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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 94 17:13:15 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #252
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Linux-Development Digest #252, Volume #2 Sat, 1 Oct 94 17:13:15 EDT
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Contents:
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What is "makedepend," and where do I get it? (Joel M. Hoffman)
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Re: Alpha Linux (Larry McVoy)
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Re: Compiling progs using port I/O (Gary Paul Gortmaker)
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New kernel (Troy Piper)
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Re: Korn Shell '93 Now Available from AT&T (Andrew J. Piziali)
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Dell Dimension XPS P60 Problems (Neil Corlett)
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SVGA 800X640 X11 Server for MONO Monitor (CK Wong)
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Re: ISDN Support for Linux (Kwun Han)
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Re: Memory in 1.1.50: What is data? (H. Peter Anvin)
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Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS (Lover Man)
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Re: Korn Shell '93 Now Available from AT&T (James E. McNalley)
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Re: elf benchmarks (getting closer) (Peter Mutsaers)
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Re: Linux on multiple processors? (Kevin K. Lewis)
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Re: Adaptec 1542/SCSI under Linux (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
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Re: Memory in 1.1.50: What is data? (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
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Re: Mixer for PAS Cards? (Ian Justman)
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From: joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman)
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Subject: What is "makedepend," and where do I get it?
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 14:53:10 GMT
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I thought I'd give Wine a try this weekend, but I can't even get past
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./Configure, because that script needs "makedepend," which I don't
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have. Where might I find it.
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Thanks.
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-Joel
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(joel@wam.umd.edu)
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--
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=============================================================================
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|_|~~ Germany, Europe. 1943. "The diameter of the bomb was 30 centimeters,
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__|~| 16 Million DEAD. and the diameter of its destruction, about 7
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meters, and in it four killed and 11 wounded.
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cnc Bosnia, Europe. 1993. And around these, in a larger circle of pain
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cnc HOW MANY MORE? and time, are scattered two hospitals and one
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cemetery. But the young woman who was buried in
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the place from where she came, at a distance of more than
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than 100 kilometers, enlarges the circle considerably. And the
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lonely man who is mourning her death in a distant country incorporates
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into the circle the whole world. And I won't speak of the cry of the orphans
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that reaches God's chair and from there makes the circle endless and godless."
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=============================================================================
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Tell Clinton to stop the genocide: president@whitehouse.gov
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From: lm@fubar (Larry McVoy)
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Subject: Re: Alpha Linux
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Date: 28 Sep 1994 03:51:17 GMT
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Reply-To: lm@slovax.engr.sgi.com
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: > None of these is the best solution. The best solution is to say exactly
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: > what you mean. E.g. If you want to store numbers between -500 and +1000
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: > you should declare this and let the compiler work out how many bits to
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: > use. e.g. int{-500,1000} foo; int{0,65535} bar;
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#define int8 char
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#define int16 short
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#define int32 int
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#define int64 long
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These should have been in sys/types.h a long time ago along with the
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unsigned versions. I've ported the TCP stack several times to weird
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hardware where this sort of thing was desperately needed.
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Before everyone says that "My weird ass machine doesn't have 16 bit
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integers" note that you use these types when THESE ARE EXACTLY WHAT
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YOU NEED. Like in protocol structures, where the size is determined
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by the bits on the wire, not "My weird ass machine". Then if your
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machine doesn't work, at least you get the errors right up front and
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can go diddle your way around it.
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--
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---
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Larry McVoy (415) 390-1804 lm@sgi.com
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From: gpg109@huxley.anu.edu.au (Gary Paul Gortmaker)
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Subject: Re: Compiling progs using port I/O
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Date: 2 Oct 1994 01:32:35 +1000
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bon@lte.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Uwe Bonnes) writes:
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>Rob Janssen (rob@pe1chl.ampr.org) wrote:
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>> In <36bmo0$fmg@clarknet.clark.net> nardone@clark.net (Joe Nardone) writes:
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>> >all my inb/outb calls are represented as unresolved references
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>> >to ___outb (or ___outcb) and ___inb...
