp). When
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| it's out, it doesn't. And the FS gets clobbered every time it happens.
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Any chance both your SCSI card and Ethernet cards are bus mastering cards
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in an ISA chasis? I understand that multiple bus masters from differing
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vendors is a big no-no. The manual from my Novell-Eagle NE-2100 doesn't
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even permit multiple NE-2100's in the same machine. Then again, this may
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not apply to Linux.
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I know enough of the ISA bus to be dangerous. It would appear that multiple
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bus masters should work as bus access is arbitrated thru the DMA controller.
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Maybe someone could address this issue?
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David Kelly, N4HHE
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dkelly@nebula.tbe.com
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From: kitana!sysop@caprica.com (JL Gomez)
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Subject: 1.1.49 trouble
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Date: 31 Aug 1994 18:36:20 -0500
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My 1.1.49 kernel panics when doing heavy I/O.
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Here is relevant syslog entries:
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Aug 30 22:05:29 kitana kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer
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dereference at virtual address c0000834
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Aug 30 22:05:29 kitana kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 00654000, Xr3 = 00654000
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Aug 30 22:05:29 kitana kernel: *pde = 00102027
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Aug 30 22:05:29 kitana kernel: *pte = 00000027
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<INN stuff deleted>
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Aug 31 14:38:46 kitana kernel: Kernel panic: EXT2-fs panic (device 8/19):
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ext2_read_inode: unable to read i-node block
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Here is my 'dmesg' output:
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Console: mono EGA+ 80x25, 8 virtual consoles
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Serial driver version 4.00 with no serial options enabled
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tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
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tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
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Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 16.61 BogoMips
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Configuring Adaptec at IO:330, IRQ 11, DMA priority 5
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scsi0 : Adaptec 1542
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scsi : 1 hosts.
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Vendor: HP Model: D1699-60001 Rev: 5732
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Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
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Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, id 0, lun 0
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Vendor: DEC Model: DSP3107LS Rev: X441
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Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
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Detected scsi disk sdb at scsi0, id 1, lun 0
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Vendor: LMS Model: CM214 Rev: 0.11
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Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 01 CCS
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Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, id 2, lun 0
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Vendor: TANDBERG Model: TDC 3600 Rev: =08:
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Type: Sequential-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
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Detected scsi tape st0 at scsi0, id 6, lun 0
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scsi : detected 1 SCSI tape 1 SCSI cdrom 2 SCSI disks total.
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Scd sectorsize = 2048 bytes
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Memory: 14988k/16384k available (588k kernel code, 384k reserved, 424k data)
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This processor honours the WP bit even when in supervisor mode. Good.
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Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
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FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
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Swansea University Computer Society NET3.016
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NET3 TCP/IP protocols stack v016
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IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
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Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok.
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Linux version 1.1.49 (root@kitana) (gcc version 2.5.8) #1
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Tue Aug 30 01:23:30 PDT 1994
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Partition check:
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sda: sda1 sda2 sda3
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sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3
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VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
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Adding Swap: 17388k swap-space
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Max size:326341 Log zone size:2048
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First datazone:72 Root inode number 73728
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ISO9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
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I've been reading threads about heavy file I/O being flakey. I've had this
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problem since 1.1.39.
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--
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sysop@kitana.org
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From: pyeatt@CS.ColoState.EDU (Larry Pyeatt)
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Subject: Re: Future of linux -- the sequel
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Date: 1 Sep 1994 18:28:21 GMT
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In article <CvGnDw.I0C@world.std.com>, entropy@world.std.com (Lawrence Foard) writes:
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|>
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|> Why should I pay 5 times more for a non PC system which gives me the same
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|> performance as a 486 100?
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What? I was unaware that any company was still making such slow
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machines. You can get a VL bus motherboard with MIPS R4600 processor
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that makes Pentium look like a 4.77 8086. Why waste money on such
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a junky architecture as Intel when there are good processors available.
