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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 94 04:13:12 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #248
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Linux-Development Digest #248, Volume #2 Sat, 1 Oct 94 04:13:12 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: people using SCSI-IN2000 driver, please read this (John Shifflett)
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boot disk for adaptec 7870 needed (Pong S Choa)
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Re: SCSI PCI Adaptec (pp000547@interramp.com)
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Re: Linux on CD (Jeff Kesselman)
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Report on gcc with P5 optimizations (Erann Gat)
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emufs (DOSEmu filesystem) - is it possible? (an128523@anon.penet.fi)
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Re: [?] DIP with auto-redial? (Michael Will)
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Re: Login USERID length bug? (Anat Faigon)
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Obsolete route request made!? (Carlos Antunes)
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Re: LOOK FIRST-- FORGED SPAM (Jeff Kesselman)
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a bug in gcc 2.6.0/Linux (BARTHOLDI Laurent)
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Re: OpenGL Extensions to X server? (Vince Taluskie)
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Re: Shared Libs: working toward a permanent solution? (Robert Andrew Ryan)
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Re: Special Sale On QNX! (Luke Howard)
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Re: Porting from SunOS to Linux (Dynamic Linking) (Mitchum DSouza)
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Re: Multiprocessing Pentium Systems (Aris Stathakis)
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From: jshiffle@netcom.com (John Shifflett)
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Subject: Re: people using SCSI-IN2000 driver, please read this
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 23:49:29 GMT
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doolitt@recycle.cebaf.gov (Larry Doolittle) writes:
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>Stefan Markgraf (stefan@pippi.tu-bs.de) wrote:
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>: Sometimes while swapping (to a swap-partition) the driver crashes.
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>: No read/writes are possible and therefore every process begins to hang
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>: when it needs access to the disk. The HD light burns constantly.
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>I have seen this, always with the "new" fast driver on tsx-11. If
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I also see this with the new fast driver & 1.51. BUT, I really
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don't think it's related to *swapping*, per se. My experience
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suggests that this hang occurs (somewhat randomly) whenever you
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write _large_ amounts of data to disk. My system uses a swap file,
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so it seems unlikely that it's a swap file versus partition issue.
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I can recreate the hang by something as simple as untarring the
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linux source tree, or doing 'dd if=zImage of=/boot/zImage'. Not
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always, but often enough that I keep a boot floppy with 1.0.9 and
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the old driver handy (never have been convinced that the newer
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kernels don't play a part in the problem). Also, there was a
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noticable increase in failures when I went from 8 megs to 16.
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This is high quality RAM, by the way, and hasn't shown ANY sign
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of giving trouble anywhere else. So, my theory is that with the
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filesystem buffers a lot bigger than they used to be, large
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amounts of stuff will be written to buffers before getting flushed
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every 5 seconds or whatever by update. During flush, then,
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something in the driver gets overloaded and ends up hanging.
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>: (My memory "upgrade" 8->16 MB has shown, that the driver crashing occurs
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>: more seldom --- this is a result of fewer swapping requests, I suppose).
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Don't know what to say...
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John S. jshiffle@netcom.com
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From: pchoa@world.std.com (Pong S Choa)
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Subject: boot disk for adaptec 7870 needed
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 04:52:59 GMT
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I have a 486 pc with a Adaptec 7870 SCSI controler (for PCI bus) and a
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Viper video card. I tried to installed Linux on it with the SCSI boot
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disk. It does not locate any SCSI devices. Do anyone know where I
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can find a boot disk that work with a adaptec 7870 scsi controler.
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Pong
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From: pp000547@interramp.com
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Subject: Re: SCSI PCI Adaptec
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Date: 28 Sep 1994 03:16:33 GMT
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Reply-To: pp000547@interramp.com
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In article <1994Sep27.194907.3789@news.uit.no> frodef@stud.cs.uit.no (Frode Vatvedt Fjeld) writes:
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Does anyone know if any of the adaptec SCSI-drivers will work with
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"Adaptec AIC-7870 Fast and Wide SCSI interface connected to the
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processor via the PCI bus" ?
