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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Tue, 6 Sep 94 17:13:20 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #131
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Linux-Development Digest #131, Volume #2 Tue, 6 Sep 94 17:13:20 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Linux for DEC Alpha platform? (Andreas Busse)
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Re: Future of linux -- the sequel (Andreas Busse)
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Bug: in beta gcc & libc's? (4.6.x + gcc 2.6.x) (Byron Thomas Faber)
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Re: Looking for term2.x applications (Davor Jadrijevic)
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Re: SCSI-Scanner-Support? (Gregory Wettstein)
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Re: Future of linux -- the sequel (Larry Pyeatt)
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Re: Future of linux -- the sequel (Larry Pyeatt)
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Re: Any interest for DCF77 clock code? (Harald Koenig)
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Re: Future of linux -- the sequel (Larry Pyeatt)
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Re: clnttcp_create: RPC: Program not registered (Mark Fernyhough)
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Re: Future of linux -- the sequel (Larry Pyeatt)
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Re: Linux - my first impressions (Owen Lynn)
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Re: MATROX PCI Graphics board supported ?? (Harald Koenig)
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Re: XFree & CDROM slow down transfer rate (Harald Koenig)
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Re: IDE Hard Drives w/ over 1024 cylinders (Matthew Moss)
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From: andy@resi.waldorf-gmbh.de (Andreas Busse)
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Subject: Re: Linux for DEC Alpha platform?
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Date: 6 Sep 1994 12:37:10 GMT
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In article <33u1fh$9ej@bmerha64.bnr.ca>, Hamish.Macdonald@bnr.ca (Hamish Macdonald) writes:
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|> >>>>> On 29 Aug 1994 08:14:02 EST,
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|> >>>>> In message <33smuq$mkq@scotty.waldorf-gmbh.de>,
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|> >>>>> ralf@resi.waldorf-gmbh.de (Ralf Baechle) wrote:
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|>
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|> Ralf> Expect Linux to be available for all major CPU families in the
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|> Ralf> near future.
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|>
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|> Ralf, you and I both know that the big work in a Linux port is not so
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|> much the CPU specific stuff, but the device drivers.
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|>
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|> As such, only expect Linux to work on PC clones (powered by various
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|> ALPHA, x86, MIPS chips) in the *near* future.
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What's about all those dead-end DECstations 3100,5100 and even
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the Mips RC3xxx and RC4xxx boxes? The time when users of these
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systems will cry for Linux will come, don't you think so ?
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Andy
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===============================================================================
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Waldorf Electronics GmbH | Phone: +49 (0)2636-80294
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R&D Department | Fax: +49 (0)2636-80188
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Neustrasse 9-12, 53498 Waldorf, Germany | email: andy@waldorf-gmbh.de
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From: andy@resi.waldorf-gmbh.de (Andreas Busse)
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Subject: Re: Future of linux -- the sequel
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Date: 6 Sep 1994 12:41:51 GMT
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In article <3456g5$1ekr@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, pyeatt@CS.ColoState.EDU (Larry Pyeatt) writes:
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|>
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|> In article <CvGnDw.I0C@world.std.com>, entropy@world.std.com (Lawrence Foard) writes:
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|>
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|> Compare the price/performance of processors and Intel comes out to
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|> make the worst processors in existence. PowerPC chips provide twice
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|> the performance of Pentium at half the cost. That means they are
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|> 4 times as good. PowerPC is considered slow compared to some other
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|> processors on the market. For myself, I am just trying to decide
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|> which non-Intel motherboard to get. They do not cost anywhere near
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|> $10K.
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|> --
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|> Larry D. Pyeatt All standard disclaimers apply.
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|> pyeatt@cs.colostate.edu Void where prohibited.
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Right. And there are already MIPS R4600 boxes *with* HD, FD, video,
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monitor and 16Meg ram for under $4000.
