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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Sat, 8 Oct 94 10:13:05 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #279
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Linux-Development Digest #279, Volume #2 Sat, 8 Oct 94 10:13:05 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Status of Linux and Distributions security (Alan Cox)
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NIS on Linux (Ari Widodo)
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Orchid Soundwave32 (Christian Linhart)
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Re: What GUI to write for? (Warner Losh)
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Re: Compiling progs using port I/O (Thomas Koenig)
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Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree (Bill C. Riemers)
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Re: Orchid CDS-3110 CD-ROM (Adam J. Richter)
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Re: What GUI to write for? (Matt Meola)
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Re: Linux For Mac (Andi Kleen)
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Re: Does linux implement semaphores? (Harald Milz)
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Re: [fdformat] kernel 1.1.52 (Verhaeghe Pieter)
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Re: Korn Shell '93 Now Available from AT&T (Chet Ramey)
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Re: VESA and SVGAlib? (Howard P. Henson)
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NCR53c810 card and Technoland (Stavros J Haidos)
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What is the Status of the Adaptec 2940W SCSI-3 support? (Wigs)
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Re: Telnet & ftp freeze! - AND UNFREEZE KLUDGE (System Administrator)
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Re: [fdformat] kernel 1.1.52 (Alain Knaff)
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Re: Compiling progs using port I/O (Brandon S. Allbery)
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Status of Linux and Distributions security
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 18:24:05 GMT
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In article <36o1rs$8bh@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> dlm40629@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel L. Marks) writes:
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>Linux's reptuation would seem to me to be partially based on its perceived
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>efficacy in preventing system break-ins and crashes. Does Linux have
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>the kind of safety record that should earn it the kind of reputation
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>that the commerical UNIXes have?
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Given the reputation of some of them I should hope not 8). I don't think
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there is any material difference to be honest except that when a bug
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shows up you have the source code handy to fix it.
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Alan
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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From: ari@athena1.cent.saitama-u.ac.jp (Ari Widodo)
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Subject: NIS on Linux
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 08:52:28 GMT
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Hi guys,
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I would like to run NIS on my linux, and I want to know
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if there is a NIS packages for Linux ?
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Thanks before,
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Regards,
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Ari
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--
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===== A R I W I D O D O E=mail: ari@cent.saitama=u.ac.jp =====
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Saitama University Dept. of Electrical and Electonic Engineering
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Member of ACCESS, Information Processing Center.
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From: chris@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Christian Linhart)
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Subject: Orchid Soundwave32
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 17:50:25 GMT
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Has anyone succeeded in getting an Orchid Soundwave32 run under
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Linux ? I tried to but failed.
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The docs claim the card to be compatible with, among others,
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Soundblaster but they say that the compatibility is invoked by the
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dos or windoze driver loading some code to the DSP of the soundcard
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which means bad luck for Linux I think :-(.
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I configured and compiled the kernel with Soundblaster support and
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the same DMA/IRQ-Settings as used under DOS/Windoze but it doesn't
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work :-(. cat /dev/sndstat showes a Soundblaster driver to be installed
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but cat anything >/dev/audio just shows "no such device or address".
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Oh, and the kernel I used is version 1.0.9.
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Thanks in advance for any input on this subject,
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Chris
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--
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Christian Linhart (chris@cosy.sbg.ac.at),
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Student of Computer Science & Math at Salzburg University (Austria, Europe)
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"Linux is a movement, a philosophy, where programmers and technical people
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take control of their own destiny." Tim Bass in comp.os.linux.misc
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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.intrinsics
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From: imp@boulder.parcplace.com (Warner Losh)
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Subject: Re: What GUI to write for?
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 21:14:19 GMT
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In article <371bmk$5r8@ics.com> dbl@ics.com (David B. Lewis) writes:
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>|> Motif is a user interface specification, i.e., a prescription of how certain
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>|> things are supposed to look and behave on a computer screen.
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>This is incorrect; OSF/Motif is an API. OSF's implementation has a particular
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>behavior; applications which offer this behavior can be certified as
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>Motif-compliant, whether or not they are using an implementation of OSF/Motif
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>derived from OSF's source or some other toolkit.
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There is no process, that I'm aware of, to certify third part toolkits
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as Motif compliant. We've been looking for one for some time, and it
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doesn't exist, except at the API level.
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There is no process that I'm aware of that certifies an application as
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Motif compliant. There are documents that talk about the app doing
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this or that and present a checklist, but no organization to do the
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certification.
