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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 94 21:13:06 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #169
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Linux-Development Digest #169, Volume #2 Tue, 13 Sep 94 21:13:06 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: RFD: Linux and end-users (Was: Don't use Linux?!) (Sebastian W. Bunka)
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Re: SCO on Linux (Sebastian W. Bunka)
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RPC Failure .... CDROM (Timothy Kulig)
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Re: Novell routing between IPX/TCPIP? (Rob Coursey)
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Looking for a Fax daemon (Rob Coursey)
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Re: News Spool File System - new filesystem type?? (Tom Limoncelli)
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'Timer expired' error with ftape (Ulf Griesmann)
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Re: Future of linux -- the sequel (Hamish Macdonald)
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Re: Login USERID length bug? (Hamish Macdonald)
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Re: -fPIC flag in gcc (David Engel)
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Re: PPP/IP Forwarding Problem (Vassili Leonov)
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Latest Linux Revision (Timothy Kulig)
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Re: IDEA: Energy saving features for harddisks (Joerg Schneider)
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SCO on Linux (Timothy Kulig)
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Re: Help with development using vi. (Warwick Allison)
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1 Gig Hard Drives (Timothy Kulig)
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From: seb@i102pc1.vu-wien.ac.at (Sebastian W. Bunka)
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Subject: Re: RFD: Linux and end-users (Was: Don't use Linux?!)
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 07:03:06 GMT
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Reply-To: Sebastian.Bunka@vu-wien.ac.at
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Ted Harding (Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk) wrote:
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: What Linux lacks, so far, is a /good/ base of applications software.
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True, but remember when Linux came alive....
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How old is DO$, and WINDOW$E ?
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What about SISCAD-P, Image analysis tools (professional > 10.000 US$)
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iBCS....
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: Say what you like about DOS (DR- or MS-), there's a huge repertoire
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: of often excellent DOS-based applications software. Agreed the
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: to work. If even the now obsolescent dBase-III for DOS were ported to
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: Linux this would make work a lot easier.
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Check commercial adds (and read these newsgroups) - it's already
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commercially available for Linux
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And give a try for the Xess3 demo (SCO version - runs faster
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than 123 for Windo$e...)
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Some People wan't a company like BillyBoys one - they get for what they
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pay for - let them go.
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My Linux uptime is now > 5 weeks (kernel update, only to 1.1.24 -> dosemu
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- Once a week one of my collegues comes to
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me having crashes w/ windo$e, corrupted doublespace and so on.
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And it'll take some time for companies to develop for Linux - but maybe
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not the big ones. They ARE starting - see the increasing numbers of
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ads in computer magazines...
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Sebastian
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--
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email: [ Sebastian.Bunka@vu-wien.ac.at ]
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voice: FAX:
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+43-1-71155260 +43-1-7149110
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Location: earth, europe, austria, vienna Inst. of Bacteriology Vet.Univ.
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From: seb@i102pc1.vu-wien.ac.at (Sebastian W. Bunka)
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Subject: Re: SCO on Linux
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 07:07:41 GMT
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Reply-To: Sebastian.Bunka@vu-wien.ac.at
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Timothy Kulig (tim@systel.com) wrote:
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: Is it true that you can run SCO based programs under Linux?
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Yes, works great!
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: If so how???
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Get the iBCS2 emulator from sunsite (slackware-source/extra-stuff/iBCS2...
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and modules (kernel subdir));
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compile, insmod, ready; Get Demos (WP51, Xess3 for Sco are working fine);
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Also running is Mosaic, Xarchie and a lot of other Sco programs.
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(for WP get the wpfix.tar.gz from sunsite apps/editors)
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Enjoy it
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Sebastian
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--
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email: [ Sebastian.Bunka@vu-wien.ac.at ]
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voice: FAX:
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+43-1-71155260 +43-1-7149110
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Location: earth, europe, austria, vienna Inst. of Bacteriology Vet.Univ.
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From: tim@systel.com (Timothy Kulig)
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Subject: RPC Failure .... CDROM
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 02:24:05 GMT
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Whenever I mount my CDROM on /cdrom then /etc/export /cdrom
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on my HP 9000/832 I mount it read it, but .... When I try
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to copy anything off of it, I get "RPC Failure ...."
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Anything I'm doing? I see the CD Light go off for a split second
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then quote the Kulig ..... Never more.
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I appreciate it.
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Tim Kulig
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--
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/ \ | Timothy Alan Kulig tim@systel.com or tkulig@ic.net
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/_____\ | (800) 906-2167 (810) 960-9783 Data: (810) 960-7679
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/ \ | Homer Simpson is my Idol. MMMMM Fuzzy Grape!!
