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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Sun, 4 Sep 94 10:13:11 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #707
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Linux-Misc Digest #707, Volume #2 Sun, 4 Sep 94 10:13:11 EDT
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Contents:
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tkppp 1.2 released ("Eric Jeschke")
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Re: Linus: Leaving for Australia (Phil Hughes)
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Re: LJ#4? (Phil Hughes)
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g3topbm problem ? (Wolf Paul)
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Re: PGP Signature (Was: Suggest:SCSI Tape File System) (Jeffrey Oxenreider)
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Re: Green Motherboards (Chris)
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Re: Anyone running on 386sx? How much mem do you have? (David Holland)
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Re: Linux BBS Software (Inge Cubitt)
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Re: Whats the best _CHEAP_ ISA video card for Linux/Xfree? (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
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terminal servers (michael)
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Re: Mosaic !!! (Greg Cisko)
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What is the best Motif lib? (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer))
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Re: LILO + DOS boot record = disaster (Harry C Pulley)
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Re: LILO + DOS boot record = disaster (Mikko Hypponen)
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Re: Multi User Minimums (Alan Cox)
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Re: Application to format/read/write Macintosh Disks (Alan Cox)
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Re: Kernel bug? (Alan Cox)
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Re: If Linux passes X/Open's Spec 1170, will it become a true Unix? (Alan Cox)
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Re: (FLAME) Curse on HOWTO's (Alan Cox)
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Re: Does Linux honor the setuid bit on shell scripts? (Alan Cox)
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Re: SOCK_PACKET: Why not reading outgoing packets ? (Alan Cox)
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From: "Eric Jeschke" <jeschke@cs.indiana.edu>
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Subject: tkppp 1.2 released
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Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 18:01:47 -0500
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Hi. I have upgraded tkppp to 1.2; the file on sunsite.unc.edu is
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/pub/Linux/Incoming/tkppp-1.2.tgz
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and should be moved elsewhere (/pub/Linux/X11/xapps/comm ??) soon.
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Thanks to jmmadiso@iupui.edu for some excellent improvements
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including a cool color icon!
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Please send any bugfixes and enhancements to jeschke@cs.indiana.edu
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Eric Jeschke | Indiana University
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jeschke@cs.indiana.edu | Computer Science Department
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Here is the ChangeLog and README:
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================================================================
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$Log: ChangeLog,v $
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Revision 1.2 1994/09/03 21:40:17 jeschke
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9/2/94 jmmadiso@iupui.edu
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--added feature to display local ip address (for those who have dynamic
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servers.)
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--add optional TIX support so it could look more motifish. (big whoop.)
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--integrated shell scripts into program.
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--added homebrewed xpm file for icon.
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--let you just type 'o' to bring up connection or 'f' to end it, in addition
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to the already used key bindings...
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9/3/94 jeschke@cs.indiana.edu
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--merged jmmadiso's changes (above) with minor mods
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--window updates are now timely
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--added busy cursor while link is going up or down
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Revision 1.1 1994/09/03 21:36:59 jeschke
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Initial revision
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-[README]-----------------------------------------------------------
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What is tkppp?
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==============
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tkppp is a short wish (tcl/tk) script I wrote to control a PPP
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connection on my Linux box. It presents a small window with
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buttons for starting and quitting PPP, a small status message area
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and a quick-glance icon for determining the status of the PPP
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link.
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What is required?
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=================
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- the PPP package, including working ppp-on and ppp-off scripts.
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- tcl/tk
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[ I'm not sure what versions of tcl and tk I used to make this,
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but there is nothing fancy here, so just try it out. ]
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Installation
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============
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- unzip and untar the package.
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- edit tkppp and change the paths at the top of the file
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to suit your system.
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- try it out. You may need to run tkppp as root IFF your
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own ppp-on and ppp-off scripts require that.
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- If you like it, you may want to move the files someplace
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more permanent. I suggest /usr/include/X11/bitmaps for
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the bitmaps and /usr/local/bin or some such for the tkppp script.
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Be sure to edit tkppp if you move the bitmaps around.
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What it does
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============
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tkppp calls the ppp-on and ppp-off scripts that should be provided
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with your PPP distribution. You will need to get these working or
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write your own scripts to initiate and take down the PPP connection.
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Once tkppp is running, it wakes up every so often to check whether
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the pppd daemon is still running and updates the status display
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accordingly.
