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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Thu, 22 Sep 94 21:13:09 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #207
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Linux-Development Digest #207, Volume #2 Thu, 22 Sep 94 21:13:09 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Installing from a QIC-80 tape? (Thomas Ahn Kj{r)
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Re: aha152x driver lockup on AIC 6360 chips (Bob Crosson)
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Re: Don't use Linux?! (Kay Hamacher)
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Re: Don't use Linux?! (Kay Hamacher)
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COBOL for Linux (Eric Williams @ PCB x5577)
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Re: SIGFPE with atof() (Riku Saikkonen)
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Features Register for use with EIDE driver (John McLaughlin)
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Re: XFig Eats All My Memory. (Rick)
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Re: vt400 terminal emulation (Frank Lofaro)
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Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS (Ian McCloghrie)
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Re: Digi Intelligent Boards? (Chris Camacho)
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XFig Eats All My Memory. (Lucas James Sheneman)
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Proteon Token-Ring Driver Survey (Todd B. Templeton)
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Re: XFig Eats All My Memory. (Gordon Patrick Warren)
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From: takjaer@daimi.aau.dk (Thomas Ahn Kj{r)
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Subject: Re: Installing from a QIC-80 tape?
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Date: 22 Sep 1994 09:43:43 GMT
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Thus spake jbyrns@ic.sunysb.edu (John Byrns):
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>I am trying to upgrade my Linux from an old SLS to Slackware, I now have
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>a Colorado 250mb tape drive and would like to install from it.
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>I was going to copy all install files to a DOS partition, then
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>use a DOS program to back it up to tape. Can I then use this tape
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>to install from?
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No, No.. the DOS-tapes and the Linux-tapes uses a different format,
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so you can't.
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In fact, the whole Slackware distribution is _ONE_ big tar 'file' on the
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tape.
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To install Slackware from tape do it like this: Get ftape working with your
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SLS system (if it's possible) and copy ALL files from Slackware to your
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Linux partition, including the directories a1, a2 ...
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If you can't get ftape working under SLS, do a minimal installation
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from the Slackware disks, remember to include tar, and then copy Slackware
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to your Linux partition. O.K. you can have the Slackware files on your
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DOS partition, if you can access your DOS partition from Linux...
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BTW: get the README.ftape (or similar) from the Slackware dist.
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\thomas
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>Thanks
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>John Byrns
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>jbyrns@ic.sunysb.edu
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From: crosson@cam.nist.gov (Bob Crosson)
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Subject: Re: aha152x driver lockup on AIC 6360 chips
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Date: 22 Sep 94 19:40:54 GMT
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In article <11322@fs3.cam.nist.gov>, crosson@cam.nist.gov (Bob Crosson) writes:
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|> I have a problem with my SCSI driver. My machine runs either
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|> Linux-1.0.9 or 1.1.50 with the aha152x SCSI driver. I think the
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|> problem occurs with both versions of Linux. I was backing up files
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|> (see below) when the errors occurred. I can't be sure of the
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|> version of Linux that was running when this error occurred because
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|> I don't know which version was running at the time. Here's the
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|> error message:
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More information about the problem. I can duplicate the problem
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in a number of ways, all involving reading the suspect file. Copying
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or checksumming the file contents causes the SCSI driver to lock
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up the system. Although I can telnet to the system and be connected,
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but no login prompt ever appears, once the SCSI driver has died.
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With linux-1.1.50 I consistently get the error message
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scsi0: resetting for second half of retries
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When copying the file to another file, 274,432 bytes of 1,398,510
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actually get copied.
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This file, arthur.wav, was written to this file system using tar.
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Accessing the original file, on another machine, doesn't cause that
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system to lock up. The other machine is a Dell 450/ME, running
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Linux-1.1.42 with an AHA1742 SCSI adapter and driver.
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As long as I don't access the bad file, the system runs error free,
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but slowly with a lot of swapping in X-Windows. I have only 8MBytes
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of memory, but will be getting more.
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I probably can remove the problem by rebuilding the partition
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containing the bad file. I assume I'd have to do a surface check
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of the disk to make sure the medium is okay. It just disturbs me
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that the driver couldn't fail more gracefully.
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Bob Crosson
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crosson@cam.nist.gov
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From: kay@lucie.wupper.de (Kay Hamacher)
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Subject: Re: Don't use Linux?!
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Date: 21 Sep 1994 16:34:02 GMT
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In article <35kadv$q3r@rztsun.tu-harburg.de>, behnke@tu-harburg.d400.de (Lutz Behnke HiWi) writes:
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|> In article <34uu83$o4@lucie.wupper.de>, kay@lucie.wupper.de (Kay Hamacher) writes:
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[ some opinions if myself deleted ]
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|> I like your analogy:
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So I do :-)
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|> Its extremly good for the enviroment to have people driving around in old
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|> clunkers that burn a gallon a mile. (no smile, face in rage!)