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>> You have to compile with optimization (-O2)
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>Is there some explanation for that behaviour?
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From an old GCC digest:
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Any program using <asm/io.h> won't link successfully if it was compiled
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without the -O option, because the
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"extern inline xxx (params) { yyy ; } ;"
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statement will have been interpreted just as
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"extern xxx (params) ;
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============================================================
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Paul.
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From: piper936@cs.uidaho.edu (Troy Piper)
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Subject: New kernel
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Date: 29 Sep 1994 18:01:16 GMT
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I know this is probably a faq question but oh well. Is there
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any linux kernels precompiled available anywhere ? My kernel
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file is corrupted and I readlly don't feel like installing
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the entire slackware library just for the kernel. I also have
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not installed any compilers yet. This is the reason I need a
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precompiled version for the intel chipset. I would appreciate
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direct responces. PLEASE respond.
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--
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- E.W.
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-
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- Death and taxes, Political scams, Bill collectores who'll snag
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- you if they can, A leak in the ceiling, Rush hour jams, I'll
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- say it again no matter where I go or when, EVERYBODY
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- understands the blues... Glenn Kaiser.
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- WWW Mosaic page.....http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~piper936/
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From: andy@tidmmpl.csc.ti.com (Andrew J. Piziali)
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Subject: Re: Korn Shell '93 Now Available from AT&T
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Date: 30 Sep 1994 17:39:37 GMT
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In article <36f6eb$eov@psu_075.sb2.pdx.edu>, James E. McNalley
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<mcnalley@metnet.geog.pdx.edu> asked:
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What does ksh do that BASH can't do?
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How about coprocess communication (print/read -p ...), the "select" statement,
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builtin arithmetic, a command line editor which will drop you into vi/emacs,
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and parameter attributes (typeset -LZ ...), to name a few?
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--
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Andy Piziali |
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________------+------________
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work: andy@daldd.sc.ti.com / \
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home: andy@piziali.lonestar.org *---*
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From: ncorlett@vegauk.co.uk (Neil Corlett)
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Subject: Dell Dimension XPS P60 Problems
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Date: 1 Oct 1994 10:49:15 -0500
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I installed Slackware v2.01 on the above machine with the 1.0.9 kernel.
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This worked fine. I then compiled a v1.1.51 kernel that I had run on
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my previous Dell EISA machine.
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This kernel locks up the system as soon as it accesses the NE2000
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Ethernet board. No, sorry, it locks up when applications write to
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the network device. Thw kernel probes the bus and finds the board
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correctly though.
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The Dell box has a PCI bus and an AMI BIOS, rev A6. There problems
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somewhere in this as reboots from ctrl-alt-del or software lock
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the system. I also get a bios32_init error from the v1.1.51 kernel
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as it comes up.
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I would be interested to know if anyone has had similar mileage from
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this equipment. It's frustrating. I even came in over the weekend
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to fix it... Lifes like that, I guess.
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Neil
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From: wongck@bcarh828.bnr.ca (CK Wong)
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Subject: SVGA 800X640 X11 Server for MONO Monitor
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Date: 29 Sep 1994 19:11:25 GMT
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I have bought a gray scale mono SVGA monitor that can support
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256 color at 800x640 with Trident 9000 0.5 M card
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to drive it.
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It works fine in DOS/WINDOWS.
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When I select the XF86_SVGA at the 800x640 resolution,
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the character or the object is very large.
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The config file is the one from the XF86_Configure.
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The name of the Monitor is DATAS. Does any one
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has a clue ?
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From: kwh@cs.brown.edu (Kwun Han)
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Subject: Re: ISDN Support for Linux
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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 17:31:09 GMT
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In article <36d9bp$7ou@flood.xnet.com> pdalinis@amiserv.xnet.com (Pete Dalinis) writes:
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I have heard that people are working on ISDN drivers for Linux. I am
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just wondering when (how much longer), what interface brand, etc...
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And of course - are they free, and are they FTP'able or do they come with
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a particular interface?
