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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Mon, 5 Sep 94 05:13:18 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #121
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Linux-Development Digest #121, Volume #2 Mon, 5 Sep 94 05:13:18 EDT
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Contents:
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organization of loadable modules in kernel sources (Larry Augustin)
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Re: Wheres blkdev.h?? (compiling 1.1.49) (Mike Lilie)
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Re: MATROX PCI Graphics board supported ?? (Mark West)
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Re: Linux and Novel Print server? (Andrew Anderson)
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Re: Installation, Support, Testing [Was: Future of Linux] (Michael Dillon)
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Re: Future of Linux (Michael Dillon)
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Re: Acid (Michael Dillon)
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Re: BOOTPD / newer kernels, BUG? (Christian Holtje)
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Pioneer CDROM Jukebox (cmattern@ronin.mindspring.com)
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Re: Linux and Novel Print server? (cmattern@ronin.mindspring.com)
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Linux on Fosa laptops? (Zack T. Smith)
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Re: Linux on Fosa laptops? (Tracy R. Reed)
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Patch: ftape-1.13b w/kernel 1.1.49
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Re: test (Jim Williams)
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Re: polled ports (Bruce Evans)
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Re: Future of linux -- the sequel (Erik Fortune)
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Re: floppy problems in 1.1.49 (Doug Nicholson)
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From: lma@dayton.Stanford.EDU (Larry Augustin)
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Subject: organization of loadable modules in kernel sources
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Date: 5 Sep 94 03:07:56 GMT
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Currently linux/modules/*.o are symlinks to ../drivers/net/*.o. This
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means that the .o files in linux/modules may not necessarily be
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loadable modules depending on how you configured the kernel. I build
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kernels for a lot of different machines, and this has bitten me on
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several occasions.
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I found it useful to make the following changes to guarantee that
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linux/modules actually contains modules.
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1. mkdir linux/modules/net.
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2. cd linux/modules/net
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3. ln -s ../../drivers/net/Makefile ../../drivers/net/*.{c,h} .
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(*.h, *.c is overkill, but it's fast to type)
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4. change the modules target in ../../drivers/net/Makefile as follows
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modules:
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echo $(MODULES) > ../../modules/net/NET_MODULES
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(cd ../../modules/net;$(MAKE) CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS) -DMODULE" $(MODULES))
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The idea is pretty simple. Source files in modules/net are symlinked
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to source files in drivers/net. The files in drivers/net may or may
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not be compiled with -DMODULE depending on the configuration. The
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files in modules/net are always compiled with -DMODULE.
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While I'm on the subject, another thing on my wish list would be
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support for building multiple kernels from multiple config files as in
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BSD. (I know this has been done by people in the past, but it sure
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would be nice to see it propagate into the standard kernel.)
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Regards,
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Larry
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From: mike@menkar.ftlsw.telematics.com (Mike Lilie)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: Wheres blkdev.h?? (compiling 1.1.49)
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Date: 5 Sep 1994 04:00:21 GMT
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In article <CvL0JI.G2F@dorsai.org>, Carlos Dominguez <Carlos Dominguez> wrote:
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>I got the 1.1.45 kernel, applied all the patches sequentially from
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>46 to 49 to my 45 source tree, and whenever I do a make dep I always
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>get this.
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>
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>ksyms.c:13: linux/blkdev.h: No such file or directory
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If you look in /usr/src you'll probably find it along with the other
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files that have been added since 1.1.45. It seems that patch doesn't
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know where to put new files without the -p0 option.
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From: mwest@kalman.newcastle.edu.au (Mark West)
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Subject: Re: MATROX PCI Graphics board supported ??
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Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 03:45:42 GMT
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Harald von Fellenberg +41-1-801-3578 DTN 760-3578 (harald@zuunix.zuo.dec.com) wrote:
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: Is anybody working on the MATROX PCI graphics board support? Or how can it be
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: configured using default parameters? I have not found any indication about the
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: board in XFree86-2.1.1...