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Andy
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===============================================================================
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Waldorf Electronics GmbH | Phone: +49 (0)2636-80294
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R&D Department | Fax: +49 (0)2636-80188
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Neustrasse 9-12, 53498 Waldorf, Germany | email: andy@waldorf-gmbh.de
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===============================================================================
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From: bf11620@ehsn20.cen.uiuc.edu (Byron Thomas Faber)
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Subject: Bug: in beta gcc & libc's? (4.6.x + gcc 2.6.x)
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Date: 6 Sep 1994 18:45:00 GMT
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Hello
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I'm posting this here because I can't seem to post to the GCC
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listserver. I'll figure it out sometime, but in the meantime I seem
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to have found a problem. Maybe its me.
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I installed gcc 2.6.x (the latest from tsx-11 private dir) and I also
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have gcc 2.5.8. This bug exists with either compiler.
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Anyway, when compiling svgalib (the newest version), I get a sig 11
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consistently on the file mem.S. It does not compile.
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I suspect this has something to do with the new 'as' that I installed
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(the one detailed in the release.libc 4.6.x that replaces binutils-1.0)
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If somebody out that could look at this, it might do us/me some good.
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Thanks,
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Byron Faber
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NOTE: regular users may ignore this message. It only applies to the new
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beta C libraries.
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--
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`Playing this disk at loud volume may permanently damage your speakers or
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other sound components.' -LFO
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b-faber@uiuc.edu & http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~bf11620/
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From: davj@ds5000.irb.hr (Davor Jadrijevic)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Re: Looking for term2.x applications
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Date: 6 Sep 1994 16:17:42 GMT
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Andrew Davison (davison@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au) wrote:
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: Perhaps I'm missing something important, but has anyone compiled any of
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: the major applications (Mosaic, ncftp...) for term 2.x (specifically
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: 2.0.4). If I try to run an app compiled for earlier term versions I get
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: the error "Connect: Invalid Argument".
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Strange; I run forbidden termtelnet on 2.0.4 still w/o problems,
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also Mosaic+term, ncftp, irc works. Apart from that, there are some
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bugs still in 2.0.4 dealing with receiving duplicate packets.
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: If nobody's done it yet, I might set aside some time to do it.
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That would be nice, especially to compile them with term shared libs.
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: Regards,
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: Andy
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Best regards, Davor.
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--
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<davor%emard.uucp@ds5000.irb.hr>, <davj@ds5000.irb.hr>
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================ Davor Jadrijevic ====================
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From: wettstei@badlands.NoDak.edu (Gregory Wettstein)
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Subject: Re: SCSI-Scanner-Support?
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Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 16:25:39 GMT
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In article <1994Sep5.220231.17117@excaliber.uucp>,
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Joel M. Hoffman <joel@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
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>In article <34fmf6$jrj@wmwap1.math.Uni-Wuppertal.DE> carl@wrcs1.urz.uni-wuppertal.DE (Uwe Carl) writes:
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>>[re scanners]
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>>Are there any Driver available?. I looked around and discovered
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>>nothing. Is there Documentation available ( TWAIN ???)
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>
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>Check the usual sites to see what's available.
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>
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Hopefully we will be getting closer to SCSI scanner support in the very
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near future. I currently have one of my development machines recognizing
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our Fujitsu scanner. I am cobbling together a basic read routine in
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whatever free minutes I can shake loose during the day.
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Someone mentioned that the generic SCSI device (sg) should be able to
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talk to any device which is recognized and hung on the device chain. I
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haven't had a chance to try this but the basic driver skeleton to
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accomplish this should now be in place.
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I will keep everyone posted as this develops.
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As always,
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Dr. G.W. Wettstein
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Oncology Research Division Computing Facility
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Roger Maris Cancer Center
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Fargo, ND 58122
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e-mail: wind!greg@plains.nodak.edu
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From: pyeatt@cervesa.cs.colostate.edu (Larry Pyeatt)
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Subject: Re: Future of linux -- the sequel
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Date: 6 Sep 1994 16:19:57 GMT
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In article <CvMKy4.3Bz@pe1chl.ampr.org>, rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) writes:
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|> In <34d4t0$2c22@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> pyeatt@cervesa.cs.colostate.edu (Larry Pyeatt) writes:
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|>
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|> >In article <348vsp$68c@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov>, becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov (Donald Becker) writes:
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|> >|> > $6400 minumum
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|> >|>
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|> >|> That's just way more than a reasonable Linux box will cost.