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I am more interested in if there are anyone working on B-ISDN (ATM)
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drivers..
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Kwun
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=================================================================
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kwh@cs.brown.edu (preferred) | Box #2392, Brown University,
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kwh@lems.brown.edu | Providence, RI 02912
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Kwun_Han@brown.edu ------------------------------
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=================================================================
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From: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
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Subject: Re: Memory in 1.1.50: What is data?
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Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 20:07:43 GMT
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Followup to: <CwtKuq.FB7@rahul.net>
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By author: Kevin Martinez <lps@rahul.net>
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In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.development
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This is mine:
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Linux version 1.1.51 (root@hook) (gcc version 2.5.8) #7 Wed Sep 21
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01:45:17 CDT 1994
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Memory: 15244k/16384k available (540k kernel code, 384k reserved, 216k data)
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/hpa
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--
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INTERNET: hpa@nwu.edu --- Allah'u'abha ---
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IBM MAIL: I0050052 at IBMMAIL HAM RADIO: N9ITP or SM4TKN
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FIDONET: 1:115/511 or 1:115/512 STORMNET: 181:294/1 or 181:294/101
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Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO is the answer.
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From: robinson@sparc62.cs.uiuc.edu (Lover Man)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.admin,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
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Subject: Re: How to use a host as a router - READ THIS
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Date: 30 Sep 94 20:21:00 GMT
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jra@zeus.IntNet.net (Jay Ashworth) writes:
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>dwm@shell.portal.com (David - Morris) writes:
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>>Re. why not 127.0.0.0 instead of 127.0.0.1 -- the destination address must
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>>be a 'host' address and the host address can't be zero (0).
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>True... but I think he was talking about the destination address, not the
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>interface address... you can route either the loopback _net_, or the
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>loopback _host_, with equal facility.
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>Cheers,
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>-- jra
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>--
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>Jay R. Ashworth High Technology Systems Comsulting Ashworth
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>Designer Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation & Associates
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>ka1fjx/4
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>jra@baylink.com "Hey! Do any of you guys know how to Madison?" 813 790 7592
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Ok I have a question for you guys. Since I didn't here the beginning of
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this thread I have this particular problem:
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I have a problem. There is a machine which I dial up and get
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a slip link to. On this machines network I can access all of the
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machines. However I have to telnet to a machine I have an account on
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on that network to be able to telnet or ftp to the rest of the internet.
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Is there a way I can somehow have the machine that I do have an account
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on to act as some sort of a gateway. I've tried specifiing that machine
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as my gateway to no avail.
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####### #####################
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# Me #--------- # Dialup term server#----------+
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####### ##################### |
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# "bert"#
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#########
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$$$$|$$$$$
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$Internet$
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$$$$$$$$$$
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I want to make it look to my machine as if I am connected directly to
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the internet. And if possible to the internet that I am connected directly
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to it. I am assuming the termserver will not route packets out side of
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the network the machine "bert" lies on. I have an account on the machine
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bert, which is how I access the internet. I would like to be able to
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do what I do from bert directly from my machine, which happens to be
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a linux box.
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Here is what I see when I type the route command on my box. By the way
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which is a Linux machine.
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Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
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uicgate * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 sl0
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127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
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default uicgate * UG 0 0 4996 sl0
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uiucgate is the name of the termserver, or at least the name I gave it in
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my hosts file.
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From: mcnalley@metnet.geog.pdx.edu (James E. McNalley)
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Subject: Re: Korn Shell '93 Now Available from AT&T
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Date: 29 Sep 1994 20:01:15 GMT
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Ahmed Naas (ahmed@oea.xs4all.nl) wrote:
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: Ralph Sims (ralphs@halcyon.halcyon.com) wrote:
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: : chrisb@wombat.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Chris Bitmead) writes:
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: : >In article <CwMsBF.2no@oea.xs4all.nl> yorton@crawfish.cig.mot.com (James J. Yorton) writes:
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: : >> "The Labs raised some software packaging and porting issues
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: : >> Prices for the binary version of K-shell '93 are $99 per copy
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: : >> (per cpu) until December 31, 1994. Orders placed after that date
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: : >> will be licensed at $149 per copy. We will also write a site
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: : >> license, for a variety of platforms, without restriction as to
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: : >> the number of users or cpus, for $10,000."