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There is a API certification test suite.
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>Note that the visuals are not specified, although they are the most obvious
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>characteristic of the toolkit and the one that Motif knock-offs emulate, at
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>the cost of behavior.
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Not all Motif reimplementations ignore the behavior. We've put a lot
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of effort into OI to make sure that you can't tell the difference
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between it and OSF/Motif in a blind taste test. There are some things
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that are different, but the major look issues, as well as the feel
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issues are the same.
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Warner
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--
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Warner Losh imp@boulder.parcplace.COM ParcPlace Boulder
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"... but I can't promote you to "Prima Donna" unless you demonstrate a few
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more serious personality disorders"
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From: ig25@fg30.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas Koenig)
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Subject: Re: Compiling progs using port I/O
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 18:11:00 GMT
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Reply-To: Thomas.Koenig@ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de
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Brandon S. Allbery (bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org) wrote in comp.os.linux.development,
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article <1994Oct7.162235.9369@kf8nh.wariat.org>:
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>People are forgetting that user mode programs should not be using direct port
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>I./O in most cases; that belongs in the kernel.
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Depends. I'd rather write a user-mode driver for something than mess
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with the kernel. For one thing, gdb /vmlinuz seems to fail on my
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system ;-)
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--
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Thomas Koenig, Thomas.Koenig@ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de, ig25@dkauni2.bitnet.
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The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double
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logarithmic diagram.
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From: bcr@k9.via.term.none (Bill C. Riemers)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Re: Beautifying Linux/Xfree
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Date: 08 Oct 1994 05:17:40 GMT
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Reply-To: bcr@physics.purdue.edu
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>>>>> "Tom" == Tom Wilson <ctwilson@mercury.interpath.net> writes:
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Tom> In article <372tg0$1ai@huron.eel.ufl.edu>, Alexandra Griffin
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Tom> <acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu> wrote:
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Tom> :3) Another idea from HP-VUE... this environment
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Tom> features a "console :bar" area at the bottom of the screen,
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Tom> containing buttons to switch :virtual desktops, invocation
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Tom> icons for commonly-used apps, small icons
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It already exists. Its called "GoodStuff" and is part of fvwm. For
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example, I prefere to put stuff on the side. So I have a left
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"management" area that contains the following:
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> Icon space. Boarders would be a nice addition...
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You can set this up however you want, and map about anything to
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buttons with any icon. My only complaint is the default size of
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the buttons are too large. But this is easily changed.
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Here is what I have mapped:
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A. Previous desktop B. Next desktop C. Resize window
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D. Move window E. Lower window F. Iconify/deiconify
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G. Kill window H. Xmagnify I. xman J. xmail
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K. xfilemanager L. xterm M. Desk-0 indicator
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N. Exit/Restart/Refresh menu.
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Each button has an icon that shows clearly what the button does.
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i.e. Forexample button N shows a stop sign.
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By using the side, istead of the bottom, I still have about 1024x910
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of my 1152x910 display left. Leaving me ruffly a square screen area
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to work with.
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Tom> I've been toying with somthing quite similar using fvwm and
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Tom> xfm...the functionality is quite similar if you don't mind
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Tom> using fvwm's virtual desktops.
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Whats wrong with them. I prefere virtual screens to virtual desktops,
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but normally I use a combination of both. i.e. Completely separate
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projects go on different desktops, the same project overflows to
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different virtual screens. Since it is a pain sticking windows
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switching to another desktop and then unsticking them (the only way
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I know to move windows between desktops) virtual screens tend to
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be easier.
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Tom> :for system functions (logging out...), and space for a
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Tom> clock, :calendar, Xload bargraph, & other stuff. The
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Tom> appearance of the bar is :very professional, with little
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Tom> beveled insets for each item. I'm
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You can arrange your desktop however you want. I agree this should be
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much easier to configure. It took me quite awhile to come-up with
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something I think looks just as professional as as the HP-UX
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environment. Even longer to improve on it. "vuewm" is you can't
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load your own background, you have to stick to ugly patterns.
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I much prefere being able to have 'xv" load a random picture from
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CD every 5 or so minuites, so I'm not constantly looking at the
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same thing.
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What is really needed is:
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1. A Null box. i.e. Something that can be used to mark areas for
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xload, xbiff, and icons even when they aren't present, but as
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far as the window manager is conserned don't exist.
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2. Auto-resume from last session. i.e. Each time I end-up opening
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several xterms in one screen, emacs somewhere else, Mosaic, ...
