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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 94 15:13:39 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #173
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Linux-Development Digest #173, Volume #2 Wed, 14 Sep 94 15:13:39 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: 320x200 X resolution? (Stephen Collyer)
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Kernel Problems? (nauersc@delphi.com)
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Wanted: Device driver for POWERPORTS (terryt@cs.athabascau.ca)
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Re: Sound Problems with SW32 (Hannu Savolainen)
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Re: General Linux Development (Alan Cox)
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DOSEMU 0.52 and newer Linux kernels (Bob Doolittle)
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Re: Survey: who wants f77,cc,c++,hpf for linux? (Dan Pop)
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Re: VHDL for Linux...? (Norley Liu)
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Is there an encrypted filesystem for Linux? (Denis Constales)
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Re: VHDL for Linux...? (Frederic POTTER)
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inb(),outb()--help? (Steve Larsen)
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Re: AX25 & KISS Amateur Radio Protocols in Linux?? (Mark Evans)
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G++ using too much memory?!? (Marc L. Allen)
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Re: Acid (Richard L. Goerwitz)
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Re: /proc/mtab progress (Davor Jadrijevic)
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Re: Survey: who wants f77,cc,c++,hpf for linux? (Alan Cox)
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LILO with >1.44Mb floppies (Julian Edwards)
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Wanted: DAT Scsi Driver. (Werner Fouche)
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AX25 & KISS Amateur Radio Protocols in Linux?? (Bart Kindt)
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From: stephen@dogmatix.inmos.co.uk (Stephen Collyer)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Re: 320x200 X resolution?
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 13:00:56 GMT
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|> Orest Zborowski (orestz@eskimo.com) wrote:
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|>
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|> : For running DOOM, I use the XF86_SVGA server and chipset "generic"
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|> : with a stock VGA 320x200 modes line:
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|> : "320x200" 25 320 344 376 400 200 204 206 225
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|>
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|> : You can simply run the server, without any clients, and start linuxxdoom
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|> : on a VT. Looks very nice!
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I don't see how these values work. With a 25 MHz clock, with total V. lines =
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400, and total H. lines 225, we're looking at a refresh rate of roughly
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25E6 / (400 x 1.1 x 225 x 1.05) = 240
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This is way above the spec of any monitor I'm familiar with. Or am I missing
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something obvious ?
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Steve Collyer.
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From: nauersc@delphi.com
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Subject: Kernel Problems?
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 94 11:28:35 -0500
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Hi Guyz.
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Lately I have developed a problem on my system. I was running version
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1.1.28 of the kernel. After running with no problems for several weeks the
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system started to crash every night :(. Since this started I have tried up-
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grading to 1.1.35 but that did not help any.
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Here are the specs for the system:
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CMO 486Dx2/66
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32M RAM
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Future Domain TMC-1680
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Micropolis 1Gig HD
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1 Generic Multi I/O card
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1 2 1/2 FDD
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1 Boca BB2016 (16 port board)
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WangDAT Tape drive.
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From the syslog and messages files in /var/adm I looked through some
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of the errors. They almost always have a different IEP listed.
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Here is a list of a couple of them:
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00010003 (___get_free_pages)
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001249b0 (_find_buffer)
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00178216 (_rs_write)
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00119774 (_do_exit)
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I got the function names from zSystem per instructions in README file.
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If anyone can help me please send me a note, if you need ALL of the info from
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/var/adm/messages I can e-mail them, this damn news reader at delphi
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ain't the best :).
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Scott Nauer
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Quincy University
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scott@quincy.edu
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From: terryt@cs.athabascau.ca
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Subject: Wanted: Device driver for POWERPORTS
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Date: 14 Sep 94 14:35:24 GMT
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Hi,
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Does anyone know if there is a driver available for a Consensys
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POWERPORTS 8 port serial card. I have salvaged one from an AT&T
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PC and would like to use it under Linux.
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Thanks in advance,
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Terry
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********* Terry Tanski, B.Sc.