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|>
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|> >Define "reasonable." I defined reasonable to be "something similar to
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|> >SGI Indy. You can't get that sort of performance with cheap parts.
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|>
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|> Hey come on, he explained how all prices that added up to that $6400
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|> were way above current street-price for PC parts.
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Then maybe he should tell the guys that advertize in Computer Shopper that
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their prices are too high. 8) I explained that I wouldn't buy cut-rate,
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no-name parts.
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|> When you thing SGI is the only way to go, why bother with a Linux
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|> newsgroup?
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I never said SGI was the only way to go. I just said that Intel makes
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the worst processors available and it would be nice to have an alternative.
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I used MIPS R4600 as an example and all you people seem to think that the
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R4600 is somehow the same thing as an SGI Indy. Honestly, I would rather
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have an Alpha or PA-RISC processor than the MIPS processor. The point I
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am making is that a PC with a decent (read non-Intel) processor, running
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Linux would be a very powerful and affordable system.
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From: pyeatt@cervesa.cs.colostate.edu (Larry Pyeatt)
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Subject: Re: Future of linux -- the sequel
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Date: 6 Sep 1994 16:29:35 GMT
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In article <34esks$n4a@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>, schrod@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Joachim Schrod) writes:
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|> As an example, I'm currently thinking about upgrading my 16MB to 32MB
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|> since it's not enough for serious work. The AIX system at work is
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|> already short at memory with 32MB, 64 or 128 MB would be fine. How
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|> can I put 128 MB in my VLB PC? That's the reality I'm living in, and
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|> I suppose Larry has a similar environment. I was even astonished that
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|> he listed only a 400 MB disk, I wouldn't buy anything below 1 GB.
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Yep, my PC is maxed out on RAM and I am trying to decide whether to buy a
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Pentium based motherboard or go with a better processor and port Linux
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myself. As for the 400 MB disk, I think that is standard on the Indy, but
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it would not be enough for me. 8)
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|> On the other hand, might be that peripherie prices in the US are
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|> really as low, I would love to have a `nice' 17" monitor (i.e.,
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|> one that has ca. 80 kHz, 135 MHz, Trinitron if possible) for $ 850.
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|> But I suspect that Donald's term `nice' is simply a different one than
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|> mine.
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I can give you an idea.. I bought a ViewSonic 17 in February for about
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$950. It was almost the lowest priced monitor of its class at the time.
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It is a pretty decent monitor, but not quite as good as most of the
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workstation monitors I have used (except for DG aviion).
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From: koenig@nova.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Harald Koenig)
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Subject: Re: Any interest for DCF77 clock code?
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Date: 6 Sep 94 16:14:15 GMT
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In <34h7dc$n92@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> dak@rama.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (David Kastrup) writes:
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>So I can't. Sue me.
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>I am still trying to get the xntp3p3 source distribution to run. Main
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>problem currently: Linux kernel includes a kernel PLL which can be
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>properly adjusted (much superior to usual adjtime behaviour). The
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>kernel PLL code in the distrib (I think MCC 1.0+), however, calls
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>*system* calls of the SUN, only. So I will have to tweak sources
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>quite a bit to get optimal behaviour.
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to use the Linux kernel PLL code, use xntp-3.3p which is available e.g. on
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ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de:/tmp/xntp*
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(again thanks to Gert Doering!) or on the LST 1.8 CDROM!
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After this version, the kernel pll code changed in xntp and isn't yet
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implemented in Linux.
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Even if you use xntp on Linux, you may want to get dcf77-koenig.tar.gz
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from the same server/directory.
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it includes a kernel patch which can be used with this xntp-3.3p version
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available there and uses the DCF77 signal connected to DCD to get a higher
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accurancy (even if you only use RX for the signal, you get much better
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cpu-load indenpency since the time stamps for the pulses are sampled in
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the kernel and not in user level code which can be delayed
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by 10-150 msec (not usec! whereas the interrupt latexcy is ~12 usec for my
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486/dx2-66)).
