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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 22:13:07 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #243
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Linux-Development Digest #243, Volume #2 Thu, 29 Sep 94 22:13:07 EDT
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Contents:
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xpat2-1.00 BETA release for testing (Michael Bischoff)
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Re: Time Zone (H. Peter Anvin)
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Re: problems compiling kernel 1.1.45+ for scsi (Mika Kuoppala)
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i486 Word length, anyone? (Riku Saikkonen)
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unique timestamp in kernel code? (Heiko Schlittermann)
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PPC (PowerMac) port status? (Zack T. Smith)
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Re: 1+ Gig SCSI Drives // (Thomas E Zerucha)
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Telnet Troubles... (Thomas E Zerucha)
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Porting from SunOS to Linux (Dynamic Linking) (DRACO)
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ISDN Support for Linux (Pete Dalinis)
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Re: Adaptec 1542/SCSI under Linux (Riku Meskanen)
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Re: Trouble using "execl" (Mitchum DSouza)
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Re: More ELF. (Mitchum DSouza)
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Re: Memory in 1.1.50: What is data? (Kevin Martinez)
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Re: Don't use Linux?! (Mike Jagdis)
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Shared Libs: working toward a permanent solution? (Mike Jagdis)
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X11--is 2MB supported on ET4000 yet (Bill Kress)
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Re: [STATUS] Linus Floppy Driver Development (Michael James Porter)
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Re: IF YOU HAVE A MAGNETO-OPTICAL DRIVE... (Han Kim)
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From: mbi@math.nat.tu-bs.de (Michael Bischoff)
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Subject: xpat2-1.00 BETA release for testing
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Date: 29 Sep 1994 13:15:26 GMT
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Reply-To: mbi@mo.math.nat.tu-bs.de
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Hello,
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I have uploaded a BETA release of xpat2 (the sequel to xpat) to
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mo.math.nat.tu-bs.de in /pub/in.
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It should look like
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-rw-r----- 1 ftp other 301444 Sep 29 14:57 xpat2-1.00-beta2.tar.gz
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(Sources only, you need the xpm library to compile it)
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I am interested in bug reports, before I upload to tsx and sunsite.
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There is one bug known: On systems short of memory, parts of the window
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are not redrawn completely after a window resize event. I cannot find
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the bug, however. Hints are welcome.
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Any volunteer to improve the french translation?
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Michael
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--
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EOI
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============================================================================
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Michael Bischoff e-mail: mbi@mo.math.nat.tu-bs.de
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Abt. Mathematische Optimierung or m.bischoff@tu-bs.de
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Inst. Angewandte Mathematik or on.bischoff@zib-berlin.de
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Pockelsstrasse 14 Tel. +49-531-391-7555, Fax: +49-531-391-4577
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38106 Braunschweig Germany
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
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From: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
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Subject: Re: Time Zone
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Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 23:24:21 GMT
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Followup to: <CwsJpu.6MI@dcs.ed.ac.uk>
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By author: nxm@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nikos Massios)
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In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.admin
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>
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> I think EET stands for Eastern European Time and it is GMT+02. Well
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> if my previous statement is right then Slackware 1.2.0 is wrong
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> because it thinks that EET is GMT+03. Anybody knows what EET is?
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>
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EET is GMT+2 in the winter and GMT+3 in the summer.
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/hpa
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--
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INTERNET: hpa@nwu.edu --- Allah'u'abha ---
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IBM MAIL: I0050052 at IBMMAIL HAM RADIO: N9ITP or SM4TKN
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FIDONET: 1:115/511 or 1:115/512 STORMNET: 181:294/1 or 181:294/101
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"This conversation made more sense this time around." -- Bill & Ted
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From: mikaak@evitech.evitech.fi (Mika Kuoppala)
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Subject: Re: problems compiling kernel 1.1.45+ for scsi
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Date: 29 Sep 1994 16:00:36 +0200
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Srini Seetharam (srini@igt.com) wrote:
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: I am running Slackware 1.2 with kernel 1.1.13.
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: I presently have only ide drives and they work just fine.
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: I ahev some (little) experience compiling kernels. I compiled
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: 1.1.13, 1.1.35 many times with varying options.
