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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Sun, 2 Oct 94 07:13:06 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #254
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Linux-Development Digest #254, Volume #2 Sun, 2 Oct 94 07:13:06 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: i486 Word length, anyone? (Andrew F. Lee)
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Re: Could TCP/IP be implemented over SCSI? (Hamish Coleman)
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Re: Token Ring driver for Linux (Jonathan Magid)
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Re: i486 Word length, anyone? (Andrew F. Lee)
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Re: Status of Mac Linux & PPC Linux? (Zack T. Smith)
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Re: What is "makedepend," and where do I get it? (Yasuo Ohgaki)
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[Wine] "Can't build if1632.o" Now what? (Joel M. Hoffman)
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Re: limit memory and add memory file system (Arnt Gulbrandsen)
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limit memory and add memory file system (Phil Howard)
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SCSI Printer? (mac) (James E. McNalley)
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Re: AMD/Automounter (Was Re: [STATUS] Linus Floppy Driver Development) (Mitchum DSouza)
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Anyone have info on Colorado Memory Systems' QFA-700 QIC-02 controller? (Craig A. Huegen)
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DOS 6.0 Interlnk->Linux??? (Jeremy Gordon)
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Re: Korn Shell '93 Now Available from AT&T (Darin Johnson)
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Re: Try this IPX bridging code ... (Steve Kneizys)
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DOS & Linux on 1GB drive (gil filer)
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----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: Andrew F. Lee <74673.2153@CompuServe.COM>
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Subject: Re: i486 Word length, anyone?
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Date: 1 Oct 1994 18:14:29 GMT
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>Quite true, and the same used to apply to bytes. Nowadays, a
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byte is
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>accepted by most people to mean "8 bits", but I've worked on a
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9-bit byte
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>machine with 3 of these bytes per word. Too weird.
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Yeah, these are all conventions of block codes (e.g. 8 bits is
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one byte etc). Convolutional codes have no fixed length, thus no
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bytes or words or nibbles...Oh and pardon me, a _WORD_ is not
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defined in ANSI C, an int is (I was using the _convetional_
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shorthand). Otherwise, an Intel i486 uses a 32 bit word.
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Andrew F Lee
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------------------------------
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From: hamish@zot.apana.org.au (Hamish Coleman)
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Subject: Re: Could TCP/IP be implemented over SCSI?
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Date: 29 Sep 1994 22:45:26 +1000
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In <ianm.780705652@miles> ianm@qualcomm.com (Ian McCloghrie) writes:
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>lim@vector.gs.tandem.com (myers_lincoln) writes:
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>>having SoundCardNet. Sound Cards would record each other's audio output from
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>>across the room. True short range wireless communication, though sleeping in
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>Ulch. Your error rate would be atrocious, I would imagine.
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>"Hey! John! Turn your music down, it's making me drop packets!"
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No, that shouldnt be too much of a problem -- simply have the drivers
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increase the output volume as the number of errors increases.
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"Hey! Ian! Turn your computer down, I cant hear the music!"
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--
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Use Linux! hamish@zot.apana.org.au
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|)}>=----------------------- This space to let ----------------------=<{(|
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``Life is like a grapefruit ... it's sort of orangey-yellow and dimpled on
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the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside too. Oh,
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and some people have half a one for breakfast.'' -- Ford Prefect
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From: jem@bittyblue.oit.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
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Subject: Re: Token Ring driver for Linux
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Date: 30 Sep 1994 21:39:15 GMT
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In article <TJB4.89.2E8B2182@niobbs1.em.cdc.gov>,
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<TJB4@niobbs1.em.cdc.gov> wrote:
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>does anyone know of a Token Ring driver for Linux??
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>
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IBM token ring support is in ALPHA testing. You can find it on sunsite.unc.edu
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in /pub/Linux/kernel/patches/network/linux-1.1.47-TR-ESDI.patch.gz.
