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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 94 18:13:10 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #230
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Linux-Development Digest #230, Volume #2 Mon, 26 Sep 94 18:13:10 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Linux on CD (Alan Cox)
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Re: Linux on multiple processors? (Alan Cox)
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Re: AX25 & KISS Amateur Radio Protocols in Linux?? (Alan Cox)
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Re: Internals Guide to Net? (Alan Cox)
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Re: Linux/FreeBSD ISDN support (Neal Dalton)
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Re: Don't use Linux?! (Lutz Behnke HiWi)
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Re: [STATUS] Linus Floppy Driver Development (Albert D. Cahalan)
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Re: SPARC Linux? (Theo de Raadt)
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Need MOTIF Library Clone (C.W. Southern)
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Re: Don't use Linux?! (C. T. Nadovich)
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how 2 join GCC channel? (jon m)
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ext2fs wierdness; bug? (jon m)
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Re: ftape 1.13b overrun (FranzJosef Knelangen)
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Re: 900 MHz CB band??? (jbarrett@onramp.net)
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svgalib problem (Aulas)
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Re: Multiprocessing Pentium Systems (Andrew Anderson)
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PROMISE DC4030VL-2 IDE Controller (joel krauska)
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Re: source for rcs 5.6 (Dave Hines)
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Linux on CD
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:44:06 GMT
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In article <35n85o$sd9@news.parc.xerox.com> boehm@parc.xerox.com (Hans Boehm) writes:
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>Also having done this (with a much slower CDROM drive), I suspect there's
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>another problem. If you're running a big executable from the CDROM,
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>and the kernel needs to page out some of the text segment, it presumably
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>decides that it's already in a file, and there's no reason to write
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>it to the swap space on your disk. When it needs it again, it just
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>reads it in again from the CDROM. Oops. Instead of 40 msecs or so
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>for two seeks on the disk, this just cost you 200msecs (650 in my case)
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>for a seek on the CDROM. (This is largely conjecture. Please correct
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>me if I'm wrong.)
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This is correct. Its a similar problem with NFS. We need a nopage mount
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option to force code pages to local swap for such devices. I find some
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things keep well on CD-ROM notably little used stuff like TeX fonts
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and ghostscript stuff.
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Alan
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--
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Linux on multiple processors?
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:49:49 GMT
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In article <1994Sep20.231705.539@golem.greenie.muc.de> andi@golem.greenie.muc.de (Andi Kleen) writes:
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>: I know that MP (and specifically SMP) is sort of "trendy" these days
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>: (vis. NT and OS/2 SMP), but the particular application for which I am
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>: considering using Linux as a platform (dialin Internet host, web server,
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>: fairly high volume) seems to me to be one for which SMP might give
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>: good results--or at least make it easier to stave off the purchase of
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>: a second machine.
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>: So is this being considered, or at least batted around as a possibility?
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>The HURD (the GNU OS) will (or is planing to) support multiprocessing
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>(through the Mach-kernel)
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For Linux doing none to smart (initially) SMP is being played with at the
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concept level here (pending possible hardware donations). Some other people
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'viper' are working on making the Linux kernel truely threaded but that is
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a much bigger project.
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Alan
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: AX25 & KISS Amateur Radio Protocols in Linux??
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 13:07:09 GMT
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In article <bart.112.00138BA4@dunedin.es.co.nz> bart@dunedin.es.co.nz (Bart Kindt) writes:
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>Hi! Is any development going on to support AX25 and KISS protocols, so that
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>Linux can be used as a Internet <> Amateur Radio Gateway (Just like KA9Q's
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>NOS/NET program)?
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ftp.linux.org.uk:/pub/Linux/RADIO/...
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Also JNOS for Linux is available.
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Alan
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Internals Guide to Net?
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 13:17:27 GMT
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In article <1994Sep21.165833.14520@pvi.com> chrisj@pvi.com (Christopher Michael Joslyn) writes:
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>
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>After a much exhusted search, I haven't been able to find an internals
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>guide to the net code in the kernel (i.e., linux/net/inet). Does anyone
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>know if such a beast exists?
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Only the one in German as part of the german book on Linux kernel internals.
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I don't know how good it is as I could only follow the pictures ;)
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Alan
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--
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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Crossposted-To: umn.net-lists.linux-activists
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From: nrd@scrapie.med.umn.edu (Neal Dalton)
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Subject: Re: Linux/FreeBSD ISDN support
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 15:04:09 GMT
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I called Digiboard about there ISDN board and asked if they supported
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Linux or FreeBSD. They told that they didn't support either, so I them
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why did not support and they told me they had seen the demand for it.
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They where planning on a SCO driver.
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So, I think everyone should, on principle, call Digiboard and tell them
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that they want this support.