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: I need to compile a kernel higher than 1.1.45 to support my new
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: scsi NCR 53c810 chip.
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: I downloaded 1.1.45 sources and the patches from 46 to 50.
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: this one is 1.1.49
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: -------------------------cut here----------------------------
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[stuff deleted]
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: fake.c:996: unterminated character constant
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: sh: perl: command not found
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-----------------------
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You haven't installed perl, or it cannot be found !
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: cpp: output pipe has been closed
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: make[2]: *** [53c8xx_d.h] Error 127
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: make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi'
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: make[1]: *** [driversubdirs] Error 1
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: make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/drivers'
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: make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 1
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: runabout:/usr/src/linux#
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I hope that this helps a bit.
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--
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Mika Kuoppala
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Evitech mikaak@evitech.fi
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Espoo-Vantaa Institute Of Technology
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Subject: i486 Word length, anyone?
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From: riku.saikkonen@compart.fi (Riku Saikkonen)
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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 17:18:00 +0200
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>an apparently-BSD-ish variable called NBPW. I found its counterpart
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>NBBY (Number of Bits per BYte) in the include/bsd/bsd.h file, so I'm
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>assuming that NBPW is Number of Bytes Per Word. Of course, I could be
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...
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>I tried setting it to 32 (since the 486 is a 32-bit processor <shrug>),
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Hmm... This seems to be a question of definition. _I_ have always
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thought that a word is defined as two bytes, or 16 bits, independent of
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machine. But I don't know...
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Anyway, int in Linux is 32-bit, short is 16-bit, and char is 8-bit, if
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that helps any...
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-=- Rjs -=- riku.saikkonen@compart.fi - IRC: Rjs
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"For still there are so many things / that I have never seen: /
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in every wood in every spring / there is a different green." - Tolkien
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From: heiko@lotte.sax.de (Heiko Schlittermann)
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Subject: unique timestamp in kernel code?
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 21:40:22 GMT
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Is there any possibility to create an unique timestamp (e.g. when the
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disk last time was changed) when running kernel code?
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Ad hoc I use jiffies, but jiffies are unsigned long, I read in
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limits.h: ULONG_MAX -> UINT_MAX = 2^32. That is expressed in days
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about 497 days. (Based on 100HZ (100 jiffies / second).) May be, it
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doesn't matter anything, but it would not be very clean....
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-- heiko
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From: zack@netcom.com (Zack T. Smith)
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Subject: PPC (PowerMac) port status?
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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 04:27:36 GMT
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Hi,
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I'm looking for PPC status. Is it getting anywhere? Is the Apple
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PowerMac going to be supported or will there be the same trouble
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getting hardware info as with the 68k Mac?
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TIA
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Zack Smith
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From: zerucha@shell.portal.com (Thomas E Zerucha)
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Subject: Re: 1+ Gig SCSI Drives //
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Date: 29 Sep 1994 01:19:08 GMT
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To clarify, the problems I cited occur in biosparam, which only affects fdisk.
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If you use the whole drive, you won't call biosparam, so you won't run into
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the problem.
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Secondly, the problem is more a conflict with coexisting DOS partitions.
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DOS processes the track/cyl/sector information as I noted, normally
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different below/above 1Gb. If the linux biosparam doesn't follow the
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same rule, either linux or dos or both will get very confused.
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From: zerucha@shell.portal.com (Thomas E Zerucha)
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Subject: Telnet Troubles...
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Date: 29 Sep 1994 01:22:40 GMT
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Telnet will quit sending characters after about 1 minute when I am using
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ppp. I put some print debugs in the telnet code and found that it is reading
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the keyboard, and fills the output-to-net queue, but the queue never gets
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sent out after a given point.
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Has anyone else experienced this, and is there a fix?
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---
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zerucha@shell.portal.com
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From: draco@xvnews.unconfigured.domain (DRACO)
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Subject: Porting from SunOS to Linux (Dynamic Linking)
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Date: 29 Sep 1994 19:33:05 GMT
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Reply-To: draco@xvnews.unconfigured.domain
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Dear friends,
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I am trying to port a system from SunOS to Linux. The porting
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has been a breeze except for the fact we dont have libdl available.