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: : >$149 just for a shell? Forget it!
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: : You run a Linux box with more than one user and want to make it
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: : available to everyone, it's $10K, NOT $149. There's a lesson
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: : to be learned somewhere in there.
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: I think you misunderstood the license terms. It says $99/$149 per cpu (i.e.
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: per machine), not per user. (Hmmm. What about multiprocessor machines, you
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: say?) The $10k (source?) license makes sense for sites with hundred(s) of
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: hetrogeneous workstations.
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No it doesn't. What does ksh do that BASH can't do?
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--
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James McNalley | "I have never let my schooling interfere with my
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Linux/Unix Hacker | education" -Mark Twain
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Portland, OR | "Live free or die" -New Hampshire motto
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mcnalley@metnet.geog.pdx.edu -or- mcnalley@agora.rdrop.com
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From: plm@atcmp.nl (Peter Mutsaers)
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Subject: Re: elf benchmarks (getting closer)
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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 19:22:17 GMT
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>> On 26 Sep 1994 20:45:25 GMT, neal@ctd.comsat.com (Neal Becker)
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>> said:
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John> Wow! I guess I'll compile bash with ELF libraries!
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NB> Me too, but first figure out how you're going to boot, since you need
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NB> to do insmod , what will your shell be before insmod is run?
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Indeed. I hope the ELF loader will be a normal part of the kernel
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asap.
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--
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Peter Mutsaers | AT Computing bv, P.O. Box 1428,
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plm@atcmp.nl | 6501 BK Nijmegen, The Netherlands
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tel. work: +31 (0)80 527248 |
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tel. home: +31 (0)3405 71093 | "... En..., doet ie het al?"
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From: lewikk@grasshopper.aud.alcatel.com (Kevin K. Lewis)
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Subject: Re: Linux on multiple processors?
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Date: 30 Sep 1994 20:13:28 GMT
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In article <corey.6ba8@bbs.xnet.com> corey@bbs.xnet.com (Corey Sweeney) writes:
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While this is in the concept stage I might as well propose a time-saving step.
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How about adding multi-processor support to hurd. By the time the
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multi-processor support is ready, one could reasonably assume that hurd would
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have the linux server ready.
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Actually i see a assumption with my own plan, that might not be true. If we
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run linux as a server under mach in hurd, and we add multi-processor support to
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hurd, does that mean that linux would be multi-processor? i'm assuming so.
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From what I know, the Hurd is supposed to support multi-processor
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platforms, "out of the box". I think that's one of the primary
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purposes of the project, ie scalability.
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Corey Sweeney
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corey@bbs.xnet.com
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--
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Kevin K. Lewis | My opinions may be unreasonable
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lewikk@aud.alcatel.com | but such is the voice of inspiration
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From: mah@ka4ybr.com (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
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Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542/SCSI under Linux
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 16:22:10 GMT
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Jason Malaure (Jason@indev.demon.co.uk) wrote:
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: I would like to know how reliable SCSI generally is under Linux. I have
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: had some problems witj my Fujitsu floptical but I am quite prepared
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: to accept that lies with the way the drive behaves, however I would
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: be very interested to find out how people have been getting with
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: large SCSI drives (>1 gig or so) as I am thinking of buying one!
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In my experience, the 1540/42 "B" models are rock-solid. Have not used
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a "C" or "CF" so I can't report on them other than some rumours of problems.
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I used one for two years under Linux and have recommended them to others
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who have had no problems either. I am currently using the BusLogic 445S
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and Ultrastore 34F VESA LB cards to gain some performance, however. But
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for an all-around card, the 1540/42 B is a good card... plus you can
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find them sometimes used for around 70 bucks - not a bad deal. An outfit
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in CA is selling the Ultrastore 34F cards for 89 bucks which is a real
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good deal except that Ultrastore has gone down the tubes... if no vendor
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support bothers you, don't get one; otherwise you can get a great SCSI
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card for about 1/4 of what it cost.
