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Subject: Linux-Activists Digest #217
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From: Digestifier <Linux-Activists-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
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To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Reply-To: Linux-Activists@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 93 07:13:04 EDT
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Linux-Activists Digest #217, Volume #6 Fri, 10 Sep 93 07:13:04 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Will Linux run MSDOS applications (which use DMA/interrupts)? (Paul Gortmaker)
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Re: SLS1.03: no root login via ttyS0 (/etc/securetty *is* ok) (Mark Cosham)
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Re: ***Q: How to add path? (Mark Cosham)
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New User Problem (Richard Nicol)
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Question about Novell (Dennis Gray Jr.)
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How to make "magic"(VLSI CAD TOOL) for Linux ? (T.H.doctor)
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Re: Compiling a man page (Ian Parkin (rgrant))
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Re: Will Linux run MSDOS applications (which use DMA/interrupts)? (Malcolm Beattie)
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Re: PLEASE HELP with networking problem.. (Malcolm Beattie)
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Help with first install (Paul Trouton)
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Re: rlogin problem (Jan Wielemaker)
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Problems with installation (travis jensen)
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Re: BSD UNIX (Julian Elischer)
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Re: Can you port Linux to my Refrigerator? (Graham Hubert Freeman)
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From: rcopg@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Paul Gortmaker)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Re: Will Linux run MSDOS applications (which use DMA/interrupts)?
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Date: 10 Sep 1993 02:23:29 GMT
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becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker) writes:
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>[[ I should only need a hot mitt rather than the full Nomex suit to
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>handle the pedantic replies and "but it works with {OS/2,NT,MSWindoze}". ]]
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...no, the full Nomex suit will be required. Need I remind you that you
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said the following?!?
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>It's too much to expect to be able to run an arbitrary MS-DOS device
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>driver under Linux, or any real OS.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Perhaps a fire proof blanket will suffice... ;-)
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Paul.
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--
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Paul Gortmaker c/o Microelectronics and Materials Technology Centre.
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Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, GPO Box 2476V, Melbourne 3001,
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Victoria, Australia. Ph (61) 3 660 2601. FAX (61) 3 662 1921.
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e-mail: paul@cain.mmtc.rmit.oz.au rcopg@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
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>Donald Becker becker@super.org
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>IDA Supercomputing Research Center
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>17100 Science Drive, Bowie MD 20715 301-805-7482
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From: inu574f@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Cosham)
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Subject: Re: SLS1.03: no root login via ttyS0 (/etc/securetty *is* ok)
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 02:46:16 GMT
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Igor Khasilev <gate@fido.odessa.ua> writes:
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>To : Mathias Bartsch
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>Hi!
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> > yes, I put ttyS0 into /etc/securetty,
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> > yes, I can login as a "normal" user.
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> > In the case of root:
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> > login prints "ILLEGAL ROOT LOGIN ON TTY `ttyS0'" at the console.
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> > Is it possible that login uses a different file with similar contents
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> > as /etc/securetty ?
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>Look at /etc/login.defs - there is a string wich looks like
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>CONSOLE tty1:tty2:tty3....ttyp1:ttyp2
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>You must add ttyS0 (or any other line wich you wish use as root) to this string.
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Or you can remove (comment out) this line altogether if you don't mind
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root being able to log in from anywhere. eg. not on a network.
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Mark Cosham
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> Igor
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>---
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> * Origin: Tesseract Corner (2:467/2)
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>#Via Tesseract Corner GATE (2:467/2.100@FidoNet)
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--
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Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.
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===========> <=======> <=======> <=======> <=======> <=======> <===========
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Mark Cosham Monash University, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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cosham@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au inu574f@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au
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From: inu574f@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Cosham)
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Subject: Re: ***Q: How to add path?
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 02:47:59 GMT
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slksp@cc.usu.edu writes:
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>Hi,
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>I want to add a path to my system, but I cannot find the right file
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>to do this. My question is: is there a file just like autoexec.bat
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>in dos that alow us to setup paths?
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>Thanks a lot!
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>Chet
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Have a look at /etc/profile if you're still using bash as your shell.
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Mark Cosham
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--
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Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.