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if fvwm could remember what I had running when I quit and ask
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me to restart them again, it would be quite a timesaver.
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Bill
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--
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<A HREF=" http://physics.purdue.edu/~bcr/homepage.html ">
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<EM><ADDRESS> Bill C. Riemers, bcr@physics.purdue.edu </ADDRESS></EM></A>
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<A HREF=" http://www.physics.purdue.edu/ ">
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<EM> Department of Physics, Purdue University </EM></A>
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From: adam@yggdrasil.com (Adam J. Richter)
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Subject: Re: Orchid CDS-3110 CD-ROM
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 19:14:05 GMT
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In article <nugent.781475145@phyast>,
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Peter Nugent <nugent@phyast.nhn.uoknor.edu> wrote:
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>I've recently purchased a pentium computer from Comtrade that has a brand
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>new Orchid CDS-3100 CD-ROM on it. The cdrom manual says it supports both
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>Mitsumi and Sony interface standards. I have compiled kernels with both
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>these drivers and the results are as follows.
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>Sony: Nothing...No error messages at all...No action from the cdrom.
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>Mitsumi: Error message saying it can't find the cdrom at IRQ 11...
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> The cdrom makes a spine chilling noise that won't stop
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> until you reboot.
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>As to the error message from the Mitsumi driver my NCR scsi driver is at
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>IRQ 11. (By the way Drew Eckhardt's driver works well, no problems at all,
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>with my SCSI card.) I have set my cdrom up at IRQ 10, I/O address 320.
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>First off, is it just a pipe dream to think that this cdrom will work with
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>either of these drivers? Second, If one of these drivers can work with it
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>is there a way to set the IRQ and I/O address in the drivers so it will
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>grab the right one (or does it always auto-detect these properly)?
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>Third, and finally, is anyone developing a driver for this cd-rom?
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>I'd appreciate any comments regarding this cd-rom.
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>Thanks,
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>
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>Peter Nugent
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>nugent@phyast.nhn.uoknor.edu
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The Orchid CDROM drive does not work with any of the current
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Linux device drivers, however we did test it with the DOS callback
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driver in the Yggdrasil Fall 1994 distribution and that worked. I
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believe that driver is FTPable from sunsite.unc.edu, and, of course
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it is part of our CDROM, which you buy from your local computer store
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or directly from us.
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--
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Adam J. Richter Yggdrasil Computing, Incorporated
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(408) 261-6630 "Free Software For The Rest of Us."
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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.intrinsics,gnu.misc.discuss
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From: gaulj@cscns.com (Matt Meola)
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Subject: Re: What GUI to write for?
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 13:28:36 GMT
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Mario Klebsch DG1AM (mkl@rob.cs.tu-bs.de) wrote:
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: Hello!
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: shendrix@escape.widomaker.com (Shannon Hendrix) writes:
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: >rmtodd@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Richard Michael Todd) writes:
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: >>toshok@cs.uidaho.edu (Chris Toshok) writes:
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: >>>upon. It shouldn't be too terribly hard to come up with a widget set that
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: >>>is complete and looks nice (Motifish), compiles on just about anything, and
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: >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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: One main point agains Motif in my opinion is that I want a GUI
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: (Grafical User Interface). The Motif specification is full of Keyboard
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: User Interface (I do not think of shortcuts). Every Motif program has
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: to be usable without a mouse. This leads to jumping default buttons
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: and lots of other strange things. Why are there functions like move
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: and resize in the menu in the upper left corner? To be used with
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: keyboard UI? Or, because the graphical resize UI is to hard to use?
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: The corners are to small to hit on first try?
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That's the one thing I *like* about Motif -- you don't have to take
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your fingers off the keyboard to use it. The user of a program should
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ALWAYS have the option of using the mouse or the keyboard.
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Matt Meola
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From: andi@golem.greenie.muc.de (Andi Kleen)
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Subject: Re: Linux For Mac
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 14:00:03 GMT
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Henry Ware (hware@bronze.coil.com) wrote:
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> In article <WRASMAN.94Oct6152442@duncan.cs.utk.edu>,
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> Aaron 'Raz' Wrasman <wrasman@duncan.cs.utk.edu> wrote:
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> >Actually could I get some info on Linux for the Mac also?
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> Whats to tell? The Linux FAQ lists no 68k mac ports, GNU doesn't support
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> Apple (because of Apple's "look and feel" lawsuits), and I haven't heard
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> of any (except for the PowerMac port).
