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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 94 20:13:13 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #748
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Linux-Misc Digest #748, Volume #2 Mon, 12 Sep 94 20:13:13 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Linux doom with TERM support... (continuing) (Christophe Person)
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Need beta testers: sasteroids with sound (Brad Pitzel)
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486/dx2-66 vs P60 vs P66 vs P90 ? (Kevin Esler)
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Is SCSI CD-ROM worth the money ? (Kevin Esler)
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Problems with newest version of Linux Doom file at sunsite (Steve DuChene)
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Re: Linux DOOM for X released (H. Peter Anvin)
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*** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07) (Ian Jackson)
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Re: Thanks ID and ddt - Linux DOOM is perfect. (Andre Schroeter)
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Re: Horrific bug in DOOM! (Bill West)
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Re: POSIX threads for Linux :Wanted (Mike Castle)
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What about a votr on comp.os.linux.doom (Matthew Grant)
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Re: Anyone running on 386sx? How much mem do you have? (Steven Pritchard)
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Re: Linux DOOM for X released (Jim Sun)
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Re: Biz.comp.linux* (Spire Technologies)
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Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? (Miguel de Icaza)
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Re: DOOM and Linux (Miguel de Icaza)
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Re: How to use 14400bps with modem? (Viktor T. Toth)
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Re: Thanks ID and ddt - Linux DOOM is perfect. (Derek Fawcus)
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Re: Sunsite is down! Cause: Linuxdoom? (Steve DuChene)
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Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ?? (Mr. Paul David Walker)
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From: chrisp@dirac.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Christophe Person)
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Subject: Re: Linux doom with TERM support... (continuing)
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 00:10:53 -0500
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> Since TERM 2.0, UDP is implemented.
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> someone asked what is IHHD... Well, it is a very nive small program which
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allows you to play doom on the Internet. You call your host by modem, run
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tcpdial (or udpdial) and play with friends all over the world.
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Unfortunately, I have nobody to test it neither (yet?).
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I succeeded in compiling it on a SGI and have no need for it under
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linux. If you want it, I have installed it on my anon ftp hebb.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
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in ~/doom/IHHD. It is a shar file.
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Let me know if you have any success. (like I said I wasn't able to find
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a doomer out there).
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Christophe Person
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chrisp@dirac.bcm.tmc.edu
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http://dirac.bcm.tmc.edu/people/chrisp.html
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From: pitzel@cs.sfu.ca (Brad Pitzel)
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Subject: Need beta testers: sasteroids with sound
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 06:15:50 GMT
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Hello,
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I need a few testers for a beta version of the game sasteroids,
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with digital sound. Yeah, I know this is embarassing considering
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linux doom came out this week too :-)
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If you've got voxware 2.9 or greater (included in linux kernels 1.1.32 and
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up) and a sound card capable of 8-bit mono digital playback, try ftp'ing to
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imagineer.disc-net.com (198.162.12.57). You'll probably have to use the IP
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address. (name service is flakey to this site right now)
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/pub/pitzel/sasteroids1.5-beta1-src.tar.gz (sources)
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/pub/pitzel/sasteroids1.5-beta1-bin.tar.gz (precompiled binary)
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You only need one of the above files. Note that your high scores aren't
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saved -- this is due to a change in the setuid() behaviour in recent
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kernels. I'll release an official new sasteroids once these probs get worked
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out. You need g++ 2.5.8 and svgalib 1.11 to compile it.
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thanks,
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--brad
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pitzel@cs.sfu.ca
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From: esler@ch.hp.com (Kevin Esler)
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Subject: 486/dx2-66 vs P60 vs P66 vs P90 ?
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 19:39:10 GMT
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Reply-To: Kevin Esler <esler@ch.hp.com>
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Does anybody have any benchmark figures on the relative raw CPU
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performance of:
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486/dx2-66
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Pentium 60
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Pentium 66
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Pentium 90
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I am planning to purchase a system and it seems like the price
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difference between the 486/dx2-66 and the P66 is about $300, and about
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another $300 difference to get to the P90. I'm trying to allocate my
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$ resources in the best way possible.
