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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 94 08:13:20 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #233
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Linux-Development Digest #233, Volume #2 Tue, 27 Sep 94 08:13:20 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: [STATUS] Linus Floppy Driver Development (Alan Hightower)
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ISODE (Aleph One)
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Re: Ftape bombs my system with 66MHz CPU (Ulf Griesmann)
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people using SCSI-IN2000 driver, please read this (Stefan Markgraf)
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Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS (Frank van Maarseveen)
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Adaptec AHA-2842VL driver ... (Bryan Jon Smith)
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Re: Don't use Linux?! (Lutz Behnke HiWi)
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Re: Linux on Pentium P90 PCI---which motherboard? (Kevin Martinez)
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Re: HDD Controller Question (Carlos Dominguez)
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Re: Linux on Pentium P90 PCI---which motherboard? (Martin Oldfield)
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Re: What user interface to use??? (Jeff Kesselman)
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Re: Special Sale On QNX! (Jeff Kesselman)
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elf benchmarks (getting closer) (John Richardson)
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Re: [STATUS] Linus Floppy Driver Development (Alan Cox)
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From: ahightow@comp..uark.edu (Alan Hightower)
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Subject: Re: [STATUS] Linus Floppy Driver Development
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Date: 27 Sep 1994 02:28:17 GMT
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adc@zeta.coe.neu.edu (Albert D. Cahalan) writes:
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>In article <wpp.780578439@marie> wpp@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Kai Petzke) writes:
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> mwikholm@at8.abo.fi (Mats 'MaDsen' Wikholm) writes:
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> >possible to automagically mount the floppy only when it is accessed. I
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> >mean that you don't have to have it mounted before you access it so
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> >when you try to access it the system checks if it is mounted and if it
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> >isn't it gets mounted. If there's no disk in it you get a flaming
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> >error.
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> That sounds like a good idea. Actually, the NFS automounter works
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> that way. Can it be changed to handle floppy mounts as well?
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>Also unmount after 90 seconds of inactivity or when all files are closed.
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Noway! It's already been said and repeatedly confirmed that the DCL
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will work for disks removed... simple, when someone cd's into /floppy or
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something (maybe /flop0 etc..) simply automount this disk... don't do
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anything till the DCL changes (e.g. disk eject) then umount it.
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Alan.
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From: aleph1@dfw.net (Aleph One)
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Subject: ISODE
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Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 01:21:03 GMT
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I'am about to try to port the ISODE v7.0 package to linux.. (i should
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really say try to). In any case i was wondering if anyone has doen this
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already as i dont like to do things other people have done. Thanx.
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From: ulfg@groundhog.phy.nist.gov (Ulf Griesmann)
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Subject: Re: Ftape bombs my system with 66MHz CPU
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Date: 27 Sep 1994 03:31:06 GMT
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Alberto Vignani (alberto.vignani@pmn.it) wrote:
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: Has anybody some experience of running ftape with DX2-66 CPUs? AMD
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: CPUs?
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Yes, I am using ftape on a machine with AMD DX2-66. No problems.
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Cheerio,
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Ulf
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Ulf Griesmann \\\\\ Tel.: (301) 975 3212
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National Institute of \\\\\ Fax.: (301) 990 1350
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Standards & Technologies \\\\\ e-mail:
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Atomic Physics Division \\\\\ ulfg@groundhog.phy.nist.gov
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Gaithersburg MD 20899, U.S.A. \\\\\ ulfg@aeldata.phy.nist.gov
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=================================\\\\\================================
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Speaking only for myself, not for NIST
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From: stefan@pippi.tu-bs.de (Stefan Markgraf)
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Subject: people using SCSI-IN2000 driver, please read this
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Date: 26 Sep 1994 16:33:15 GMT
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Hi!
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Is anybody able to fix the problem with the in2000 driver?
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Sometimes while swapping (to a swap-partition) the driver crashes.
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No read/writes are possible and therefore every process begins to hang
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when it needs access to the disk. The HD light burns constantly.
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Console switching (during the driver crash) is possible as long as
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Xfree do not use the disk or when working at a plain text console.
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However, each console begins to hang as soon as a process needs disk access
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(e.g. excuting a new command)
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"ping" from other machines result in "<hostname> is alive."
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My in2000-bios version is 1.03, the hardware-version is 27 (bootup message)
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kernel is 1.1.50 with 16 MB, 17 MB swap-space on a swap partition. I use
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the newest version of the in2000.c.
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(My memory "upgrade" 8->16 MB has shown, that the driver crashing occurs
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more seldom --- this is a result of fewer swapping requests, I suppose).