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There should be a mac 68k port (and one for the PowerMac) soon:
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From the linux-activists-680x0 mailing list:
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============= please bite here ============= bitte hier abbeissen =========
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From: dat94gan@ludat.lth.se (George Andrei)
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Subject: Linux 68k Mac
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Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 16:12:46 +0200
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Hi folks!
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Just wanna to tell you that the first alpha working version of Linux 68k Mac will be available for the people around december/january...
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That's because i don't have anything to do until then.. :-)
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============= please bite here ============= bitte hier abbeissen =========
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-Andi
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|andi@golem.greenie.muc.de Nonsense is better than no sense at all.
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|Andi Kleen@2:2480/440.12 -NoMeansNo, 0+2=1
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|PGP-Key available.
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From: hm@ix.de (Harald Milz)
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Subject: Re: Does linux implement semaphores?
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Reply-To: hm@ix.de
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 17:16:03 GMT
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In comp.os.linux.development, Neal Patrick Howland (nhowland@ksu.ksu.edu) wrote:
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> I was wondering in the standard linux develpment packages implemented
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> a semaphore synchronization call. If not, how do you synchronize two
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> processes to keep them from entering their critical sections at the same
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> time?
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Using named pipes is an elegant method to achieve this.
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--
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"You'll never be the man your mother was!"
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--
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Harald Milz (hm@ix.de) WWW: http://www.ix.de/editors/hm.html
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iX Multiuser Multitasking Magazine phone +49 (511) 53 52-377
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Helstorfer Str. 7, D-30625 Hannover fax +49 (511) 53 52-378
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Opinions stated herein are my own, not necessarily my employer's.
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From: pive@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE (Verhaeghe Pieter)
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Subject: Re: [fdformat] kernel 1.1.52
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Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 07:00:27 GMT
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Hi,
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I had the same problem, I solved it this way:
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setfdprm -p /dev/fd0 1440/1440;fdformat /dev/fd0H1440
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or
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setfdprm -p /dev/fd0 720/1440;fdformat /dev/fd0H720
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P.
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P. Verhaeghe (pive@ruca.ua.ac.be)
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University of Antwerp,RUCA,Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
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Groenenborgerlaan 171 Tel: +32 3 2180376
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B-2020 Antwerpen, Belgium Fax: +32 3 2180204
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From: chet@odin.INS.CWRU.Edu (Chet Ramey)
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Subject: Re: Korn Shell '93 Now Available from AT&T
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 20:59:18 GMT
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In article <36qm00$f6c@www.interramp.com>,
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Tom Czarnik <tomc@netmanage.com> wrote:
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>The nice "ksh -r" which makes it restricted. I really need that now and have
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>scoured the bash (and every other free shell) manual, but nobody implements
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>it.
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If bash is compiled with RESTRICTED_SHELL defined, running `bash -r' or
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running bash as `rbash' implements the same restrictions as the ksh
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restricted mode.
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--
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``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
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Chet Ramey, Case Western Reserve University Internet: chet@po.CWRU.Edu
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From: hhenson@inyanga.cs.wits.ac.za (Howard P. Henson)
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Subject: Re: VESA and SVGAlib?
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Date: 6 Oct 1994 11:18:12 GMT
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Andy Bailey (bailey9@muvms6.wvnet.edu) wrote:
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: I have what might be a dumb question, about SVGAlib and video modes. I don't
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: know diddly about programming graphics drivers, but here goes.
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: With most DOS applications, namely graphics viewers, instead of specifying
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: the drive specific to my card, I simply use the VESA driver, and voila, all my
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: cardsmodes are recognized. Would this be possible for SVGAlib? I have overheard
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: bits of conversation among Linux developers about avoiding making BIOS calls (
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: I guess to ensure portability to other processors). Is the case the same here?
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The problem is not so much portability as the fact that VESA
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drivers (and I asume you have a bios version) is 16 bit code and to run
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it would require on to change CPU modes, and start thunking (16 -> 32 bit
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conversions) etc. producing i) Slow access ii) Possible unstabilities on
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the system which may land up with system crashes etc.
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Howard
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~ Rotating the object by ~
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~ Howard Henson <hhenson@inyanga.cs.wits.ac.za> ~
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~ mans quest for object orientaion ends here! ~
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~ ~
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From: haid0002@gold.tc.umn.edu (Stavros J Haidos)
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Subject: NCR53c810 card and Technoland
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Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 21:48:18 GMT
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In the scsi-howto it states that you can get a NCR56c810 card that will work
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on the pci bus. When I called up the number given for Technoland they told me
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that the card will only work on one type of pci mother board and that it will
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not work on a 90 mhz 586 mother board. Is this true? Is there any way I can
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get a board like this to work on a P90 and under linux? Please help. Thanks!
