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From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 94 20:13:11 EDT
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Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #765
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Linux-Misc Digest #765, Volume #2 Thu, 15 Sep 94 20:13:11 EDT
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Contents:
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Re: Yggdrasil Sum94 CD (Daniel Quinlan)
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Re: Yggsdrasil Linux uses Their OWN filesystem? (Daniel Quinlan)
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Re: Apple Select 360 w/ Linux?? (Keith Stone)
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Re: DOOM for Linux (Andrew R. Tefft)
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Re: Sony MiniDisc (Dave Thayer)
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Clocks of the Diamond SpeedStar 64 Alpine (PCI) (Bob Crosson)
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Re: Biz.comp.linux* (Pierre Uszynski)
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LILO - Getting Rid Of.... (David Cowan)
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Re: 486/dx2-66 vs P60 vs P66 vs P90 ? (Warwick Allison)
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Re: Word Processor for Linux? (Wolfgang Jung)
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Re: Problem with Linux Sound (Bill C. Riemers)
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Re: Linux v1.0 SMAIL problem (Neal Becker)
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Re: 486/dx2-66 vs P60 vs P66 vs P90 ? (David Fox)
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Looking for JEAN FRANCOIS GAGNON (Dimitris Kontoudis)
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Re: 320x200 X resolution? (Andreas Matthias)
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Video card for Linux? (Anthony K Kong)
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Wine on Linux? (Anthony K Kong)
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Re: Slackware Professional 2.0 Linux, distribution contacts. (Bill Braughton)
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From: quinlan@freya.yggdrasil.com (Daniel Quinlan)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
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Subject: Re: Yggdrasil Sum94 CD
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Date: 13 Sep 1994 23:41:11 GMT
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Reply-To: quinlan@yggdrasil.com
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Jeff Kesselman <jeffpk@netcom.com> writes:
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> Not to put too much of a damper on this, but the kernel of the Fall
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> 94 from yygdrasil has given some of us some problems. My system
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> runs summer 94 just fine (which I am still using, with the programs
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> from Fall release) but Fall94 blows up big-time when it tries to
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> initialize the VFS with a null-pointer refernce and a subsequent
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> register dump.
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I'm going to guess that you have either a Sony CDU-31A or a CDU-33A.
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> I called yygdrasil, and they said that they had just gotten another
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> call on thsi problem and were looking into it.
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Yes, we figured out the problem and the faulty driver and figured out
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how to correct it.. (I sent a patch off to Linus so it should be
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fixed for everyone soon enough.)
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> Anyway, just be warned about the kernel issue. I'm sure yygdrasil
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> will have it resolved fairly soon...
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We hope to have a revision B boot floppy out later today for the
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people using Sony CD-ROM drives. Thanks.
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Dan
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--
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Daniel Quinlan <quinlan@yggdrasil.com>
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From: quinlan@freya.yggdrasil.com (Daniel Quinlan)
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Subject: Re: Yggsdrasil Linux uses Their OWN filesystem?
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 00:35:23 GMT
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Reply-To: quinlan@yggdrasil.com
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Chang Hyeon Song <song@lisa.cs.purdue.edu> writes:
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> I just bought this Linux CD-ROM, but I found out that Yggsdrasil
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> uses non-standard file system of their own. Does it cause any
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> problem? Please let me know.
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Nothing of the sort.
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We use `ext2' for hard drive installation and `iso9960' (with Rock
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Ridge extensions) for our CD-ROM. Both are the closest thing to
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"standard filesystem" types for Linux.
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In fact, `mkisofs' (create an iso9960 filesystem) is copyrighted by
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Yggdrasil Computing and we placed it under the GPL for everyone's use.
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Beyond that, our Fall 1994 CD-ROM is conformant to the Linux FSSTND,
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but that is a whole different ball of wax.
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Dan
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Daniel Quinlan <quinlan@yggdrasil.com>
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From: kstone@server.crewstone.com (Keith Stone)
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Subject: Re: Apple Select 360 w/ Linux??
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 15:26:06 -0500
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In article <356qus$t7o@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>, goldt@math.tu-berlin.de
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(Sven Goldt) wrote:
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> : BTW, would a HP-Laserjet 4MP be the better choice??