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Harald
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--
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All SCSI disks will from now on ___ _____
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be required to send an email notice 0--,| /OOOOOOO\
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24 hours prior to complete hardware failure! <_/ / /OOOOOOOOOOO\
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\ \/OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO\
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\ OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO|//
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Harald Koenig, \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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Inst.f.Theoret.Astrophysik // / \\ \
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koenig@tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de ^^^^^ ^^^^^
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From: pyeatt@cervesa.cs.colostate.edu (Larry Pyeatt)
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Subject: Re: Future of linux -- the sequel
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Date: 6 Sep 1994 16:40:07 GMT
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In article <Cvo1F8.4uA@pe1chl.ampr.org>, rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) writes:
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|> However, this is not what the thread is all about. The point is that the
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|> original statement that an Indy makes a Pentium feel like a 4.77MHz XT
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|> was a gross exaggeration, and that still stands. The memo only shows that
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|> SGI has had performance problems as well. It would be a real feat when
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|> the difference between 5.1 and 5.2 was between something that is too
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|> slow to work with and something that is 50 times as fast as a Pentium,
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|> but I *really doubt* this is the case.
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Well, I could say that "feel" is a subjective term and when I get off
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of an Indy, HP700, RS600, or Decstation and go to a pentium machine
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I "feel" like I am using an IBM PCXT.
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However, you are correct in saying that I made a gross exaggeration.
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I withdraw my statement. In normal use, (non floating point) I don't
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think that MIPS R4600 is much more than twice as fast as a 90Mhz Pentium.
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From: fernym@pc64.maths.bris.ac.uk (Mark Fernyhough)
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Subject: Re: clnttcp_create: RPC: Program not registered
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Reply-To: Mark.Fernyhough@bristol.ac.uk
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Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 16:35:04 GMT
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Mitchum DSouza (Mitchum.DSouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk) wrote:
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: In article <Cvpqx7.Eyz@info.bris.ac.uk>, fernym@pc64.maths.bris.ac.uk (Mark
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: Fernyhough) writes:
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: |> After installing libc-4.6.7 i started getting a few problems. First one
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: |> was that the location of utmp changed which was ok to fix, but the second
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: |> was the message:-
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: |>
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: |> clnttcp_create: RPC: Program not registered
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: |>
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: |> This occured when logging in:-
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: |>
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: |> Password:
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: |> Last login: Mon Sep 5 17:06:29 on tty1
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: |> clnttcp_create: RPC: Program not registered <-------------
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: |> Linux 1.1.49. (Posix).
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: |> You have mail.
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: |>
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: |> and also when when untarring a file:
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: |>
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: |> pc64:~/net> tar xvzf net-tools-1.1.46.tar.gz
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: |> COPYING
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: |> Configure.sh
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: |> Install.sh
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: |> Makefile
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: |> README
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: |> README.hostname
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: |> arp
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: |> clnttcp_create: RPC: Program not registered <-------------
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: |> arp.c
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: |>
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: |> Does anyone now how to fix this? Do i have to recompile binaries or do i
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: |> have
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: |> to redo the /etc/rpc file with a new entry..........?
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: Hmmm very interesting...
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: First before people start asking, libc-4.6.7 is not for public use yet, so
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: expect problem (perhaps) like these.
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: What rpc services do you use ?? NIS/YP, NYS, NFS, AMD ? Have you changed
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: anything recently ??
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I am using rpc.rstatd and rpc.portmap only and i just use NFS to mount
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remote drives. I haven't really changed much. Switching back to 4.5.26
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eliminates the problem. 4.6.0--4.6.4 was ok then 4.6.5-4.6.7 started playing up
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: One of the major changes is that the res* and inet* stuff from bsd4.4/bind493b9
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: have been integrated with our libc.
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: Mitch
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One thing i forgot to mention was that
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the file arp was a binary in this case and that all binary in this tar file
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gave the same error
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pc64:~/net> tar xvzf net-tools-1.1.46.tar.gz
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> COPYING
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> Configure.sh
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> Install.sh
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> Makefile
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> README
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> README.hostname
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> arp <------------ binary
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> clnttcp_create: RPC: Program not registered <-------------
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> arp.c
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Mark
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From: pyeatt@cervesa.cs.colostate.edu (Larry Pyeatt)
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Subject: Re: Future of linux -- the sequel
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Date: 6 Sep 1994 16:47:11 GMT
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In article <1994Sep5.175521.2668@escape.widomaker.com>, shendrix@escape.widomaker.com (Shannon Hendrix) writes:
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|> pyeatt@cervesa.cs.colostate.edu (Larry Pyeatt) writes:
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|>
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|> >In article <348vsp$68c@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov>, becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov (Donald Becker) writes:
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|> >|>
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|> >|> That's just way more than a reasonable Linux box will cost.