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|> When there are enough non PC users to port
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|> Linux to other platforms it will get ported. Why do you expect
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|> PC users to spend $10K for a workstation so they can spend time porting
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|> Linux to it? Its up to the people who own those systems to put in the
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|> effort, don't expect someone to do it for you. (If you have all that
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|> extra money to throw around why not pay somone to port it?)
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Compare the price/performance of processors and Intel comes out to
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make the worst processors in existence. PowerPC chips provide twice
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the performance of Pentium at half the cost. That means they are
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4 times as good. PowerPC is considered slow compared to some other
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processors on the market. For myself, I am just trying to decide
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which non-Intel motherboard to get. They do not cost anywhere near
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$10K.
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Larry D. Pyeatt All standard disclaimers apply.
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pyeatt@cs.colostate.edu Void where prohibited.
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From: habaoch@eng.auburn.edu (Bao Chau Ha)
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Subject: Re: Linux - my first impressions
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 14:21:04 GMT
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In article <34447i$ksa@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> wosch@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (olav woelfelschneider) writes:
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>Owen Lynn (lynn@magneto.physics.auburn.edu) wrote:
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>: Hi folks!
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>[..lotsa deleted..]
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>: The way you reconfigure the kernel, however is radically different to
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>: how you do it under 4.1.3. Instead of modifying a config file, you
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>: run a shell script which asks you a bunch of questions. Ok, simple
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>: enough, and then it gets more familiar - setting dependencies and
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>: cranking the new kernel out. You copy it to the root dir, and name
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>: it vmlinuz (sounds oddly 4.1.3ish). Then it gets odd again - you have
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>: you reinstall lilo. Easy enough, but wierd. I guess it's probably to
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>: make up for some deficiency in PC hardware design.
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>About re-installing lilo:
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>I've an old 3/50, and did some 4.1.1 kernel remakes there. Each time /vmunix
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>changed, some program has to be run to inform the bootloader about the
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>track/sector/head location of the new kernel. The same is true for linux and
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>lilo.
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make zlilo will do all of the following:
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1. make zImage
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2. mv zImage /vmlinuz
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3. lilo
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I think that is what you mean, and it is already available. Time for
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RTFM I guess.
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Bao
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From: clay@haapi.mn.org (Clayton Haapala)
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Subject: Re: SERIAL BUG! getty_ps/Linux 1.09/Rockwell modems
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 14:00:19 GMT
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In article <33snlr$afl@calvin.iaf.nl>,
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Jeanette Pauline Middelink <middelin@calvin.iaf.nl> wrote:
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>Matt Warnock (mwarnock@garlic.com) wrote:
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>[text deleted]
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>Since the patch, i used getty_ps on the 2 lines of our UUCP backbone.
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>This site gets over 3400 calls a month, and is running for almost 6
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>months now... I would say 'my problem is solved :)'
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Which version of the kernel are you running?
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The behavior of getty_ps when dialing-out/exiting/reinitting the modem changed
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(I believe) with the advent of the new serial drivers in 1.1.13?-18. After
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a uucico or cu exits, uugetty does not get triggered to re-init the modem
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reliably. For me, it does answer the phone and all that, but if a prior
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dial-out turned off ATS0=1, well, it's all over.
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Something must be different when DTR toggles, but I can't even speculate
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what.
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--
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Clay Haapala "Well, there was the process of sitting around
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clay@haapi.mn.org and wishing I had more computer stuff."
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-- Dilbert
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: mpl@pegasus.bl-els.att.com (-Michael P. Lindner)
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Subject: Re: svgalib can't open /dev/mem w/1.1.47
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 21:44:57 GMT
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In article <1994Sep1.032955.3268@princeton.edu>,
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Louis P. Kruger <lpkruger@tucson.princeton.edu> wrote:
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>In article <CvF5B4.Fq4@nntpa.cb.att.com>,
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>I noticed this too. It appears to be a bug in the kernel when the setreuid()
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>system call is invoked with a paremeter of -1. Sasteriods among other programs
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>use this to preserve superuser status (which svgalib automacially relinquishes)
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>The following patch to kernel/sys.c seems to fix the problem.