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**********
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. **** Computing Services Internet: terryt@cs.athabascau.ca
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.. **** Athabasca University Phone: (403) 675-6339
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.... **** Box 10,000 FAX: (403) 675-6333
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..........**** Athabasca, Alberta CANADA
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From: hannu@voxware.pp.fi (Hannu Savolainen)
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Subject: Re: Sound Problems with SW32
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 13:23:19 GMT
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n5298@cray.com (Sunny Yum) writes:
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>I recently upgraded to v1.1.50 of the kernel from v1.0.7 and installed
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>the new Voxware sound driver v3.0 alpha. I have an Orchid SoundWave 32
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>and configured the driver for Microsoft Sound System, Sound Blaster,
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>and MPU-401 support as follows:
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>MSS IRQ10, DMA0
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>SB IRQ7, DMA1
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>MIDI IRQ5
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>The IRQs and DMAs, I am *sure*, are correct.
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>The problem is that I am getting DMA timeouts whenever I try to do
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>anything with the MSS sound. "tracker" plays the first 3 seconds of
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>a MOD over and over and over... 'cat sound.au > /dev/audio' results
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>in the playing of the sound and then either a) hanging (terminate
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>with a CTRL-C) or b) playing the sound and then piece(s) of *previous*
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>sounds played on /dev/audio. DOOM's sound, and rplay also fail to
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>work properly with the driver/card.
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The current MSS support in VoxWare is not perfect. There are some problems
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with the soft config registers for DMA and IRQ. For that reason some IRQ and
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DMA combinations work and some other don't. I have been using a SG NX Pro 16
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with DMA0 and IRQ10 but the same settings don't work with SW32.
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If anybody knows how the config registers (base+0 to base+3) of the Windows
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Sound System work, please contact me.
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Hannu
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--
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=============================
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Hannu Savolainen
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hannu@voxware.pp.fi
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"Don't use Windows since there is a door!"
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: General Linux Development
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 12:41:02 GMT
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In article <Cw2796.6Ir@ndl.co.uk> rad@ndl.co.uk (Rich Deighton) writes:
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>Are there any far reaching goals for Linux such that there is a point where
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>the kernel is _finished_? Will development just continue until the kernel
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>suffers from severe featuritus?
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Featuritis is one thing I hope it doesn't develop. It's also one reason why
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getting the kernel more modular important. Having a driver for everything
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is all well and good so long as they can be downloaded seperately. The core
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kernel certainly is far from finished in all respects. It lacks enough
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loadable module support, the buffer cache needs cleaning up to handle
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non blockmapped filesystems (like NFS), the scheduler is a walking disaster
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area, and the 1.1.x network as will go into 1.2.0 has some very naive
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assumptions about drivers and can't cleanly layer protocols (this lot is
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under work - I guess people are working on some of the others too). Those
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I don't see as featuritis but definite improvements.
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I guess one thing that would be a good general project for someone wanting
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to go kernel hacking would be to read through all the code spot and clean
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up duplication and switch and improve algorithms where they stand out as
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bad (again the scheduler comes to mind). Like IBM have squashed OS/2 for
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2.2, to squash Linux.
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Alan
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--
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..-----------,,----------------------------,,----------------------------,,
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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``----------'`----------------------------'`----------------------------''
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From: rad@think.com (Bob Doolittle)
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Subject: DOSEMU 0.52 and newer Linux kernels
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Date: 14 Sep 94 12:11:34
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I was able to lrun DOSEMU 0.52 with Linux 1.1.19, but now that I've
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upgraded to 1.1.49, it simply hangs my system when I start it up. Is this
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a known problem? I tried rebuilding 0.52 with the 1.1.49 headers in place,
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but this seems to have had no effect. If I switch to DOSEMU 0.53.pl19 will
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this solve my problem?
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-Bob
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--
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===============================================================================
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Bob Doolittle Still Thinking Machines Corporation
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(617) 234-2734 245 First Street
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rad@think.com Cambridge, MA 02142
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===============================================================================
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Crossposted-To: comp.lang.fortran
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From: danpop@cernapo.cern.ch (Dan Pop)
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Subject: Re: Survey: who wants f77,cc,c++,hpf for linux?