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I realize that system performance depends on more than just CPU
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performance, by the way.
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--
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Kevin Esler //hewlett-packard/cso/stg/std/mll (MA Language Lab)
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esler@ch.hp.com (508) 436-5979
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From: esler@ch.hp.com (Kevin Esler)
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Subject: Is SCSI CD-ROM worth the money ?
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 19:41:37 GMT
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Reply-To: Kevin Esler <esler@ch.hp.com>
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I am soon to purchase a system to run Linux. It will have a SCSI hard
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disk. It will also have a double speed CD-ROM drive. Should I shell
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out the extra $50-$100 to get a SCSI CD-ROM, as distinct from a
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non-SCSI ?
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--
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Kevin Esler //hewlett-packard/cso/stg/std/mll (MA Language Lab)
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esler@ch.hp.com (508) 436-5979
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From: s0017210@cc.ysu.edu (Steve DuChene)
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Subject: Problems with newest version of Linux Doom file at sunsite
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 07:27:11 GMT
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I was finally able to get through to sunsite (see my previous post)
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and download the linxdoom.tgz file but there are problems with it now.
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When I first downloaded it I tried to see what the file sizes were
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in the tgz file by using the following command
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"zcat linxdoom.tgz|tar tvf -" and I got a weird error like
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the following: tar: directory checksum error (804781340 != 63782)
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so I renamed the file to linxdoom.tar.gz and tried:
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"gunzip linxdoom.tar.gz" but again I got an error message.
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gunzip: linxdoom.tar.gz: invalid compressed data--crc error
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and before anyone asks, yes I downloaded the file in binary mode
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from within ftp! Just to check I tried twice. Same result both times.
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So anyone who successfully got the fixed pixel-doubling version from
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sunsite.unc.edu, could you make it available on an ftp site somewhere
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else? Or perhaps the original person who downloaded this from ID
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software could re-upload it.
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--
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| Steven A. DuChene sduchene@cis.ysu.edu or s0017210@cc.ysu.edu
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| Youngstown State University | Computer Science / Math / Mech. Eng.
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| Friends don't let friends do DOS
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From: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
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Subject: Re: Linux DOOM for X released
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Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 07:32:11 GMT
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Followup to: <350849INN7ol@CS.UTK.EDU>
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By author: peek@duncan.cs.utk.edu (Michael Peek)
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In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc
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> David Taylor (ddt@idcube.idsoftware.com) wrote:
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> : DOOM v1.666 for Linux using X is available at:
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> I wonder: If this is a specific Linux port, and no other ports are in the
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> works, it seems to me that the program would pick up a lot of speed if it
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> used the SVGALIB routines. It sure would be easier to see!
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It isn't. There is an SGI port as well.
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/hpa
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--
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INTERNET: hpa@nwu.edu --- Allah'u'abha ---
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IBM MAIL: I0050052 at IBMMAIL HAM RADIO: N9ITP or SM4TKN
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FIDONET: 1:115/511 or 1:115/512 STORMNET: 181:294/1 or 181:294/101
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Help! I'm stuck on this planet!
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From: ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Jackson)
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Subject: *** PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE POSTING *** (misc-2.07)
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 04:03:16 -0600
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Please do not post questions to comp.os.linux.misc - read on for details of
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which groups you should read and post to.
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Please do not crosspost anything between different groups of the comp.os.linux
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hierarchy. See Matt Welsh's introduction to the hierarchy, posted weekly.
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If you have a question about Linux you should get and read the Linux Frequently
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Asked Questions with Answers list from sunsite.unc.edu, in /pub/Linux/docs, or
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from another Linux FTP site. It is also posted periodically to c.o.l.announce.
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In particular, read the question `You still haven't answered my question!'
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The FAQ will refer you to the Linux HOWTOs (more detailed descriptions of
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particular topics) found in the HOWTO directory in the same place.
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Then you should consider posting to comp.os.linux.help - not
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comp.os.linux.misc.
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Note that X Windows related questions should go to comp.windows.x.i386unix, and
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that non-Linux-specific Unix questions should go to comp.unix.questions.