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The system depends on dlopen and dlsym, since C++ code is generated
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at run-time and then linked to the application.
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Does anybody is working in the port of libdl???
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Does anybody had already faced the same problem? If so, how it had been treated?
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Does anybody has an idea on how to solve the problem???
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Thanks for your attention.
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Marcelo Sant'Anna
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PUC-Rio
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Informatics Department -- Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
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e-mail: draco@inf.puc-rio.br
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From: pdalinis@amiserv.xnet.com (Pete Dalinis)
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Subject: ISDN Support for Linux
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Date: 29 Sep 1994 02:38:49 GMT
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I have heard that people are working on ISDN drivers for Linux. I am
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just wondering when (how much longer), what interface brand, etc...
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And of course - are they free, and are they FTP'able or do they come with
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a particular interface?
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Thanks!
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Pete
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From: mesrik@tukki.jyu.fi (Riku Meskanen)
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Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542/SCSI under Linux
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Date: 28 Sep 1994 09:33:34 GMT
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James E. McNalley (mcnalley@metnet.geog.pdx.edu) wrote:
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[ ... stuff deleted ... ]
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: the A oro C/CF, but I'm happy with the B. The A is no longer supported,
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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By Adaptec, but not by Linux!
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: and the only car I've heard that had trouble was older C's when the SCSI
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: cables weren't properly shielded. I've had *no* trouble with my
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: 1542B and NEC 3Xi, plus a pair of IDE disks. At one time I had
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: a pair of 200MB SCSI disks in with my dual IDE disks, but I didn't have
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: them in long and am selling them so I can buy one bigger disk and pay
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: off my 3Xi ;-) I didn't have any trouble with the 2 SCSI and 2 IDE disks.
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: (some people ask about this...)
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I've been using A model card from Nov -92 and used almost *every* single
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release of the kernel that Linus has produced and not counting some
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silly typo on one kernel *every* version have worked for me.
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Now I'm running 1.1.49 and have no plans to upgrade before Linus
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comes back from down-under and before Eric has settled down and
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checked these rumours. I have no time to mess things
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up, if there is really a bug in 1.1.5x, but i can't just believe
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that adaptec cards have suddenly stopped working properly under
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Linux. The problems must be on hw side or in kernel driver code.
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All adaptec cards except 1542C-preF that had problems with shielding
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are far more superior than the most of the other cards i have seen,
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both in quality and reliability (allthoug BusTek has better price
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/performance factor), that's my opinion (not a Flame!)
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The problems in most cases are between the keyboard and the chair.
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: --
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: James McNalley | "I have never let my schooling interfere with my
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: Linux/Unix Hacker | education" -Mark Twain
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: Portland, OR | "Live free or die" -New Hampshire motto
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: mcnalley@metnet.geog.pdx.edu -or- mcnalley@agora.rdrop.com
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--
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:-) riku
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--
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#include <std.bullshit> /* missing cool .signature -- got a spare? */
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From: Mitchum.DSouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk (Mitchum DSouza)
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Subject: Re: Trouble using "execl"
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Date: 28 Sep 1994 10:06:24 GMT
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In article <1994Sep26.091605.4417@reks.uia.ac.be>, rgeens@uia.ac.be
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(Ronald.Geens) writes:
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|> >In article <35s10k$bge@hopper.acm.org>, ian_vogt@ACM.ORG writes:
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|> >|>
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|> >|>
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|> >|> I am trying to get a task to transform into another program
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|> >|> using the "execl" function call. The task appears to die
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|> >|> with the following displayed on the screen:
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|> >|>
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|> >|> libc.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl26) => /lib/libc.so.4.5.26
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|> >|>
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|> >|> Can anyone tell me what this means, what I'm doing wrong, and/or
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|> >|> how to fix it?
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|> >|>
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|> >|> A trace line just before the "execl" prints but I don't get tracing
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|> >|> from after the "execl" or from the beginning of the target program.
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|> >
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|> >Use the correct arguments to execl() and it will work as
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|> doccumented/expected.
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|> >
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|> No way it won't.