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Distribution
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============
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I place this package in the public domain.
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*** I am maintaining tkppp, so please pass along your comments,
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bug fixes, patches, enhancements, etc. to jeschke@cs.indiana.edu
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so that I can merge them into future releases of tkppp. ***
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Enjoy!
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Eric Jeschke
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jeschke@cs.indiana.edu
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--
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Eric Jeschke | Indiana University
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jeschke@cs.indiana.edu | Computer Science Department
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From: fyl@eskimo.com (Phil Hughes)
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Subject: Re: Linus: Leaving for Australia
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Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 21:55:11 GMT
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Mark A. Horton KA4YBR (mah@ka4ybr.com) wrote:
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: Linus Torvalds (torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi) wrote:
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: [ chop ]
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: : I'll be back (*),
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: : Linus
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: : (*) October 4, actually.
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: Been watching a few too many Arnold Schwarznegger movies,
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: have we, Linus??
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: :) (have fun!)
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Guess we mailed those T-shirts to him too late for his trip. (Belinda
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noticed that he didn't have a shirt on in his picture in the September
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Wired so she sent him a "My Other Computer is a LINUX System" shirt and a
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"Virtual Brewery" shirt.)
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: - m
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: --
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: ------------------------------------------------------------
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: Mark A. Horton ka4ybr mah@ka4ybr.atl.ga.us
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: P.O. Box 747 Decatur GA US 30031-0747 mah@ka4ybr.com
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: +1.404.371.0291 33 45 31 N / 084 16 59 W
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--
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Phil Hughes, Publisher, Linux Journal (206) 527-3385
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usually phil@fylz.com, sometimes fyl@eskimo.com
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From: fyl@eskimo.com (Phil Hughes)
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Subject: Re: LJ#4?
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Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 22:04:26 GMT
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yuan tzeng (yuan@cfic2.com.tw) wrote:
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: Liam Greenwood (liam@durie.wanganui.gen.nz) wrote:
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: : Joseph W. Vigneau (joev@garden.WPI.EDU) wrote:
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: : > Has the Linux Journal #4 been distributed yet? I just received LJ#3
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: : > yesterday...
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: : I received the Linux Journal #5 today.
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: : Liam
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: I got my copy too here in Taiwan. Taking a quick look, I find
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: page 6, "RISC BASED MULTIPORT CARD" is interesting to me.
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We have been moving the production date back a couple of days each month.
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By the end of the year everyone should receive their issue before the
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start of the month matching the cover date plus it will be on the
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newsstands before the cover month.
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For example, the October issue is currently at the printer (issue #6) and
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will be back on the 9th of September. That means it should be in the mail
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by the 14th.
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For our US subscribers, we hope to have the subscription base up high
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enough so that we can start sending via Second Class early next year.
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That should decrease the delivery time.
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For you people in Canada, tell your friends about us. Because of the low
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number of subscribers in Canada we have to pay very high postage rates.
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If you wonder where the subscribers are, hang in there. There are some
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charts in issue #6 that show what our subscription base looks like.
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[If you have any questions or comments about Linux Journal, call or
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send e-mail to linux@ssc.com. Also let us know if it is ok to publish
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your letter.]
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--
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Phil Hughes, Publisher, Linux Journal (206) 527-3385
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usually phil@ssc.com, sometimes fyl@eskimo.com
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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From: wnp@aaf.alcatel.at (Wolf Paul)
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Subject: g3topbm problem ?
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Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 05:26:16 GMT
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I have just installed Rob Hooft's 1mar1994 binary NETPBM package, and
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trying to print a received fax with efax's "fax print" command
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resulted in the following error message:
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"g3topbm: error allocating memory for a row"
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and no usable output.
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Has anyone encountered this before, is there a fix, or has anyone a
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suggestion, before I spend a lot of time tracking this down?
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Does anyone know of another way of converting g3 format files to
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something printable on a DeskJet/LaserJet or PostScript printer?
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Thanks!
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--
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V Wolf N. Paul, UNIX Support/KSF wnp@aaf.alcatel.at
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+-----------------+ Alcatel Austria AG, Site "F" +43-1-291-21-122 (w)
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| A L C A T E L | Ruthnergasse 1-7 +43-1-292-1452 (fax)
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+-----------------+ A-1210 Vienna-Austria/Europe +43-1-220-6481 (h)
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From: zureal@infinet.com (Jeffrey Oxenreider)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
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Subject: Re: PGP Signature (Was: Suggest:SCSI Tape File System)
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Date: 2 Sep 1994 11:55:30 GMT
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Darin Johnson (djohnson@arnold.ucsd.edu) wrote:
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: That also begs the question of whether or not your message was
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: important enough to even care if you really wrote it or not.