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I HAVE READ THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE USING THE IN2000 DRIVER WITHOUT
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PROBLEMS. PERHAPS WE CAN FIND OUT THE BIOS- AND HARDWARE-VERSIONS
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WHICH WORK AND WHICH DO NOT WORK. PLEASE POST (OR SEND ME MAIL) YOUR
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CONFIGURATION (KERNEL, RAM, SWAP-TYPE AND SPACE, HARDDRIVE) AND
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IN2000-VERSION HERE. PLEASE WRITE IF CRASHING OCCURS OR NOT.
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Perhaps we can fix this nasty bug.
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Another question: Perhaps one of the gurus can post us how to set up
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the in2000 driver for intelligent debugging. I tried to set "#define DEBUG" in
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in2000.c, redirected kernel-errors/debug/crit-messages of the syslogd to
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/dev/console and recompiled the kernel. However there are so many
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messages, that I cannot bootup again.
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Okidoki,
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Stefan.
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\\|//
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(^ ^)
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======================ooO=(_)=Ooo=======================================
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sig: Stefan { } stefan@geophys.nat.tu-bs.de
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Markgraf { } Phone: +49 531 391 5231
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{ }
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=========================U===U==========================================
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/| | |\
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ooO Ooo
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.admin,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
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From: fvm@tasking.nl (Frank van Maarseveen)
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Subject: Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS
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Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 17:34:13 GMT
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I saw a posting in comp.os.solaris recently about assigning multiple
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IP addresses to the same adapter! (on a SparcStation with Solaris 2.x)
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This was done in order to route something across the same physical network
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without the need for an extra adapter. The second "virtual" adapter was
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referred to as le0:1, the ":1" part appended to the original adapter name.
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Though a bit unusual, there's nothing wrong with this I think.
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I suppose there are no plans yet for implementing this feature in linux.
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--
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______________________________________________________________________
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Frank van Maarseveen _____ _ _ fvm@tasking.nl
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Tasking BV /_ / |_/ /
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Plotterweg 31 / \/_/ _/ phone : +31 33 558584
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Amersfoort, The Netherlands fax : +31 33 550033
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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When I hear of Schrodingers cat, I reach for my gun --- S. W. Hawking
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From: ind00237@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Bryan Jon Smith)
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Subject: Adaptec AHA-2842VL driver ...
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Date: 26 Sep 1994 12:57:55 -0400
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Is there a AHA-2842VL driver available for Linux? Is so where
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can I get it? Also, are their any distributions that already come with it?
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Thankx ...
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--- Smith, Bryan Jon -------------- ind00237@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu ---------
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| 1006 Teague Court | BSEE Undergraduate |
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| Oviedo, FL 32765-7002 | University of Central Florida |
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| (407) 365-4693 | Orlando, FL USA |
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=========================================================================
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| Go UNIX young man! Go UNIX! | Be young. Have fun. Run UNIX. |
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| This is brain, X-Windows; this is your brain on drugs, DOS/Windows |
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From: behnke@tu-harburg.d400.de (Lutz Behnke HiWi)
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Subject: Re: Don't use Linux?!
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Date: 26 Sep 1994 16:38:02 GMT
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In article <35pnon$4m@lucie.wupper.de>, kay@lucie.wupper.de (Kay Hamacher) writes:
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|> In article <35k9ps$q3r@rztsun.tu-harburg.de>, behnke@tu-harburg.d400.de (Lutz Behnke HiWi) writes:
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|> |> In article <Cvxs44.55u@rahul.net>, Kevin Martinez <lps@rahul.net> writes:
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|> |> |> hightec@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de (Michael Schumacher) writes:
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|> |> [some other burdened comments about software-support deleted]
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|> |> I see a rather simple answer to this problem of not enough support.
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|> |> (If there is one)
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|>
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|> |> Wy not have a list of people willing to give tech-support for each country
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|> |> included in every CD-ROM arcive.
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|> |> This is the way Richard Stallman envisioned the support for GPL products.
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|> |> I am a student in one of the two major comercial centers of Germany, so
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|> (Gut, das im Header Hamburg stand, sonst haette ich jetzt lange ueberlegen
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|> mussen ;-)
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I wuerde mich gern fuer die 'zwei' entschuldigen! Es sind mehr ich weiss!
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|> |> would be glad to help any company or private person in need of some
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|> |> help installing the Linux package on there PCs. I am pretty shure
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|> |> I cost less than the support some companies, I are availiable almost
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|> |> around the clock, and there is no need for the client to understand the
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|> |> lingo. That beats MS anytime.
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|> An interesting idea ! But there is one thing : You do not buy every 2 months
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|> a new CD so you may get very old telephone-numbers and many people may
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|> become angry about this. So they will not use this service. And :
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|> The manufactures of CD's have a monopoly. They can let you out of a list and
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|> you are out (oder auf gut deutsch : Sie lassen Dich am ausgestreckten Arm
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|> verrecken). That can happen in very short time as you only have to post
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|> something about these firms here or say anything official about it, so they
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|> want revenge -> you are out.