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I think not, as I am using a KAT and not an very old car (but not the newest
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tachnology, as I am a student and get no money for this :-() I pollute not
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the enviroment as big Software-Companies do with several Up-Dates wich are
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containig complete new hand-books, new disks, new CD's (they are a real
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enviroment problem, see c`t x/94) and produce with this behaviour a lot of
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gabbage.
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|> So just you and I know that Linux is better than Windows means that we are the
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|> profesionals and may be proud of that knowledge.
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Yup!
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|> Now look at it from the other angle: I am trying to make a living of
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|> computers. I have to listen to the whailing of the users all
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|> the time: Why is such and such not working (in a Windows envirment (see former post))
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|> I would like to bring the good news to John Q Public too. But as long as there is
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|> no WYSIWYG text-system for them they will not by it. And as long MS is the
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|> only one able and willing to have an aggressive Ad-Campaign running,
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|> all those lemmings will have to follown the light.
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|> And lets face it: This textsystem may only come from a comercial company.
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|> (pleeezzee surprise me on this one)
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O.K. I understand the point of someone, who is living from selling computer
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stuff. Because I understood, I said, that normal computer-vendors are not
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interested in contributing Linux (or other free software). If I had misunderstood
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this fact, I would be angry about this point, but I am not ! I do not
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thing that it is necassary for Linux to be sold by "Hochschirm" (Ich denke, Du
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weisst, wen ich meine :-) or by other country- or maybe world-wide computer-
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sellers. If this is necassary, Linux would not be there, because Linux
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was created without any support by big selling-numbers.
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I do not agree with the original poster about his point of view, that the
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"Linux-Community" had to do something in order to get Linux run on even every PC.
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Why?
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Linux is now installed on several 100.000 PC's world-wide, so there are more
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users than Windows had in its first days :-]
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I believe that Unix will never be an OS that is used by a high percentage of
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computer-users, as many non-technical-orientated people become computer-users
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(think about many firms using even more computers in their administration as
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they will ever do in research). Especially think about the low education-level
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of most computer-users today. They do not know what this machine is really
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doing. They do not know what a CPU is, what Waitstates are, or why they are
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sometimes necassary, or ....... Their main interest is that their little
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Windows is running and so they must not know anything about these terms.
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Kay
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==========================================================================
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Kay Hamacher Phone : ++ 49 2332 80650
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Milskotter Str. 19 Fax : ++ 49 2332 83518
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58285 Gevelsberg InterNet: kay@lucie.wupper.de
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Federal Republic of Germany - European Union
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Viele Menschen sind zu gut erzogen, um mit vollem Mund zu sprechen,
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aber sie haben keine Bedenken, es mit leerem Kopf zu tun. (Oscar Wilde)
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From: kay@lucie.wupper.de (Kay Hamacher)
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Subject: Re: Don't use Linux?!
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Date: 21 Sep 1994 16:41:59 GMT
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In article <35k9ps$q3r@rztsun.tu-harburg.de>, behnke@tu-harburg.d400.de (Lutz Behnke HiWi) writes:
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|> In article <Cvxs44.55u@rahul.net>, Kevin Martinez <lps@rahul.net> writes:
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|> |> hightec@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de (Michael Schumacher) writes:
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|> [some other burdened comments about software-support deleted]
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|> I see a rather simple answer to this problem of not enough support.
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|> (If there is one)
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|> Wy not have a list of people willing to give tech-support for each country
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|> included in every CD-ROM arcive.
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|> This is the way Richard Stallman envisioned the support for GPL products.
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|> I am a student in one of the two major comercial centers of Germany, so
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(Gut, das im Header Hamburg stand, sonst haette ich jetzt lange ueberlegen
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mussen ;-)
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|> would be glad to help any company or private person in need of some
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|> help installing the Linux package on there PCs. I am pretty shure
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|> I cost less than the support some companies, I are availiable almost
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|> around the clock, and there is no need for the client to understand the
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|> lingo. That beats MS anytime.
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An interesting idea ! But there is one thing : You do not buy every 2 months
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a new CD so you may get very old telephone-numbers and many people may
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become angry about this. So they will not use this service. And :
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The manufactures of CD's have a monopoly. They can let you out of a list and
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you are out (oder auf gut deutsch : Sie lassen Dich am ausgestreckten Arm
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verrecken). That can happen in very short time as you only have to post
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something about these firms here or say anything official about it, so they
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want revenge -> you are out.