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: thanks!
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: Harald von Fellenberg
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: Senior Technology Consultant
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: DEC Digital Equipment Corp. AG
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: CH-8600 Dubendorf, Switzerland
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: hvf@zuo.dec.com
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: "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas"
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I would like this information as well.
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Thanks
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Mark West
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Research Engineer
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CICS University Of Newcastle
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Australia.
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mwest@ee.newcastle.edu.au
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From: andrew@amelia.db.erau.edu (Andrew Anderson)
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Subject: Re: Linux and Novel Print server?
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Date: 4 Sep 1994 03:53:40 GMT
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root (fnrjh@dev103.elmer.alaska.edu) wrote:
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: I know this is most likly not possible. What I want to do is find
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: a way I can print to my novel print server? How would
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: I do that? Any suggestions. Robert
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: fnrjh@dev103.elmer.alaska.edu
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There are a set of NLMs out there called (suprise!) LPR.NLM and LPD.NLM,
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that will allow *nix hosts to print to Netware print queues, and Netware
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to print to *nix printers. I've only tested the lpd.nlm, and it looks
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good. I think it's $75 to register one, and $100 or $125 to register
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both.
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--
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|===========================================================================|
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| Andrew Anderson andrew@db.erau.edu |
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| Novell Network System Administrator "Making the impossible |
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| Linux System Administrator possible -- daily!" |
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| I don't speak for ERAU, and God knows I don't want them to speak for me! |
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|===========================================================================|
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From: mpdillon@halcyon.com (Michael Dillon)
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Subject: Re: Installation, Support, Testing [Was: Future of Linux]
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Date: Sat, 03 Sep 1994 21:13:58 +0000
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> Binary distributions:
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> Surf as above. Locate binary distribution for your machine,
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> with the right combination of compile-time switches for
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> debugging, security, SOCKS, term, etc. Hope it's got a PGP
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> signature from somebody you know.
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> Install in /usr/local, send mail to your local consituency
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> telling them about the new app and where the documentation
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> lives.
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>
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> Support: FAQ, email, USENET, plus perhaps evolving online
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> documentation via WWW.
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you forgot: OOPS, need to get the source distribution for DOCS so
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hunt around the net some more for the docs that match
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your binary version. :-(
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> For binaries, you can install them on a :
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> per-user basis, in ~/...
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> per-group basis, in /some/dir/shared/by/the/group
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> per-host basis, in /usr/local (or /opt, or ...)
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> per-site basis, in /some/nfs/exported/dir
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> or /some/afs/exported/dir
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It would help if programs would keep their binaries and files
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in one directory rather than scattered all over the place.
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> The applications should support online hypertext help,
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> (how do we integrate this with man/whatis?)
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Right now, man will run nroff as needed to format document
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sources into viewable docs. If we adopted HTML as the standard
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source document format, then man could simply be replaced
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by lynx. It may even be possible to build some scripting tools
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that convert an nroff source document into an HTML document
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with some links to follow up the "SEE ALSO" section as well
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as internal links so that a man page starts with a useage line
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followed by a row of links for all the subheadings like
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"OPTIONS" "BUGS" "SEE ALSO". It could even have links
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to the relevant support newsgroups and email links to the authors.
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There is lots of interesting stuff that you can do with HTML
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and it is supported by both text browsers "lynx" and X browsers "Mosaic".
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> with some FAQ, and a pointer to the home of the up-to-date FAQ,
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> and an automated problem reporting facility that searches
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> out the relavent configuration information, recent errors,
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> etc., and allows the user to edit a description. The problem
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> gets mailed to the relavent developers and/or mailing lists.
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Yep. HTML forms and email support as in Mosaic and Lynx 2.4, I believe.
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cruisin' down the information highway, lookin' for a blast
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breakin' all the speed limits as I come zoomin' past!