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 15:37:10 GMT
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In <S.Herbert.3.2E76DE77@shef.ac.uk> S.Herbert@shef.ac.uk writes:
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>As for benchmarking GCC against 32bit DOS compilers - the context switching
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>involved in running 32 bit compilers under a 16 bit O/S makes such a
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>difference that I don't understand how empirical comparisons can be
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>meaningful (unless you use the same extender for both compilers).
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I can't imagine that the DOS extenders which come with the commercial
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compilers are significantly less performant than the free DOS extender
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that comes with DJGPP, so the comparison can still be made, running
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all the executables under MSDOS, with their extenders.
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Dan
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--
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Dan Pop
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CERN, CN Division
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Email: danpop@cernapo.cern.ch
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Mail: CERN - PPE, Bat. 31 R-004, CH-1211 Geneve 23, Switzerland
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From: nliu@tidmmpl.csc.ti.com (Norley Liu)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.lsi.cad,comp.lang.vhdl
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Subject: Re: VHDL for Linux...?
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 14:07:14 GMT
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In article <355pp0$64n@mercury.mcs.com>, Don Hiatt <hiattd@MCS.COM> wrote:
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>ADA (ada@nic.cerf.net) wrote:
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>
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>Yes there is. Get the Alliance-2.0 package. You can ftp the source
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>from: ftp.ibp.fr
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>You will find it in /ibp/softs/masi/alliance
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>
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>Alliance is aimed at VLSI synthesis but if that is not your goal
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>you can still use the VHDL simulator.. BTW, it is a great package.
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>don
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Alliance covers so small subset of VHDL that it is virtually useless in
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term of doing design using Alliance. It may be a great tool to learn the VLSI
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design-synthesis-layout-verification flow, but definitely not a VHDL
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tool for design, IMHO.
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Let me tell you what you can do in Alliance: Boolean functions,
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flip flops, muxes. That is all. No conditional statement (like if...then),
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no sequential statement (like process), no file I/O (so don't expect to
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create test bench), and no arithmatic operations (like + - * /).
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Overall, you can not do behavioral modeling in Alliance.
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Worset of all, all files in document directory were empty.
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I wish I was wrong. Using Alliance would save me $3K to buy Model
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Tech's package. Again, it totally depends on what you are expecting out
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of Alliance. In term of a design modeling, I suggest you stay away
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from Alliance.
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Albert
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From: dc@cage.rug.ac.be (Denis Constales)
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Subject: Is there an encrypted filesystem for Linux?
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 13:37:15 GMT
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Is there an encrypted file system for Linux? Now, anyone can boot
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off a floppy, mount your file systems and read everything. Maybe someone
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has patched the ext2fs so as to encrypt data before any write and decrypt
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it after any read? (Actually, it's more complicated when the kernel is on
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an encrypted file system, and obtaining the key at mount time might be
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non trivial too).
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Replies welcomed over Usenet or e-mail.
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Cheers, D.C.
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--
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Dr. Denis Constales - finger dcons@world.std.com for address, PGP key &c
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From: frederic@swing.ibp.fr (Frederic POTTER)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.lsi.cad,comp.lang.vhdl
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Subject: Re: VHDL for Linux...?
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 13:22:11 GMT
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And don't forget about the complete ALLIANCE tools
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VHDL, logic synthesis, router, layout editor, layout extraction
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etc.....
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just go at ftp.ibp.fr ( alliance sub-directory ) and get
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or the sources, or the linux binaries for FREE..
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O---------------------------------------------------------------O
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| / \ / \ Frederic POTTER : Equipe R-CUBE, Labo. MASI |
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| / / \ de l'Institut Blaise Pascal |
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| +---+ \ \ |
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| \ \ +---+ Couloir 55-65, 2eme etage. |
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| \ / \ / Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (P6) |
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| Tel : + 33 1 44 27 39 67 Fax : + 33 1 44 27 62 86 |
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o---------------------------------------------------------------o
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Date: 14 Sep 94 13:23:08 GMT
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From: slarsen@gonix.com (Steve Larsen)
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Subject: inb(),outb()--help?