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|>
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|> >Define "reasonable." I defined reasonable to be "something similar to
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|> >SGI Indy. You can't get that sort of performance with cheap parts.
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|>
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|> Yes you can. The point was that the prices for the individual parts
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|> listed in the Pentium system were far more than what they actually cost.
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|> The $6400 Pentium listed would be more like $2700 to anyone that knows
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|> where to look and I don't mean getting low-quality either.
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In that case I should pay you $300 to buy my next computer for me.
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You already have the specs. 8) Tell me about your $2700 system and
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I will tell you why it does not compare to a typical low-end
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workstation.
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From: lynn@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Owen Lynn)
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Subject: Re: Linux - my first impressions
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Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 19:02:12 GMT
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In article <Cvnt5y.D1A@dcs.ed.ac.uk>, Scott Telford <st@epcc.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
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>In article <CvGstn.GH8@mail.auburn.edu>,
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>lynn@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Owen Lynn) writes:
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>
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>> In article <34447i$ksa@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>,
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>> olav woelfelschneider <wosch@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de> wrote:
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>> >Owen Lynn (lynn@magneto.physics.auburn.edu) wrote:
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>> >: Hi folks!
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>> >
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>> >[..lotsa deleted..]
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>> >If you like to edit a config file, just edit /usr/src/linux/config.in
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>> >It should be clear for you what to edit there.
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>> >Then make config and just press return until you are throug.
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>> >Maybe you could also change the makefile so that you have no need to
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>> >press return that much. Contribute your changes (: !
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>>
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>> Ok. Who do I send the diffs to when I'm done? Is there a way to specify
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>> the name of the kernel, like in 4.1.x? The closest thing I could find
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>> was a file called version.h.
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>
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>My Pseudo-BSD-Style Kernel Config package (ftp.epcc.ed.ac.uk:/pub/
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>personal/st/linux/pBs-config-2.0.tar.gz) will let you eschew all this
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>config.in nonsense in favour of a BSD-like kernel config file,
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>configuration names and all. Unfortunately the current release only
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>supports Linux v1.0.x or v1.1.[25-27] - I'd update the diffs to the
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>current release if I thought they wouldn't be broken again by a new
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>kernel release a day later....
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Ah, thank you very much. I'll be sure to check it out. With a few more
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clues like these, life will be grand :).
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--
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Owen fnord Lynn | Hi Bill, Have you met Linus Torvalds? He's the
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lynn@physics.auburn.edu | man who can write a *true* POSIX compliant, secure
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lynnowe@eng.auburn.edu | *multiuser*, multithreaded/multitasking OS that runs
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Ask me for my PGP23a Key | in 2Mb. Linux - an open system for free minds.
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From: koenig@nova.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Harald Koenig)
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Subject: Re: MATROX PCI Graphics board supported ??
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Date: 6 Sep 94 16:27:08 GMT
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In <Cvn147.23H@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au> mwest@kalman.newcastle.edu.au (Mark West) writes:
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>Harald von Fellenberg +41-1-801-3578 DTN 760-3578 (harald@zuunix.zuo.dec.com) wrote:
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>: Is anybody working on the MATROX PCI graphics board support? Or how can it be
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>: configured using default parameters? I have not found any indication about the
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>: board in XFree86-2.1.1...
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>: thanks!
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>: Harald von Fellenberg
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>: Senior Technology Consultant
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>: DEC Digital Equipment Corp. AG
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>: CH-8600 Dubendorf, Switzerland
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>: hvf@zuo.dec.com
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>: "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas"
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>I would like this information as well.
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>Thanks
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>Mark West
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>Research Engineer
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>CICS University Of Newcastle
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>Australia.