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jem.
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From: Andrew F. Lee <74673.2153@CompuServe.COM>
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Subject: Re: i486 Word length, anyone?
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Date: 29 Sep 1994 20:35:52 GMT
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in a message from riku.saikkonen@compart.fi
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>>an apparently-BSD-ish variable called NBPW. I found its
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counterpart
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>>NBBY (Number of Bits per BYte) in the include/bsd/bsd.h file,
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so I'm
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>>assuming that NBPW is Number of Bytes Per Word. Of course, I
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could be...
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>>I tried setting it to 32 (since the 486 is a 32-bit processor
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<shrug>),
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>Hmm... This seems to be a question of definition. _I_ have
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always
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>thought that a word is defined as two bytes, or 16 bits,
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independent of
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>machine. But I don't know...
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>Anyway, int in Linux is 32-bit, short is 16-bit, and char is
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8-bit, if
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>that helps any...
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A Word in ANSI C is 16 bits (specifically unsigned) i.e. the same
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size as an int. A long is 32 bits. The registers of a 486DX (as
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opposed to SX) have a 32 bit capacity -- but I can't see what
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that has to do with the size of a _word_ as the OS sees it? I
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would try 16 bits...
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Andrew F. Lee
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------------------------------
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: zack@netcom.com (Zack T. Smith)
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Subject: Re: Status of Mac Linux & PPC Linux?
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 17:01:46 GMT
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In article <michaels-200994221552@slip-199-234-235-56.voicenet.com> michaels@omni.voicenet.com (Michael Sullivan) writes:
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>In article <msouth.780038622@BIX.com>, msouth@BIX.com (msouth on BIX)
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>wrote:
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>
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>>
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>> (get info about mac hardware)
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>>
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>> Two problems: 1) Apple documentation is intended for programmers
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>> writing for the Mac OS, or manufacturers adding additional hardware.
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>> 2) There are a *lot* of variations. Unlike the PC world,
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>> standardization is in OS software, not hardware.
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>>
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>> Example: Hardware reference manual for IIsi says, in effect,
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>> that 'the ADB ports are different from original Mac II, and
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>> any software that talks to it directly probabally won't work.' Not
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>> explained is _how_ it's different.
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>
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>Actually, the mac world is very well behaved if you follow the rules....
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>Direct access to i/o ports is strongly discouraged. There are i/o routines
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>documented in "Inside Mac" that perform the proper i/o redirection and
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>location so that the programmer really doesn't have to know the low level
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>details. There are low level traps defined that permit access at even lower
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>levels...if needed. There is a very large quantity of information available
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>from apple and others on the mac and its programming environment that is
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>availble so there is really no truth to the assertion that mac programming
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>data is hard to get or obscure. Visit the local bookstore ... various
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>volumes of "Inside Mac" (and other books) are usually available......
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>---- Mike
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A few problems with this.
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1. Inside Mac is not accurate all of the time.
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2. Inside Mac is deficient in many ways.
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3. Inside Mac is written so as to hide important details in obscure
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parts of the manuals.
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3. Mac OS calls are incredibly convoluted; they force the programmer
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to do additional work to write a normal, straightforwad, healthy interface.
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4. If you want as to why Inside Mac's suggestions don't work or about
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manual deficiencies, you have to pay Apple for developer support.
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5. To get Linux running you can't use high level Mac OS calls; doing so
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would alleviate the need for the Linux OS.
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Zack Smith
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Creator of UltraShell(tm), the C Shell for the Mac
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Demo available in pub/zack @ ftp.netcom.com.
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------------------------------
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From: yohgaki@mercury.cair.du.edu (Yasuo Ohgaki)
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Subject: Re: What is "makedepend," and where do I get it?
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 17:34:46 GMT
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Joel M. Hoffman (joel@wam.umd.edu) wrote:
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: I thought I'd give Wine a try this weekend, but I can't even get past
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: ./Configure, because that script needs "makedepend," which I don't
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: have. Where might I find it.