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> Yes ! Much more compatible.
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Huh? The LaserWriter 360 has PCL, Postscript, and autosencing from all
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ports. What's more compatable than that? Any postscript or PCL driver
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should work with it unless you want to use the FAX option.
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--
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_________ Keith Stone | Phone: (910) 777-0511
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|\\\ ///| Crewstone Consulting ltd. | Fax: (910) 777-1191
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|/// \\\| 1001 S Marshall Suite 118 | "Opinions expressed were the
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========= Winston=Salem, NC 27101 | best available at the time."
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From: teffta@erie.ge.com (Andrew R. Tefft)
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Subject: Re: DOOM for Linux
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Reply-To: teffta@erie.ge.com
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 12:25:54 GMT
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Doom discussion is as valid here as any other Linux application.
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Not all of us get alt.games.doom. I, for one, have never had a chance
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to try doom before and am appreciating all the linux-related tips
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that I find here!
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---
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Andy Tefft - new, expanded .sig - teffta@erie.ge.com
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From: dthayer@netcom.com (Dave Thayer)
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Subject: Re: Sony MiniDisc
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 01:14:57 GMT
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In article <353l18$jq2@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
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Alberto Vignani <a.vignani@CRFV3.CRF.IT> wrote:
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>Does anybody have some info about the new Sony MiniDiscs (or whatever they
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>are called)? I heard they will be 340MB magneto-optical R/W 2.5" discs
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>costing less than 10$ apiece; the controller will be also very low-cost
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>(400$?), maybe with floppy interface, maybe IDE.
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>They are supposed to come in volume before the end of the year.
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>I'm curious to know if someone heard the same rumors, and/or knows if and
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>when this media will be supported by Linux.
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>Bye
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>Alberto
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The July Issue of Circuit Cellar Ink- The Computer Applications Journel
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has a short new product blurb on pg 11. No info on price or interface.
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It's a 140MB medium, uses a 'new universal file system', and can play
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audio MDs. I reckon that the fs could be the deciding factor on linux
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support, depending on how open Sony is with it. The model shown is
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MDM-111, and the US contact listed is Sony Electronics, 3300 Zanker Rd.
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San Jose, CA 95134 (800) 352-7669.
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Looks pretty cool to me!
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--
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dthayer@netcom.com
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dthayer@nyx.cs.du.edu
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From: crosson@cam.nist.gov (Bob Crosson)
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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix
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Subject: Clocks of the Diamond SpeedStar 64 Alpine (PCI)
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Date: 15 Sep 94 20:19:29 GMT
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I recently acquired a Zeos Pantera-90 that came with a Diamond
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SpeedStar 64 Alpine PCI bus adapter. I've installed Linux-1.1.42
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successfully, but I can't discover the clocks on the video board.
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I've run the version of SuperProbe that comes with XFree86-2.1.1
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but it doesn't recognize the chipset (CLGD5434) and doesn't report
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the clocks. All it reports is the "Signature data: a8 (please
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report)", and that the RAMDAC is either a Sierra SC1148{2,3,4}
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15-bit or a SC1148{5,6,7} 15/16-bin HiColor.
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I've also tried to run XF86_SVGA-2.1.1 with the -probeonly option,
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but it won't report the clocks without a valid ModeDB entry.
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But I can't produce a valid ModeDB entry without knowing the
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clocks. I tried creating a 28MHz ModeDB line but it makes the
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characters in text mode unintelligible.
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Can anybody tell me how to discover the clocks on this board?
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The XFree86-2.1.1 documentqtion says that this board should be
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supported by XF86_SVGA because it has the Cirrus chipset on it,
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and somewhere the CLGD543x chipset is listed as working.
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Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Bob Crosson
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crosson@cam.nist.gov
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From: pierre@shell.portal.com (Pierre Uszynski)
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Crossposted-To: biz.config
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Subject: Re: Biz.comp.linux*
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Date: 15 Sep 1994 19:59:56 GMT
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In <34sqeo$hd6@kelly.teleport.com> spire@teleport.com (Steve Wicke) writes:
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>In <34rfc9$13j@news1.shell> pierre@shell.portal.com (Pierre Uszynski) writes:
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>
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>>And so far, distribution, configuration and consulting businesses
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>>have been welcome to post there (within the usual limits of decency,
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>>and etiquette...), and get mentioned in the FAQs easily.