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From: rcoursey@ring10.cs.utsa.edu (Rob Coursey)
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Subject: Re: Novell routing between IPX/TCPIP?
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 02:25:32 GMT
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Alan Cox (iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk) wrote:
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: In article <34i23i$9o@nkosi.well.com> cames@well.sf.ca.us (Bob Kaehms) writes:
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: >Does anyone have any ideas on how I could turn Linux into a router for
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: >both TCPIP and IPX? what would it take to get IPX routing available on
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: >Linux? Buy-in from Novell? Anyone familar enough with IPX to know whether
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: >or not this is doable without Novell?
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another option is to simply include the TCP/IP frametype
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(ethernet_II) in your net.cfg for the link drivers on your workstations
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(novell that is) and bind IP to your lan card on your novell server like:
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load mycard.lan port=xx slot=xx frame=ethernet_ii
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bind ip to mycard addr=x.x.x.x
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and your server is now a router for the ip stuffs
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From: rcoursey@ring10.cs.utsa.edu (Rob Coursey)
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Subject: Looking for a Fax daemon
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 02:29:36 GMT
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I was just wondering if somebody had already either started or had completed
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a fax server for linux and, of course, if so, would you know the location
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of where it might be?
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From: tal@big.att.com (Tom Limoncelli)
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Crossposted-To: news.software.b
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Subject: Re: News Spool File System - new filesystem type??
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 16:56:27 -0400
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In <352s8s$66b@hpuerci.atl.hp.com> jab@narcesc.atl.hp.com (Alan Barrow) writes:
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>We can "specify/design" what we need to include in the DB as data or
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>index's for free. Then and only then do we code. Then someone with INN
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>and an ORACLE/INGRESS/INFORMIX/SYBASE/ALLBASE license tests it.
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>(probably at least the code person, as a start) :-) No big deal, JASMOP. :-)
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If you are serious about this kind of project, consider InterBase from
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Borland. It has some things in it that make it able to handle what
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netnews needs a lot better than other systems. In particular, other
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systems do an exclusive lock on the database for each transaction.
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InterBase lets you flag a transaction as, "I'm just browsing" and as
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doesn't lock things. So, when you are writing a banking application
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you turn that off. When you are writing something that lets a manager
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run a zillion little reports to try to find or visualize the data, you
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set that flag. You get much better performance.
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Netnews reading fits that model well.
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--tal
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--
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Tom Limoncelli -- tal@big.att.com (work) -- tal@plts.org (play)
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"Finally some good news! The electrical fires caused by the cable cuts that
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precipitated the total power outage have been extinguished by the flood!"
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From: ulfg@groundhog.phy.nist.gov (Ulf Griesmann)
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Subject: 'Timer expired' error with ftape
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 19:34:34 GMT
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Hi All,
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I am having problems using the ftape driver with a Colorado DJ20 drive
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which may point to a bug in the driver. When dumping a file
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to tape with the following command:
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>> dd if=everything.zip of=/dev/ftape bs=10k
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I will after a while get the following error message:
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dd: /dev/ftape: Timer expired
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435+0 records in
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434+0 records out
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(Note: everything.zip is 60MB large)
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This error consistenly occurs on several machines
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(386/40, 486/66) with kernels 1.1.[345]x and ftape version 1.13b.
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It also stops 'tar' and 'cpio' dead in their tracks.
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The error log shows that the timeout occurs in function 'ftape_ready_wait'
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following a call to 'setup_segment'.
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ftape-read.c (read_header_segment) - tracks-per-cartridge: 28.
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ftape-read.c (read_header_segment) - max-floppy-side: 6.
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ftape-read.c (read_header_segment) - max-floppy-track: 149.
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ftape-read.c (read_header_segment) - max-floppy-sector: 128.
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ftape-read.c (read_header_segment) - first data segment: 2.
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ftape-read.c (read_header_segment) - `last' segment is 4199, 29 Kb.
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ftape-read.c (read_header_segment) - 121594 Kb usable on this tape.
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ftape-eof.c (extract_file_marks) - number of file marks: 0.
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ftape-write.c (copy_and_gen_ecc) - bad sectors in map: 1.
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ftape-rw.c (setup_segment) - segment: 21, bad sector map: 00100000.
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ftape-write.c (copy_and_gen_ecc) - bad sectors in map: 32.
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ftape-write.c (copy_and_gen_ecc) - empty segment.
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ftape-write.c (_write_segment) - empty segment, nothing written.