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Hi:
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I would like to write a modem diagnostic program for Linux of the sort
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I used to write for DOS in assembler. But I don't want to write in assembler.
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I want to use C, and am admittedly no wiz. Anyway, I 'ioperm' the correct
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ports, then go to use inb(), and get the "undefined reference to __inb_p()"
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message, or something to that affect, so I know it's tracing it back to
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asm/io.h. Am I leaving out an include file, or do I have to fill out the
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port call w/some sort of define? A one or 2 line example of code would
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be greatly appreciated!
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Thanks for yer time.
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--
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Steve Larsen slarsen@gonix.com splinux!root@orifice.omahug.org
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From: evansmp@mb4715.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
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Subject: Re: AX25 & KISS Amateur Radio Protocols in Linux??
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 15:01:51 GMT
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Peter Onion (onion_p_j@bt-web.bt.co.uk) wrote:
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: Hi, YES is the answer! Alan Cox (iialan @ iifeak.swan.ac.uk) and the
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: guys at swansea are the people to talk to. I'm runing 1.1.35 kernel with
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: 1.twenty somrthing of his networking code. I goes realy well. It even
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: runs WWW (a bit slowly I admit but....). SMTP works ok to NOS systems,
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: but the NNTP in WNOS is not quite up to serving Linux clients (eg tin).
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Have you tried recompiling tin with the NNTP extensions disabled?
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From: allen@chesapeake.rps.slb.com (Marc L. Allen)
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Crossposted-To: gnu.g++.help,gnu.gcc.help,comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: G++ using too much memory?!?
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 14:15:11 GMT
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Ok.. what's the deal with g++ and templates? Everytime I use templates, my
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cc1 compilation pass takes a massive amount of memory.
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For example, I've got a template instantiation file that I use to create
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the single copy of all my template functions. Preprocessed only, it yields
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a 700K file.
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When g++ gets ahold of it, it requires almost 18 megabytes of memory! Why?
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Is there something I can do about this? The resulting object file is only
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300K or so. (No debug symbols) I'm using GCC 2.6.0 with the following
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command line:
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g++ -I- -I./(etc..) -c Templates.c
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Please email any responses. Thanks.
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Marc
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allen@chesapeake.rps.slb.com
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From: goer@quads.uchicago.edu (Richard L. Goerwitz)
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Subject: Re: Acid
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Reply-To: goer@midway.uchicago.edu
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 13:53:32 GMT
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In article <Cw467w.Gq8@cwi.nl> aeb@cwi.nl (Andries Brouwer) writes:
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>
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>I showed that your alleged examples were non-examples, i.e.,
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>in an ideal world, where Linux handles all languages and all
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>character sets equally well, the fragments of code you quoted
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>would not have to change. So, please either come with other
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>examples, or stop repeating this claim.
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Perhaps I misunderstood. If so, it would not be the first time.
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In discussion of the HPFS code, for example, someone mentioned that
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the way the driver was implemented was part of the HPFS standard,
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and not part of Linux. My question is this: Just because the ac-
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cepted standards for HPFS in one environment insist on consistent
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character mappings, does this mean that within another environment
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(GCC/ANSI C/Linux) these mappings will always be the same? I am
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not trying to push any particular line here. If someone knows the
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answer I'd appreciate being enlightened.
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--
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-Richard L. Goerwitz goer%midway@uchicago.bitnet
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goer@midway.uchicago.edu rutgers!oddjob!ellis!goer
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From: davj@ds5000.irb.hr (Davor Jadrijevic)
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Subject: Re: /proc/mtab progress
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 15:06:14 GMT
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: Somebody else is working ona directory /proc/mtab, with subdirectories for
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: each mount point. Much nicer since you can get the path by chdir()/getpwd().