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Even in the relativly small german market (only about 100 Million potential
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german speaking customers =B-) ) there are more than one CD-Vendors.
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So if I get thrown of one list for mouthing of against a company (wich
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I wouldn't do in public) another company would keep or take me on their list
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The age is a problem. But not if you are giving support for a living!
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Then you are interested on a stable address, good reachability, etc.
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So these List would be worthwhile (IMHO)
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|> Kay
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mfg Lutz
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| Lutz Behnke | behnke@tu-harburg.d400.de |(Germany) +40 / 630 39 38 |
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| TU Hamburg Harburg, Hamburg, Germany, Europe, Earth, Sol-System |
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|----------When the Evil Spirit armed the Tiger with claws,----------|
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|----------------Brahma gave wings to the Dove-----------------------|
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
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From: Kevin Martinez <lps@rahul.net>
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Subject: Re: Linux on Pentium P90 PCI---which motherboard?
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Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 00:47:26 GMT
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pratt@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU (Vaughan R. Pratt) writes:
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>If Linux runs on your Pentium P90 PCI, or you know of a working such,
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>I'd appreciate knowing what motherboard did the trick.
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>--
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>Vaughan Pratt http://boole.stanford.edu/boole.html
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I got a Dell Optiplex 590 that works fine. It has the Intel Neptune
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chipset as far as I can tell. The motherboard is proprietary to Dell and
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wouldn't fit in anything else by the look of it.
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--
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========================================================================
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Kevin Martinez lps@rahul.net Member of the John De Armond Fan Club
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I owe all my success to Roly Poly Fish Heads! Call: 1 510 676 1111
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From: carlos@dorsai.dorsai.org (Carlos Dominguez)
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Subject: Re: HDD Controller Question
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Reply-To: carlos@dorsai.dorsai.org
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 04:15:01 GMT
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Cary B. Abend (cary@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu) wrote:
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: My question: I know that IDE cards that support 4 HDD exist and work
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: under DOS (presumably with some kind of BIOS bypass). Will (or which
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: of) these cards work with Linux?
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Cary,
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You have the atdisk2 patches, which are meant for *two* IDE controller
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cards, not one card with two IDE channels. I own a buslogic BT410A that has
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on-board BIOS to goad DOS into accepting up to four drives. Since this
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is the development group, perhaps someone out there could look at the
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atdisk2 code and perhaps see why it won't work? Maybe re-work some
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code so we could get hd1's some day ;-)
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--
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__ __ __ | .__. __. :::: Carlos Dominguez - Cyberdude & Gophermaster
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|__ |__| | | |__| .__| :::: carlos@dorsai.dorsai.org
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____________________________ I'm Looking for employment in the NYC area.
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From: mjo@mrao.cam.ac.uk (Martin Oldfield)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Re: Linux on Pentium P90 PCI---which motherboard?
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Date: 27 Sep 1994 09:04:05 GMT
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>>>>> "David" == David S Vickers <vickersd@montana.et.byu.edu> writes:
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In article <VICKERSD.94Sep24214416@montana.et.byu.edu> vickersd@montana.et.byu.edu (David S. Vickers) writes:
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David> pratt@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU (Vaughan R. Pratt) writes:
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>> If Linux runs on your Pentium P90 PCI, or you know of a working
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>> such, I'd appreciate knowing what motherboard did the trick.
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>> -- Vaughan Pratt http://boole.stanford.edu/boole.html
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David> I recently built a system for someone with an Intel Plato
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David> P54C motherboard which used the Neptune chipset. I used an
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David> NCR SCSI controler with a patched kernel (version 1.1.19).
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David> The first motherboard I got had a flakey cache, and
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David> upgrading the BIOS didn't help. I replaced the
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David> motherboard, and everything has worked flawlessly since.
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I've also installed Linux 1.1.49 on a Plato / Neptune board. We had
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problems with the original bios (version X.X.3) but an upgrade (to
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X.X.10) solved that. I'm running it with:
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Orchid Kelvin 64 on PCI
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SMC Ultra on ISA
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FD 1650 SCSI on ISA
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There's a small problem cleaning up when X shuts down - the text mode
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font gets screwed up, but that's probably an X problem.
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Cheers,
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--
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Martin Oldfield, MRAO, Cavendish Labs, CAMBRIDGE, CB3 0HE
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Work: 0223 337365 Fax: 0223 354599 Home: 0223 67940
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I never resist temptation, because I have found that things that
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are bad for me do not tempt me - Shaw
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
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From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman)
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Subject: Re: What user interface to use???