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>
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>The reasoning I have for wanting to start a biz.* heirachy [blah, blah...]
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Yes, you said that already. I understand what you are saying. I don't
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understand why you think you can't use the current comp.os.linux groups
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for that stuff.
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col.announce has been open for ads, price sheets and thinly disguised
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announcements of ports of commercial software to Linux. col.misc has
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been open to more ads and price sheets and announcements. col.help
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has been open to problems with commercial distributions and people
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looking for commercial providers. Some providers like Yggdrasil
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post replies regularly to col.help, although they may not be reading
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the groups on a regular basis and probably should. On the other hand they
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run a commercial help line, and clearly state in their manual on what
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basis help is available (I don't work for them, I use their distributions).
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So what is it you want to post that you can't find place for??????
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I understand the appeal of trying to create a group just for your
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own use :-) but that's counterproductive. Post your ads where people
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read other things, so they can see these too. The biz hierarchy is
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believed to have a limited distribution and having articles there won't
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keep them from expiring.
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>Also it would give a place for vendors to have
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>a forum to discuss problems with product and current sales.
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Why not use col.misc? Do you really think you would be flamed for that?
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You may have been flamed once or twice for posting commercial stuff
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to the col hierarchy, but I don't believe flamage here is anywhere close
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to what it is in other groups. That is because, again, so far, the
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commercial stuff has been well in line (IMHO) with expectations of
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the linux users.
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When that gets abused (hopefully never), it may be time to step up
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the flamage and kick this stuff out of the groups, but I don't think
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we are anywhere close to this point.
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Now, that should not prevent us from splitting the groups further :-)
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But this biz.linux hierarchy idea seems to head for a duplication
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of existing groups, and we certainly don't need that. I may change my
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mind if the subgroups are specifically disjoint from the col subgroups,
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and I can't think off the top of my head of a way to do that. I hardly
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thank that discussing current sales would get anywhere close to keeping
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a newsgroup busy.
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Pierre.
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pierer@shell.portal.com
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From: davidc@vissci.demon.co.uk (David Cowan)
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Subject: LILO - Getting Rid Of....
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Reply-To: davidc@vissci.demon.co.uk
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 09:38:33 +0000
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Help....
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My system consists of a 486/66 with two old seagate drives
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(120 and 170 Mb). I installed Linux on a partition on the secondary
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drive and wrote LILO to the MBR, so that I could select the boot
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partition.
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Linux was nice, but I needed the HD space for something else, so I
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used FDISK (dos) to remove the partition and rebuild the dos
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partition to use the whole drive again. I reformatted the drive
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and noticed that LILO was still there - on the primary drive - OK,
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fair enough - I wasnt too bothered.
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I just got DOS 6.22 so I decided to upgrade. I backed up my machine
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and deleted all the partition info from both drives using FDISK (dos).
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( This sounds a bit intense, but I was going to purge the drive
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anyway - I collect a lot of shite !)
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I installed DOS 6.22 and let it build the new partitions, and format
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the disks, and install itself - brill - except that LILO is still
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there - kind of - When I boot from HD, the screen fills up with
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LI (^M) and continually scrolls up - not responding.
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How do I get rid of the remains of LILO ? I can only boot from
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floppy now, and using the dos SYS command doesn't get rid of it.
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Help.....
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David Cowan Insert Clever SIG here !
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davidc@vissci.demon.co.UK Visual Sciences Ltd
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vissci@cix.compulink.co.UK Unit 12, Prospect III,
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Dundee Technology Park
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Dundee, Scotland
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DD2 1SW
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From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
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Subject: Re: 486/dx2-66 vs P60 vs P66 vs P90 ?
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Date: 15 Sep 1994 03:00:01 GMT
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Peter@tequila.oche.de (Peter Hahn) writes:
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> 486/dx2-66 32 SpecInt 16 SpecFP
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> 486dx4-100 52 " 24 "
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> Pentium 60 58 " 51 "
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> Pentium 66 64 " 57 "
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> Pentium 90 86 " 77 "
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So, if you're intending to do raytracing, the Pentiums look awefully nice.