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ftape-rw.c (setup_segment) - segment: 112, bad sector map: ffffffff.
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ftape-io.c (ftape_ready_wait) - timeout. <-------------------- :-(
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ftape-write.c (write_segment) - eot/bot not reached.
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ftape-write.c (_write_segment) - write_segment failed, error: 62.
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ftape-io.c (_ftape_close) - error: unable to update header segments.
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ftape-io.c (_ftape_close) - == Non-fatal errors this run: ==.
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ftape-io.c (_ftape_close) - fdc isr statistics:.
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ftape-io.c (_ftape_close) - id_am_errors : 0.
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ftape-io.c (_ftape_close) - id_crc_errors : 0.
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ftape-io.c (_ftape_close) - data_am_errors : 0.
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ftape-io.c (_ftape_close) - data_crc_errors : 1.
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ftape-io.c (_ftape_close) - overrun_errors : 0.
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ftape-io.c (_ftape_close) - no_data_errors : 0.
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ftape-io.c (_ftape_close) - retries : 0.
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ftape-io.c (_ftape_close) - repositions : 0.
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ftape-io.c (_ftape_close) - last segment : 151.
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Curiously, this error seems to happen only with tapes formatted using
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the Colorado software for DOS which came with the DJ20 drive. I have one
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preformatted tape which seems to work o.k. Does anyone out there have
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a similar problem? Is it caused by bad tapes or by a bug in the driver?
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Can it be fixed??
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Cheerio,
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Ulf
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+--------------------------------+---------------------------------+
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| Ulf Griesmann | Tel.: (301) 975 3212 |
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| National Institute of | Fax.: (301) 990 1350 |
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| Standards & Technologies | |
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| Atomic Physics Division | e-address: |
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| Gaithersburg MD 20899, U.S.A. | ulfg@aeldata.phy.nist.gov |
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Disclaimer: Speaking for myself, not for NIST.
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From: Hamish.Macdonald@bnr.ca (Hamish Macdonald)
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Subject: Re: Future of linux -- the sequel
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 21:16:47 GMT
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>>>>> On 11 Sep 1994 18:23:22 EST,
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>>>>> In message <1994Sep11.232322.2639@escape.widomaker.com>,
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>>>>> shendrix@escape.widomaker.com (Shannon Hendrix) wrote:
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Shannon> The IDE interface is not good for multiple drives but most of
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Shannon> my accesses come from one drive. IDE is 16-bits, SCSI is 8
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Shannon> so unless you have multple drives and put them under a severe
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Shannon> load, the Sun's I use are slightly slower (a lot slower in
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Shannon> some cases).
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Don't confuse the disk <-> controller speed with the controller <->
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memory/cpu speed.
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I believe that IDE is *1* bit at a time between the controller and
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disk.
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SCSI is 8 bits at a time.
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IDE is 16 bits at a time between the controller and memory/cpu.
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SCSI depends on the controller (my controller transfers 32 bits at a
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time between the controller and memory).
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From: Hamish.Macdonald@bnr.ca (Hamish Macdonald)
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Subject: Re: Login USERID length bug?
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 21:24:31 GMT
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>>>>> On 13 Sep 1994 09:20:37 EST,
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>>>>> In message <Cw2nuD.EHK@cwi.nl>,
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>>>>> aeb@cwi.nl (Andries Brouwer) wrote:
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Andries> On the other hand, I have seen several sites (the Univ. of
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Andries> Waterloo, *.uwaterloo.ca, comes to mind), that use longer
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Andries> login names.
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That's on machines where MFCF had full source to BSD 4.x and SunOS 3.x
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(maybe 4.x also?) and changed *everything* to understand the larger
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size. This was quite a while ago.
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I believe that very few machines at UofW are running those operating
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systems anymore, so most of them are stuck at 8 characters now (since
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around 1989-1991 probably).
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From: david@ods.com (David Engel)
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Subject: Re: -fPIC flag in gcc
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 22:11:00 GMT
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Carl Karlsson (d90-cka@dront.nada.kth.se) wrote:
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: It seems that a DLL have to be self-contained. I know the obvious answer
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: to this question - rearrange the libraries - but since that is a little
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: bit of too much work, I would like to know if there's another way out.
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Yes, Linux DLL libraries have to be self-contained. However, there is
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nothing to prevent you from combining two or more mutually dependent
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libraries into a single image. Libc has been done this way for a long
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time and I believe libgr is also a combination library.
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David
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--
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David Engel Optical Data Systems, Inc.