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That's a matter of personal opinion. Take for example the recient fiasco
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with Steve Winters and the post about 'War on Satans BBS's', which was a
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long tirade about how pagan bbs's need to be terrorized and shut down.
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It was signed Steve Winters (and Steve is a well known 'hardcore'
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christian) and it was quite the rant and very believeable that Steve
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could have written it. It was also a PGP signed message. This ADDED to
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the believability of it. However it was later discovered that Steve
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never had a PGP key, and never wrote the message. If (before this
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incident) Steve had made a public key, some people could have checked the
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validity of this *highly* volitile message. Mr. Winters now is (or is in
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the process of) making a public PGP key so this kind of thing can't
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happen again with his name.
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--
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*----===========================================================------*
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* zureal@infinet.com | 74431.3011@compuserve.com *
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* sysop@f560.n226.z1.fidonet.org | jeffoxen@freenet.columbus.oh.us *
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* BBS # (614) 235-5942 *
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* Fnord All hail Eris! Fnord *
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* finger zureal@infinet.com or FREQ PGPKEY from 1:226/560 for PGP key *
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*---=============================================================-----*
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From: e8ne@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Chris)
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Subject: Re: Green Motherboards
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Date: 4 Sep 1994 06:13:38 GMT
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In article <34a24h$9s5@coli-gate.coli.uni-sb.de>,
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Daniel Rock <rock@effonix.cs.uni-sb.de> wrote:
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>I doubt these options will work under Linux.
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Ok - I DO have a green motherboard (model: Vi12G) ... Under kernel
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1.1.49, my harddrive WILL power down, but my monitor/CPU will only
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occasionally power down (I have no idea why... just that they do) :) ...
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There is nothing special about my HD, or IDE controller, but my monitor
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IS a green monitor.
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>The power management facilities are controlled by the BIOS, which is disabled
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>under Linux (except some PCI-BIOS Routines).
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Hmm - I wonder how this explains the above :)
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>I don't know it exact, but here is how I would do that:
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[snip]
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>I have a green board on my own and are using under DOS some power saving
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>facilities, but I hadn't seen them work under Linux.
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Like I said above, my HD is powers down 100% of the time; my CPU/Monitor,
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about 1 in 20 times thus far (I have only had the motherboard 2 weeks
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now, so I am still plaing with it) :)
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>Daniel Rock
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Chris Ling
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Subject: Re: Anyone running on 386sx? How much mem do you have?
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From: dholland@husc7.harvard.edu (David Holland)
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Date: 1 Sep 94 16:48:55
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rbeiter@books.com's message of 24 Aug 1994 18:45:37 GMT said:
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> Well, I've been running linux on my 386sx 33 for quite awhile, and it works
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> reasonably well for me. I have 8 meg real memory, and 10 meg swap space
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> and have never run into memory problems. However... Different things I've
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> found with it is recomnpiling the kernel takes 3-4+ hours to do, compared to
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> 15 min on a 486dx2 <what i'm upgrading to VERY soon> And I think even
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> considering running X on a 386sx would be a nightmare...
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Do all of you (meaning the posters in this thread) have really slow
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machines or something?
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386sx-20, 4M RAM, 6M swap. Kernels take a bit over 2 hours, pushing
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2.5 for the latest ones. The .99.14 kernel took more like 1.5. X
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putters, but it's fast enough for non-demanding stuff like xbombs.
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(I also have a really slow video card.)
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--
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- David A. Holland | -- "Do you have a moment?" -- "Yes.
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dholland@husc.harvard.edu | Unfortunately, it's a moment of inertia."
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From: inge@drealm.drealm.org (Inge Cubitt)
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Subject: Re: Linux BBS Software
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Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 16:15:25 +0000
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peter hill (phill@xesets.demon.co.uk) wrote:
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: In article <33sfuc$57k@drealm.drealm.org> inge@drealm.drealm.org writes:
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: > OK - drealm bbs is ready for beta testing, but we are in desparate need of
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: > people who are already fairly linux-literate, and preferably in the UK so as
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: > to keep transmission and contact costs down.