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|> What args are wrong here ? This program works perfectly allright on SunOS 4.3
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|> and
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|> Solaris, but not on Slackware ...
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This doesn't mean SunOS is correct!!
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|> #include <stdio.h>
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|> #include <unistd.h>
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|>
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|> main()
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|> {
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|> char *args[1];
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|> args[0]=NULL;
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|> printf("pid = %d, pgrp = %d\n",getpid(),getpgrp());
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|> if (execl("a.out",NULL)<0) perror("What the fuck\n");
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|> /* or if (execve("a.out",args,args)<0) perror("What the fuck\n"); */
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|> printf("What is this\n");
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|> return 0;
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|> }
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Please read the execl() manpage.
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From: Mitchum.DSouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk (Mitchum DSouza)
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Subject: Re: More ELF.
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Date: 28 Sep 1994 10:45:19 GMT
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In article <3673br$ei2@Venus.mcs.com>, macgyver@MCS.COM (MacGyver) writes:
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|> Hi,
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|>
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|> I've been watching these discussions about ELF vs a.out with quite a
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|> bit of interest. It looks, at least to me, like things will be moving
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|> toward ELF. Who actually decides if this happens and if so when it
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No one should have to "decide" for the masses. It is totally up to you.
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For example you can currently run a QMAGIC and ZMAGIC binary on your system
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and as far as you're concerned you shouldn't have to worry about the binary
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type. ELF is just another binary type. Clearly there will be a bias (i.e.
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future libc's and most shared libraries etc.. will be ELF) so you should be
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oblivious of the fact that ELF is being thrust upon you.
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|> happens? What does Linus have to say about it? If this does take
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|> place, does this mean that EVERYTHING must be recompiled for ELF? (I
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|> understand that both formats will be supported, but, if we're moving
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|> to ELF then I, personally, would want to use the 'preferred' medium)
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Nothing has to be recompiled unless you want to. Clearly there is a
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performance decrement if you have both an ELF and DLL libc in core ,so yes
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it would be a wise idea to recompile things - but this can be done at your
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own pace. I assume the next distribution from vendors like Slackdare and
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SLS will probably be ELF based.
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|> Just how big is this project going to be if its implemented? It'd be
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|> nice if the hard work that all the developers have done didn't have to
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|> be recompiled or rewritten.
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From: Kevin Martinez <lps@rahul.net>
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Subject: Re: Memory in 1.1.50: What is data?
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 03:11:13 GMT
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heiser@spc280.ed.ray.com (Bill Heiser) writes:
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>: Peter Suetterlin (pit@myhost.subdomain.domain) wrote:
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>:: Just half an hour ago, I compiled the latest 1.1.50 kernel version.
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>:: During bootup, I got the following message:
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>:: Memory: 12956k/16384k available (624k kernel code, 384k reserved, 2420k data)
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>Someone else wrote:
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>: Memory: 25900k/32768k available (712k kernel code, 384k reserved, 5772k data)
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>: Linux version 1.1.50 (root@ka4ybr) (gcc version 2.5.8) #2 Sat Sep 17 13:44:27 EDT 1994
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>This is what mine looks like:
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>Memory: 29532k/32768k available (524k kernel code, 384k reserved, 2328k data)
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>Linux version 1.1.51 (root@bhhome) (gcc version 2.5.8) #1 Thu Sep 22 20:17:49 ED
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and mine:
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Memory: 21240k/24576k available (612k kernel code, 384k reserved, 2340k data)
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Linux version 1.1.51 (root@mariko) (gcc version 2.5.8) #1 Sun Sep 25 00:09:22 PDT 1994
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--
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========================================================================
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Kevin Martinez lps@rahul.net Member of the John De Armond Fan Club
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I owe all my success to Roly Poly Fish Heads! Call: 1 510 676 1111
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From: jaggy@purplet.demon.co.uk (Mike Jagdis)
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Subject: Re: Don't use Linux?!
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Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 10:31:00 +0000
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* In message <jeffpkCw5HpL.CLz@netcom.com>, Jeff Kesselman said:
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JK> Its a terrific product, and I intend to install it on my new
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JK> Linux system after IBCS becomes stable.