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david@ods.com 1101 E. Arapaho Road
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(214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081
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From: vassili@cs.sunysb.edu (Vassili Leonov)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.admin,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
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Subject: Re: PPP/IP Forwarding Problem
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 20:29:07 GMT
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jbarrett@onramp.net wrote:
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:I'm running Linux 1.1.49 and attempting to configure it as a router between my
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:local Ethernet and my Internet provider. I've posted on this before but maybe I
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if you just have an ethernet network and one box on it is connected
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to an Internet provider (you used some bad language like M#%&@$@ft there -
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so I'm not quite sure)
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then you need two things to do it proper:
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- make sure your kernel on SLIP/PPP machine is configured as ROUTING
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packets (make config)
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- make sure that other machines have
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route add default gw your_slip_hostname metric 1
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somewhere in their rc.inet1
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Sooo.... It's basic networking - why blame Linux on that... Read some
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good books on that though.... Has nothing to do with Linux development...
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Vassili.
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From: tim@systel.com (Timothy Kulig)
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Subject: Latest Linux Revision
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 02:26:44 GMT
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What are the benefits of the Latest and greatest Linux version?
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What are my benefits from moving from my 1.0????
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What version is at??
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What are the Pitfalls???? Or shall I say unwanted "features"?
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--
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/ \ | Timothy Alan Kulig tim@systel.com or tkulig@ic.net
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| (o)(o) | S Y S T E L Unix Windows Dos Vax - You name it!
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C .---_) |
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| |.___| | If you need anything in the Unix World, Feel Free to call!
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/_____\ | (800) 906-2167 (810) 960-9783 Data: (810) 960-7679
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/_____/ \ |
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/ \ | Homer Simpson is my Idol. MMMMM Fuzzy Grape!!
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From: uk9o@rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Joerg Schneider)
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Subject: Re: IDEA: Energy saving features for harddisks
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 07:39:51 GMT
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Christer Weinigel (y93chrwe@ida.liu.se) wrote:
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: Hi,
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: Is there anybody working on energy saving features for Linux?
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: More specifically, has anyone tried to use the "power-off" features
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: found in most IDE and SCSI disks.
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...
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: If nobody else is working on this, I'd be interested in trying to
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: implement this myself, the problem is that I'm not really sure of
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: where to begin, so any pointers would be appreciated.
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good idea.
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Due to syncing and swapping this feature will be most useful for a
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seldomly used disk which is perhaps auto-(un)-mounted. I have such a
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beast which makes quite annoying noise, so mainly for that reason I
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would appreciate a "power save" feature :-).
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: blubbering_about_ideas(TRUE)
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: I should probably try to implement an IOCTL in the
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: scsi disk or IDE disk code, which sets the "sleep timeout" for a device.
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: Turning off a disk is (almost?) trivial, but when am I supposed to activate
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: the drive again? Should I implement a function "activate_if_stopped(dev)"
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: which would be called from just about every other function in the disk
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: code or should I activate the disk when a command returns a NOT_READY
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: error.
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As far as I know a disk in sleep (or whatever you call it) mode starts
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up automatically if you use it (perhaps we need a longer time out for
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this case).
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: blubbering_about_ideas(FALSE)
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From: tim@systel.com (Timothy Kulig)
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Subject: SCO on Linux
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 02:31:44 GMT
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Is it true that you can run SCO based programs under Linux?
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If so how???
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Timothy Kulig
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From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: Help with development using vi.
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 02:15:07 GMT
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vinberg@cc.Helsinki.FI (Olli Vinberg) writes:
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>Get a better vi. nvi from ftp.cs.berkeley.edu (if I remember the
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>address correctly) is a much better vi than elvis. (And let's you
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>cut&paste under X, which is the exact reason why I dumped elvis)
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I don't understand. Cut-and-paste under X is provided by XTerm,
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not by the editor running in the XTerm. Any editor can be used
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and you will get cut-and-paste. I use it all the time under Unix.
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BTW, a neat trick is to add a paste button to xterm:
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*VT100.translations: #override\
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<Key>Insert: insert-selection(PRIMARY,CUT_BUFFER0)\n
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(to .Xdefaults)
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Warwick
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_-_|\ warwick@cs.uq.oz.au /
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/ * <-- Computer Science Department, / WIT SPACE TO LET
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From: tim@systel.com (Timothy Kulig)
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Subject: 1 Gig Hard Drives
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 02:38:34 GMT
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1 Gig Hard Drive. I want to install one, but I fear this 1024 Paramater
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problem I've heard about, What hard Drive with ! gig of space does not
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have this problem? I ask development in the hope that this was a bug fix,
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and hopefully you all will know about it.
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Thanx.
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