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At almost 5 times the speed of a 486/dx2-66, the $600 should be easily
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justified.
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--
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Warwick
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_-_|\ warwick@cs.uq.oz.au /
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/ * <-- Computer Science Department, / WIT SPACE TO LET
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\_.-._/ University of Queensland, /
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v Brisbane, Australia. /
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From: woju@keep.in-berlin.de (Wolfgang Jung)
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Subject: Re: Word Processor for Linux?
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Date: 15 Sep 1994 14:42:59 +0200
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Adam Wasserman (awasser@mtkgc.com) wrote:
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: I'd like to obtain a word processor for linux, of the MS Word or IslandWrite
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: variety: WYSIWIG, menu-driven, et. al. Does any of you know of such a beast?
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: Please email me in addition to posting, particularly if you have one installed
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: (vendor email invited as well).
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Posting the naswers will reache more interesting people-
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Even though you can run WP for SCO via iBCS on linux
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BTW: for what does iBCS stand for ?
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--
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| Gruss |ISO-8859-1 Mail: woju@keep.in-berlin.de |
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| Wolfgang | woju@keep.bln.sub.org |
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| Jung | wong@cs.tu-berlin.de |
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From: bcr@k9.via.term.none (Bill C. Riemers)
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Crossposted-To: alt.games.doom
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Subject: Re: Problem with Linux Sound
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Date: 15 Sep 1994 14:53:27 GMT
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Reply-To: bcr@physics.purdue.edu
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>>>>> "is20176" == is20176 <is20176@otago.ac.nz> writes:
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is20176> In article <1994Sep15.122608.1@otago.ac.nz>,
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is20176> brentlab@otago.ac.nz writes:
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>> I really hope that you are kidding! :-) We all know that sound
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>> travels much slower than electrons in a wire don't we.. The
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>> obvious solution to the original problem is to maximise the
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>> distance the sound has to travel as electrons and minimise the
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>> amount it has to travel as sound waves, so you should actually
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>> make the cables _LONGER_
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>> Sheeesh, some people just can't see the obvious can they :-)
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>> ???
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>>
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>> Cheers, Neil _Physics_isn't_my_middle_name_ Gardner
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>>
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is20176> I really hope that you are kidding!!! look, if the
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is20176> electric feild is move at near C, then if the wire is on
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is20176> a downhill slope, then the e-field is accelerated past
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is20176> light speed, throwing you into a time-warp into the past,
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is20176> so you here the sound later (in the real present) I
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is20176> thought that this basic concept of time-space physics was
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is20176> obvious :-)
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Now I hope you are kidding!!! Anyone with half a brain knows the
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e-field goes into the past, not you. So you'll hear the sound too
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soon. If you are not carefull, you'll react to these sounds and avoid
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whatever caused them. The resulting temporal pardox will either cause
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your entire body mass to convert into pure energy, destroying the
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planet you are on, or give you a really nasty headacke.
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Bill
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Physicist for hire. No temporal instability too great, no curriosity
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to small. I'll confuse you into thinking you understand them all.
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From: neal@ctd.comsat.com (Neal Becker)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.prog,dc.org.linux-users
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Subject: Re: Linux v1.0 SMAIL problem
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Date: 15 Sep 1994 03:13:11 GMT
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Did you really want uucp_neighbors? How about removing the offending
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router?
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From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox)
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Subject: Re: 486/dx2-66 vs P60 vs P66 vs P90 ?
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 00:35:50 GMT
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In article <FOX.94Sep13195911@first.cs.nyu.edu> fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox) writes:
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] The P90 took the same time to compile
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] emacs (8.5 minutes elapsed) as the 66, with the 66 using a local
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] SCSI disk and the P90 using the same disk via NFS.
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Forgot to mention, the 66 has 32 meg, the P90 has 16.