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DigiBoard * 6400 Flying Cloud Drive, Eden Prairie, MN 55344 * (612) 943-9020 or (800) 344-4273 * FAX (612) 943-5398
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* E-Mail: info@digibd.com * Faxback Service: 612-943-0573 * WWW: http://www.digibd.com/
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European Office * DigiBoard GmbH * Domkloster 1, 50667 Koln Germany *
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+49 (0) 221 92052 0 * FAX: +49 (0) 221 92052 10
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* E-Mail: same as above
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DigiBoard-Asia Pte. Ltd. * Blk 19, Kallang Avenue #07-163, Singapore, 1233 *
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+65 292 5998 * FAX: +65 292 2701
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From: behnke@tu-harburg.d400.de (Lutz Behnke HiWi)
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Subject: Re: Don't use Linux?!
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Date: 26 Sep 1994 16:29:50 GMT
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In article <35pn9q$4m@lucie.wupper.de>, kay@lucie.wupper.de (Kay Hamacher) writes:
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|> In article <35kadv$q3r@rztsun.tu-harburg.de>, behnke@tu-harburg.d400.de (Lutz Behnke HiWi) writes:
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|> |> Now look at it from the other angle: I am trying to make a living of
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|> |> computers. I have to listen to the whailing of the users all
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|> |> the time: Why is such and such not working (in a Windows envirment (see former post))
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|> |> I would like to bring the good news to John Q Public too. But as long as there is
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|> |> no WYSIWYG text-system for them they will not by it. And as long MS is the
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|> |> only one able and willing to have an aggressive Ad-Campaign running,
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|> |> all those lemmings will have to follown the light.
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|> |> And lets face it: This textsystem may only come from a comercial company.
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|> |> (pleeezzee surprise me on this one)
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|> O.K. I understand the point of someone, who is living from selling computer
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|> stuff. Because I understood, I said, that normal computer-vendors are not
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|> interested in contributing Linux (or other free software). If I had misunderstood
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|> this fact, I would be angry about this point, but I am not ! I do not
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|> thing that it is necassary for Linux to be sold by "Hochschirm" (Ich denke, Du
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|> weisst, wen ich meine :-) or by other country- or maybe world-wide computer-
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|> sellers. If this is necassary, Linux would not be there, because Linux
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|> was created without any support by big selling-numbers.
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I don't sell Hardware. 'Hochschirm' (A major distributor in germany) does that
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*cheaper* than me.
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|> I do not agree with the original poster about his point of view, that the
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|> "Linux-Community" had to do something in order to get Linux run on even every PC.
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|> Why?
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|> Linux is now installed on several 100.000 PC's world-wide, so there are more
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|> users than Windows had in its first days :-]
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|> I believe that Unix will never be an OS that is used by a high percentage of
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|> computer-users, as many non-technical-orientated people become computer-users
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|> (think about many firms using even more computers in their administration as
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|> they will ever do in research). Especially think about the low education-level
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|> of most computer-users today. They do not know what this machine is really
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|> doing. They do not know what a CPU is, what Waitstates are, or why they are
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|> sometimes necassary, or ....... Their main interest is that their little
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|> Windows is running and so they must not know anything about these terms.
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What I do is sell support! And my main problem is that MS makes the general
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public believe that they may use a computer as easy as a TV-Set (some may not
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even handle that correctly) wich simply is not true!
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So people (even ones in the big offices, with a real world window =B-) )
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see the bright colors of Winsnooze and of the double paged MS ad in their
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paper. They send someone to buy it, not asking if the printer even works with
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Windows. Than they curse Computers in general and are not wiling to pay my
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prices and especialy are not happy if I have to tell them, that because of
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their special needs, the MS office bundle has to finds its way to the dumpster.
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People don't need to to know about waitstates. But if they don't they should
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ask a technician to set the channels on their TV-Set.
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|>
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|>
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|> Kay
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mfg. Lutz
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| Lutz Behnke | behnke@tu-harburg.d400.de |(Germany) +40 / 630 39 38 |
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| TU Hamburg Harburg, Hamburg, Germany, Europe, Earth, Sol-System |
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|----------When the Evil Spirit armed the Tiger with claws,----------|
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|----------------Brahma gave wings to the Dove-----------------------|
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From: adc@zeta.coe.neu.edu (Albert D. Cahalan)
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Subject: Re: [STATUS] Linus Floppy Driver Development
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Date: 26 Sep 1994 16:37:16 GMT
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In article <wpp.780578439@marie> wpp@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Kai Petzke) writes:
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mwikholm@at8.abo.fi (Mats 'MaDsen' Wikholm) writes:
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>possible to automagically mount the floppy only when it is accessed. I
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>mean that you don't have to have it mounted before you access it so
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>when you try to access it the system checks if it is mounted and if it
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>isn't it gets mounted. If there's no disk in it you get a flaming
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>error.