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Please read the FAQs for these groups before posting - look on rtfm.mit.edu in
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/pub/usenet/news.answers/Intel-Unix-X-faq and .../unix-faq.
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Only if you have a posting that is not more appropriate for one of the other
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Linux groups - ie it is not a question, not about the future development of
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Linux, not an announcement or bug report and not about system administration -
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should you post to comp.os.linux.misc.
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Comments on this posting are welcomed - please email me !
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--
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Ian Jackson <ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu> (urgent email: iwj10@phx.cam.ac.uk)
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2 Lexington Close, Cambridge, CB4 3LS, England; phone: +44 223 64238
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From: andre@borneo.dkfz-heidelberg.de (Andre Schroeter)
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Subject: Re: Thanks ID and ddt - Linux DOOM is perfect.
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 94 15:18:01 CET
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hi,
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i'm running it on a 486dx2 66, ati mach 8 (dump isa!!) with xfree2.1.1 and it's
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great in 320x200. i feel it's even faster than under dos.
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andre
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--
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================================================================================
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Andre Schroeter German Cancer Research Center
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tel.: (+49) 6221 - 42 2382 Dept. Medical and Biological Informatics
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fax.: (+49) 6221 - 42 2345 Im Neuenheimer Feld 280
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e-mail: A.Schroeter@DKFZ-Heidelberg.de D-69120 Heidelberg, Germany
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From: billw@starbase.neosoft.com (Bill West)
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Subject: Re: Horrific bug in DOOM!
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 10:39:53 GMT
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Steven Pritchard (spritcha@nyx10.cs.du.edu) wrote:
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: marks@schooner.sys.hou.compaq.com (Mark Stockton) writes:
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: >Seems that when exiting the Linux version, you are prompted to
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: >"...quit to DOS?". What a blood curdling thought! Isn't it time
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: >we put a rating system in place for these shareware games?
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It could have been worse, you could have actually exited to MSDOG!!!!
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--
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******************************************************************************
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Bill West
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Houston TX
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email: billw@starbase.neosoft.com
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******************************************************************************
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From: mcastle@umr.edu (Mike Castle)
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Subject: Re: POSIX threads for Linux :Wanted
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 15:21:40 GMT
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In article <3974@ucl-cs.uucp>, Umesh Soni <U.Soni@cs.ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
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>
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>Hi all,
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>
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>I am considering installing Linux on my PC at home and have had no prior
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>experience with it. A major factor in deciding to go ahead, would be the
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>availibility of an implementation of POSIX threads for Linux.
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I didn't think POSIX had solidified a thread standard yet.
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Therefore it would be impossible to have a POSIX compliant thread
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implementation.
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Aside from that, kernel threads don't exist on Linux yet.
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Several cooperative thread implentations exist, though, and I
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suspect would be fairly easy to port to Linux.
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mrc
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--
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Mike Castle .-=NEXUS=-. Life is like a clock: You can work constantly
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mcastle@cs.umr.edu and be right all the time, or not work at all
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mcastle@umr.edu and be right at least twice a day. -- mrc
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We are all of us living in the shadow of Manhattan. -- Watchmen
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From: grantma@ritz.equinox.gen.nz (Matthew Grant)
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Subject: What about a votr on comp.os.linux.doom
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 12:34:37 GMT
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The New NOISE has started. We are about to be invaded by " How do you do
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XXX with Doom?".
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Lets control the flood and get it out of the road before it starts!
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--
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_/ _/ __/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ Matthew A. Grant
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_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/_ _/ _/ 1 Domain Tce, Chch. NZ.
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_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ (03) 338-4287
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_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ grantma@ritz.equinox.gen.nz
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From: spritcha@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Steven Pritchard)
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Subject: Re: Anyone running on 386sx? How much mem do you have?
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 00:02:28 -0600
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jasons@satelnet.org (Jason Stevens) writes:
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>A friend of mine runs linux on a 80386sx-16Mhz with 5 Megs of ram... and
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>10meg swap.. it's faster as a multiuser platform than it is as a single
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>user but to compile a kernel.. WOW there goes 6+ hours... I use my 486
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>for that! <G>
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> I also use to run it on a 80386sx-16Mhz with 2.5 megs of ram..
