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From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 94 22:13:07 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Development Digest #309
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Linux-Development Digest #309, Volume #2 Fri, 14 Oct 94 22:13:07 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: GNUStep...Is It Real or Just a Hoax?!? (Derrik Walker II)
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Re: wxWindows 1.50k shared lib wanted (Tall Sword)
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Re: FTP slowdown under 1.1.52 with hdparm on (Mark Lord)
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Re: my floppy stopped working with 1.1.52 (haw30@eng.amdahl.com)
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Re: question about the kernel (Matthias Urlichs)
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Mount NTFS?? (Tall Sword)
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Qlogic (Tillman Bussey)
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Re: SMail security hole? (Patrick Schaaf)
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Re: Linux Access to PCI configuration space (Markus Kuhn)
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Re: Could TCP/IP be implemented over SCSI? (Hauke Jans)
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Writing to OS/2 HPFS...how soon? (Martin Chee-Keen LAI)
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Re: FTP slowdown under 1.1.52 with hdparm on (Hamish Macdonald)
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fixed a bug in minicom (Timothy L. Kay)
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ll_rw_block usage (Matthias Sattler)
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Re: New Motif lib's for use with XFree 3.1 (Chris Flatters)
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Re: Unable to find XF86-3.1-lib.tar.gz with correct sum. (Ledford George D)
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Re: Shared library - HOW? (Bruce Bigby)
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Convert Linux binaries <-> UnixWhere ELF format ? (Ben Sander)
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----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: dewalker@cis.csuohio.edu (Derrik Walker II)
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Subject: Re: GNUStep...Is It Real or Just a Hoax?!?
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 18:09:07 GMT
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Martin Michlmayr (tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at) wrote:
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: There is such a project.
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: GNUStep will run under X.It is as portable as the GNU Objective-C
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: compiler. This current includes SunOS 4.1, Solaris 2.3, Ultrix 4.2, HP/UX
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: 9.x, SGI IRIX, OSF/1, FreeBSD, Linux, and perhaps others (but not AIX).
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Why not AIX? Somtime in the future I may want to get an RS/6000 :(
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That means I'll have to get an SGI (I really like the Indies, but there
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so expensive coompared to the RS/6000's ).
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Oh well, Until I graduate and get my Degree, It's linux, So maybe I'll
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end up using linux for Prep :)
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: There are several parts, which together build the GNU OpenStep project.
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: One of those parts is the objcX library.
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: objcX emulates NeXTSTEP and not OpenStep. There is a lot of work to do
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: to convert it to OpenStep.
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: There is no Display PostScipt suport yet, Keith Mason <keith@netcom.com>
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: is coding this.
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: There is also a FAQ, please contact me to get it.
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Yes I would like a copy of the FAQ.
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: It is real, to join the mailing list, send mail to
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: gnustep-l-request@netcom.com.
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Some one else gave that to me, I sent it out yesterday but still have not
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got a reply.
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I'm glad it was real and not my imagination. I was beginig to think I
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would have to do it my self :)
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: : If there is such a project, who do I contact to get involved?
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: me (tbm@tci002.uibk.ac.at)
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I'm relativly new to Linux, but I know some UNIX and could use this as an
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opertunity to learn a lot. Coud you include a list of what needs to be done?
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BTW: I think the news program here is screwing up my address.
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Please use dwalker@omega.csuohio.edu.
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Thanks.
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--
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-Derrik
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===============================================================================
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Derrik Walker II Student of Computer Sciences
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Cleveland State University Automation Assistant, Law Library
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d.k.walker85@csuohio.edu dewalker@grail.cba.csuohio.edu
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===============================================================================
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http://pclab19.law.csuohio.edu:8099/html/dwalker/home.html
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------------------------------
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From: cs_kokim@dmf123.ust.hk (Tall Sword)
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Subject: Re: wxWindows 1.50k shared lib wanted
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 19:11:26 GMT
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Jens Claussen (claussen@db.fmi.uni-passau.de) wrote:
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: You can find a shell archive containing a script and instructions on
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: how to build a wxwin shared library in
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: skye.aiai.ed.ac.uk:/pub/wxwin/contrib/linux_shared_lib.shar
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: (This is the home site for wxwin, anyway.)