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It's a part of imake. Install imake packeage. (^_^)
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--
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Yasuo Ohgaki
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e-mail: yohgaki@phoebe.cair.du.edu
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From: joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman)
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Subject: [Wine] "Can't build if1632.o" Now what?
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 19:30:12 GMT
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I found a copy of makedepend, which doesn't quite work right but seems
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to work well enough, and now I'm trying to build a copy of Wine,
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specifically, wine940912. But the make keeps dying on if1632.o:
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make: *** No rule to make target `if1632.o'. Stop.
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Indeed, I can find no if1632 source file. The README mentions a small
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change to if1632.S, but I can't find that file anywhere.
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Now what?
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-Joel
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(joel@wam.umd.edu)
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--
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=============================================================================
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|_|~~ Germany, Europe. 1943. "The diameter of the bomb was 30 centimeters,
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__|~| 16 Million DEAD. and the diameter of its destruction, about 7
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meters, and in it four killed and 11 wounded.
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cnc Bosnia, Europe. 1993. And around these, in a larger circle of pain
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cnc HOW MANY MORE? and time, are scattered two hospitals and one
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cemetery. But the young woman who was buried in
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the place from where she came, at a distance of more than
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than 100 kilometers, enlarges the circle considerably. And the
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lonely man who is mourning her death in a distant country incorporates
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into the circle the whole world. And I won't speak of the cry of the orphans
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that reaches God's chair and from there makes the circle endless and godless."
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=============================================================================
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Tell Clinton to stop the genocide: president@whitehouse.gov
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------------------------------
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From: agulbra@nvg.unit.no (Arnt Gulbrandsen)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: limit memory and add memory file system
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Date: 1 Oct 1994 20:55:27 GMT
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In article <36keuf$su0@zeus.fasttax.com>,
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Phil Howard <phil@zeus.fasttax.com> wrote:
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>I'm not sure which newsgroup this belongs in because I don't know if the
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>My hardware supports DMA only on the first 16 megabytes of RAM although
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>it will support up to 64 megabytes of RAM. What I want to do is to have
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>Linux use only the first 16 megabytes in its usual way much as if the
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>machine only had 16 megabytes. Then I want to use whatever remaining
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>memory above the 16 megabyte line I happen to have installed (it is OK
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>by me to have to code this somewhere) as a memory file system.
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Sure. Set up a RAM drive in /etc/lilo.conf.
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Of course, linux will use it fairly efficiently of its own if you
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just let the buffer cache logic do its job. More efficiently that
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you can do with a RAM drive, probably.
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Oh, and re your .sig:
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>\***** phil@fasttax.com ************* Just say NO to CIX extortion ***********/
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Just say THANK YOU to karl@mcs.com
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--Arnt
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------------------------------
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From: phil@zeus.fasttax.com (Phil Howard)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: limit memory and add memory file system
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Date: 1 Oct 1994 14:57:03 -0500
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I'm not sure which newsgroup this belongs in because I don't know if the
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answer is just a configuration setting or requires a kernel hack.
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Oh, yes, I have looked in the FAQ and HOWTO ... nothing there on this.
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My hardware supports DMA only on the first 16 megabytes of RAM although
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it will support up to 64 megabytes of RAM. What I want to do is to have
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Linux use only the first 16 megabytes in its usual way much as if the
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machine only had 16 megabytes. Then I want to use whatever remaining
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memory above the 16 megabyte line I happen to have installed (it is OK
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by me to have to code this somewhere) as a memory file system. So if
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I install all 64 megabytes of RAM I could have a 48 megabyte memory file
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system.
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The basic question is how to do this. Also, do you know of any particular
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problems one might encounter with this? Is there some other scheme that
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would let me utilize the extra memory to gain some speed?