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===========> <=======> <=======> <=======> <=======> <=======> <===========
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Mark Cosham Monash University, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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cosham@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au inu574f@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au
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From: richard@g1nzz.demon.co.uk (Richard Nicol)
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Subject: New User Problem
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Reply-To: richard@g1nzz.demon.co.uk
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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 18:01:18 +0000
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Hi, I hope somebody can help with a problem I have loading Linux.
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I have been given a series of Linus disks but I can't even get the boot
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disk to run. When I boot the computer from the disk, it checks for comms
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and printer ports. It then checks the SCSI Bus and reports the
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following:-
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Future Domain: BIOS at ca0000; Port Base at 140 using IRQ 5
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Future Domain: SCSI Bus Reset
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Future Domain: IRQ 5 Requested from kernel
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scsi0; Future Domain TMC-16x0
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Future Domain TMC-16x0 scsi driver version 3.5
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scsi: 1 hosts
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scsi (Future Domain): Abort Phase=2; target = 0 comnd = 0x00 pieces = 0 size = 256
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IMR = 0xdfd9
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IRR = 0x0000
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ISR = 0x0000
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scsi Status = 1
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TMC Status = 43
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Interrupt Mask = 29
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scsi (Future Domain): Abort Phase=2; target = 0 comnd = 0x00 pieces = 0 size = 256
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IMR = 0xdfd9
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IRR = 0x0000
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ISR = 0x0000
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scsi Status = 1
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TMC Status = 43
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Interrupt Mask = 29
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At thios point the system hangs with the HD light permanently on but
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there doesn't appear to be any disk or other activity.
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On the SCSI bus I have 2 hard disks, a Toshiba CD-ROM drive and an
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Archive Viper Taper Drive. Both access lights illuminate briefly when
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the disk first runs but go out and don't come back on again.
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The BIOS is by AMI and is dated 6/6/91.
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I have been given two different boot disks (by the same person) and they
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both stop at exactly the same place and the second disk was tested
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before given to me to try.
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Any clues or hints will be gratefully received.
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Please reply direct as I don't receive this newsgroup regularly.
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Richard
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--
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Internet: richard@g1nzz.demon.co.uk
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ampr.org: g1nzz@gb7max.#28.gbr.eu
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Compuserve: 100010,3046
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From: dgray@menudo.uh.edu (Dennis Gray Jr.)
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Subject: Question about Novell
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Date: 10 Sep 1993 05:55:52 GMT
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Reply-To: DGray@uh.edu
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Hello all!
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Suppose I have a 386 running linux with an ethernet card as I have
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now. Then suppose I have a 286 running DOS (bleh!). Now, for some
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reason, I want to access the files on the 286. So, can I get an
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ethernet card and, say, Novell Netware Lite and mount the PC disk(s)
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via the network?
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If so, is it hard and is it reliable? If not, how can I accomplish
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this while still running DOS on the 286?
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Thanks in advance,
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-dennis
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--
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Dennis Gray, Jr. DGray@uh.edu
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And on the First Day, Fear created God.
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From: d794348@cardinals (T.H.doctor)
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Subject: How to make "magic"(VLSI CAD TOOL) for Linux ?
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 07:19:22 GMT
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Magic is a famous VLSI cad tool on workstations.
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It works find on our Sun Sparc 2.
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Has anybody ever compiled it for Linux ?
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Any suggestion is deeply appreciated.
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Jeng-Her Lin(d794348@ee.nctu.edu.tw)
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From: iparkin@iris.bt.co.uk (Ian Parkin (rgrant))
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Subject: Re: Compiling a man page
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Reply-To: iparkin@iris.bt.co.uk
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Date: 10 Sep 93 09:44:14 GMT
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> Try specifying -Tascii -man as command line options;
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> #!/bin/sh
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> groff -Tascii -man $* | less
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You can also compress ( gzip also ) man pages to save a bit of HD
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IAP
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
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From: mbeattie@black.ox.ac.uk (Malcolm Beattie)
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Subject: Re: Will Linux run MSDOS applications (which use DMA/interrupts)?
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 08:40:37 GMT
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In article <26oof2$7up@aggedor.rmit.OZ.AU> rcopg@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Paul Gortmaker) writes:
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>becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker) writes:
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>
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>>[[ I should only need a hot mitt rather than the full Nomex suit to
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>>handle the pedantic replies and "but it works with {OS/2,NT,MSWindoze}". ]]
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>
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>...no, the full Nomex suit will be required. Need I remind you that you
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>said the following?!?