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I have followed the instructions of that script but finally fails. Do you
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get the binary of the shared lib?
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--
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* Origin: TallSword, Computer Science Year 2, HKUST
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internet: cs_kokim@dmf123.ust.hk, cs_kokim@stu.ust.hk
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root@dmf123.ust.hk, raymond@dmf123.ust.hk
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Raymond.Ko@f15.n700.z6.ftn.air.org
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fidonet: Raymond Ko, 6:700/15@fidonet.org
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------------------------------
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From: mlord@bnr.ca (Mark Lord)
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Subject: Re: FTP slowdown under 1.1.52 with hdparm on
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Date: 14 Oct 1994 21:23:54 GMT
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In article <37mpn2$7h2@bmerha64.bnr.ca> Hamish.Macdonald@bnr.ca writes:
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<>>>>> mlord@bnr.ca (Mark Lord) wrote:
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<
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<Mark> By default, the linux hard disk driver performs much of it's I/O with
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<Mark> all other interrupts masked.
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<
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<What is the reason behind this?? Crappy clone hardware?
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Suprisingly enough, a number of drives do not seem to tolerate latencies
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during data transfers.. once they start piping data to/from the CPU, they
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expect it to continue uninterrupted for the full block.
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This problem appears to exist mostly with drives with tiny on-board buffers,
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like 64KB or 32KB or less. With high density platters, there can be 64 or
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more sectors per physical (internal) track on the drive, and not enough
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buffer space to hold more than one track at a time.. seems to cause problems.
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Brands known to include some models which fail include Maxtor, Quantum,
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and Conner. Using a lower multiple-sector count (like 2 or 4 instead of 32)
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helps in some cases, but several drives won't tolerate -u1 *at all*.
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In some cases, I have received reports of a particular drive model working,
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and the next day received a report of the same model failing for someone else.
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Too inconsistent to hardcode the models in hd.c as a preventative measure.
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The problem also exists for some older MFM/RLL/ESDI drives.
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--
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mlord@bnr.ca Mark Lord BNR Ottawa,Canada 613-763-7482
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From: haw30@eng.amdahl.com
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Subject: Re: my floppy stopped working with 1.1.52
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 16:33:42 GMT
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I'm seeing the same problems with the diskette controller on the
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BT445S (with BT device driver - haven't tried AHA1542 driver),
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DX2066, SIS461 based motherboard and 20M memory.
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Henry Worth - henry.worth@amail.amdahl.com
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No, I don't speak for Amdahl... I'm not even sure I speak for myself.
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From: urlichs@smurf.noris.de (Matthias Urlichs)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.internals,comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: question about the kernel
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Date: 14 Oct 1994 15:53:27 +0100
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In comp.os.linux.development, article <dyue.782058914@mega>,
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dyue@mega.cs.umn.edu (Dongxiao Yue) writes:
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>
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> Can someone tell me how and where the critical sections are protected?
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If the critical sections are not accessed from interrupt code, there's no
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need to lock access. Reason: Switching between processes happens when
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somebody calls schedule(). Interrupts don't call schedule() and nobody
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switches processes behind your back. QED.
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--
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Matthias Urlichs \ XLink-POP N<>rnberg | EMail: urlichs@smurf.noris.de
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Schleiermacherstra<EFBFBD>e 12 \ Unix+Linux+Mac | Phone: ...please use email.
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90491 N<>rnberg (Germany) \ Consulting+Networking+Programming+etc'ing 42
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PGP: 1B 89 E2 1C 43 EA 80 44 15 D2 29 CF C6 C7 E0 DE
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Click <A HREF="http://smurf.noris.de/~urlichs/finger">here</A>.