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--
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Michael Dillon Internet: mpdillon@halcyon.halcyon.com
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C-4 Powerhouse Fidonet: 1:353/350
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RR #2 Armstrong, BC V0E 1B0 Voice: +1-604-546-8022
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Canada BBS: +1-604-546-2705
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From: mpdillon@halcyon.com (Michael Dillon)
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Subject: Re: Future of Linux
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Date: Sat, 03 Sep 1994 21:29:24 +0000
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> (Like a Linux box running some dumb terminals off a multi-port card or two... an
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> easy sell to the guy contemplating Novell plus the cost of a bunch of PCs and wiring
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> and all the other mess that goes with Netware!)
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I would like to point out that when I was starting out in the consulting/
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custom software business (i.e. no established reputation) we used to
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win jobs because we had a better price since we were using SCO Xenix
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and dumb terminals while the other guys were flogging Novell
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file servers and a bunch of PC workstations. Dumb terminals such
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as the ubiquitous Wyse 60 and Wyse 150 models are STILL cheaper than
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PC workstations and will do 90% of the work most businesses really
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need (i.e. data entry, number crunching, reporting). If I was starting
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out today, Linux and a product like flagship are DEFINITELY the way
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I would go.
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cruisin' down the information highway, lookin' for a blast
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breakin' all the speed limits as I come zoomin' past!
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--
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Michael Dillon Internet: mpdillon@halcyon.halcyon.com
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C-4 Powerhouse Fidonet: 1:353/350
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RR #2 Armstrong, BC V0E 1B0 Voice: +1-604-546-8022
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Canada BBS: +1-604-546-2705
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From: mpdillon@halcyon.com (Michael Dillon)
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Subject: Re: Acid
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Date: Sat, 03 Sep 1994 21:35:48 +0000
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> Again, "truly internationalized" is something that will take a while in
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> any OS. Can you think of ANY OS or app that will allow you to write from
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> left to right(English & most European languages), right to left(Hebrew) AND
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> top to bottom from the left to right (Chinese), all in the same document?
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Yep, two. One is NAPLPS which is an ANSI/CSA/ISO standard for representing
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graphics and text that was originally developped for TV videotext but is
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now used in distance education (with Thai, and Inuktitut and Korean
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and Chinese), and by BBSes (Lakota Sioux, Japanese, Cyrillic).
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The other one is Postscript although I'm not sure that there is any
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frontend application or very many fonts that let you access the full
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power of Postscript for this kind of thing.
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cruisin' down the information highway, lookin' for a blast
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breakin' all the speed limits as I come zoomin' past!
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--
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Michael Dillon Internet: mpdillon@halcyon.halcyon.com
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C-4 Powerhouse Fidonet: 1:353/350
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RR #2 Armstrong, BC V0E 1B0 Voice: +1-604-546-8022
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Canada BBS: +1-604-546-2705
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From: choltje@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Christian Holtje)
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Subject: Re: BOOTPD / newer kernels, BUG?
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Date: 5 Sep 1994 05:06:03 GMT
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James MacLean (jmaclean@localhost) wrote:
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: Thomas Ziegler (zie@lte.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de) wrote:
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: : I have problems with bootpd and the newer kernels (booting clients throug net).
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: : With stock 1.1 everything works like it should, but with 1.1.29 and 1.1.45 (I
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: : don't compile every patch version) bootpd fails. Here are the errormessages:
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Ummmm....anyone know where to get a version of the bootpc that works?
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-Doc
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--
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--- --- --- - - - - --- ----- docwhat@uiuc.edu
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+ - + - + + + - + - + - CS major at Illinois
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* + * + * * + * +*+* +*+*+ * --- finger me at ---
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**** *** *** ** ** * * * * * choltje@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: cmattern@ronin.mindspring.com
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Subject: Pioneer CDROM Jukebox
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Date: 4 Sep 1994 20:39:30 -0400
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Reply-To: cmattern@mindspring.com
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Is anyone aware of a driver for the Pioneer DRM-6xx series of CD Juke
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boxes? As I understand it the device is SCSI compliant and appears as a
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single SCSI device on the bus with 6 logical units.