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Kay
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--
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==========================================================================
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Kay Hamacher Phone : ++ 49 2332 80650
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Milskotter Str. 19 Fax : ++ 49 2332 83518
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58285 Gevelsberg InterNet: kay@lucie.wupper.de
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Federal Republic of Germany - European Union
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Viele Menschen sind zu gut erzogen, um mit vollem Mund zu sprechen,
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aber sie haben keine Bedenken, es mit leerem Kopf zu tun. (Oscar Wilde)
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From: ewill@wv.mentorg.com (Eric Williams @ PCB x5577)
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Subject: COBOL for Linux
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Date: 21 Sep 1994 23:32:00 GMT
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Does anyone know of a freeware COBOL for Linux? [*]
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Ye gods, I now have work and home Mailing Addresses!
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eric_williams@mentorg.com
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Eric_Scott_Williams@cup.portal.com
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My views; I don't think my company will want 'em!
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(At least not in this newsgroup...)
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[*] No, I am NOT brain dead! I believe that Linux is one of
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the greatest operating systems I have ever seen (although I
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haven't seen Microsoft's NT yet :-).
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I believe, though, that COBOL and its ilk are still useful.
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I have a friend that was using a package written in COBOL --
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he swears at it, but uses it. If COBOL is written for Linux,
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he may be able to use Linux when he replaces his SCO Xenix system.
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(That's assuming the program's vendor is even interested in porting
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his package to Linux...)
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I also have written some stuff in COBOL. It may be wordy, but
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it's useful.
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Subject: Re: SIGFPE with atof()
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From: riku.saikkonen@compart.fi (Riku Saikkonen)
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Date: Thu, 22 Sep 94 17:16:00 +0200
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>Linux 1.0.8, libc.so.4.5.24, gcc 2.5.8, 486DX40.
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>Here's the snippet of code that's causing it. (This works on SunOS 4.1.3)
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...
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> glength = gstop - gstart + 1;
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> for (k = 0; k <= glength; k++)
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> gestr[k] = gstr[gstart+k-1];
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> gestr[glength] = '\0';
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I know nothing of the program in question (xweather, was it?), but...
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This seems to me a quite dubious piece of code. gestr[0] becomes
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gstr[gstart-1]! And the for loop executes glength+1 times. And
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gestr[glength] becomes first gstr[gstart+glength-1] and then '\0'.
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It might just be that Linux is pickier and notices an error...
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Try correcting "for (k = 0; k <= glength; ..." to "for (k = 0; k <
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glenth; ..." and "gstr[gstart+k-1]" to "gstr[gstart+k]". And notify the
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author of the program about this! :)
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-=- Rjs -=- riku.saikkonen@compart.fi - IRC: Rjs
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"For still there are so many things / that I have never seen: /
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in every wood in every spring / there is a different green." - Tolkien
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From: john@sr.hp.com (John McLaughlin)
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Subject: Features Register for use with EIDE driver
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Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 16:55:36 GMT
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Greetings,
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I am looking at modifying the IDE hard drive controller
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(hd.c) to support some of the enhanced IDE transfer modes
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(PIO 3), however I have come across my first issue....
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To put the controller into a new PIO mode, you have to issue
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the set features command, with the feature in the 'features'
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register, however I am not sure what the proper port address is
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for the features register...
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If anybody could point me the right direction, it would be
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appreciated.
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-John
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john@sr.hp.com
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From: pclink@qus102.qld.npb.telecom.com.au (Rick)
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Subject: Re: XFig Eats All My Memory.
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Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 03:48:50 GMT
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russ@wpc18.ed.ray.com (Russell E. Dube) writes:
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>Lucas James Sheneman (sheneman@cs.uidaho.edu) wrote:
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>: I am running Linux 1.1.49, XF86_VGA (from XFree86-2.1.1). When I run
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>: xfig, it rapidly eats up all of my available memory and never actually
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>: pops up. I have 20MB RAM and 25MB swap.
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>FWIW, I have the same problem with 1.0.9 and Slackware 2.0. Eats my
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>available memory (16M machine), never pops up. Please post since
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>undoubtedly others have a need to know. Thanks in advance.
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The file /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/Fig includes Fig-color, which is
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a symlink to Fig. Hence a recursive include and the memort eater is
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born. Comment the line out and all should be well.
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Rick.
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--
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Rick "JT" Lyons | C/C++/x86/X | What claim? Dis claim!
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Telecom Australia | Unix/DOS/Novell | Usenet before net uses you.
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ACN 051 775 556 | |
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work:pclink@qus102.qld.npb.telecom.com.au | play:rick@razorback.brisnet.org.au
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From: ftlofaro@unlv.edu (Frank Lofaro)
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Subject: Re: vt400 terminal emulation
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Date: Thu, 22 Sep 94 19:46:35 GMT
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In article <357q7n$6cr@masala.cc.uh.edu> STUDENT0@gimme.cc.uh.edu () writes:
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>hi, i'm looking for a vt420 terminal emulator that can work under
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>linux/x-window. vt102 just won't suffice........