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From: cs_kokim@dmf123.ust.hk (Tall Sword)
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Subject: Mount NTFS??
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 19:13:34 GMT
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As I know, we can mount msdos(rw) and hpfs(ro). How about Windows NT
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File System, NTFS?? Any one work on it?
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--
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* Origin: TallSword, Computer Science Year 2, HKUST
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internet: cs_kokim@dmf123.ust.hk, cs_kokim@stu.ust.hk
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root@dmf123.ust.hk, raymond@dmf123.ust.hk
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Raymond.Ko@f15.n700.z6.ftn.air.org
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fidonet: Raymond Ko, 6:700/15@fidonet.org
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From: tab@crl.com (Tillman Bussey)
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Subject: Qlogic
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 20:20:09 -0700
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Has there been any development for the Qlogic VL SCSI controller? If so, which
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version, and where can I find it.
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Please send email.
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Thanks!
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--
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_/_/_/_/ Tillman Bussey \_\_\_\_ _/_/_/ Voice: (415) 491-5232 _/_/_/_/
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================================ \_\_\_ Fax : (415) 491-6192 \_\_\_\_
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***[ LINK ME TO THE KNOWLEDGE! ]*** tab@crl.com or bussey@vax.sonoma.edu ***
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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------------------------------
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From: bof@wg.saar.de (Patrick Schaaf)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: SMail security hole?
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Date: 13 Oct 1994 11:22:53 -0000
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slouken@cs.ucdavis.edu (Sam Oscar Lantinga) writes:
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> Where is everyone getting the source?
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There are no special Linux sources, it's just a question of configuring it.
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>And... could someone post the patches?
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The patch fixing the -D bug was posted to comp.mail.smail by the author,
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some time last week. The fix for the 'create files anywhere' was posted
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here; either HAVE=SETEUID in the config file, or check_path in the
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appendfile transport.
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Patrick
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------------------------------
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From: mskuhn@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Markus Kuhn)
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Subject: Re: Linux Access to PCI configuration space
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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 20:05:48 GMT
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Reply-To: mskuhn@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
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becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov (Donald Becker) writes:
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>Drew Eckhardt <drew@frisbee.cs.Colorado.EDU> has added BIOS32 and PCI
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>configuration support to the most recent development kernels (1.1.51). It
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>currently is tied to his NCR53c810 driver, but I'm certain that will be
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>cleaned up after a few other drivers start using it.
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Are there any plans to make PCI configuration space available for user level
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code? This could e.g. be
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- some /dev/pciconf
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- something in /proc/pci
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- a new system call
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Usercode (e.g. an X server) doing low level I/O on hardware (e.g. PCI
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video adapters) might find this very useful.
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Markus
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---
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Markus Kuhn, Computer Science student -- University of Erlangen,
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Internet Mail: <mskuhn@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> - Germany
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WWW Home: <http://wwwcip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/user/mskuhn>
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------------------------------
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From: jans@gold.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Hauke Jans)
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Subject: Re: Could TCP/IP be implemented over SCSI?
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Date: 12 Oct 1994 20:35:18 GMT
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Martin Blaschke (martin@mawurgl.franken.de) wrote:
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: In article <ianm.780773861@miles>, Ian McCloghrie writes:
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: > Ummm... it's certainly be possible. But make sense? Last I checked,
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: > fast/wide scsi 2 cards weren't exactly cheap. Granted, it's faster
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: It is not a question of what you need or what a scsi-controller would could!
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: Nobody is talking of GENERAL! Just for cheap and effective fun-networking...
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: :-))))))
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It could be a cheaper way for i.e. connect an Amiga (for which
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ethernet cards are expensive) with tcpip to your favorite Linux box ...
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Just my 0.2$ ....
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Hauke Jans
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jans@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de
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From: mentor@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Martin Chee-Keen LAI)
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Subject: Writing to OS/2 HPFS...how soon?