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 01:36:35 GMT
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In article <CwoJnp.4tM@news.cern.ch>,
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Sergio Fanchiotti <fanchiot@surya1.cern.ch> wrote:
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>jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman) writes:
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>
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>>In article <tony.69.000C2DAA@teleport.com>,
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>>Tony Schwartz <tony@teleport.com> wrote:
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>>>When do dial into your local ISP using a standard terminal connection, what
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>>>software is used to providet the menuing, ability to do internet functions
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>>>like telnet, ftp, gopher, etc???
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>>telnet provides telnet.
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>>ftp provides ftp
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>>gopher provides gopher
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>>etc.
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>>there is no menuing as such, they axre all command-line driven.
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>>All these UNIX utilities are designed to be run from the command line.
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>>The menuing systems you might be familiar with are all front ends that
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>>call these programs.
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>
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>>Oh, and manual pages are veiwed byt typing man.
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>>(Type 'man man' for an explaination of how to use the online manual.)
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>>Welcome to the real world of UNIX.
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>On the other hand, most of these utilities have been integrated into the
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>World Wide Web protocol and can be accessed via clients. When you are
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>using a terminal one could use Lynx for ftp, telnet connections, gopher
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>and much more! Definitively a great tool...
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> Saludos,
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>
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> ...Sergio
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>
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>ps: An as we are in the "real world of UNIX" here is the best thing:
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> You can get the program and docs at ftp2.cc.ukans.edu in pub/lynx
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>
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Okay, I was a little snide, and I admit it and apologize. The point
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hwoever was that when one uses a 'standard terminal connection' (as
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opposed to a SLIP connection) one is entering the raw UNIX domain, which
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can actually be alot mroe powerful (if you considr effeiciency to be a
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form of power) then any fancy graphical front-end. My other point
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was that this is what all these other things are built on top of, so you
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lose almost nothing but eye-candy, and gain bandwidth.
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Jeff Kesselman
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From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman)
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Subject: Re: Special Sale On QNX!
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 01:51:14 GMT
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In article <CwpIGD.GyH@pe1chl.ampr.org>, Rob Janssen <pe1chl@rabo.nl> wrote:
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>In <CwoFHF.Hxs@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> scheidel@gate.net () writes:
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>
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>>Why settle for slow and obselete Unix such as UnixWare, Sun Solaris,
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>>SCO, Linux or BSD when you can have POWER & RELIABILITY with QNX 4.21!
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>>Stop playing games with these inferior o/s's and switch to QNX today.
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>
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>Hey come on, a bit more humble announcements would be nice!
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>Especially from someone who posts the same article twice in the same
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>group. Done under QNX, I suppose?
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>
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>Rob
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>--
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>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>| Rob Janssen | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org |
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>| e-mail: pe1chl@rabo.nl | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8UTR.#UTR.NLD.EU |
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>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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I doubt anybodyu who posts crap like this actually bothers to read the
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responses, but just to make me feel good, pardon while I indluge myself:
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To Florida Datamation:
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Hey there. You guys MUST be engineers, 'cause you sure know squat about
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people. Posting a message saying 'what you are using STINKS, come try
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ours' in a forum dedicated to fans of said product is truely stupid
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marketing. All it does is gain you nasty looks and bad feelings from
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exactly the people you are trying to see to.
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As an example, I've considered QNX a couple of times for real-time
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control projects, but your obvious lack of understanding of the community
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has certainly given me pause as to how much you understand about UNIX.
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Your sweeping claims make me doubt the mroe reasonable claims I've
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heard. (Oh, and the fact that you are in FL doesn't hep either, I'm
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afraid. I've lived in FL and know about the overal business ethics
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environment...)
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I think Ill examine it ALOT closer before I start seriously considering it
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for future projects.
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Have a nice day.
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From: jrichard@cs.uml.edu (John Richardson)
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Subject: elf benchmarks (getting closer)
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Date: 25 Sep 1994 03:50:45 GMT
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As a quick followup to my very unscientific benchmark:
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The with the latest gcc (23-Sept) and the 4.6.11 elf libraries,
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elf narrows the time gap to about a 3.5% difference using the qsort() test.
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Intel 486DX2/66, 16 meg RAM, linux 1.1.51
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John Richardson
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jrichard@cs.uml.edu
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: [STATUS] Linus Floppy Driver Development
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 09:21:52 GMT
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In article <DHOLLAND.94Sep17154858@husc7.harvard.edu> dholland@husc7.harvard.edu (David Holland) writes:
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>I additionally think it's not reasonable to force the user to look up
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>the filesystem type and issue a mount command before reading from the
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>disk. Floppies should mount themselves (like on Macs and Amigas) to
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>the greatest extent possible given the hardware.
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Install amd. That will happily do the job. As to identifying file system
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types thats also a ten line user program.
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Alan
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