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--
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"Linux! Guerrilla UNIX Development Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus."
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Mark A. Horton ka4ybr mah@ka4ybr.atl.ga.us
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P.O. Box 747 Decatur GA US 30031-0747 mah@ka4ybr.com
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+1.404.371.0291 33 45 31 N / 084 16 59 W
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From: mah@ka4ybr.com (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
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Subject: Re: Memory in 1.1.50: What is data?
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 16:31:57 GMT
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Peter Suetterlin (ps@kis.uni-freiburg.de) wrote:
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: Dick Streefland (dicks@tasking.nl) wrote:
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: : Peter Suetterlin (pit@myhost.subdomain.domain) wrote:
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: : --> Memory: 12956k/16384k available (624k kernel code, 384k reserved, 2420k data)
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: : I bet you use the BusLogic SCSI driver, because I got the same
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: Correct
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: ......
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: : patch is so small, I will include it here:
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: : --- linux/drivers/scsi/scsi.c-org Fri Aug 12 22:02:23 1994
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: : +++ linux/drivers/scsi/scsi.c Sat Sep 10 01:36:45 1994
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: : @@ -1803,7 +1803,7 @@
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: : host->hostt->cmd_per_lun;
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: :
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: : if(host->unchecked_isa_dma &&
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: : - memory_end > ISA_DMA_THRESHOLD &&
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: : + memory_end - 1 > ISA_DMA_THRESHOLD &&
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: : SDpnt->type != TYPE_TAPE) {
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: : dma_sectors += (PAGE_SIZE >> 9) * host->sg_tablesize *
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: : host->hostt->cmd_per_lun;
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: : When you have more than 16 Mb of memory, the additional buffers will
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: : still be allocated: 1 Mb for each non-tape device in the case of the
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: : BusLogic driver! It seems to me that this amount of buffers is too much,
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: : even with more than 16 Mb of memory. However, I am not too familiar with
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: : the SCSI driver, so I don't know whether this number of buffers is
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: : really necessary.
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Grumble... Grumble.... Grumble.... I have 3 1.2GB SCSI disks and
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2 SCSI CD-ROMS and 2 SCSI tapes... You're right.... 5772MB <*gone*> This
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seems a bit excessive to me also! I wonder if the Ultrastore 34F will end
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up taking as much or more? I don't see where this reserved pool needs this
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much storage, although I must say, I haven't seen any SCSI timeouts
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like I used to with the Adaptec 1542B.
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-- Mark
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--
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"Linux! Guerrilla UNIX Development Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus."
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Mark A. Horton ka4ybr mah@ka4ybr.atl.ga.us
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P.O. Box 747 Decatur GA US 30031-0747 mah@ka4ybr.com
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+1.404.371.0291 33 45 31 N / 084 16 59 W
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From: ianj@netcom.com (Ian Justman)
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Subject: Re: Mixer for PAS Cards?
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 08:40:59 GMT
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Zureal (zureal@infinet.com) wrote:
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: Has anyone made/created a mixer for the PAS? I've got the PAS 16 and no
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: way to set volume, bass, treble, etc... for my card. I've gone through
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: the linux/drivers/sound directory with no luck. I'd like such a thing if
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: possible. Pointers, ftp sites, etc....
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Try using xvmixer. It uses the XView libraries, so you'll need them in order
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to compile them. I have a PAS16 and it works just fine with it.
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I don't remember offhand where it can be found, but I'd try looking at
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ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/X as the root hierarchy of your search.
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--
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"Born to void warranties!" Ian Justman (ianj@netcom.com)
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"Never trust anyone with the SnailMail: 6612 Whitsett Drive
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surname of Gates, specific- North Highlands, CA 95660
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ally, Bill and Darryl." -Me. Phone (after 7:30PT): (916) 331-5838
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