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True, it's Stephen Rothwell <sfr@pdact.pd.necisa.oz.au>. CDrom people prefer
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simple file solution (my solution is actually 30 C lines in kernel code).
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Maybe it could be possible to have both things. One could cd mtab whilst cat
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mtab still working :).
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d.
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--
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<davor%emard.uucp@ds5000.irb.hr>, <davj@ds5000.irb.hr>
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================ Davor Jadrijevic ====================
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Crossposted-To: comp.lang.fortran
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Survey: who wants f77,cc,c++,hpf for linux?
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 15:30:26 GMT
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In article <S.Herbert.3.2E76DE77@shef.ac.uk> S.Herbert@shef.ac.uk writes:
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>>I've benchmarked the Watcom compiler (pre-pentium one which they claim is
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>>much quicker) and gcc beat it fairly soundly.
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>With which DOS extender for the Watcom compiler?
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Not sure I'd have too look it up. But trust me I had more sense than to
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include any DOS calls in the chunk of code I played with.
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>On the Archimedes, Acorn's own compiler produces far, far better code than
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>GCC (and Acorn's compiler is only about 150K compared the the standard
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>megabytes of GCC).
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GCC doesn't/didn't know about the ARM's weird (but neat) conditional
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skip on any instruction. I understand thats in gcc 2.6.x. Has anyone
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compared this with Acorns compiler.
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As to size - gcc is lumbering and a memory eater. Gcc could definitely
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do with a diet.
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>As for benchmarking GCC against 32bit DOS compilers - the context switching
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>involved in running 32 bit compilers under a 16 bit O/S makes such a
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>difference that I don't understand how empirical comparisons can be
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>meaningful (unless you use the same extender for both compilers).
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You don't do anything so daft as to include OS calls in a benchmark. You are
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trying to test the compiler not the OS. You also unplug the network and
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serial ports so you don't have streams of (eg mouse) interrupts disturbing
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the raw code throughput.
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Alan
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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From: wjedwd@isl.com (Julian Edwards)
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Subject: LILO with >1.44Mb floppies
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 15:43:02 GMT
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Has anyone successfully got LILO to boot up while using a floppy formatted to
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>1.44Mb with the kernel floppy patches?
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I'm having big problems with this if I use an older BIOS that doesn't know
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about 2.88Mb floppies.
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I've tried patching LILO so that it doesn't get the disk parameters from the
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BIOS when booting, but it will still fail, which I think is because the BIOS
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cannot actually read the sectors.
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Any help appreciated.
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Cheers,
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Ed
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--
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==============================================================================
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Julian Edwards, Internet Systems Ltd. Woking, Surrey, UK.
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Internet: wjedwd@isl.com (preferred) or julian.edwards@isl.com (MSMAIL, aagh)
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==============================================================================
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Huby (n): A half-erection large enough to be a publicly embarrassing bulge in
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the trousers, but not large enough to be of use to anybody.
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From: werner@cs.sun.ac.za (Werner Fouche )
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Subject: Wanted: DAT Scsi Driver.
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 14:05:36 GMT
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I have an SCSI Exabyte DAT drive that once was connected
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to a VAX, that I would like to use on our SCSI-based Linux
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fileserver. So, far I've could not get Linux to talk to the
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DAT drive. Do I need a special device driver for the DAT
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drive, or should the genetic SCSI support of Linux be sufficient
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to get me to DAT heaven!! :-)
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Thanks
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Werner Fouche'
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From: bart@dunedin.es.co.nz (Bart Kindt)
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Subject: AX25 & KISS Amateur Radio Protocols in Linux??
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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 03:32:35 GMT
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Hi! Is any development going on to support AX25 and KISS protocols, so that
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Linux can be used as a Internet <> Amateur Radio Gateway (Just like KA9Q's
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NOS/NET program)?
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Any info welcome!
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Bart.
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Bart Kindt, System Supervisor, Efficient Software NZ LTD, Dunedin, New Zealand
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Amateur Radio: ZL4FOX / PA2FOX
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