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: >
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: I am looking for network _and_ modem access, with particular emphasis
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: on security. If there is _any_ suspicion that a user could get onto
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: the corporate network through the BBS then it won't even get a lookin.
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: My company suffered a number of network breakins (via Internet) over
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: the last year or so, and those who run network security are somewhat
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: paranoid about who can do what on the network. They are even more
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: paranoid about systems on the network which have modems attached.
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I believe that installed according to the documentation, drealm is secure.
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However, the menus are configurable, and it would be possible for the sysop of
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the BBS to use a menu function called 'system' or one called 'shell' to
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perform external commands or even allow a user to shell out.
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Since the BBS runs *as* the user running it (all drealm users have bona fide
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unix accounts), any system command will be executed with the user's
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permissions, plus the extra group (effective gid) bestowed while the bbs is
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running - again a special bbs group, used for nothing else on the system.
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There are a handful of setuid executables, which will be needed if you wish
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dial-in users to create their own accounts, in the style of a Dos bbs, and for
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a sysop to destroy an account. On a linux machhine you also need a setuid
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copy of chgrp and chown, as the BBS is supposed to ensure the right ownership
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on files created during its execution. The documentation advises how to
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create a special BBS directory structure to ensure that these can only be
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reached within the context of BBS execution.
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We have asked various experienced unix users to try and hack the system from a
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shell and so far they have been unable to do so.
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I would advise however, that the SysOp is a person who is trusted on the
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system as a whole, as a combination of configurable menus and setuid
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executables would leave an opening for an untrustworthy bbs operator to cause
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some disruption.
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Inge
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
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From: mah@ka4ybr.com (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
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Subject: Re: Whats the best _CHEAP_ ISA video card for Linux/Xfree?
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Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 07:16:00 GMT
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Dirk Eddelbuettel (eddelbud@qed.uucp) wrote:
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: Very well that the ATI Mach32/Ultra/Ultra Pro are advocated for, but could
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: someone give me hints for the best performance/price ratios ?
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: My system is a 486DX-33, 16MB, ISA bus, 1024x768 interlaced 14'' SVGA
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: monitor so I am looking for an accelerated card that gives me 800x600 and
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: 1024x768 (but not more, no 2 MB cards needed) and that will be faster than
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: the 512 kB Oak Oti67 it will replace (this one sucks: TOTAL 3012.000000
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: xStones reported by xbench).
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It's not an accelerated card, but the little beastie is FAST! - the Trident
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8900CL with 1MB... you can get them for about $60.00 and I've seen them
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run rings around some so-called accelerated cards! I dunno how they do it,
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but they do!
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- Mark
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"Linux! Guerrilla UNIX Development Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus."
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Mark A. Horton ka4ybr mah@ka4ybr.atl.ga.us
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P.O. Box 747 Decatur GA US 30031-0747 mah@ka4ybr.com
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+1.404.371.0291 33 45 31 N / 084 16 59 W
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From: michael@APlatform.aplatform.com (michael)
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Subject: terminal servers
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Date: 3 Sep 1994 20:09:11 -0700
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I would be interested in hearing any positive or negative experiences
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with Livingston terminal servers.
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From: cisko@d0tokensun.fnal.gov (Greg Cisko)
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Subject: Re: Mosaic !!!
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Date: 4 Sep 1994 03:11:51 GMT
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Reply-To: cisko@d0tokensun.fnal.gov
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In article a6c@bigboote.WPI.EDU, alman@myhost.subdomain.domain (Benjamin Alman) writes:
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> I am trying to get Mosaic on my linux box here, but it requires Motif -
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> and i only have an emulator for it, not the libraries!! Does anyone know
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> of a COMPILED binary version of the latest version (2.4 or so) with all
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> the other required files ???
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I am using the compiled binaries that I got from sunsite. (I think that
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is where I got them) Mosaic runs fine with SLackware 2.0.
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>
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> i got version 1.2 off of tsx-11.mit.edu, but it says it can't find the
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> 'Connect' program...
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>
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> I really would like the latest version, though !!!!
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>
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> Please email any replies, thank you!!
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>
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> --
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> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> From: Ben Alman, Internet: alman@wpi.edu, My PC: alman@strangiato.res.wpi.edu
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> Linux 1.1.47 + XFree386-2.1.1, Slackware 2.0 on an i486 DX/2-66 with 20mb RAM
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> It's just the age, It's just a stage, We disengage, We turn the page... -Rush
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From: bass@cais.cais.com (Tim Bass (Network Systems Engineer))
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Subject: What is the best Motif lib?