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If not, is this chip very different from the "ordinary" adaptec
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SCSI controllers? Would anyone know where I can get the needed
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information to write a driver?
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Thanks,
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--
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FWIW, I happened to be reading a Microsoft document called "The
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Chicago Beta Reviewer's Guide" the other day and in it I came across
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something that may shed some light on the Adaptec picture.
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In the Beta Reviewer's Guide, MS makes much of the idea of
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splitting device support into hardware-dependent and hardware-independent
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components, the former being the responsibility of MS and the latter being
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the responsibility of the hardware mfg.
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I wonder: if this strategy gains widespread acceptance among
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hardware mfgs, isn't Linux going to have to find a way to come to
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grips with it?
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Bill
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--
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Bill Hogan <pp000547@interramp.com>
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"Show me a wisdom that is greater than kindness." [J-J.Rousseau]
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From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman)
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Subject: Re: Linux on CD
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 00:21:00 GMT
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In article <butler.780613856@bert.cs.byu.edu>,
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Kevin J. Butler <butler@bert.cs.byu.edu> wrote:
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>pc@dale.dircon.co.uk (Pete Chown) writes:
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>
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>>If you have an IBM mainframe to spare, and run MVS on it, you can set
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>>it up to move files to slower discs or to tape if they haven't been
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>>used for a while. But they remain in the catalogue and are moved back
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>>invisibly when you next use them.
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>
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>>This, IMO, is the sort of thing that is required here.
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>Exactly.
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>
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>A multi-tiered (secondary) storage sol'n:
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>disk
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>compressed disk
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>cd (if avail)
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>tape (if avail)
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>
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>complications arise w/ cd/tape, because they are removable--you end up
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>interrupting to tell the operator "Insert [media] volume X..."
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>But hey--its cheaper than robot mounted tapes, etc. ;-)
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>
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>Anyone working on anything like this???
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>
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>kb
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>--
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>Kevin Butler butler@bert.cs.byu.edu 8-)
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>This is a sample .sig file!
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Lets go one step further... I'ld like such a system to keep a catalog of
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my CDs, so if I want t access something that is out on CD, and not
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currently mounted, itll ask me to mount the proper CD by name.
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Now THATS convenient!
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Jeff Kesselman
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From: gat@robotics.jpl.nasa.gov (Erann Gat)
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Subject: Report on gcc with P5 optimizations
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 10:17:36 -0800
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FWIW, FYI, ETC:
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Several people asked me to report my experiences using gcc-2.5.8 with
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pentium optimizations. I got the version from sunsite, which appears
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to be slightly different from the version from intel. (For one thing,
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the intel version claims to be revision 2.4.0.) It compiled without a
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hitch, and the kernel recompiled OK using -O2 but not -O4. This is
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consistent with earlier reports. Bootup dies during delay loop
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calibration.
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I tried recompiling just this part of the kernel (main.c) using -O2, but
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it died again a little later during the boot sequence. I have not had
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time to do a detailed investigation as to the cause of the problem, but
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for now I think it is prudent to consider -O4 to be unsafe.
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Unlike earlier reports, I perceive no performance change using the new
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compiler. However, much of what I am doing is memory-intensive, and so
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I would not expect to see much speedup.
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E.
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--
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Erann Gat
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gat@robotics.jpl.nasa.gov
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From: an128523@anon.penet.fi
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Reply-To: an128523@anon.penet.fi
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 17:18:04 UTC
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Subject: emufs (DOSEmu filesystem) - is it possible?
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Hi,
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First of all, excuse me for using the anon service, something seems to
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be happening to my news host so I can't post.
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There have been so many posts about mounting filesystems that are
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supported by DOS but not by Linux (ie: Novell, Stacker, Doublespace,
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etc), that it got me to thinking.