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>any help would be greatly appreciated
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>
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>vipin k agrawal
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>student0@gimme.cc.uh.edu
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Anywhere on the net we can find control code specs that define vt420?
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If so, where? That would be a big help, then I and others could start
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hacking it in to the xterm code and the console driver (I personally
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would do the kernel console code, but there are probably some people that
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would do the xterm code)
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From: ianm@qualcomm.com (Ian McCloghrie)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS
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Date: 20 Sep 1994 09:47:10 -0700
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jra@zeus.IntNet.net (Jay Ashworth) writes:
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>Now, since we know that IP addresses must be unique, it follows that it is
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>not correct practice to assign the same address to two different
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>interfaces on the same machine.
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This is common practice (and, in fact, required by many TCP/IP protocl
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stacks). Whether or not it is "correct" is unclear. It's quite
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possible to implement routing using the same IP address on two
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interfaces, if one of them is a point-to-point link (namely,
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a slip line). The idea of every physical network having its own
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IP network is ideologically pure. Ideological purity, while clean
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and elegant, is often discarded in favour of optimizations. Given
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the current state of the IP address space, it could easily be argued
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that wasting an entire network on a 2-host point-to-point slip line
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is incorrect behaviour :)
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Keep in mind that BSD is just the most prevalent TCP/IP
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implementation, and not the definition of the protocols.
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\bi/ Ian McCloghrie | FLUG: FurryMUCK Linux User's Group
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\/ email: ian@ucsd.edu | Card Carrying Member, UCSD Secret Islandia Club
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GCS (!)d-(--) p c++ l++(+++) u+ e- m+ s+/+ n+(-) h- f+ !g w+ t+ r y*
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The above represents my personal opinions and not necessarily those
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of my employer, Qualcomm Inc.
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From: cmc@mind.org (Chris Camacho)
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Subject: Re: Digi Intelligent Boards?
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Date: 22 Sep 1994 02:01:29 -0400
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Troy DeJongh (troyd@digibd.digibd.com) wrote:
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:
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: Well, I'm responsible for the maintenance/development of our SCO serial
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: drivers and the development of the Linux driver for our PC/Xe product,
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: and I haven't heard anything like that yet. Plans are to release a
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: Linux driver for our PC/Xe line of products this fall.
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This is terrific! I picked up a PC/8e in the not too distant past and
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have wished for a Linux driver so I could put it to use for some time
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now! :) any chance there might be a mailing when its available? how
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about taking volunteers for testing it? :)
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-Chris
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cmc@mind.org - Public Access Unix in Atlanta - 404/659-5720 - 404/521-0445
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From: sheneman@cs.uidaho.edu (Lucas James Sheneman)
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Subject: XFig Eats All My Memory.
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Date: 20 Sep 1994 16:43:50 GMT
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I am running Linux 1.1.49, XF86_VGA (from XFree86-2.1.1). When I run
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xfig, it rapidly eats up all of my available memory and never actually
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pops up. I have 20MB RAM and 25MB swap.
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Anybody know what's up? Please e-mail me if you can help me. Thanks.
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+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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| Luke Sheneman sheneman@cs.uidaho.edu |
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+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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| Laboratory for Applied Logic, University of Idaho |
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| http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/lal/students/sheneman.dir/sheneman.html |
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+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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From: toddt@phelpsd.com (Todd B. Templeton)
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Subject: Proteon Token-Ring Driver Survey
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Date: 20 Sep 1994 18:18:28 GMT
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Reply-To: toddt@phelpsd.com (Todd B. Templeton)
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I am considering developing a device driver for Proteon token-ring adapters
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and would like to find out what kind of interest there would be for such a
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thing. There is currently an alpha driver for the IBM adapters, but here at
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Phelps Dodge, we use the faster Proteon boards. I would like to find out how
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many people would be interested in a Proteon driver because the SDK and board
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docs cost about $500 and I would like to know the resulting drive will be used
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before buying the kit. Please reply via E-Mail or post flames. :-)
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Thanks in advance
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Todd Templeton | All opinions are solely my own and do not reflect the
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Lead Software Engineer | views of Phelps Dodge Corporation or its management.
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From: warrengo@cps.msu.edu (Gordon Patrick Warren)
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Subject: Re: XFig Eats All My Memory.
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Date: 21 Sep 1994 16:51:31 GMT
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: The Fig-color file includes the Fig file, which is actually a link tot
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: he Fig-color file, which opens the Fig file,.... you get the idea.
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: To fix this, change the include in Fig-color to inckude Fig-standard.
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Or, just remove the #include Fig altogether...this is what
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I did and it works fine.
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-gw
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