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>
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>>It's too much to expect to be able to run an arbitrary MS-DOS device
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>>driver under Linux, or any real OS.
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> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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I read this as "or *any* real OS" rather than "or any *real* OS".
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See the difference? The former implies "or any (other) real OS";
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the latter is a suicide note.
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>Perhaps a fire proof blanket will suffice... ;-)
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Don't lend him yours, you may need it :-)
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--Malcolm
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Malcolm Beattie <mbeattie@black.ox.ac.uk> | I'm not a kernel hacker
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Oxford University Computing Services | I'm a kernel hacker's mate
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13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN (U.K.) | And I'm only hacking kernels
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Tel: +44 865 273232 Fax: +44 865 273275 | 'Cos the kernel hacker's late
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From: mbeattie@black.ox.ac.uk (Malcolm Beattie)
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Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP with networking problem..
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 08:53:43 GMT
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In article <26gnooINNu9@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> anils@research.cs.orst.edu writes:
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>I had posted the following post yesterday and Malcolm Beattie
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><mbeattie@black.ox.ac.uk> suggested that I add my local network to the
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>/etc/networks file, which I did, but as soon as I do that
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>-- networks file ---
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>local-net 128.193.76.0
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>------ end ----
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> route add local-net
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> starts givnig me the SCIOADDRT: Network unreachable error, and as soon as I
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> take it out, I am able to add my local net to teh rouing table, but the
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> flags are UH, which means it comes up as a host rather than a network.
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> Any ideas.. My previous post an relevant info is appended below. Would
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> really appreciate any help.
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I've just re-read Linus' post about setting up net-2 and
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noticed the following
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In article <24nuqo$6tp@klaava.Helsinki.FI> torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds) writes:
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>Also, your IP address implies a B-class network (255.255.0.0), but you
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>seem to be subnetted to C-class (255.255.255.0). Sadly, this is one of
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>the things that the 4.4.1 libc gets wrong, and the "getnetbyname()"
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>function will mess up your network address (it will truncate it to
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>131.155.0.0 instead of the 131.155.110.0 found in your /etc/networks).
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>The only solution is probably to get the 4.4.2 library (which hasn't
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>been released yet, ugh) or to recompile 'route' to fix this some other
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>way to overcome the library bug (adding a 'net' keyword or even
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>hardcoding it orwhatever to specify a network address instead of using
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>/etc/networks and the buggy C library).
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This may well be your problem (on top of the one I previously
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answered: lack of route to network.) Sorry I took so long to
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notice this.
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--Malcolm
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Malcolm Beattie <mbeattie@black.ox.ac.uk> | I'm not a kernel hacker
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Oxford University Computing Services | I'm a kernel hacker's mate
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13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN (U.K.) | And I'm only hacking kernels
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Tel: +44 865 273232 Fax: +44 865 273275 | 'Cos the kernel hacker's late
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From: ptrouton@bfsec.bt.co.uk (Paul Trouton)
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Subject: Help with first install
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Reply-To: ptrouton@bfsec.bt.co.uk
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 08:55:32 GMT
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Please help.
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I installed SLS 1.03 version linux on my machine last night, but I have a few problems. My machine is as follows.
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486/33 AMI
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8MB Ram
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340MB Western Digital IDE drive currently on ISA bus
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ET4000 Local bus display card
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Sound Blaster Pro
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I partitioned the drive
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C: 20 MB dos Boot
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extended partition
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hda3 Linux 120MB active *
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hda4 Linux 16MB swap
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D: 180MB dos
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I then installed LILO sucessfully and made C: inactive.
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My system boots correctly and loads in to root ok.
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On bootup I get the following messages, ('icrus' is my hosts name)
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.Could someone please describe the format of these messages SIOC<text>
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/etc/rc.net: icrus(2112)SIOCSIFADDR: Invalid Arguement
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SIOCGIFFLAGS: Invalid Arguement
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SIOCGIFFLAGS: Invalid Arguement
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SIOCGIFFLAGS: Invalid Arguement
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SIOCGIFFLAGS: Invalid Arguement
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SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid Arguement
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SIOCADDRT: Network is unreadable
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, portmap, inetd, named.Sep 9 23:52:58 named [40]:restarted
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.Sep 9 23:52:58 [40]: named.hosts: no SOA record.