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> - Louis
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WOW! <6 hour turn around for a kernel fix! I hope commercial UN*X
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vendors take note. Thanks!
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--
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Mike Lindner
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mikel@attmail.att.com
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From: mjf@clark.net (Marc Fraioli)
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Subject: Re: Kernel change summary 1.1.45 -> 1.1.46
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Date: 31 Aug 1994 23:46:26 GMT
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Reply-To: mjf@clark.net
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In article 778359874@cs.cornell.edu, nelson@crynwr.crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) writes:
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> - New file attributes:
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> - Immutable files cannot be modified. Data cannot be written to
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> these files. They cannot be removed, renamed and new links cannot
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> be created. Even root cannot modify the files. He has to remove
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> the immutable attribute first.
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> - Append-only files: can only be written in append-mode when writing.
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> They cannot be removed, renamed and new links cannot be created.
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> Note: files may only be added to an append-only directory.
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Very cool. Do these work the same way as in BSD 4.4? How can we access
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these new features? I seem to remember reading that under BSD the immutable
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files can only be modified in single-user mode. Is it necessary to be in
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single-user to remove the immutable attribute as mentioned above? I think
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this would probably be a good idea. Thoughts?
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---
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Marc Fraioli | "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist- "
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mjf@clark.net | - Last words of Union General John Sedgwick,
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| Battle of Spotsylvania Court House, U.S. Civil War
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From: mah@ka4ybr.com (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
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Subject: Re: Future of Linux
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 11:34:59 GMT
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Mike Suzio (msuzio@tiamat.umd.umich.edu) wrote:
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: But given a choice of tools, isn't it best for a user to be able to access
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: the tool that will make her most comfortable and let her get her work done?
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: This is all I'm getting at, that it couldn't hurt Linux if it had *many*
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: text editors, word processors, spreadsheets, etc. Just because emacs
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: exists does not mean all development on other text editors should cease.
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: (Not picking on emacs in particular, just find it the best example in these
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: cases).
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: - Mike
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Sure! I've given up trying to convert the average user.... if they
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are comfortable with Lotus 123 and WordPerfect 5|5.1|5.2|6.0 or
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Word, or whatever, let the have them. If we don't have the same
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tool available on Linux and it won't run in dosemu or iBCS, let
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them be... you know what they say about trying to teach a pig
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to sing.... :) You can, however, install one of the PD NFS
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clients to link their PCs to your Linux Host for file backup,
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security, program and data storage, etc.
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As Linux gains in popularity (check out the number of articles now
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appearing about it!), those vendors intelligent enough to take
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advantage of a developing market will make their products available
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on Linux platforms also. There is no need for us to reinvent the
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wheel, so to speak. One commercial product that is available now
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and is very good (particularly at the DOS business target) is the
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Flagship Database development system. This allows you to develop
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and port your xBASE and Clipper applications to Linux (native!)
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with all the wonderful tools and functions you're used to in the
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equivalent DOS products with the advantage of being multi-user,
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supporting the PC console as well as X-terminals and regular
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dumb terminals, and generating good solid sellable applications.
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It's not free; but they do have a special introductory offer for
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Linux users as a trial balloon... you can bet other vendors are
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watching! You don't need the manual (built in help screens,
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etc.) but it's handy to have. There's even a free demo version
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available via ftp. If things like this keep being ported to
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Linux native and we support them with our $$$ rather than wanting
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the world but not being willing to pay for it (waiting until
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the ubiquitous "someone" develops it for Linux) I think we'll see
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these products appearing. Of course, they will cost money, just
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like their DOS counterparts.... I think sometimes we've gotten
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so spoiled by "free" software that we are worse than the MS-DOS
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"pirates" who trade copies of Lotus and WP around instead of
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buying their own! (I'm gonna get flamed for that one, aren't I?