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Date: 4 Sep 1994 03:08:26 GMT
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Last week I noticed that the Slackware Pro has Mosaic for term
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but not the old version of Mosaic with the static linked Xm stuff.
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Guess it's time to buy Motif for both dynamic linking and development.
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Any ideas on the best Motif to purchase? Sink or Swim ?? :-)
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From: hpulley@uoguelph.ca (Harry C Pulley)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.msdos.programmer
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Subject: Re: LILO + DOS boot record = disaster
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Date: 4 Sep 1994 13:32:40 GMT
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ez006212@rocky.ucdavis.edu wrote:
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: LILO overwrote my DOS boot record (not the Master Boot record). Of course
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: that only means one thing: my entire DOS partition is toast. $#@*&^!!!
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: (I have no idea how LILO could have written itself to the DOS
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: boot record--it's not supposed to do that.)
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Did you use /dev/hda or /dev/hda? for the boot= line. It should be the whole
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disk, not a partition. It sounds like you told it to write to a partition
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instead.
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: The DOS partition is 434M and resides on Maxtor 546 drive.
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: At first I got an Invalid Media Type error when trying to access C:, but
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: I corrected that problem by copying the boot record from my 130 drive
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: onto the 546's corrupted DOS boot record.
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: But now when I do dir c: I get nothing but garbage. I need to know
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: the details of the standard DOS boot record (or whatever is responsible for
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: telling DOS where the FAT and root directory are) so I can correct this.
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: I searched my entire HD to see if LILO kindly saved a copy of my
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: original DOS boot record, but it didn't (pretty lame). [I searched
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: on some keyboards such as MSDOS5.0 and FAT16, which are standard "tags" in
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: the DOS boot record but the search was fruitless.]
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lilo is supposed to save the bootsector but mine doesn't do it either. I have
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one bootsave file from Jul 10 and I have run lilo several times since then.
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: I basically need some (major) help reconstructing the DOS boot record.
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: You can reply privately or publicly, but if you choose the latter you
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: may want to edit the newsgroup distribution line appropriately so as to
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: not anger the natives. ;)
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I would suggest that you use Norton DiskDoctor or some such file fixer program.
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I don't use them myself but friends of mine can do wonders with those sort of
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programs.
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Harry
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--
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<:-{} hpulley@uoguelph.ca |This message released|It takes all kinds,
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\ Harry C. Pulley, IV |to the PUBLIC DOMAIN.|and to each his own.
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==================================+=====================|This thought in mind,
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Stay away from the DOS side, Luke!|Un*x don't play that.|I walk alone.
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From: hermanni@wavu.elma.fi (Mikko Hypponen)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.msdos.programmer
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Subject: Re: LILO + DOS boot record = disaster
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Date: 4 Sep 1994 13:36:22 GMT
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ez006212@rocky.ucdavis.edu wrote:
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> I basically need some (major) help reconstructing the DOS boot record.
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Try overwriting your boot sector with zeroes (use some disk editor)
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and booting up from a DOS diskette with SYS.COM on it and doing a SYS C:.
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Make sure the diskette has exactly the same version of DOS as the
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partition had you are trying to recover.
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--
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Mikko Hypponen // mikko.hypponen@datafellows.fi // Finland
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Data Fellows Ltd's F-PROT Professional Support: f-prot@datafellows.fi
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Check out our WWW site at http://www.datafellows.fi/
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Multi User Minimums
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 10:04:00 GMT
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In article <33qu5r$51v@godfather.cyberquest.com> peter@cyberquest.com (Peter Schoenmaker) writes:
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>I am interested in the minimum requirements for a linux box with four or five
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>users running just basic programs. Please tell me about your multi user system
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>your hardware and your software you are running.
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We had 5-8 users on a 4Mb 386DX40 quite happily all using tin (reading news
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via nntp), elm , a small bbs written here, telnet/rlogin and some small mud
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clients. In other words basically a user to internet front end. It worked
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but was a lot happier with 8Mb. With the light disk usage (barring swapping)
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it got the IDE drives were also adequate.
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For a general purpose 5 user system I'd probably now be looking for a VLB
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486SX and 8Mb of RAM for light usage. For heavy usage - lots of compiles,
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mosaic, X stuff going on you'll want a lot more ram and possibly a real
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disk controller.