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It is. Do it now. The bugs that may be left are obscure and do not appear to
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pop out of the woodwork spontaneously :-).
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Mike
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From: jaggy@purplet.demon.co.uk (Mike Jagdis)
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Subject: Shared Libs: working toward a permanent solution?
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Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 10:15:00 +0000
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* In message <CONNOLLY.94Sep14103940@ulua.hal.com>, Dan Connolly said:
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DC> Hmmm... I should do some reading on ELF and the iBCS
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DC> project. Is there any hope that solaris binaries will run on
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DC> LINUX?
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I don't see why it shouldn't be possible. The iBCS emulator can already do
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SVR3 (and a whole slew of variations), SVR4 and has alpha bits for Xenix 386
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and the 386 BSDs. If someone buys me Solaris I'll see what needs doing (if
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anything :-) ).
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Mike
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From: kress@kentrox.com (Bill Kress)
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Subject: X11--is 2MB supported on ET4000 yet
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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 22:44:01 GMT
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The subject says it all. I want to have my new ET4000/W32i
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card exploited to its fullest extent. At least I'd like to
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be able to use some of the extra memory for scrolling. Has
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this stuff been fixed yet?
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Thanks.
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Bill K.
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From: mike@strauss.udel.edu (Michael James Porter)
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Subject: Re: [STATUS] Linus Floppy Driver Development
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Date: 28 Sep 1994 19:24:57 -0400
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In article <36bm24$5tn@mickey.iaccess.za>,
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Steve Davies <steve@iaccess.za> wrote:
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=>In article <366k58$stg@imag.imag.fr>, Alain Knaff <Alain.Knaff@imag.fr> wrote:
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=>> Yes, but what we need to know is not when the floppy has been
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=>>changed, but rather when it is inserted. The DISK CHANGE LINE is set
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=>>when the floppy is _removed_ not when it is inserted. It is cleared
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=>>when a disk is in the drive _and_ a seek is done. Thus, in order to
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=>>detect a disk _insertion_ the drive has to be seeked endlessly. If the
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=>>period of the poll is too small, the noise gets annoying, if it is too
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=>>long the feature gets useless.
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Central Point's CPBACKUP does something that keeps the drive's light
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lit, but the drive doesn't seem to make any noise. As soon as a
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disk is inserted, the program picks up. I guess CPBACKUP is polling
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something...
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I don't really know much about this in general - I just thought I'd
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mention what I have seen.
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Mike
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From: hskim@ripley.ece.uiuc.edu (Han Kim)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: IF YOU HAVE A MAGNETO-OPTICAL DRIVE...
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Date: 28 Sep 1994 23:31:21 GMT
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James Jurach (phaedrus@arlut.utexas.edu) wrote:
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> Help.
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> If you have a SCSI magneto-optical drive or have seen one that "works"
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> under Linux-1.1+ please let me know. I need to purchase one of the
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> 1.3 Gb variety, but at this point, I am open to suggestion.
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> These are the only ones I am aware of at this point:
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> =========================
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> Fujitsu M2511A (128 Mb)
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> Ricoh 5030E-II (???)
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> I know that without serious tweaking, this drive does _not_ "work":
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> =========================
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> HP C1716T (1.3 Gb)
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> As this information is not privided in the SCSI-Howto, if there is
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> much of a response, I will share it with anyone else who is interested.
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> However, from my previous request (about a month ago) I received only
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> 1 response. :-(
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> I'd appreciate model #, disk capacity, dimensions, and approximate cost.
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> However, I need mainly the model # and capacity. Thanks in advance.
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We have a Maximum Duette MO drive which is really a Matsushita.
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We heard that the company (Maximum) went belly up or absorved by another.
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Can't remember exact capacity but about 1 Gb (500 Mb per side), and
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works with v1.19 and DTC 1542 clone. As you expect, no special driver
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required. Only did some tests, though. No guarantee from me.
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> With fingers crossed and eyes to the skies,
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> James Jurach
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> phaedrus@arlut.utexas.edu
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Han..
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--
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Han Seok Kim | hskim@uiwpls.ece.uiuc.edu
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Wave Propagation Lab. | (217) 333 - 4406
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