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That sounds like a good idea. Actually, the NFS automounter works
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that way. Can it be changed to handle floppy mounts as well?
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Also unmount after 90 seconds of inactivity or when all files are closed.
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--
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Albert Cahalan
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adc@meceng.coe.neu.edu
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From: deraadt@fsa.ca (Theo de Raadt)
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Subject: Re: SPARC Linux?
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Date: 25 Sep 1994 08:15:33 GMT
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In article <35sm09$irk@clarknet.clark.net> mjf@clark.net (Marc Fraioli) writes:
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Some people were discussing it a couple weeks ago, but it doesn't
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actually exist. The discussion was hypothetical. There is however,
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a version of one of the free BSDs currently in beta on the SPARC.
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Ask on, say, comp.sys.sun.misc about it.
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Yes. NetBSD/sparc -- send me mail if interested.
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It can run most SunOS executables.
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--
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This space not left unintentionally unblank. deraadt@fsa.ca
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
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From: cws9669@ultb.isc.rit.edu (C.W. Southern)
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Subject: Need MOTIF Library Clone
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Reply-To: cws9669@ultb.rit.edu ()
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 17:44:00 GMT
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I am looking for MOTIF libraries. I don't need MOTIF, just the libraries.
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I once saw that someone metion that there where some MOTIF Library clones
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out there. Does anyone know about this? Can anyone help.
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thanks
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--
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Chris Southern RIT Computer Science
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E-mail: cws9669@ultb.rit.edu WWW: http://ultb.rit.edu/~cws9669
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From: chris@kd3bj.uucp (C. T. Nadovich)
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Subject: Re: Don't use Linux?!
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Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 01:19:23 GMT
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shendrix@escape.widomaker.com (Shannon Hendrix) writes:
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>So if people seem to want their DOS software maybe it's because they
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>know if they like it or not. Something they have never seen before is
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>a little harder to trust until you've had a chance to try it and trying
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>it is very hard in the UNIX world.
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I can rephrase this slightly to make it more accurate with regard to DOS
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software.
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"
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So if people seem to want their DOS software maybe it's because they
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know if they like it or not. Something they have never seen before is
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a little harder to trust until they've had a chance to bootleg a copy
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and run it for a year or two. Bootlegging useful commercial software
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is very hard in the UNIX world.
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"
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Microsoft bitches about bootlegging, but it has made them the company
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they are today.
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--
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73 de KD3BJ (Chris Nadovich, chris@kd3bj.ampr.org)
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Subject: how 2 join GCC channel?
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From: icqo409@iupui.edu (jon m)
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Date: 24 Sep 94 22:54:11 -0500
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i got all the elf stuff, and i got questions...
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how do i join the channel?
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sorry 4 your time...
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jon
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--
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jon madison
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oit consultant in training
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"A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe
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in God." -anonymous, from a fortune program on one of my accounts. :)
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Subject: ext2fs wierdness; bug?
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From: icqo409@iupui.edu (jon m)
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Date: 24 Sep 94 23:02:38 -0500
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how to make sense of this:
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root@computer:/# du -xck
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[blah blah]...
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5299
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5299 total
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and...
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root@computer:/# df .
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Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on
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/dev/hda2 19922 18470 423 98% /
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^^^^^??????
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what's the deal?
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why is df saying i only have 423 left, and 18470 used, and du
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says i'm only using 5299????
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is this a bug?
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--
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jon madison
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oit consultant in training
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"A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe
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in God." -anonymous, from a fortune program on one of my accounts. :)
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From: fjk@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (FranzJosef Knelangen)
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Subject: Re: ftape 1.13b overrun
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Date: 26 Sep 1994 10:13:04 GMT
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Timothy Murphy (tim@maths.tcd.ie) wrote:
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: A.Couture@agora.stm.it writes:
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: >The problems are when I write to tapes, I get a lots of write errors and
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: >also a lots of overruns.
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: >Does anybody experiencing the same problems?
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: I get the same overruns with my Colorado Jumbo
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: (with Linux 1.1.50 on a 386/25).
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This SHOULD go away after a "mt -f /dev/rft? erase", if not,
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format your drive: amazingly this does NOT work with my Colorado "tape.exe"
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as this seems not to exclude/mark bad blocks (??); with my old pc-tools 7.1
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it worked without problems. (No idea, why)
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BTW: did you check out /dev/rft0 AND /dev/rft1? For me, only the latter works.
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Happy backupping: FJK
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: The difference is that ftape-1.13 is able to recover,
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: whereas earlier versions of ftape were not, in my experience.