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>not bad.... better than MessDoz/WindBlozE!
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Linux ran nicely on my 386SX/16 (4 meg, 8 meg swap), but I don't regret
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getting the 386DX/40 motherboard & math co. (just over $100).
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Hasta,
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Steve
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spritcha@nyx10.cs.du.edu | Steven
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sjpritch@siucvmb.siu.edu | Pritchard
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GCS/M/S d? p+ c++(++++) l++ u+(-) e+ m+(---) s/+ !n h--- f+ g+ w@ t++ r- y?
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From: jsun@athena.mit.edu (Jim Sun)
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Subject: Re: Linux DOOM for X released
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 23:47:41 GMT
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I'm writing this note to rescind two statements I made on this thread earlier
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in the day.
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> linuxxdoom is unplayably slow...
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It turns out that I was at fault. I don't have sound driver installed in my
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linux; the search for nonexistent sounddriver seems to be the cause of slow-down.
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After I commented out the sndserver line in .doomrc, linuxxdoom runs beautifully.
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> running xclient on a remote similar system is faster...
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While it was the case when I had the sndserver problem, but not anymore.
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local is much faster (at least for 486-66/75 class systems with 16+megs);
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after all, the advantage gained in bus (vs. TCP/IP packets) far outweighs
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the computational overhead.
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> It's an admirable effort...
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I still stand by this statement:), sans all the qualifications and "but"s.
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Thanks DDT!
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now maybe I have enough incentive to do a kernel upgrade to install the sound
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driver.
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Jim
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From: spire@teleport.com (Spire Technologies)
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Crossposted-To: biz.config
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Subject: Re: Biz.comp.linux*
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 14:57:06 -0700
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In <Cw0ynx.5Iq@info.swan.ac.uk> iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox) writes:
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>In article <34sqeo$hd6@kelly.teleport.com> spire@teleport.com (Steve Wicke) writes:
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>>The reasoning I have for wanting to start a biz.* heirachy for linux is
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>>that there are commercial vendors now addresses the need for
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>>professional Linux support. Professional support costs money...ie; is
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>>commercial and people on the net (including myself) have a tendacy to be
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>>a little snide towards commercial posts in non commercial areas. I would
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>Well I'd certain back the idea.
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>Alan
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Thanks....
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It is nice to seee that more pepople are realizing the need for
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it. I am hoping that with more support from people like you :) We can get
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this underway.
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Joshua Drake
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Spire Technologies
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>--
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> ..-----------,,----------------------------,,----------------------------,,
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> // Alan Cox // iialan@www.linux.org.uk // GW4PTS@GB7SWN.#45.GBR.EU //
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> ``----------'`----------------------------'`----------------------------''
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--
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Spire Technologies 1985 SW 6th Ave.
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Portland Or
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Phone (503)222-3086
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From: miguel@sphinx.nuclecu.unam.mx (Miguel de Icaza)
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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
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Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:43:26 GMT
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> >How can I run doom w/o a window manager though.. I haven't been able to yet.
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> Ditto that question.
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> WHen I have xinit simply start doom, the colormap of the doom window
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> never becomes active -- I get a black, and a white, and that's it.
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I would recomend using the twm, since fvwm grabs the Alt-arrow
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combinations, so you can't use the straffe feature.
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I haven't had time to check this personaly, but it seems that olwm
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grabs shift-arrows, so no fast movement with olwm.
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Hope this helps,
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miguel.
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From: miguel@sphinx.nuclecu.unam.mx (Miguel de Icaza)
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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
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Subject: Re: DOOM and Linux
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 17:46:20 GMT
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> Gee, even though the README says "no bug reports," does anyone think iD
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> can be convinced to fix this?
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Maybe if they receive lots of request for registering Doom/Linux, they
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will enhance the product.
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From: vttoth@vttoth.com (Viktor T. Toth)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
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Subject: Re: How to use 14400bps with modem?