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Would it be possible to just use mknod to set up appropriate device
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files?
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Any info would be appreciated.
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--
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===================================================================
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|Chuck Mattern | "Not failure, but low aim, is crime." |
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|cmattern@mindspring.com | -James Russell Lowell- |
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===================================================================
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From: cmattern@ronin.mindspring.com
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Subject: Re: Linux and Novel Print server?
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Date: 4 Sep 1994 20:45:19 -0400
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Reply-To: cmattern@mindspring.com
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LemurBoy (jason@job.cba.ua.edu) wrote:
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: root (fnrjh@dev103.elmer.alaska.edu) wrote:
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: : I know this is most likly not possible. What I want to do is find
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: : a way I can print to my novel print server? How would
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: : I do that? Any suggestions. Robert
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: : fnrjh@dev103.elmer.alaska.edu
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: Actually it's quite easy. I'll post this publically for all those
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: who might be interested.
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: Get hold of an NLM called iQueue. It can be found under the
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: name lpdnlm.zip on many host about the internet.
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: It implements the Berkeley LPD protocol in an NLM which allows you
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: to remotely place jobs in netware queues, manage those queues, and export
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: queues to other remote LPDs.
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: It's a nice piece of shareware that works well with anything that
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: speaks lpd. BTW, if you're running the unregistered version it will
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: automatically unload itself after one hour. Annoying, but more than enough
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: time to try it out.
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: I plan to register mine soon.
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If I might be so bold...
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What is the registration fee?
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--
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===================================================================
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|Chuck Mattern | "Not failure, but low aim, is crime." |
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|cmattern@mindspring.com | -James Russell Lowell- |
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===================================================================
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: zack@netcom.com (Zack T. Smith)
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Subject: Linux on Fosa laptops?
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Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 04:15:09 GMT
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Hello,
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I'm looking for any info on whether Linux runneth on the
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Fosa DX2/66 or DX4/100 laptops.
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Anyone had experience running Linux w/these machines?
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Thanks in advance-
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Zack Smith
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PS: Is there any sort of centralized repository for compaitibility
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with various laptops? I recently install slackware Linux on a
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Toshiba 1910 and I'd be glad to donate a summary of my experiences
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if such a repository/document exists.
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From: treed@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Tracy R. Reed)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: Linux on Fosa laptops?
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Date: 4 Sep 1994 05:32:22 GMT
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Zack T. Smith (zack@netcom.com) wrote:
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: Hello,
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: I'm looking for any info on whether Linux runneth on the
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: Fosa DX2/66 or DX4/100 laptops.
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My Linux runneth over...
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=============================================================================
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Mr. Tracy Reed |Every artist is a cannibal.|Two Betazoids walk into
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San Diego State Univ. |Every poet is a thief. | a bar.
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Aerospace Engineering |All kill their inspiration |
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treed@ucssun1.sdsu.edu |And sing about their grief.|One says,
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treed@tbn-bbs.com |-U2 IRC-Maelcum /me smiles | "I'll have the same."
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=============================================================================
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From: hacsc218@huey.csun.edu ()
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Patch: ftape-1.13b w/kernel 1.1.49
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Date: 5 Sep 1994 07:46:32 GMT
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Several people have posted about using ftape 1.13b with newer kernels.
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Gary Foster posted a patch for compatibility with kernels in the 1.1.45
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range. For patchlevel 1.1.49, there is a new incompatibility: the
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declaration of the request_dma function has been changed somewhere
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between 1.1.45 and 1.1.49:
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/usr/include/asm# grep "request_dma" dma.*
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dma.h:extern int request_dma(unsigned int dmanr, char * deviceID);
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/* reserve a DMA channel */
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dma.h.orig:extern int request_dma(unsigned int dmanr);
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/* reserve a DMA channel */
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The device ID is the string "ftape". With this change (line 954 of
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fdc_io.c), ftape-1.13b compiled and, much to my astonishment, worked.