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--
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/***** Phil Howard KA9WGN *********** How about universal JOBS? **************\
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* Unix/Internet/Sys Admin Let's de-Foley-ate congress in 94 *
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* CLR/Fast-Tax Don't let Annie get your gun! *
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\***** phil@fasttax.com ************* Just say NO to CIX extortion ***********/
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------------------------------
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From: mcnalley@metnet.geog.pdx.edu (James E. McNalley)
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Subject: SCSI Printer? (mac)
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Date: 1 Oct 1994 20:28:53 GMT
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A while ago, a friend of mine who had a mac SE and some sort
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of laser-writer that connected with a SCSI port. When he upgraded
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to a PC, he asked me if there was any way he could use the LW on the
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PC, and I said no, since he had no SCSI card. Now that *I* have a
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SCSI card on my linux box (1542B), I was wondering if there is a
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driver for scsi printers in the linux kernel, or if patches are
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aviable? Thanks!
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--
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James McNalley | "I have never let my schooling interfere with my
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Linux/Unix Hacker | education" -Mark Twain
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Portland, OR | "Live free or die" -New Hampshire motto
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mcnalley@metnet.geog.pdx.edu -or- mcnalley@agora.rdrop.com
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------------------------------
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From: Mitchum.DSouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk (Mitchum DSouza)
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Subject: Re: AMD/Automounter (Was Re: [STATUS] Linus Floppy Driver Development)
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Date: 30 Sep 1994 10:44:31 GMT
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In article <Cwvx26.MtD@pe1chl.ampr.org>, rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) writes:
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|> In <36c7lh$j6m@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mitchum.DSouza@mrc-apu.cam.ac.uk (Mitchum
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|> DSouza) writes:
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|>
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|> >Its funny how so many people want this feature from AMD. For a very good
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|> reason
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|> >(performance mainly) UFS mounts (of which a floopy is one) are made not to
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|> >timeout.
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|>
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|> What is the performance impact of unmounting/mounting a floppy which has
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|> not been removed from the drive? Did you actually try this?
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|> (on my machine, it re-mounts instaneously...)
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I was not talking specifically about floppies but generally about UFS mounts
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which are made not to timeout. There is nothing that distinguishes (from
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the amd point of view) a floppy and your hard-drive. This means that once amd
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starts it adds your hard disk mounts to its internal table of mounts, for e.g
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% amq -m
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"root" sirius:(pid132) root 1 localhost is up
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/dev/sd0a / ufs 1 localhost is up
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/dev/sd0g /usr ufs 1 localhost is up
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/dev/sd0h /export/home ufs 1 localhost is up
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/usr/etc/amd.home /home toplvl 1 localhost is up
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...etc...
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Clearly I would not want the three hd ufs mounts to timeout ever.
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In theory a type of "subufs" could be added to amd making these timeout(able),
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so that removable media (floppys and cdroms) would fall into this category.
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Mitch
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------------------------------
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From: c-huegen@crh0033.urh.uiuc.edu (Craig A. Huegen)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Anyone have info on Colorado Memory Systems' QFA-700 QIC-02 controller?
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Date: 1 Oct 1994 20:53:34 GMT
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Does anyone have any information on Colorado Memory Systems' QFA-700
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QIC-02 controller/tape drive combo? I purchased one for my DOS machine,
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but I'd like to be able to use it with Linux.
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Problem is, Colorado Memory Systems have since discontinued the product,
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yet they aren't giving any information on programming the controller card.
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I'd like to write a device driver for it, if anyone has any information
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on it. The controller card uses Stac hardware compression, and is
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jumperless.
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Thanks for any help in advance...
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--Craig
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------------------------------
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From: jgordon@wam.umd.edu (Jeremy Gordon)
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Subject: DOS 6.0 Interlnk->Linux???
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Date: 1 Oct 1994 04:10:05 GMT
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i like linux so much it took over my computer, and now i don't even
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have a dos partition....