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David Fox I want my HDTV! xoF divaD
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NYU Media Research Lab baL hcraeseR aideM UYN
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From: kontoudi@aphrodite.uoregon.edu (Dimitris Kontoudis)
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Subject: Looking for JEAN FRANCOIS GAGNON
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Date: 15 Sep 1994 12:37:15 GMT
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Hi,
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I'm looking for the e-mail address (or any contact address)
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of Jean Francois Gagnon, the author of UBBS. The e-mail
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address that I have is invalid (jf@ichlibx.login.qc.ca).
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Any info on the matter will be appreciated. Please reply
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to the address ``kontoudi@ics.forth.gr''.
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Regards,
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Dimitris.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
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From: andy@titan.central.de (Andreas Matthias)
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Subject: Re: 320x200 X resolution?
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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 02:25:43 GMT
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Stephen Collyer (stephen@dogmatix.inmos.co.uk) wrote:
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: |> : "320x200" 25 320 344 376 400 200 204 206 225
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: I don't see how these values work. With a 25 MHz clock, with total V. lines =
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: 400, and total H. lines 225, we're looking at a refresh rate of roughly
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: 25E6 / (400 x 1.1 x 225 x 1.05) = 240
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: This is way above the spec of any monitor I'm familiar with. Or am I missing
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: something obvious ?
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I posted a similar mode line a few days ago, and got similar comments.
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I don't know why such modes work, but obviously they _DO_ on some monitors.
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My AOC 17'' let me play for a whole night in that resolution, without
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complaining or showing discomfort. It still works perfectly, and the AOC
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is a very cheap monitor, nothing special.
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I suppose that the monitor hardware detects the undisplayable refresh
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rate and perhaps displays only every fourth frame or so.
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Ciao,
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Andreas
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From: konga@aruba.ccit.arizona.edu (Anthony K Kong)
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Subject: Video card for Linux?
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Date: 15 Sep 1994 22:06:04 GMT
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What kind of video card is good to use with Linux?
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I'm thinking of purchasing the ATI-Xpression VLB 2MB video card. Is this
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good? The Diamond Stealth 64 is also on my mind too. Which video card
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have the best support in terms of video driver wise!
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Please response via E-mail. Thanks in advance.
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Anthony Kong
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From: konga@aruba.ccit.arizona.edu (Anthony K Kong)
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Subject: Wine on Linux?
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Date: 15 Sep 1994 22:09:05 GMT
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Anyone used WINE on Linux? I heard that it is still in development. But
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anyone used it, and how good is it?
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From: wmb@myhost.subdomain.domain (Bill Braughton)
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Subject: Re: Slackware Professional 2.0 Linux, distribution contacts.
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Date: 14 Sep 1994 23:22:40 GMT
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ACC Corp. (info@acc-corp.com) wrote:
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***Earlier text deleted***
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> Slackware Professional is based on the very latest Slackware distribution
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> available off the Internet Linux archives. In addition it contains many
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> features that exist only in this software package that make this package the
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> simpliest Slackware Linux to install on your system, or to run directly from
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> your CD ROM drive. It comes with both the 220 page Linux Installation and
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> Getting Started Guide, and four pages of additional installation notes.
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> List Price is $49.95.
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Hmm, I think I paid $49.95 for the full set of the high density 3 1/2 disks
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from Linux Systems Lab. The Linux Installation and Getting Started Guide
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came with it too. And they even offered the CD to me for $29.95 and had
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EVERYTHING from the Slackware 2.0 distribution.
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> This distribution includes: The full set of GNU Compilers and utilities for
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> Linux including both C and C++, with sources. It comes with a complete
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> implementation of X Windows and includes both the X11R5 and X11R6, as well
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> as a selection of window managers including Openlook. Linux also features
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> the complete UNIX networking environment including TCP/IP, Slip, PPP, and
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> UUCP and ethernet support. Also included are a full set of tools and
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> applications for both serious research and casual recreational use from the
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> Linux archives such as: Dos emulator (enables dos programs to be run under
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> Linux), mail readers, databases, text layout tools, games, boot manager, and
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> hundreds more.
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Sounds impressive, but nothing listed is stuff that you can't get from any
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FTP site that mirrors Slackware and with so many vendors selling the complete
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mirrors of some these FTP sites, why buy this?
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Just some thoughts.
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Bill
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