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Apply this patch to ftape-1.13b for use with the 1.1.49 kernel. This
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patch includes the one Gary Foster supplied. Apply it directly to the
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ftape-1.13b distribution. It's in gzip/uuencode because the lines were
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as long as 80 characters and I didn't want it to get mangled. And besides,
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it's a lot shorter that way.
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hacsc218@huey.csun.edu / MikeIngle@delphi.com
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begin 644 ftape.patch.gz
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From: jim@199.86.32.8 (Jim Williams)
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Subject: Re: test
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Date: 4 Sep 1994 16:11:12 GMT
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Ok were should the getty defaults go now? I have always had mine in the
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etc/defaults?
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From: bde@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans)
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Subject: Re: polled ports
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Date: 5 Sep 1994 18:08:52 +1000
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In article <CvMKs5.3AK@pe1chl.ampr.org>, Rob Janssen <pe1chl@rabo.nl> wrote:
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>In <34chrk$1me@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> hpulley@uoguelph.ca (Harry C Pulley) writes:
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>>Are there any known improvements to the polling code? 1200 baud shouldn't be
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>>too fast...
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>
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>It polls 100 times per second, the timer-interrupt rate. So 1200 baud
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>is already slightly too fast for this mode.
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>It could be usable with 16550A chips, but they have other problems when
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>used with a mouse. Therefore they are disabled below 2400.
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The other problems don't apply if the port is polled. Therefore the
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16550 FIFOs shouldn't be disabled below 2400 if the port is polled.
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>It is better to listen to the rest of the world, and somehow move your
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>IRQs or use a board which can share IRQs.
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The rest of the world runs DOS and supplies boards which can't share
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IRQs. It would take me longer to buy an install new serial hardwar or
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to adapt old serial hardware than to adapt serial software. I run the
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timer interrupt at 200 Hz under FreeBSD so that 1200 polled works for a
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mouse.
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--
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Bruce Evans bde@kralizec.zeta.org.au
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From: erik@westworld.esd.sgi.com (Erik Fortune)
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Subject: Re: Future of linux -- the sequel
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Date: 5 Sep 1994 08:32:51 GMT
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In article <CvMKy4.3Bz@pe1chl.ampr.org>, rob@pe1chl.ampr.org writes:
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> BTW... there was a nice inside-story from within SGI posted on a
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> Linux group some time ago. It's unfortunate that I did not keep a copy...
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> It expressed quite a different opinion on the Indy...
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Yes, it's a pity you didn't keep a copy. The memo in question was complaining
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about the performance of the now obsolete IRIX 5.1 *not* the performance of
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the Indy itself. Quite some time ago, we released IRIX 5.2 which addresses
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nearly all of the performance complaints of the original (confidential!) memo.
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-- Erik
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From: tinamou@vega.cray.com (Doug Nicholson)
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Subject: Re: floppy problems in 1.1.49
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Date: 5 Sep 94 03:13:23 CDT
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Michael Callahan (callahan@maths.ox.ac.uk) wrote:
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[ ... some stuff deleted ... ]
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: Sep 2 04:58:18 darkstar kernel: VFS: Disk change detected on device 2/0
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: Sep 2 04:58:22 darkstar kernel: floppy: disk absent or changed during operationSep 2 04:58:22 darkstar kernel: floppy I/O error
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: Sep 2 04:58:22 darkstar kernel: dev 0200, sector 38
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[ ... more stuff deleted ... ]
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You're not the only one having problems, Mike.
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I get messages similar to the above when I boot from floppy and
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the kernel is copying the floppy to the ramdisk. This occurs
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with both 1.1.23 and 1.1.45 but not 1.0 or 1.0.9.
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Doug Nicholson
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tinamou@cray.com
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