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Wouldn't it be possible to use userfs and hack DOSEMU so that it would
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export its filesystems? What I'm thinking about is to have a user-defined
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filesystem (the code would basically be a trimmed-down DOSEMU with hacks
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to talk to userfs) that exports all drives available to a DOSEMU
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session. Of course, the "emufs" driver would first do a standard DOS
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boot (ie, loading CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT) thus loading any drivers,
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and then export them to Linux. The filesystem might look something like:
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/dos
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A C D E LPT1
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Of course, the LPT1 file is an idea for the future, so that emufs could
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also make available, for example, Novell printers.
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Now, is this possible? Am I crazy? I don't know enough about the
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internals of DOSEMU of userfs to evaluate this.
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Just an idea,
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Mario Camou | MS-DOS is a bug
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EDS Mexico Client-Server Technical Services | MS-Windows is a bug with a GUI
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mario.camou@eng.eds.com | Linux: the best debugger
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=========================================================================
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To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi.
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Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized,
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and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned.
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Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin@anon.penet.fi.
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From: zxmgv07@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Will)
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Subject: Re: [?] DIP with auto-redial?
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Date: 27 Sep 94 13:18:26 GMT
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I have moved from dip to
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sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/system/network/serial/dslip203.tgz
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which supports indial and outdial, lets specific users start/stop the connection
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and automaticly redials when the line dropped or was busy.
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Apart from the /dev/cua* itt even works with /dev/ttyS* which I need for
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mgetty to work.
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Cheers, Michael Will
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From: anat@netcom.com (Anat Faigon)
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Subject: Re: Login USERID length bug?
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 06:36:35 GMT
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Kenneth Tan (kenneth@bbs.sas.ntu.ac.sg) wrote:
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: What bugs me more is that the _password_ is also limited to only 8 characters!
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: (If you don't believe it, give it a try: Enter a very_long_password and try
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: logging in. You can get in by just typing the first 8 characters of the
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: password!)
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:
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Not a bug but an historic limitation. The Password encryption
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algorithm of any traditional UNIX (Linux is not a special case)
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is based on a 56-bit DES (Data Encryption Standard) key.
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: Kenneth "Automan" Tan
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-- Anat
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--
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Anat Faigon anat@netcom.com
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From: cmsa@softsousa.pt (Carlos Antunes)
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Subject: Obsolete route request made!?
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Reply-To: Carlos.Antunes@softsousa.pt
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 00:09:05 GMT
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Hello, fellow linuxers!
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After installing kernel 1.1.45, when starting, I receive a warning saying
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'obsolete route request made'. Well, I removed the command
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'route add 127.0.0.1' form rc.inet1 and the warning disapears, but cannot
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telnet localhost, because there is no route info. What's up?
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Thanx!
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Regards,
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Carlos Antunes.
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--
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Carlos Antunes @ SoftSousa Developing for 32bit MS Windows(tm)
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Voice: 351-1-3975303 Windows NT(tm) and "Chicago"
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Fax : 351-1-3975889 Console, GUI or Kernel Mode Drivers
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.minix
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From: jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman)
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Subject: Re: LOOK FIRST-- FORGED SPAM
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 07:15:26 GMT
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In article <369f2n$12rt@tequesta.gate.net>,
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Michael S. Scheidell <scheidel@gate.net> wrote:
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>PLEASE READ THIS. I DID NOT MAKE THAT POST!
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>
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>This posting did not come from our office, but we are tracing it.
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>If you look carefully at headers you will find sites that don't exist,
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>and see that it does not trace back to scheidel@gate.net.
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>
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Hmm. Unfortunately most of us don't know all the sites that do our don't
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exist. Due to the nature of the net, its also fairly common to find
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things coming from places other then their originators home, so don't
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think TOO harshly off us who bought it.
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I'm glad you quickly responded though, that helps avoid confusion.