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.Sep 9 23:52:58 [40]: named.local: no SOA record.
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.Sep 9 23:52:58 [40]: /etc/named.boot: line11: bad flaf 'icrus.2112'
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.Sep 9 23:52:58 init[1]: Entering runlevel: 6
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.Sep 9 23:52:58 icrus sysloged: /var/log/notice: no such file or directory
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I am presently only a standalone computer, and I know that these messages are in
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response to the kernal not being able to setup the host, but what should I do to correct this, I dont want to do any damage. I also think that to get rid of the last error message I should create the /var/log/notice directory and file, however what
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is this used for and again is it ok to do this. I am unsure.
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Also ....
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So far I have installed as far as C3, at which point the SLS installation requested the blank formatted disk to be inserted for bootup. I did this and after I have fiddled around a while with the system, I wanted to continue to install the rest of the complete sls install, namely disks Dx, Tx, Sx and Xx.
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I used the command
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sysinstall -series D (for installing the D series of disks.
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The prog then requested that I place D1 in floppy disk and press return
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I did so but the program did not attempt to read from fd0, it just requested the same message again. After three <return>'s the sysinstall prog fell back into linux.
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NOW... I can mount the fd0 floppy disk, and read from it, so I mounted the floppy disk with D1 in it and tried the sysinstall again, but it still did not work.
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I also used the sysinstall -mount command to no effect
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WHY and again can you help.
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Lastly...
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How do I setup myself as a new user, because I do not wish to keep using root. I looked at the command useradd but the man pages were pretty unhelpful and there is no info on the FAQ's or the install guide for linux.
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From: jan@swi.psy.uva.nl (Jan Wielemaker)
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Subject: Re: rlogin problem
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 09:44:00 GMT
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fauerbac@clyde.cs.unca.edu (John Fauerbach) writes:
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>Has anyone else have problems with rlogin. It works for me about half
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>the time and the rest of the time it gives me a "User defined signal 1"
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>it then runs my .cshrc and .login and exits the remote workstation. My
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>other problem is when I press control-c on the remote workstation, it
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>closes my connection. This does not happen when I telnet in. I have
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>had this problem since pl9 and I am currently on pl12. Any ideas out
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>there?
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>Thanks,
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>John Fauerbach
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Got the same problem a while ago. I don't have my linux box around,
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so I can't be very precise. The trouble is (again) with the signal
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handling incompatibilities between BSD and POSIX. The signal handler
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that gets called to handle window resizing does not reinstall itself,
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nor uses siginstall(). To patch: get the rlogin source from the NET-2
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distribution, search for signal(SIGUSR1, SomeFunction) and patch
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SomeFunction() to read something like:
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SomeFunction(sig)
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int sig;
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{ <do your job>
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signal(sig, SomeFunction);
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}
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I don't know for the ^C problem (not noticed this).
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Regards --- Jan
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From: jensen@peruvian.cs.utah.edu (travis jensen)
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Subject: Problems with installation
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 93 09:58:23 GMT
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Sorry to bother, but I am out of ideas as to what I am doing wrong.
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First, the machine:
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486dx33 w/4MB RAM
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234 MB HDD
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VLB Video 7 Graphics card
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Second, the Linux: I am using the latest release of SLS on tsx-11.mit.edu.
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Lastly, the problem:
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To start at the beginning, I have a 120MB DOS partition. I then set
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up a 110k block partition for my file system and a 7k block partition
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for swap space. I create a file system using "mke2fs -c /dev/hda2"
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and a swap partition using "mkswap /dev/hda3" and "swapon" So far,
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no errors.
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Then I run doinstall. When I insert disk a2 and start uncompressing
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the first file (I skip over the faq), I run out of disk space. I
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don't even get the first file to uncompress from "bin.tgz" before
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I run out of disk space.
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I tried this again (all of it, first deleting the partions using
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fdisk and then rebuilding them) but to no avail. I then tried
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creating a DOS logical drive, formatted it (to make sure there was
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nothing left from the Linux), deleted it, and tried to reinstall
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Linux.
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Does this sound at all familiar to anyone? If so, what am I doing
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wrong?