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 00:28:43
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In article <3509eo$8l3@csnews.cs.Colorado.EDU> vilhuber@tigger.cs.colorado.edu (Jan Vilhuber) writes:
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>Remember that a 14400 modem will do
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>compression and the such, and I have HEARD (never seen) that on good
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>days, when the moon is right, and so on, you _might_ get a throughput rate
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>of 56kB.
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The reason why you don't see it often is because most services or BBS-s you
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call that have 14.4 modems drive it at 19.2 or 38.4; so there is no chance to
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have a throughput higher than that.
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I have seen throughput much higher than 56k when I connected two modems of my
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own (115K DTE-DCE rate) and transferred highly compressible stuff.
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Viktor
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From: df@eyrie.demon.co.uk (Derek Fawcus)
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Subject: Re: Thanks ID and ddt - Linux DOOM is perfect.
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 20:18:00 +0000
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In article <34sq6j$mc3@nyx10.cs.du.edu> anon123a@nyx.cs.du.edu (Yanming PENG) writes:
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>
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>the environment DOOMWADDIR does not work as said in README.linux. the
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>DOOM*.wad and sndserver HAVE TO BE in the current directory. I wrote
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>a script to create symbolic links before playing them and erase them
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>after playing.
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Edit .doomrc to have the full path to sndserver, only sndserver uses
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the DOOMWADDIR env var, doom expects to find the wad in the current
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directory (I use a symlink).
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(One fun thing to do is to run sndserver by itself, you can get some
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sound effects out of it, now i'll have to rig up a script to scream
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when I shutdown my machine :)
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DF
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Derek Fawcus (G7FVS) df@eyrie.demon.co.uk
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From: s0017210@cc.ysu.edu (Steve DuChene)
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Subject: Re: Sunsite is down! Cause: Linuxdoom?
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Date: 12 Sep 1994 06:48:48 GMT
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OK, I finally was able to get through to sunsite and get the
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linxdoom.tgz file (which was the same size as the first one I
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downloaded?) and it had a linuxxdoom executable in it that was
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a different size than the first one. The only problem is that this
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new one seg. faults on my system and the first one doesn't!?
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I am using it from the same directory and with the same doom1.wad
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file but still seg. faults.
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--
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| Steven A. DuChene sduchene@cis.ysu.edu or s0017210@cc.ysu.edu
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| Youngstown State University | Computer Science / Math / Mech. Eng.
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|-------------------------------------------------------------------
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| Friends don't let friends do DOS
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From: pdwalker@HK.Super.NET (Mr. Paul David Walker)
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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
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Subject: Re: DOOM, X, Linux, 320x200 video mode ??
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 01:17:16 +0800
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In article <rrwardCw0AE0.Kpq@netcom.com! rrward@netcom.com (Richard Ward) writes:
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>In article <davenagyCw05y3.4vs@netcom.com> davenagy@netcom.com (David Nagy) writes:
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|> Jeez, everybody should get a clue... All this doubletalk about
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|>electron drift when it's OBVIOUS that the problem is that his speakers
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|>are too far away from his head... The speed of sound, remember? And you
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|>guys are worried about the speed of electrons, sheesh. <g>
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|> I'm sure if he used headphones the problem would disappear. (As long as
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|>he didn't use one of those curly headphone cord extenders....)
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|>
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|> Dave Nagy
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|Let's not forget that large headed people will hear a definite lag due to the
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|extra length of their auditory system. You wouldn't believe how long it can
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|take sound to get through the ears of extremely large headed people! Even
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|normal headed people with large ears are having SFX lag time problems. Why,
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|Ross Perot gave up DOOM because it took a week for the sounds to find their
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|through his ears.
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|Richard
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And you must not also overlook the thick-skull factor. It is a fact that sound
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travels slower through thick skulls than through air (duhhh...huh?)
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But hell... who could accuse of anyone who had posted in this thread to be
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thick skulled?
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- Paul
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// Paul D. Walker Consulant //
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// pdwalker@HK.super.NET HK Computer Solutions //
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