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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 13:31:39 GMT
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Does anyone know when support for writing to an OS/2 HPFS will be
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available? I understand that it's possible to read at the moment, but
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write is not yet available. Perhaps I should first ask if anyone's working on
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it! :)
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Any information appreciated.
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Martin
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===========================================================================
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=== Martin Lai ----> mentor@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au ============================
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=== B.Eng(Software), Faculty of Engineering ===============================
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=== University of Melbourne, Victoria, AUSTRALIA ==========================
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------------------------------
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From: Hamish.Macdonald@bnr.ca (Hamish Macdonald)
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Subject: Re: FTP slowdown under 1.1.52 with hdparm on
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Date: 14 Oct 1994 20:29:22 GMT
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>>>>> On 12 Oct 1994 22:30:50 EST,
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>>>>> In message <37i9la$17c@bmerhc5e.bnr.ca>,
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>>>>> mlord@bnr.ca (Mark Lord) wrote:
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Mark> By default, the linux hard disk driver performs much of it's I/O with
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Mark> all other interrupts masked.
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What is the reason behind this?? Crappy clone hardware?
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------------------------------
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From: timkay@netcom.com (Timothy L. Kay)
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Subject: fixed a bug in minicom
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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 19:58:48 GMT
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I've fixed a small bug in Minicom. What do I do with it? How do
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I contact the author Michael Smooremburg (sp?)?
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The bug was that the name of the script for a dial directory entry
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did not get displayed, but garbage did.
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Tim
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From: sattler@unix-ag.uni-kl.de (Matthias Sattler)
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Subject: ll_rw_block usage
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 12:54:53 GMT
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Hiho
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Can someone give me some information about the correct usage of ll_rw_block
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and it related functions.
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Yes... I've looked in the khg, but I found nothing. And I don't have the
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time to dig through he kernel sources.
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Matthias
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--
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******************************************************************************
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******************************************************************************
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I am pleased to see that we have differences. May we together become
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greater than the sum of both of us.
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-- Surak of Vulcan, TOS: "The Savage Curtain", stardate 5906.4
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******************************************************************************
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******************************************************************************
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Matthias Sattler
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email: sattler@unix-ag.uni-kl.de
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Phone: GERMANY 06333/65079 (always)
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" 06333/63175 (at reasonable times only)
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And always remember:
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When all else fails, read the instructions.
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------------------------------
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From: cflatter@nrao.edu (Chris Flatters)
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Subject: Re: New Motif lib's for use with XFree 3.1
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 21:27:50 GMT
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Reply-To: cflatter@nrao.edu
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In article rff@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu, jr7877@eehpx12 (Jason V Robertson) writes:
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>Yeah. I have motif 1.2.2 and having to mess around with keeping the old
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>*.so*3* files around is kind of a pain. Not to mention trying to compile
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>something that uses the motif library, which wants the old *.sa* files.
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>
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>Oh well, I guess such is the price of progress. Hopefully they'll recompile
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>the motif stuff real soon (and move up to 1.2.3 in the process).
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MetroLink are on 1.2.4 already.
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---
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==============================================================================
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Chris Flatters cflatter@nrao.edu
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==============================================================================
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Well, our problem stems from the fact that we, basically, allow every planet
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and moon-base this side of Alpha Centauri to make their own version of Spam.
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"Mystery Meat"
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Man... or Astroman?
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------------------------------
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From: gdl297s@cnas.smsu.edu (Ledford George D)
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Subject: Re: Unable to find XF86-3.1-lib.tar.gz with correct sum.
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Date: 11 Oct 1994 04:06:00 GMT
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Pierre Belanger (belanger@info.polymtl.ca) wrote:
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: Kevin Ruland (kevin@rodin.wustl.edu) wrote:
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: : I've searched the world over to find the X11R6 libs and can't find one
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: : with the correct checksum. gunzip even pukes on it. It seems okay
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: : up to ./lib/libX11.so.6
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: : I've tried the following sites:
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: : xfree86.cdrom.com
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: Either you don't ftp with "bin" option 'enable' or you must do something
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: wrong. I HAD NO PROBLEM AT ALL.