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Thanks in advance for your help,
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Travis
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*who is beginning to wonder if Linus wrote Linux as a *big* practical
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joke against me*
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--
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Travis A. Jensen
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jensen@peruvian.cs.utah.edu (preferred)
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jensen@cadehp0.eng.utah.edu (next best)
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"My elelator! Not your elelator, my elelator!!"--Baby Plucky Duck
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From: juliane@belfast.dcd.wa.gov.au (Julian Elischer)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.386bsd.misc
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Subject: Re: BSD UNIX
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Date: 10 Sep 1993 15:56:12 +0800
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In article <1993Sep8.004749.2438@sophia.smith.edu> jfieber@sophia.smith.edu (J Fieber) writes:
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>Well heck, my pokey old un-accelerated Amiga 2000 got better disk
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>i/o performance than this spiffy new 486 I'm using now. I'm
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>using the same drives with an (expensive!) Adaptec 1542C. Pretty
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>darn depressing I must say. The price of EISA controllers
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>amounts to highway robbery too.
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It's not all the fault of the architecture.
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When I first wrote these drivers I wrote them for MACH2.5.
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this is a closely related OS and I was running it on the same hardware
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(in fact, the same MACHINE)
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performance under 386bsd was always considerably less than performance
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under mach 2.5, on the same PC.
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This is basically an artifact of the newness of the vm and io systems
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within 386bsd and derivatives. Work is underway
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to rebuild these systems, under both NetBSD and FreeBSD
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(no, it's not a duplication, both groups share info)
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I expect that within the next 6 months there will be great improvements
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in filesystem throughput.
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Don't blame bill, or the people who did the vm port..
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it's just new code. it needs a good shakedown and it is getting it.
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things will improve. The big thing to remember is that
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until 0.1, the emphasis was on just getting it running.
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Now that it seems to run with some reliablility, we can go back
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an look at what is going on inside.
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julian
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From: s2119784@cse.unsw.edu.au (Graham Hubert Freeman)
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Subject: Re: Can you port Linux to my Refrigerator?
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Reply-To: s2119784@cse.unsw.edu.au (Graham Hubert Freeman)
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 09:20:01 GMT
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In article <QUINLAN.93Sep8132001@rose.cs.bucknell.edu> quinlan@spectrum.cs.bucknell.edu writes:
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>You know, I think that Linux should be ported to my refrigerator. I
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>mean, it already has many built in features similar to Unix and I
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>think that these facts should make a port simple.
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>
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> o Hierarchical structure, i.e. old stuff goes in back, I even have
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> to defragment it whenever something starts to smell
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>
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> o Electrical wiring (maybe in the future even this won't be needed!)
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>
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> o Multi-user interface (I can use the freezer and someone else can
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> access the rest without any device conflicts)
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>
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> o I heard a rumour that a beta version already exists for toasters
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> so surely someone must be working on a refrigerator version.
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>
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> o It even has built-in power management (I heard the bulb
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> turns off whenever I shut the door) that is only just staring to
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> be used in typical personal computers.
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>
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>And most important, almost everyone has a refrigerator lying around
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>that I believe needs to be running Linux to bring them up to par with
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>... well, my 386. Doesn't this make you mad! - why should Unix be
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>restricted to people with computers?
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>
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>If anyone knows where I can find someone else wanting to port Linux to
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>refrigerators, please mail me so we can start work right away!
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sounds good. If we're going to see Windows on your Microwave, why not
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Linux on your Fridge? :-)
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>Back to reality.
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>
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>This "port Linux to everything thing phenomenon" is rather silly. Why
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>on Earth would you want to port it to anything nobody uses anymore? I
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>don't want to know how slow any Unix would run on my Commodore 128
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>(yes I still have a working one). I know that we aren't all made of
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>gold, but 386's are dirt cheap these days.
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>
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>Ian, if you are reading this, please add a "No, Linux is not being
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>ported to your refrigerator" to the daily-posting, if it isn't already
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>there.
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>
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>Dan
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>
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Agreed.
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Graham the Happy Scum aka Graham H Freeman +-------~;
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2119784@cs.unsw.oz.au * You're free enough to do nothing |Uni of /
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,-Grudnuk demand Sustenance! Funk is its own reward! HOYA!- |NSW->*'
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`==Linux is Doovy==Hunners are Groovy!==Qbex Onvg==Albury-->`~`*./
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