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Alan
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Application to format/read/write Macintosh Disks
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 10:05:45 GMT
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In article <vttoth.69.001B9093@vttoth.com> vttoth@vttoth.com (Viktor T. Toth) writes:
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>I don't know of any Linux applications but there are some DOS
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>freeware/shareware ones that may or may not work under DOSEMU.
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Xhfs will do 1.44Mb mac disks. It's on sunsite. I've not found many formats
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I can't read under Linux - even obscure stuff like OS/9 seems to be
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supported somehow (and even BBC micro disks if you have an old style floppy
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controller!).
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Alan
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Kernel bug?
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 10:08:03 GMT
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In article <STEINARM.94Aug31135643@menja.ifi.uio.no> steinarm@menja.ifi.uio.no (Steinar Midtskogen) writes:
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>Nazgul ~> mkfifo foo
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>Nazgul ~> ls > foo # Or 'ls >> foo'
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>bash: foo: Stale NFS file handle
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Ok I'd expect -ENXIO but so far so bad...
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>Nazgul ~> ls
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>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address e102a8ac
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Oops .. yes thats a kernel bug. Can you email me a full report and look
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up 0010e610 and 00120b93 in your zSystem.map
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Alan
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: If Linux passes X/Open's Spec 1170, will it become a true Unix?
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 10:09:38 GMT
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In article <33r4kv$c0s@agate.berkeley.edu> maxims@ucsee.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Maxim Spivak) writes:
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>In UniForum's UniNews July 20,1994 issue there's and article on X/Open's
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>UNIX branding. This got me thinking--if Linux would pass this branding,
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>would it become a full-fledged _official_ Unix, on par with SunOS or
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>HP/UX or whatever?
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Correct as I understand it unless there is some requirement for the code
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to be derived from the AT&T code...
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>So the question is--how close is Linux to conformance to Spec 1170? Would
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>it be a Good Thing(tm) for Linux to become a "true" Unix? Would it cost
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>major money to be branded, and if yes, is it worth raising that kind of
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>money somehow?
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It would cost a lot and include royalties according to the X/open blurb I
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saw.
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Alan
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: (FLAME) Curse on HOWTO's
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 10:11:39 GMT
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In article <33r9ba$m7@hamilton.maths.tcd.ie> tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) writes:
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>gregh@cc.gatech.edu (Greg Hankins) writes:
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>>I'm going to stand by my decision about using getty_ps as the recommended
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>>getty in the Serial-HOWTO. I have listed mgetty as an alternative getty,
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>>and I have noted it's FAX handling capabilities.
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>(1) I am only concerned with an appopriate getty for dialling in and out.
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There is a simple solution to all of this. Write an Mgetty-HOWTO or a
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DIALOUT-HOWTO or something. I'd actually agree with both of you. getty_ps is
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the best getty unless you want dialout when mgetty is much better.
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Alan
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: Does Linux honor the setuid bit on shell scripts?
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 10:15:32 GMT
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In article <9408282358.46@rmkhome.com> rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly) writes:
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>In my approximately 14 years of dealing with UNIX I have seen various
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>instances where a shell script was setuid to some non-root user for
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>purposes of software installation, netnews, etc.
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And I suspect every single one was insecure. If it used a sys5.2 or sys5.3
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bourne shell it was insecure (end of story). sys5.4 bourne shell I never
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tested out in full. If the system has symbolic links its probably insecure
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anyway.
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>It seems to me that this makes Linux less of an "open" system than other
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>UNIX systems. Traditionally, UNIX has never had barriers that kept people
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>from being stupid.
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Valid point. I guess if someone feels like fixing the kernel so that it
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doesn't have the implicit script re-open race and is thus safe at that level
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it would be quite nice.
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Alan
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help
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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
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Subject: Re: SOCK_PACKET: Why not reading outgoing packets ?
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 10:34:27 GMT
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In article <5VquJUE2-DB@gurke.allcon.com> morten@gurke.allcon.com (Morten Jammer) writes:
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>Why can the socket typ SOCK_PACKET only read outgoing packets
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>when the interface is in promiscious mode ?
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It can definitelyt read all incoming packets on all the cards I use
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(barring etherexpress) otherwise tcpdump wouldnt work. Outgoing packet
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viewing is very recent but now works.
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Alan
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// Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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