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>We have a good idea of who it is and some admins are helping us trace it
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>by comparing the posting on their machine to other postings.
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>
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>If you have the time and ability to help us trace this, we can give you
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>info on who is doing it and maybe try to pressure HIS site to drop him.
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>
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I'm not in a position to help you, but I support your efforts. You
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might point out to the site administrator that the poster violated both
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your and QNX's trademarks, as well as enganing in what amounetd to
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libel. If he were to be prosecuted, his site could find themselves in
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the middle of some very messy leaglities (rmemebr what happend to Steve
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Jackson...)
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>Again, I did not do this post, and we have taken great pains to avoid
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>offending anyone, and to date this is my first flame, even if undeserved.
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>
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>I thank those who looked at headers and saw it was a forgery, and look
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>forward to a solution to this.
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>
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Let us know what happens.
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>NOW TIME TO PAUSE AND PONDER:
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>Seems like every time I get too full of myself, someone helps to humble
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>me and remind me, that I too am just a sinner saved by the grace of God.
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>
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Oh, okay. Thats why you're happy in Florida, and I wasn't. To each
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their own.
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>NOW BACK TO BUSINESS:
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>ps, reply with subject line "hacker" to avoid auto reply.
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>
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>--
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>Michael S. Scheidell Florida Datamation, Inc.
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>scheidel@gate.net (407) 241-2966
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>Distributers of QNX Real Time OS Products (finger for more info)
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From: lbartho@scsun.unige.ch (BARTHOLDI Laurent)
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Subject: a bug in gcc 2.6.0/Linux
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 17:28:41 GMT
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Hi folks,
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I got a weird problem with gcc 2.6.0:
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main( int c ) { return c % 15; }
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does not compile (gcc fills up all available memory and exits with a
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'out of virtual memory' message). The simlilar program compiles fine:
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const in xv = 15; main( int c ) { return c % xv; }
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I suppose I should post this to some gcc group; I suppose it worked with
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previous releases though I can't say.
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--
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==========
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Larry `Hacker' Bartholdi, University of Geneva, Switzerland
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E-Mail: lbartho@scsun.unige.ch or lbartho@cui.unige.ch
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S-Mail: Larry Bartholdi / Barillette 11 / 1260 NYON / Switzerland
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From: taluskie@utpapa.ph.utexas.edu (Vince Taluskie)
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Subject: Re: OpenGL Extensions to X server?
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Date: 30 Sep 1994 10:22:09 GMT
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In article <CwuwxA.2EK@news.tudelft.nl>,
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Robert Stockmann <stock@dutsh7.tudelft.nl> wrote:
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>Yes it would certainly be nice! Then you could use your Linux -box
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>as GL/X11 terminal for those SGI and IBM machines. Ive tried to
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>get an SGI GL appliction to run with vogle but this package
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>(although very nice) lacks about 90% of the true GL lib functions.
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Have you tried Ygl yet ? I'm hardly expert about such things but I
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remember some discussion on comp.unix.aix a while back about how it
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was fast than IBM GL offering...
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Vince
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--
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Vince Taluskie
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UT Physics Computer Group taluskie@utpapa.ph.utexas.edu
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UNIX Systems Administration http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~taluskie/home.html
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"It's easier to be a result of the past than a cause of the future"
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From: Robert Andrew Ryan <rr2b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
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Subject: Re: Shared Libs: working toward a permanent solution?
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:37:44 -0400
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.development: 28-Sep-94 Re: Shared
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Libs: working to.. Richard Krehbiel@netcom1 (1432)
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> So, share it. (I do understand that's what shared libraries are for.)
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> The library image is loaded and relocated so that it exists at a
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> single virtual address, and it's the same virtual address for all
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> programs that link with it (as is currently the case). The difference
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> is that the load address was chosen at load time, not at link time.