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Just a couple of cents worth...
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- Mark
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--
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"Linux! Guerrilla UNIX Development Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus."
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Mark A. Horton ka4ybr mah@ka4ybr.atl.ga.us
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P.O. Box 747 Decatur GA US 30031-0747 mah@ka4ybr.com
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+1.404.371.0291 33 45 31 N / 084 16 59 W
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From: mjf@clark.net (Marc Fraioli)
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Subject: Re: Threads for Linux
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Date: 1 Sep 1994 00:07:31 GMT
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Reply-To: mjf@clark.net
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In article jtj@vega.info.isbiel.ch, droux@info.isbiel.ch (Nicolas Droux) writes:
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>Hi there,
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>I need to be able to create threads, or lightweight processes, under
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>Linux. Is there a good solution to this problem ? Is this feature
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>integrated in a recent release of the kernel, is it planned, or is it
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>possible to do this by means of a 3rd party package ?
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There are at least two freely available user-level thread packages for
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Linux available. Kernel threads are being talked over/worked on, but
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are not available yet. Here's an older posting pointing to the user-level
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ones.
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From lan_lada@aaf.alcatel.at (Marino Ladavac)
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Subject: Re: Porting libpthreads to Linux?
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Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 08:21:31 GMT
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Since the original author has a French address, the better site for Linux
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pthreads library would be
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ftp://ftp.ibp.fr/pub/unix/threads/pthreads
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The Florida State threads can be found on the same site at
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ftp://ftp.ibp.fr/pub/unix/threads/part
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There is also at least one project dealing with kernel pthread implementation under
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way. Please contact me if you are interested.
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Hope it helped,
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/Alby
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Proof by Intimidation:
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"I'm bigger, therefore I'm right."
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From gale@minotaur.dra.hmg.gb (Tony Gale)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.kernel
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Subject: Re: Porting libpthreads to Linux?
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Date: 24 Jun 1994 09:14:25 GMT
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Yves Arrouye (arrouye@petole.imag.fr) wrote:
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: Hello,
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: I would like to port Mueller et al.'s libpthreads (ftp.cs.fsu.edu:/pub/PART/)
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: to Linux, but I am having a lot of problems because I really do not know where
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: to find the information I need.
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: Did someone do the port? If so, where can I find it? If not, does
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: someone volonteer to help me? The informations I need are relative to the
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There is a different implementaion of pthreads that should compile
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out of the box on Linux at:
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rtfm.mit.edu /pub/pthreads
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| Tony Gale | Stop whinging and start Wine'ing |
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| All opinions expressed are my own |
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Hope one of these works out for you.
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Marc Fraioli | "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist- "
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mjf@clark.net | - Last words of Union General John Sedgwick,
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From: mjf@clark.net (Marc Fraioli)
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Subject: Re: What on earth is happening to the stabilit
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Date: 1 Sep 1994 00:12:22 GMT
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Reply-To: mjf@clark.net
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In article 4968@ritz.equinox.gen.nz, grantma@ritz.equinox.gen.nz (Matthew Grant) writes:
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>I have used Linux for over a year now, an di am am getting concerned about
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>the stability of the new ALPHA realeases. On question I would like to ask
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>in the light of all the recent problems with 1.1.40 -> is:
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>Are the older problems solved and just new ones appearing, or is the
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> situation getting worse?
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>I would like to know as Linux's kernel stability has been legendary, with
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>only a few minor hiccups.
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Well, I've been running 1.1.47 for about a week now without any trouble.
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I've used SLIP, PPP, iBCS, WINE, X, and a bunch of other stuff fairly
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heavily, and no problems. So not everyone is having trouble. It depends
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on what hardware you have, no doubt. Mine is a plain-jane 486/33 w. 8MB,
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AMI BIOS, and two IDE hard drives. Solid as a rock.
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Marc Fraioli | "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist- "
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mjf@clark.net | - Last words of Union General John Sedgwick,
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