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but i am an atari jaguar developer, and i need to have dos, solution,
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buy another computer, so i did, its a notebook (compaq contura aero)
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i am trying to avoid paying $150+ for a PCMCIA ethernet card, (and the
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ensuing dos networking software) so i would like to inquire on the
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feasability of making dos's parallel port "network mounted drive" program
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"interlnk.exe" work under linux (ie have a linux version of "intersvr.exe")
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i have experience with mucking about in the linux kernel, and plenty of
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C programming experience, and given the availability of parallel port source
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(ie plip) it seems feasible...
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bottom line, anyone know how to go about getting the protocol for interlnk??
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if i just wanted to ftp, etc i'd use the crywnr patches to plip to be compat
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with dos plip.com, but then i need some pc-nfs client, or samba and windows
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for workgroups, all of which are $$$ and take up loads of low dos memory...
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any ideas???
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-jeremy
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questions/comments/answers to jgordon@animator.slip.umd.edu
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======================================================================
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Jeremy Gordon
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Senior Programmer
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Hyper Image Productions
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(jgordon@animator.slip.umd.edu)
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------------------------------
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From: djohnson@arnold.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
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Subject: Re: Korn Shell '93 Now Available from AT&T
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Date: 01 Oct 1994 21:23:54 GMT
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> What does ksh do that BASH can't do?
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>
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> How about coprocess communication (print/read -p ...), the "select" statement,
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> builtin arithmetic, a command line editor which will drop you into vi/emacs,
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> and parameter attributes (typeset -LZ ...), to name a few?
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This is enough to warrant $99? You can pay someone that amount
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to add it to bash or zsh.
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Also - "fc" under both bash and zsh pops up an editor for me.
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I find bash and zsh much nicer for interactive use.
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--
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Darin Johnson
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djohnson@ucsd.edu
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Support your right to own gnus.
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------------------------------
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Subject: Re: Try this IPX bridging code ...
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From: STEVO@acad.ursinus.edu (Steve Kneizys)
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Date: 30 Sep 94 17:59:42 EST
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Alan Cox (iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk) wrote:
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: In article <1994Sep25.223539.260@acad.ursinus.edu> STEVO@acad.ursinus.edu (Steve Kneizys) writes:
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: >If somebody wanted to isolate an IPX net/server from the main net
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: >in terms of packet density but did not want to change the net
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: >numbers, well, bridging would be an option! I may decide to add
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: >it to my above bridge, as bridging is faster than routing.
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: No bridging is normally slower than routing as you process more packets
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: at the software level.
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Nah...depends on the speed of your algorithms! Has nothing to do with
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packet density, unless your algorithms are so slow that packets come
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in faster than you can filter them. Think about it for a second...the
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CPU overhead may be different, but network throughput depends on how
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much time you spend processing the packet. If I can lookup an
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Ethernet address and determine what interface, if any, to send out
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faster than looking up in a table, changing the hop count and
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checksum, net number, then sending out then bridging is faster.
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There is less CPU overhead though with routing, when packets to be
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routed are the only ones processed. If this is what you mean by faster
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I'd agree to the effect but I'd say you need to change your description
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of the phenomena.
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Steve...
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From: nizan@ccsg.tau.ac.il (gil filer)
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Subject: DOS & Linux on 1GB drive
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Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 21:24:24 GMT
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I have just installed a new HD it is Conner 1GB. I planed to put 250mb for linux and the rest for dos.
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dinse dos cant use more the the first 540 mb from the 1GB I had to install Disk Manager (DM) that came with the Had disk.
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but what the DM do is make the hole 1GB one partition, and making a new partition table somewhere elese so that fdisk of dos will be able to config.
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now, when I run the fdisk from linux diskets, and I am looking to the disk
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I see just one partition and the 1gb is all used up, and I cant use the disk.
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what to do?
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please send responce to me too.
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-Sefi
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