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>mwest@ee.newcastle.edu.au
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you may want to ask X Inside Inc.
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they (claim to?) have a matrox server for Linux.
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> Sales & Info:
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> Tel: +1(416)762-3778 FAX: +1(303)470-5513
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> Email: sales@xinside.com info@xinside.com
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> FTP: ftp.xinside.com [199.120.247.2]
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> Mail: 7900 E Union Ave, Suite 1100, Denver, CO 80237, USA.
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>
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> Product is also available from ACC Bookstores.
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Harald
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--
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All SCSI disks will from now on ___ _____
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be required to send an email notice 0--,| /OOOOOOO\
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24 hours prior to complete hardware failure! <_/ / /OOOOOOOOOOO\
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\ \/OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO\
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\ OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO|//
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Harald Koenig, \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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Inst.f.Theoret.Astrophysik // / \\ \
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koenig@tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de ^^^^^ ^^^^^
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From: koenig@nova.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Harald Koenig)
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Subject: Re: XFree & CDROM slow down transfer rate
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Date: 6 Sep 94 16:40:12 GMT
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In <CvL2o1.1H1@news.tudelft.nl> stock@dutsh7.tudelft.nl (Robert Stockmann) writes:
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>BTW I test the transferrate by doing:
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># time dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/null bs=32k count=128
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well, that's only 4MB which will fit in your buffer cache without X11 with
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no problem.
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real "benchmarks" should run at least 60 seconds, so you may try
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time dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=32k count=3840
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which is 120MB (assuming that your disk is >120MB).
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You may want to try different block sizes (4k, 16k and 1024k).
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4k may give a bit better performance since this will match the page size.
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Harald
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--
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All SCSI disks will from now on ___ _____
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be required to send an email notice 0--,| /OOOOOOO\
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24 hours prior to complete hardware failure! <_/ / /OOOOOOOOOOO\
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\ \/OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO\
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\ OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO|//
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Harald Koenig, \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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Inst.f.Theoret.Astrophysik // / \\ \
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koenig@tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de ^^^^^ ^^^^^
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From: mmoss@panix.com (Matthew Moss)
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Subject: Re: IDE Hard Drives w/ over 1024 cylinders
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Date: 6 Sep 1994 16:59:44 -0400
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In article <9408311222.AA04832@redbird.umsl.edu>,
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Matthew Feldt <matthew@redbird.umsl.edu> wrote:
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>Since I partitioned up the disk DOS doesn't care about the number of cylinders
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>but while installing Linux I kept getting the following warning:
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> "The nuber of cylinders for this disk is set to 1048.
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> This is larger than 1024 and may cause problems with some software."
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>
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I recently purchased and installed a Seagate 2.1GB, and that has 2048
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cylinders (or close to that... anyway). And I am successfully using
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DOS6.2/Win, OS/2fw 2.1, and Linux Slackware 1.2.0.... Here is my disk
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partitions:
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Size Partition
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---- ---------
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1 OS/2 Boot Manager
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650 DOS 6.2/Win 3.1
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55 Linux Root
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306 OS/2fw 2.1
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12 Linux Swap
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1024 Linux /usr
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These are the things that I was told:
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1) The Boot Manager, DOS, and Linux Root all have to be primary partitions.
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All the others are logical partitions.
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2) DOS cannot see more than 1024 cylinders, so all DOS has to be in the first
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1024 cylinders. I think Linux Root has to be in first 1024 as well.
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3) A partition cannot cross over the 1024 cylinder mark. So I couldn't extend
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the Swap partition over the boundary. If I wanted to grow it, it would
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have to shrink some other partition in the first 1024, or move completely
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into the second 1024 and shrink the /usr partition.
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I got the same error above about the drive being more than 1024 cylinders,
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but I've had absolutely no problems at all. I'm using Linux with Xwindows,
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SLIP, and many other packages with no problems.
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If you see any problem with what I've said here, this is what I've been
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told and what has worked for me.
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+---------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+
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| Matthew D Moss :-p ;-) | JOEL: "What's this one here?" MST3K |
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| INTERNET: mmoss@panix.com | TOM SERVO: "Oh, that's me, but I'm moist..." |
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