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--
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-Steve
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From: wiegley@phakt.usc.edu (Wigs)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: What is the Status of the Adaptec 2940W SCSI-3 support?
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 14:52:22 -0700
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I freed up some funds and I'm going to purchase another Linux machine.
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I freed up a lot of funds so I want to get the best.
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I've seen a couple of adds for what I think are really good systems but
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they use the Adaptec 2940W fast, WIDE SCSI-3 controller and I was wondering
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what the status of the device drivers are for this machine under Linux.
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Could the people in the know please forward any information they have on
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this.
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Thank you,
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- Jeff Wiegley
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From: root@jaguar.tigerden.com (System Administrator)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Re: Telnet & ftp freeze! - AND UNFREEZE KLUDGE
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Date: 7 Oct 1994 21:57:57 GMT
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Alan Cox (iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk) wrote:
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: What is interesting is everyone reporting the problem uses PPP. I've looked
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: through the PPP driver but I can't see anything wrong with it.
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We are using SLIP! And the problems we see are not *after* a connection
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is successfully opened, it is one of the system *refusing* connections
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(apparently). Nearly all functions handled by inetd seem affected:
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telnet logins, rlogins, ftp attempts, smail connections, attemps to do
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zone transfers from named by our provider's router, you name it. Things
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work fine *most* of the time, but the login problems are the most
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persistant and visible. In those cases, the system log *usually* shows
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'connect from...' but the user never gets a prompt, or never gets a
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password prompt after entering username. Netd entries in the log are
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'connection refused' mostly.
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George Nemeyer (root@tigerden.com)
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System Administrator
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Tigerden.com
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From: knaff@ngulu (Alain Knaff)
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Subject: Re: [fdformat] kernel 1.1.52
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Date: 8 Oct 1994 13:23:13 GMT
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Reply-To: Alain.Knaff@imag.fr
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A.Couture@agora.stm.it wrote:
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: [fdformat] kernel 1.1.52
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: I justed installed the kernel patch 1.1.52, and now I have problem using
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: fdformat. I abort with an IOCTRL error.
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[...]
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[oops, yet another floppy bug]
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It can be fixed by applying the following small patch:
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--- linux-1.1.52/drivers/block/floppy.c Thu Oct 6 20:56:59 1994
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+++ linux/drivers/block/floppy.c Sat Oct 8 13:50:38 1994
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@@ -1745,6 +1745,7 @@
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raw_cmd.track = format_req.track << floppy->stretch;
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buffer_track = -1;
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setup_format_params();
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+ clear_bit(current_drive, &changed_floppies);
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floppy_start();
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#ifdef DEBUGT
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debugt("queue format request");
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: Another note, I've also experiemented lately the 'suspend' feature of the
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: notebook, which save a memory image to disk, then sh
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: tdown.
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: It works fine under linux, great, only problem is related 'also' to the
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: floppy. When I restart the system, the floppy start a
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: d won't stop until I access it (mount). Any idea???
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Sorry, no idea about that one...
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: regards
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: andre couture
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--
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Alain
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From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
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Subject: Re: Compiling progs using port I/O
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 21:14:16 GMT
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In article <3742vk$3ie@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>, Thomas.Koenig@ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de says:
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+---------------
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| Brandon S. Allbery (bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org) wrote in comp.os.linux.development,
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| article <1994Oct7.162235.9369@kf8nh.wariat.org>:
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| >People are forgetting that user mode programs should not be using direct port
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| >I./O in most cases; that belongs in the kernel.
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| Depends. I'd rather write a user-mode driver for something than mess
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| with the kernel. For one thing, gdb /vmlinuz seems to fail on my
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| system ;-)
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+------------->8
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Maybe, but the next step after that is interrupts and DMA and trying to do
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those from user space will probably crash the system if they don't fail
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because of insufficient permissions.
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Remember also that port I/O from a user process can easily interfere with
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devices it shouldn't touch, and thereby corrupt data or crash the system
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(consider accidentally diddling the disk controller's ports).
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++Brandon
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--
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Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH [44.70.4.88] bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org
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Linux development: iBCS2, JNOS, MH ~\U
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Daily dreading Nehemiah Scudder^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HRush Limbaugh
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