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: : Were's the good one.
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: They must be all god...
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: Pierre B,
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Actually, there was an update of the XF86-3.1-lib.tar.gz file put up on
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most of the sites; tsx-11, xfree86, and whatnot. This new version was
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dated OCT 6. I finally found a lib archive on ftp.cdrom.com in
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/pub/linux/tsx-11/packages/X11/XF86-3.1/binaries/Linux that was dated
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OCT 7. As I recall, it was roughly 200k larger, and it worked. Look
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around, the latest XF86-3.1-lib.tar.gz file is 734741 bytes in size.
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--
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*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
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* Doug Ledford | gdl297s@cnas.smsu.edu *
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* 948 E. Normal | College of Natural and *
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* Springfield, MO 65804 | Applied Sciences *
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* (417)866-2324 | Computer Sciences Major *
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*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
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"I'm willing to sacrifice anything for this cause, even other people's
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lives"
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------------------------------
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From: bbigb.henr801b@xerox.com (Bruce Bigby)
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Subject: Re: Shared library - HOW?
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Reply-To: BruceBigby@Aol.com
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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 15:25:28 GMT
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In article jut@louie.udel.edu, kallal@stimpy.eecis.udel.edu (John S. Kallal) writes:
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>In article <jwshin.781607962@nitride.EECS.Berkeley.EDU> jwshin@nitride.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Jinwoo Shin) writes:
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>>Can someone tell me the details of Linux shared library stuffs? Like how to
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>>create a shared library with gcc? If there is a faq for this, I couldn't find
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>>one.
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>
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>You need to get the file
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> ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/packages/GCC/src/tools-2.16.tar.gz
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>
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>Then make and print out the file 'README.ps' for instructions on how to make
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>a DLL shared library. I think that you need to talk to Eric Youngdale about
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>address assignments for your shared library. The procedure look a bit complex
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>for a brand new library.
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> However if you can wait a few months, REAL SOON NOW a elf shared
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>library toolset is due out. The elf format shared library fixed some of the
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>problems with the current DLL shared library system.
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>
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>John Kallal (kallal@udel.edu)
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>
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>
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I am new to Linux and am waiting for my CD to arrive, but I will ask this
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question anyway. Why is building shared libraries such an involved process?
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In SunOS 4.1.3, building a shared library is trivial, assuming the library
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that you wish to make shared does not export any global data. You merely
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invoke:
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ld -o libname $(OBJECTS) -assert pure-text -assert definitions
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where $(OBJECTS) represents the object modules and libname is the library
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name. It is usually in the form <name.so.V.v>, i.e. libc.so.1.8. There might
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also be a corresponding <name.sa.V.v>, i.e. libc.sa.1.8. I believe this "sa"
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library ensures that each process that binds to the shared libary gets its
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own copy of global data regions. I'm not sure. However, if your library
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is pure text with no global data, it's easy. You don't have to worry about
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address assignments.
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In SunOS 4.1.3, when you link to a shared library, to link to it in the
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same manner as when you link to static/archived libraries. When possible,
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building and linking to a shared library should be this easy!
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Bruce
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From: bens@sol.crhc.uiuc.edu (Ben Sander)
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Subject: Convert Linux binaries <-> UnixWhere ELF format ?
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Date: 10 Oct 1994 16:56:20 -0500
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Suppose I wanted to take a binary compiled with gcc on Linux and
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convert that to a binary usable on a machine running Novell's
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UnixWare. Both are use 386 code, so it seems feasible that all
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that is necessary is to relocate the code and change some header info.
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I think I need something like "objcopy", but which works and has
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better documentation.
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thanks for any suggestions,
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Ben Sander
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