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The biggest drawback to this solution is that libraries relocated at
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runtime would differ from the version of the libraries on disk, thus
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swap space would have to be allocated to swap them out. (with ELF and
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pic or the current shared libraries nearly all the pages can be paged
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from the library files on the filesystem.)
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-Rob
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From: lukeh@zola.apana.org.au (Luke Howard)
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Subject: Re: Special Sale On QNX!
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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 94 09:57:41 +1000
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In <jeffpkCwrMHE.D64@netcom.com> jeffpk@netcom.com (Jeff Kesselman) writes:
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>In article <CwpIGD.GyH@pe1chl.ampr.org>, Rob Janssen <pe1chl@rabo.nl> wrote:
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>>In <CwoFHF.Hxs@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> scheidel@gate.net () writes:
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>>
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>>>Why settle for slow and obselete Unix such as UnixWare, Sun Solaris,
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>>>SCO, Linux or BSD when you can have POWER & RELIABILITY with QNX 4.21!
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>>>Stop playing games with these inferior o/s's and switch to QNX today.
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>>
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>>Hey come on, a bit more humble announcements would be nice!
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>>Especially from someone who posts the same article twice in the same
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>>group. Done under QNX, I suppose?
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Must be QNX's fail-safe redundancy? :^)
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L.
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From: Mitchum.DSouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk (Mitchum DSouza)
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Subject: Re: Porting from SunOS to Linux (Dynamic Linking)
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Date: 30 Sep 1994 10:28:46 GMT
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In article <36f4ph$o8n@io.rdc.puc-rio.br>, draco@xvnews.unconfigured.domain
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(DRACO) writes:
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|>
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|> Dear friends,
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|>
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|> I am trying to port a system from SunOS to Linux. The porting
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|> has been a breeze except for the fact we dont have libdl available.
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|> The system depends on dlopen and dlsym, since C++ code is generated
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|> at run-time and then linked to the application.
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|> Does anybody is working in the port of libdl???
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|> Does anybody had already faced the same problem? If so, how it had been
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|> treated?
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|> Does anybody has an idea on how to solve the problem???
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|>
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Use the GNU dld library instead
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tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/sources/libs/dld-3.2.4.src.tar.gz
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Mitch
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From: aris@mpd.co.za (Aris Stathakis)
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Subject: Re: Multiprocessing Pentium Systems
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 09:01:28 GMT
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In <huw.157.2E832221@isgtec.com> huw@isgtec.com (Huw Leonard) writes:
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>In article <CwJyxM.KxC@gcs.com> mark@gcs.com (Mark Bolzern) writes:
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>>>I've just seen some new dual processor pentium systems in Computer
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>>>Shopper. They look swell for the money, but there isn't a single OS
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>>>that can take advantage of them. Anybody have any thoughts about how
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>>>hard it might be to make Linux one of the first OS's to take advantage
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>>>of these systems?
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>>Not quite true... SCO MPX will work with many of them. But it would still
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>>be good to have Linux available......
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>WinNT works well on many multi-processor systems. IBM seems to be on the verge
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>of releasing an SMP OS/2, as well. The problem, as I understand it, is that
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>there is no firm multi-processor standard yet. The problem with working up an
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>SMP or MPX version of Linux would be having to support all of the wierd
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>variations of the architecture. Perhaps when manufacturers have a consistent
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>standard, multi-processor Linux would be more feasable.
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>Is this opinion incorrect? Comments?
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There is the APIC stanard from Intel (now at version 1.1) which most of
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these dual-processor boards are supporting (probably because they use
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the Intel chip-set :-)
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Aris
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--
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Aris Stathakis Tel: +27 11 887 1040 Snail Mail:
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SCO ACE / Novell CNE Tel: +27 11 887 5150 P.O. Box 781228
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M&PD (Pty) Ltd. Fax: +27 11 887-5158 Sandton, 2146
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E-Mail: aris@mpd.co.za Cell:+27 83 601 0206 R.S.A.
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