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: My impression is that it is worse with tar than afio.
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: --
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: Timothy Murphy
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: e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie
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: tel: +353-1-2842366
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: s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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--
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Franz-Josef Knelangen | Deutsches Seminar II | email: fjk@ruf.uni-freiburg.de
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Karlstr. 42, 79104 FR | Univers. FR 79085 FR | finger: fjk@sun2.ruf.uni-[...]
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Voicenet: 0761-39479 | Voice: 0761-203-3241 | Lektuere: Carlos Fuentes,
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FAX: +49 761-39479 | FAX: +49761-203-3355 | Terra Nostra (1200 S., dtv)
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From: jbarrett@onramp.net
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Subject: Re: 900 MHz CB band???
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 94 16:40:25 PDT
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<jra@zeus.IntNet.net> writes:
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>
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> Forgive me, but _which_ Radio Shack HT's are those? I assume you mean the
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> "business band" radios, made (I think) by Uniden. They live on
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Nope.... the FM headset rigs with vox.... I thot those were 900mhz range
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Could be wrong
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John Barrett
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From: jules@shagshag.frmug.fr.net (Aulas)
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Subject: svgalib problem
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Date: 25 Sep 1994 10:50:33 GMT
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Hi !
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On my linux 1.0.9's system, when i tent to compil a C source code using a
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<math.h>, <vga.h> and <vgagl.h> (from the svgalib package), i get
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$ gcc -o test1 test1.c -lm
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/tmp/cca01261.o: Undefined symbol _vga_init referenced from text segment
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(the -lm is used for the linking properly <math.h>)
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If anyone can help, please answer in this newsgroup, or
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via email at jules@shagshag.frmug.fr.net.
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thanx
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--
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shagshag: (16.1) 40.30.04.68
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login: new ou nuucp, pas de passes.
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From: andrew@amelia.db.erau.edu (Andrew Anderson)
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Subject: Re: Multiprocessing Pentium Systems
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Date: 24 Sep 1994 06:13:05 GMT
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Huw Leonard (huw@isgtec.com) wrote:
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: WinNT works well on many multi-processor systems. IBM seems to be on the verge
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: of releasing an SMP OS/2, as well. The problem, as I understand it, is that
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: there is no firm multi-processor standard yet. The problem with working up an
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: SMP or MPX version of Linux would be having to support all of the wierd
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: variations of the architecture. Perhaps when manufacturers have a consistent
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: standard, multi-processor Linux would be more feasable.
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: Is this opinion incorrect? Comments?
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My understanding is that the Pentium has hardware MP support, so
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it would appear that Intel is providing the lead for Pentium MP
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develpment. Has anyone else heard this?
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| Andrew Anderson andrew@db.erau.edu |
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| Novell Network System Administrator "Making the impossible |
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| Linux System Administrator possible -- daily!" |
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| I don't speak for ERAU, and God knows I don't want them to speak for me! |
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From: joel krauska <jkrauska@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: PROMISE DC4030VL-2 IDE Controller
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Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 21:36:17 -0500 (CDT)
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I'm looking for anyone who has used this card and has seen/tried any
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drivers for it for linux.. The main problem is getting linux to "see" the
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3rd and 4th IDE drives.. It see's the first 2 fine.
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Joel Krauska (about to call PROMISE)
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From: vj@dl.ac.uk (Dave Hines)
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Subject: Re: source for rcs 5.6
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Date: 26 Sep 1994 16:28:49 GMT
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Wai Long Fong (s923383@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU) wrote:
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: I am looking for source code of version control software such as the one
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: that comes with Slackware 2.0, rcs 5.6. Actually, source code for any
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: version control package will be alright. Thanks a lot in advance.
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When you find & build it, be aware that there is a compile time option
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in RCS-5.6.0.1 which is not documented, though it used to be in an older
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version. I've let the authors know, and they say that they'll document
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it in the next release, but until then...
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In the man page for rcs, it says:
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-L Set locking to strict. Strict locking means that the
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owner of an RCS file is not exempt from locking for
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checkin. This option should be used for files that are
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shared.
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-U Set locking to non-strict. Non-strict locking means
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that the owner of a file need not lock a revision for
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checkin. This option should not be used for files that
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are shared. Whether default locking is strict is
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determined by your system administrator, but it is nor-
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mally strict.
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As the system administrator, to make the default locking non-strict, you
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need to add "-DSTRICT_LOCKING=0" to the CFLAGS in the Makefile before
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compiling.
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Cheers,
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Dave.
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David Hines, Daresbury Lab, <D.P.Hines@dl.ac.uk>
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Warrington, WA4 4AD, U.K. Tel: +44 1925 603357
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